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    Default Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Julian Assange possibly?

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Sorry Julian Assange, Trump just pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century.

    Trump pardons Susan B. Anthony for crime of voting as a woman
    The women's suffrage activist was arrested in 1872 .The women's suffrage activist was arrested in 1872 .
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...anthony-397583


    On Monday night, President Donald Trump said he would have a pardon announcement coming Tuesday.
    Quote According to the Associated Press, Trump is going to pardon women’s suffrage activist Susan B. Anthony.

    Anthony was arrested for voting in 1872 when only men could vote. She was later convicted but refused to pay the fines attached to her conviction.

    Tuesday marks 100 years since the 19th amendment was ratified, giving women their right to vote.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...anthony-397583
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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    The answer is Susan B. Anthony as evidenced here:

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Yes, maybe a bit of a political misjudgment. By making quite a big deal of who he did pardon, all the attention then went to who he didn't.

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century


    UPDATE: Oops, Kryztian and Tintin. It took me longer than I thought to research and compose this post.


    (Wiki) - As of July 11, 2020, Republican president Donald Trump pardoned, commuted, or rescinded the conviction of 36 people.

    The date and occasion needs to be factored in:
    [B]August 18, 2020, the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which gave American women the right to vote.

    Susan B. Anthony, suffragist and long-time proponent and organizer for women's suffrage in the United States who was convicted of voting in the 1872 election. Pardoned on August 18, 2020, the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which gave American women the right to vote.

    List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the president of the United States

    As of July 11, 2020, Republican president Donald Trump pardoned, commuted, or rescinded the conviction of 36 people. Among them were:
    • Joe Arpaio, former Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, was convicted of contempt of court for refusing to end the practice of "immigrant round ups," and was awaiting sentencing. Pardoned on August 25, 2017.[41]
    • Sholom Rubashkin, an Iowa meatpacking magnate sentenced to 27 years in prison for bank fraud in 2010. Commuted on December 20, 2017.[42]
    • Kristian Saucier, a former U.S. Navy sailor pleaded guilty to unauthorized possession and retention of national defense information in 2016, released the following year. Pardoned on March 9, 2018.[43]
    • Lewis "Scooter" Libby, former chief of staff to the vice president of the United States, convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with the CIA leak scandal. The sentence was already commuted to time served by President George W. Bush in July 2007, shortly after Libby's conviction. Pardoned on April 13, 2018.[32][44][45]
    • Jack Johnson, a champion boxer who was convicted in 1913 while traveling with his white girlfriend for violating the Mann Act, which made it illegal to transport women across state lines for "immoral" purposes, released after one year. Posthumously pardoned on May 24, 2018.[46][47][48][49]
    • Dinesh D'Souza, author and documentary filmmaker, convicted of campaign finance violations in 2014. Pardoned on May 31, 2018.[50][51][52]
