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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Beirut explosion: CCTV captures moment blast struck hospital:
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Interesting video comparing the explosions in Beirut 2020 and Syria 2019.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/https://www.bitchute.com/video/P13Yz4J7xBqG/


    Without drawing any inferences or conclusions, I have to say they do look very similar.

    Watch until the end of the video and according to Trump, it would seem his generals also also think it was a bomb of some sort, not an industrial accident.
    My conspiracy mind points to 99% an attack of a kind of nuclear/new weapon. Sadly we have come to a time when the American president tells the world it was a weapon attack and most of the world does not know or believe it, as reflected in the opinions in this thread. The whole incident was underreported too. After missing the first reports I have not seen any TV coverage of the event because Hong Kong TV is occupied with trivial covid-19 reports.

    Is this the prelude to massacres of city populations by nuclear bombs?

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

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    Is this the prelude to massacres of city populations by nuclear bombs?
    does it matter what kind of bomb blows up a city?

    (this was NOT done by a nuclear device)
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

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    Sadly we have come to a time when the American president tells the world it was a weapon attack and most of the world does not know or believe it, as reflected in the opinions in this thread.



    [ this is not a multimillion dollar public enquiry report, it's just my kneejerk response to your post ]


    The 'opinions' of people on this thread are bum rushed past the process of unpacking what the evidence, from the beginning, can tell us. No later than the night after it happened the internet, this thread included, went nuts about some obviously dodgy video on youtube, quickly joined by a cluster of copycat frenzy lookalike nonsense. Within 24 hours the internet was arguing about exotic weaponry and even nukes. The initial "attack" that Trump may be talking about, was completely sidelined by the nonsense around deliberately altered videos, by who knows who and for who knows what reason.

    Go right back to the very first video we all saw soon after it happened. The one that was shot from what seemed to be an apartment in a block and a few floors up from the ground, looking over the city rooftops towards the port where there was a lot of "firecrackers" going off inside a plume of dark smoke, in the port area. Start again from scratch, as if none of the other crazy "nuke" videos had ever been dropped on us so soon.

    As a mental exercise, forget the secondary huge blast and study the initial event up to that secondary blast. Look carefully at the 'firecrackers' and look carefully how they scale in proportion to the now destroyed Grain Silo quite close to it at the port. Then go and look at those drone videos above and realise how huge that Silo is. Then get a feel for how big those 'Firecracker' explosions really were. They were the size of missiles exploding.

    Work it out from there, when Trump says his experts think it was an attack.

    If there really was 2700 tons of Ammonium Nitrate stacked on pallets next door to a bunch of "attacked" missiles in storage or transit to elsewhere, I think that pretty much accounts for why the secondary bang was so huge and produced a pressure vapour cloud.

    Here's another mental exercise. Imagine the possibility that whoever attacked the stored missiles didn't actually intend to wipe out the whole city with the secondary explosion, and is in a panic about it and trying to distract and cover up and shift position from being about to brag about how powerful they were ( and threatening ) to being worried the whole world will condemn them for such a gross crime against humanity. Why was French President Macron rushed to the scene and to do what, deliver a message like oooops we screwed up don't make this complicated? Days later, members of the government are resigning and running. The people are furious that such a stupid thing could happen.

    I suspect, of course, that there's a LOT of dodgy politics involved with multiple parties, both about the Ammonium Nitrate storage at the port and the probable missile store and the attack on it. I wish I was a fly on the wall when Rothschild bagman Macron met with the government, and heard what he really said behind closed doors.
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

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    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)

    Is this the prelude to massacres of city populations by nuclear bombs?
    does it matter what kind of bomb blows up a city?

    (this was NOT done by a nuclear device)
    If you want to destroy a city and you have a nice and small bomb, don't you want to use them instead? I know nothing about bombs, but is there a non-nuclear bomb that produces a perfect mushroom cloud or plume, and a white shock wave travelling at enormous speed? We should look at the comparisons. I don't have the videos to compare. The comparison with the Syrian explosion looks very close.
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    If you want to destroy a city and you have a nice and small bomb, don't you want to use them instead? I know nothing about bombs, but is there a non-nuclear bomb that produces a perfect mushroom cloud or plume, and a white shock wave travelling at enormous speed? We should look at the comparisons. I don't have the videos to compare. The comparison with the Syrian explosion looks very close.
    sure, plenty of them... but honestly it's VERY hard to find a situation where 2,700 tons of a HIGHLY explosive material were set off at once, that's larger than any bomber would carry.

