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    Posted on YT a couple of days ago, this is apparently new footage of the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York. I don't recall seeing it before anyway.

    I'm sure this will be studied closely by researchers for any new evidence. It's interesting they believe bombs are responsible, and miss the second impact. It should be remembered that 'explosions' in both towers independent of the plane strikes were reported by many witnesses. And one is audible in the video, at approx. 7.16, the sound of something like an explosion.

    Warning: does contain disturbing scenes (people falling/jumping from the towers).

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    Default Re: 9/11 - WTC: New Eyewitness Video

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Warning: does contain disturbing scenes (people falling/jumping from the towers).

    That was so upsetting... be prepared. When the camcorder is turned away, the second building explodes in flame. No one mentions a plane.

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    For the past few years, whenever I have seen video of this taken from nearby buildings by just ordinary citizens, I never see evidence of planes. I think that is telling. Also, notice how black the smoke from the fires are, which indicates a cold fire, not hot enough to melt steel, or bring any buildings down.

    I have followed Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth over the past 19 years, but recently felt that they are controlled opposition, as they seem to lack creative approaches to getting public attention, and are constantly asking for money.

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    I have followed Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth over the past 19 years, but recently felt that they are controlled opposition, as they seem to lack creative approaches to getting public attention, and are constantly asking for money.
    I must say I've never felt that about them. I think they do very good work and don't see them as controlled opposition at all. What exactly do you mean by "creative" ? They're a professional body which is going a professional route. Somebody needs do it. They got that Huxley study done which was immense. They've woken up a lot of people in the industry.

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    For the past few years, whenever I have seen video of this taken from nearby buildings by just ordinary citizens, I never see evidence of planes. I think that is telling. Also, notice how black the smoke from the fires are, which indicates a cold fire, not hot enough to melt steel, or bring any buildings down.

    I have followed Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth over the past 19 years, but recently felt that they are controlled opposition, as they seem to lack creative approaches to getting public attention, and are constantly asking for money.
    First of all A&E for 9/11 Truth hadn't been formed 19 years ago.

    Second of all, depending on your vantage point, you may not be able to see the plane approaching.

    I have mixed feelings about A&E.
    A lot of the stuff they do is good.
    But they have focused almost all of their energy on WTC7 and
    they have not been able to figure out that nukes brought all three towers down.

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    I've seen this footage before.

    This shows nothing IMO.. evidence of nothing, terrible camera work.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I've seen this footage before.

    This shows nothing IMO.. evidence of nothing, terrible camera work.
    Yes the camera work is very spotty. It's a pity. They missed the impact which would have shown the plane.

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I've seen this footage before.

    This shows nothing IMO.. evidence of nothing, terrible camera work.
    Yes the camera work is very spotty. It's a pity. They missed the impact which would have shown the plane.
    I was so hopping for that.

    I want to see something fresh with "impact"
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    I remember seeing a live helicopter feed from several miles away of the twin towers. The first 'impact' had occurred, with smoke billowing out of the first tower. Off to the right, an arial object could be seen moving toward the towers, and it was not a plane. Likely a cruise missile, loaded with haulographic projectors. These creeps had high tech to pull this magic trick off.

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I've seen this footage before.

    This shows nothing IMO.. evidence of nothing, terrible camera work.
    Yes the camera work is very spotty. It's a pity. They missed the impact which would have shown the plane.
    Or would have shown no plane. Too bad the camera panned away at that moment. I do find it circumstantially important that no one on the roof top and who was near the person taking the video said anything at all about a plane: not having heard one, or something roaring like one, and not having seen one.

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    My heart feels such sorrow for the souls that died that day ..whoever the perpetrators are they are as far away from the divine as they possibly can be 😢

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    I remember seeing a live helicopter feed from several miles away of the twin towers. The first 'impact' had occurred, with smoke billowing out of the first tower. Off to the right, an arial object could be seen moving toward the towers, and it was not a plane. Likely a cruise missile, loaded with haulographic projectors. These creeps had high tech to pull this magic trick off.
    I think you're talking about the NBC chopper footage, high over the Hudson that captured the approach of UA175, the second plane.

    Probably this one seen at 2min 14sec



    This footage started the infamous 'orb' theory, which I think is what you're referring to. It captured what appeared to be a metallic, spherical object appearing out of the top right of the screen. That is what it looks like at first glance. But you have to analyse before you can theorize. And under analysis it didn't hold up at all. This footage has been thoroughly picked apart. This was 6 or 7 years ago now. I enhanced it myself, and pretty easily. It was poor quality video though, and that was the problem. That's what created the orb. But I believe I was able to prove with analysis and stabilization it was a plane. I posted it somewhere but can't seem to find it now.

    But here's a link to my enhanced Gif of the 'orb'. It was clearly a plane, with a wingspan quite consistent with a Boeing 767.

    https://imgur.com/a/AazRlIM#rPjvQoX

    Below is an enhanced piece of footage of the same plane, at the same moment but from a different angle, hitting the south tower. Not an orb, not a drone, not a missile.

    12.20


    There are multiple threads in the 9/11 sub-forum where discussion and analysis, again over many years, has probed every kind of theory and anomaly you can think of, in fact almost every detail of this event. Well worth digging into.
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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    I remember seeing a live helicopter feed from several miles away of the twin towers. The first 'impact' had occurred, with smoke billowing out of the first tower. Off to the right, an arial object could be seen moving toward the towers, and it was not a plane. Likely a cruise missile, loaded with haulographic projectors. These creeps had high tech to pull this magic trick off.
    I saw this video too. It was not an orb. It was a missle-type object that came from left to right relative to the helicopter and passed at high speed in front of it. I remember the copter being closer than a few miles. Say a few hundred yards.