    • Alice Johnson, an unemployed parcel delivery worker and first-time drug offender sentenced to life without parole in 1996 for conspiracy to possess cocaine, attempted possession of cocaine, and money laundering. Commuted on June 6, 2018.[53][54][55][56][57]
    • Dwight Hammond and Steven Hammond, Oregon ranchers convicted in 2012 of two counts of arson on federal land. Commuted and pardoned on July 10, 2018.[58][59][60][61][62]
    • Michael Behenna, former United States Army First Lieutenant who was convicted in 2009 of murdering an unarmed prisoner during the Iraq War. Sentenced to 25 years in military prison, paroled in 2014. Pardoned on May 7, 2019.[63]
    • Conrad Black, a British newspaper publisher convicted in 2007 of fraud and obstruction of justice for scheming to siphon off millions of dollars from the sale of newspapers, spent 3-1/2 years in prison and was deported. Pardoned on May 15, 2019.[64]
    • Pat Nolan, former California state legislator who pleaded guilty to racketeering in 1994, served 2 years and 2 months in prison. Pardoned on May 16, 2019.[65]
    • Zay Jeffries, a mining engineer and former Vice President of General Electric. He was convicted in 1948 of violating of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890 and fined; died in 1965. Posthumously pardoned by Trump on October 10, 2019.[66]
    • Mathew L. Golsteyn, a US Army officer who served in the War in Afghanistan. He was accused of murder after the 2010 killing of an unarmed Afghan bomb maker who was a prisoner of war, and the U.S. Army had opened an investigation of him in 2016. Pardoned on November 15, 2019.[67]
    • Clint Lorance, a former first lieutenant with the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division in the U.S. Army and veteran of the War in Afghanistan. He was convicted on two counts of second-degree murder for ordering soldiers in his platoon to open fire at three men sitting on a motorcycle in southern Afghanistan in July 2012 while his platoon was on combat patrol. During the trial all platoon members testified that the men were sitting, unmoving on a motorcycle while the defendant claimed the motorcycle was approaching at a high rate of speed. He was sentenced to 19 years in prison in August 2013, and sent to Fort Leavenworth. Pardoned on November 15, 2019.[68]
    • Rod Blagojevich, former Governor of Illinois, was charged with attempting to sell an appointment to the U.S. Senate to succeed President-elect Barack Obama. Was convicted of soliciting bribes, extortion, and wire fraud on June 27, 2011, and sentenced to 14 years in prison. Was commuted to time served on February 18, 2020.[69]
    • Bernard Kerik, former New York City Police Commissioner, pleaded guilty to tax fraud and perjury in 2010 for concealing apartment renovations paid for by a contractor that the city had blacklisted because of suspected ties to organized crime. Was sentenced to four years in prison in 2010; was released in May 2013. Pardoned on February 18, 2020.[69]
    • Roger Stone, a longtime political operative and friend of Donald Trump, was convicted in November 2019 on charges of witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements in the course of inhibiting the investigation of the Trump campaign by Robert Mueller. He was sentenced to 40 months in prison, but on July 10, 2020, President Trump commuted the sentence before Stone reported to prison.[70]
    • Susan B. Anthony, suffragist and long-time proponent and organizer for women's suffrage in the United States who was convicted of voting in the 1872 election. Pardoned on August 18, 2020, the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which gave American women the right to vote.