    Here's non nuke:


    you have to find things like this to get what you saw, large concentrations of highly reactive chemicals (btw, the OKC federal building was hit with around 2,000 lbs of Ammonium N. and the devastation there and in Beirut shows you the power of "fertilizer")

    Here's some more A.N. used... and it's damn impressive:
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by Sasha Alisa (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    If it walks like a nuke, talks like a nuke, and quacks like a nuke,
    it's ammonium nitrate!
    Problem is that it doesn't quack like a nuke

    It lacks the basic stuff, the cloud is not nuclear cloud, the videos taken from very close continue to record even after the blast, something impossible with a nuclear bomb, of whatever kind it was

    So it would be reversed, question would be, how come a person two blocks from the main explosion can keep recording? After a nuclear blast? It's not possible, they would not exist at all. And neither the cameras would, and the flash would be instant, yet cameras kept recording after, impossible (even if owners were turned into dust, because absolutely no one could survive a nuclear blast at 100 meters of the ground zero)

    Yet we see here the total opposite Deja Vu by the way :D xi xi

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1371069
    Two blocks away? 100 meters? Huh?
    How did you come up with that?

    The clouds are classic pyroclastic clouds, the signature of either a volcano or a nuclear device.

    Today's nukes are not the same as vintage 1945 nukes!

    They come in all different flavors now. Big, small, high-radioactivity (dirty), low-radioactivity (clean) etc.

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Case closed folks....nice job from the guys at Veterans Today...

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/0...clear-missile/

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    [...]
    The 'opinions' of people on this thread are bum rushed past the process of unpacking what the evidence, from the beginning, can tell us....
    See the following video (from post # 115) to get an idea of the scale of some fireworks... like the kind used for "Grand Finales":
    In other words, fireworks "deflagrate" since if they were built to "detonate" (like a missile would be built to do), there wouldn't be any visual effects.

    Accordingly, those fireworks stored next to the 3KT equivalent of Ammonium Nitrate produced the heat and deflagrations necessary to detonate the "fertilizer" unless said 2750 bags of 1T fertilizer were set up to detonate all at once via controlled demolition technology.

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    The 'opinions' of people on this thread are bum rushed past the process of unpacking what the evidence, from the beginning, can tell us. No later than the night after it happened the internet, this thread included, went nuts about some obviously dodgy video on youtube, quickly joined by a cluster of copycat frenzy lookalike nonsense.
    Yep!

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    It seems the entire Lebanese government is resigning.

    From Al Jazeera, 15 mins ago:
    'Endemic corruption' caused Beirut blast, says Diab: Live updates

    PM Hassan Diab announces resignation of his government, says 'the 'system of corruption is bigger than the state'.
    • Lebanon's Justice Minister Marie Claude Najm, Information Minister Manal Abdel Samad, and Environment Minister Damianos Kattar have all resigned from their posts.
    • Lebanese police fired tear gas to try to disperse rock-throwing protesters blocking a road near Parliament in Beirut on Sunday in a second day of anti-government demonstrations triggered by last week's devastating explosion.
    • International leaders joined a virtual donor conference led by France and the UN in the aftermath of the devastating explosion, pledging nearly $300m in humanitarian assistance that will be "directly delivered to the Lebanese population".
    • US President Donald Trump has announced that the US will give "substantial" aid to Lebanon, but did not specify how much.
    • The IMF said it is willing to redouble efforts to help Lebanon after the devastating explosion, but said all of the country's institutions needed to show willingness to carry out reforms.
    (...continued here)

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    PM Hassan Diab announces resignation of his government, says 'the 'system of corruption is bigger than the state'.
    Lebanon will sink deeper into the chaos ...



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    Israel TV: Hezbollah apparently wanted Beirut’s ammonium nitrate for Israel war
    TV cites assessment Nasrallah may have intended to use stockpile that caused port blast in ‘Third Lebanon War’, notes cases in Germany, UK where Hezbollah caught with same material

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...or-israel-war/

    By TOI staff
    8 August 2020, 1:09 am

    Hezbollah apparently planned to use the ammonium nitrate stockpile that caused a massive bast at Beirut’s port this week against Israel in a “Third Lebanon War,” according to an unsourced assessment publicized on Israel’s Channel 13 Friday night.