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    I know nothing about holograms, but don't holograms have to be projected in darkness or in low light with a black background ?

    My mind boggles to think of a successful holographic deception in full blue sky daylight. Not saying it can't be done, it just boggles my mind.
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    Hello Everyone:
    I have found it completely interesting that with all the video. All the experts. All the common sense thinking people trying to figure out what happened that dreadful day that only a handfull have come out and said it was an inside job!

    After researching 9/11 almost 2 decades I believe it was an inside job. Did you all hear that? I believe or it's my opinion 9/11 was an inside job
    ( Now I am probably being put on a "no fly list" as we speak!)

    No worries though....This topic has come up over the years and just like covid 19. No one is willing to just tell the truth. The lies and deception regarding 9/11 make nausea the least of my feelings about all those innocent and precious people being murdered.

    Don't anyone of you believe for a split second that any of the so called hijackers could fly those aircraft and they couldn't even fly a cessna 150 or 172. It is shameful that we all have just agreed with the base story that it was hijackers that killed all those innocent people.

    The evidence has already been brought out many times but there's so much of it that it takes days and days of reading and watching video to realize we have all been blinded by theatre and nice speeches when in reality those that actually did this obtrocity should pay and pay dearly instead of sitting in a resort drinking burbon on the rocks.

    It's a pity our world doesn't hunt the perpetrations of this evil act down and serve them with the justice they deserve!

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    Bombs did go off IMO and the opinion of some who were there.

    David Ickes Book The Trigger spells it out clearly. You have to read it
    to really get the gist of what he is saying. Might be surprising
    to many.

    You don't have to read the whole book. It is enlightening as David's
    books are always.
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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I've seen this footage before.

    This shows nothing IMO.. evidence of nothing, terrible camera work.
    Yes the camera work is very spotty. It's a pity. They missed the impact which would have shown the plane.
    Or would have shown no plane. Too bad the camera panned away at that moment. I do find it circumstantially important that no one on the roof top and who was near the person taking the video said anything at all about a plane: not having heard one, or something roaring like one, and not having seen one.
    Oh sure there is always that possibility. But you know what?
    With some 30+ videos from independent sources all showing a plane impacting/approaching WTC2
    I would bet a handsome amount of money that had he not panned away, we would have seen the plane.

    Over the years I went through every theory in the book, including the 'no planes' theory.
    Meaning, I was a certified 'no-planer'. But that didn't last very long at all.

    Among a stack of evidence showing that planes hit the towers, my two favorite are:

    1. A precious video by a layman shooting from the street a few blocks away from the towers where you clearly hear the plane approaching, then the loud boom, then you hear the guy shooting video telling his friends to duck, as the
    engine came flying away from the tower to land on Church St., then you hear the engine making a thud as it bounces/lands.
    The timing of all the sounds are perfect, when you measure the speed the engine was traveling at, the distance it traveled etc.

    2. The swaying of the tower upon impact.


    Just to be clear. Planes did hit the towers, but not Flt. 11 and 175.
    And there were no hijackers on board nor passengers.
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    Quote Posted by janette (here)
    My heart feels such sorrow for the souls that died that day ..whoever the perpetrators are they are as far away from the divine as they possibly can be 😢
    Yes my heart feels sorrow for those too.
    But you know what?

    My heart feels 1,000's of time more sorrow for the millions of INNOCENT humans who have died NEEDLESSLY in the middle east as a direct result of the false flag attacks on 9/11.

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    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Bombs did go off IMO and the opinion of some who were there.

    David Ickes Book The Trigger spells it out clearly. You have to read it
    to really get the gist of what he is saying. Might be surprising
    to many.

    You don't have to read the whole book. It is enlightening as David's
    books are always.
    Bombs were going off all day!
    Before the towers were hit, when WTC1/2 were blown up, before
    WTC7 came down and when it came down.

    After all the towers were down the bombs finally stopped.

    We're talking a mixed type of bombs being used.

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    Quote Posted by chancy (here)
    Hello Everyone:
    I have found it completely interesting that with all the video. All the experts. All the common sense thinking people trying to figure out what happened that dreadful day that only a handfull have come out and said it was an inside job!

    After researching 9/11 almost 2 decades I believe it was an inside job. Did you all hear that? I believe or it's my opinion 9/11 was an inside job
    ( Now I am probably being put on a "no fly list" as we speak!)

    No worries though....This topic has come up over the years and just like covid 19. No one is willing to just tell the truth. The lies and deception regarding 9/11 make nausea the least of my feelings about all those innocent and precious people being murdered.

    Don't anyone of you believe for a split second that any of the so called hijackers could fly those aircraft and they couldn't even fly a cessna 150 or 172. It is shameful that we all have just agreed with the base story that it was hijackers that killed all those innocent people.

    The evidence has already been brought out many times but there's so much of it that it takes days and days of reading and watching video to realize we have all been blinded by theatre and nice speeches when in reality those that actually did this obtrocity should pay and pay dearly instead of sitting in a resort drinking burbon on the rocks.

    It's a pity our world doesn't hunt the perpetrations of this evil act down and serve them with the justice they deserve!

    chancy
    From my experience it has been quite different.
    I would expect most Avaloners to agree 9/11 was an inside job.

    Most have differing opinions of various details that occurred on that day, but that's not really important
    in the overall scheme of things.

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