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Sorry Julian Assange, Trump just pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century.
    Last edited by RunningDeer; 18th August 2020 at 16:30.

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    I’m afraid the odds of this current version of deep state removing the talons from the likes of Assange or Snowden, are about on the same par as the long awaited mass arrests. Zip, zero, zilch.

    Assange quit being of use to Trump, after successfully invoking him during his phony run as a swamp draining, war ending populist. Now it’s wishing Ghislaine Maxwell well, and Wiki who?

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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)

    List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the president of the United States

    As of July 11, 2020, Republican president Donald Trump pardoned, commuted, or rescinded the conviction of 36 people. Among them were:
    • Joe Arpaio, former Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, was convicted of contempt of court for refusing to end the practice of "immigrant round ups," and was awaiting sentencing. Pardoned on August 25, 2017.[41]
    • Sholom Rubashkin, an Iowa meatpacking magnate sentenced to 27 years in prison for bank fraud in 2010. Commuted on December 20, 2017.[42]
    • Kristian Saucier, a former U.S. Navy sailor pleaded guilty to unauthorized possession and retention of national defense information in 2016, released the following year. Pardoned on March 9, 2018.[43]
    • Lewis "Scooter" Libby, former chief of staff to the vice president of the United States, convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with the CIA leak scandal. The sentence was already commuted to time served by President George W. Bush in July 2007, shortly after Libby's conviction. Pardoned on April 13, 2018.[32][44][45]
    • Jack Johnson, a champion boxer who was convicted in 1913 while traveling with his white girlfriend for violating the Mann Act, which made it illegal to transport women across state lines for "immoral" purposes, released after one year. Posthumously pardoned on May 24, 2018.[46][47][48][49]
    • Dinesh D'Souza, author and documentary filmmaker, convicted of campaign finance violations in 2014. Pardoned on May 31, 2018.[50][51][52]
    • Alice Johnson, an unemployed parcel delivery worker and first-time drug offender sentenced to life without parole in 1996 for conspiracy to possess cocaine, attempted possession of cocaine, and money laundering. Commuted on June 6, 2018.[53][54][55][56][57]
    • Dwight Hammond and Steven Hammond, Oregon ranchers convicted in 2012 of two counts of arson on federal land. Commuted and pardoned on July 10, 2018.[58][59][60][61][62]
    • Michael Behenna, former United States Army First Lieutenant who was convicted in 2009 of murdering an unarmed prisoner during the Iraq War. Sentenced to 25 years in military prison, paroled in 2014. Pardoned on May 7, 2019.[63]
    • Conrad Black, a British newspaper publisher convicted in 2007 of fraud and obstruction of justice for scheming to siphon off millions of dollars from the sale of newspapers, spent 3-1/2 years in prison and was deported. Pardoned on May 15, 2019.[64]
    • Pat Nolan, former California state legislator who pleaded guilty to racketeering in 1994, served 2 years and 2 months in prison. Pardoned on May 16, 2019.[65]
    • Zay Jeffries, a mining engineer and former Vice President of General Electric. He was convicted in 1948 of violating of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890 and fined; died in 1965. Posthumously pardoned by Trump on October 10, 2019.[66]
    • Mathew L. Golsteyn, a US Army officer who served in the War in Afghanistan. He was accused of murder after the 2010 killing of an unarmed Afghan bomb maker who was a prisoner of war, and the U.S. Army had opened an investigation of him in 2016. Pardoned on November 15, 2019.[67]
    • Clint Lorance, a former first lieutenant with the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division in the U.S. Army and veteran of the War in Afghanistan. He was convicted on two counts of second-degree murder for ordering soldiers in his platoon to open fire at three men sitting on a motorcycle in southern Afghanistan in July 2012 while his platoon was on combat patrol. During the trial all platoon members testified that the men were sitting, unmoving on a motorcycle while the defendant claimed the motorcycle was approaching at a high rate of speed. He was sentenced to 19 years in prison in August 2013, and sent to Fort Leavenworth. Pardoned on November 15, 2019.[68]
    • Rod Blagojevich, former Governor of Illinois, was charged with attempting to sell an appointment to the U.S. Senate to succeed President-elect Barack Obama. Was convicted of soliciting bribes, extortion, and wire fraud on June 27, 2011, and sentenced to 14 years in prison. Was commuted to time served on February 18, 2020.[69]
    • Bernard Kerik, former New York City Police Commissioner, pleaded guilty to tax fraud and perjury in 2010 for concealing apartment renovations paid for by a contractor that the city had blacklisted because of suspected ties to organized crime. Was sentenced to four years in prison in 2010; was released in May 2013. Pardoned on February 18, 2020.[69]
    • Roger Stone, a longtime political operative and friend of Donald Trump, was convicted in November 2019 on charges of witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements in the course of inhibiting the investigation of the Trump campaign by Robert Mueller. He was sentenced to 40 months in prison, but on July 10, 2020, President Trump commuted the sentence before Stone reported to prison.[70]
    • Susan B. Anthony, suffragist and long-time proponent and organizer for women's suffrage in the United States who was convicted of voting in the 1872 election. Pardoned on August 18, 2020, the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which gave American women the right to vote.
    Wow, what a list. With a few exceptions (Alice Johnson, Dwight Hammond and Steven Hammond) they are all law makers, law enforcers or pundits who go on TV to tell us what the law should be and how it should be enforced. They are largely Washington beltway insiders or have strong connections in that network. The message seems clear: some of us make the laws, the rest of us have to abide by it. It really shows if you are well connected to the Washington Beltway, your criminality can be overlooked.