    The report was broadcast hours after Hezbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, gave a speech “categorically” denying that his group had stored any weapons or explosives at Beirut’s port, following the massive explosion there Tuesday that has claimed over 157 lives and wounded thousands. “I would like to absolutely, categorically rule out anything belonging to us at the port. No weapons, no missiles, or bombs or rifles or even a bullet or ammonium nitrate,” Nasrallah said. “No cache, no nothing. Not now, not ever.”

    Israel has not formally alleged that Hezbollah was connected to the Tuesday blast.

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    There was NO NITRATE !
    Mossad planted that story 8 years ago for this ocasion .
    Justanother false flag like 911.

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    Investigators Find Underground Chamber Beneath Beirut Port:

    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...eckage-Reports

    Quote Lebanese families of victims of the Beirut port explosion are holding out hope after investigators and rescue workers found what appears to be an “underground emergency shelter,” according to reports, despite denials by the government of their existence.



    Were suspicious tunnels near Beirut Port discovered after the explosion?
    The Lebanese Armed Forces have denied the existence of tunnels.

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/we...plosion-638131


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    Quote Posted by The Moss Trooper (here)
    Were suspicious tunnels near Beirut Port discovered after the explosion?
    The Lebanese Armed Forces have denied the existence of tunnels.

    Sounds about right, I mean it fits a certain pattern............


    The Syrian women and girls sold into sexual slavery in Lebanon

    I mean, there certainly seems to be a crackdown on that type of activity lately & this kinda fits the MO if you look into who owned areas around the port etc (I seem to recall the moniker of "Arabian Rothschild's" or something similar.....(that family is a rabbit hole of it's own.. holy crap this world has so many of those it seems)).
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    Quote I study it frame by frame and saw 100% evidence of FAKERY!
    Could you go into some detail on this evidence? I'm not very technical so I may not understand it.
    check the square pixel in the last frame, it wasn't there in the previous frames,
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote check the square pixel in the last frame, it wasn't there in the previous frames,
    I can't figure out what you're referring to.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1370927

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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    Quote check the square pixel in the last frame, it wasn't there in the previous frames,
    I can't figure out what you're referring to.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1370927
    If you don't understand the particulars it will take quite a bit to get you up to speed, this is very fake; and that is not my opinion, it IS fake.

    The "post explosion" data supports that as well, the nitrate amount (which was photographed and known to be there for around 6 years) was MORE than enough to accomplish what we saw, there's nothing else needed really; not to mention the huge clouds of nitrate afterwards....

    this effort would be best aimed elsewhere, not at red herrings.
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    Default Re: Beirut: Many dead after huge explosion in Lebanese capital

    Nuclear bombs need a reaction, before they explode, it takes a bit of time to do that

    So, when a nuclear bomb is reaching the ground, it needs a few seconds to trigger the mechanism that detonates the actual bomb. If the missile or bomb were to hit the ground at the speed it was going, the entire mechanism that would turn the bomb on would be completely destroyed, so no bomb explosion at all

    If it hits the ground without activating the sequence, nothing but the missile hitting the floor will happen, and there will be an explosion due to the speed, but very small in comparison, because nuclear bombs explode with sensors that say "i'm 100 meters before reaching land"

    Nuclear explosion direct and side effects have not changed at all since it was built for the first time. Nuclear bombs still need some altitude to be effective. If you launch a nuclear missile that penetrates earth, as in to destroy a bunker, it makes the earth jump badly(no mushroom is seen) So you don't see the same effect on the air as this explosion on Beirut

    A bomb detonated on the air is meant to distribute all the power across all the land around it, like all the images we know from history where we see mushroom clouds

    An underground bomb doesn't show the same behavior, look it up online

    Over the air bombs cause a mushroom effect because they explode above the land, and once the explosion reaches the land then it causes that mushroom effect. If a missile hits underground it can go like 20/30 meters below ground before it explodes, a special missile is required for that, one that doesn't get's totaled at the moment it hits the ground. An underground/ground level explosion would look like this



    Let's ask another question

    A lot of medical groups went into ground zero to rescue survivors, did those people look into contamination that could kill them in less than a day/hours? Or are we going to see thousands of people dying just now? because we are way above the time limit for nuclear radiation death by now. And cell phones/other tech did not stopped working, we have video from before/after the explosion right next to where it happened, there was no "flash" as usual in nuclear explosions that would have burned all tech around the city

    There's a lot of evidence that this was not a nuclear explosion. However that doesn't mean there wasn't another kind of explosive involved (as in a bomb placed on that location so it would cause the bigger explosion)
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