    While most American would not find it in their budget to play around of golf at the Mar-A-Lago country club, most of the above would shell out that money without a second thought(except for the three I mentioned and possibly the two military officers).

    Tommorrow's NY Post headline should be: TRUMP RESTOCKS SWAMP

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Jack Johnson was quite THE MAN!

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Tommorrow's NY Post headline should be: TRUMP RESTOCKS SWAMP
    That could have been the headline based solely on his cabinet picks.

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Here's someone Trump could have pardoned, and there are thousands more like him:
    Quote Louisiana court upholds black man's life sentence for trying to steal hedge clippers

    Fair Wayne Bryant was sentenced to life in prison in 1997 for attempted simple burglary, and justices rejected his recent appeal

    A black man in Louisiana will continue to serve a life sentence in prison for trying to steal hedge clippers after the state supreme court denied a request to review his sentence.

    Fair Wayne Bryant was convicted in 1997 of attempted simple burglary.

    The five justices who rejected his appeal – all white men – did not explain the reasoning for their decision, which was first reported by the Lens, a non-profit news site in New Orleans.
    Story continues at: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...hedge-clippers

    There are thousands of people who are sentenced in Federal prisons for extreme sentences for non violent crimes under mandatory sentencing guidelines which were made law with the help of Joe Biden. If Trump wanted to do something politically savvy and also do a good deed, he would pardon hundreds or thousands of these people who have served sufficient time but, because of the Federal law, aren't eligible for parole. It would also translate into savings for U.S. taxpayers.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)

    Wow, what a list. With a few exceptions (Alice Johnson, Dwight Hammond and Steven Hammond) they are all law makers, law enforcers or pundits who go on TV to tell us what the law should be and how it should be enforced. They are largely Washington beltway insiders or have strong connections in that network. The message seems clear: some of us make the laws, the rest of us have to abide by it. It really shows if you are well connected to the Washington Beltway, your criminality can be overlooked.
    Wow, only 3? You and I read a different list. There’s unfair bias when it comes to news outlets and elsewhere reporting All Things Trump. It's been demonstrated countless times. You and I know why some will never put forth the effort to research them. It doesn't fit their love to hate narrative.

    List of people granted executive clemency by Donald Trump ( including pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve) - Wiki article
    Since taking office as the 45th president of the United States on January 20, 2017, Donald Trump has granted executive clemency to 25 individuals charged or convicted of federal criminal offenses, as authorized under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution.[1] Ordinarily, all requests for executive clemency for federal offenses are directed to the Office of the Pardon Attorney in the U.S. Department of Justice for review; however, Trump has frequently bypassed the Justice Department, and the majority of his executive clemency grants have been to well-connected convicted persons who did not file a petition with the Office of the Pardon Attorney or meet the Office's requirements.[2]

    Article II of the United States Constitution gives the president the power of clemency, which "may take several forms, including pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve".[3] The two most commonly used clemency powers are those of pardon and commutation. A pardon is an official forgiveness for an acknowledged crime. Once a pardon is issued, all punishment for the crime is waived.[4] The president can only grant pardons for federal offenses.[1] The president can also commute a sentence. A commutation reduces the severity of a sentence without vacating the conviction itself; for example, a commutation may reduce or eliminate a prison term, while leaving other punishments intact.[5][6]

    The power of clemency is "one of the most unlimited powers bestowed on the president by the Constitution.”[2]

    List of people granted executive clemency by Barack Obama - Wiki article
    By the end of his second and final term on January 20, 2017, United States President Barack Obama had exercised his constitutional power to grant the executive clemency—that is, "pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve"[1]—to 1,927 individuals convicted of federal crimes. Of the acts of clemency, 1715 were commutations (including 504 life sentences) and 212 were pardons.[2][3] Most individuals granted executive clemency by Obama had been convicted on drug charges,[4] and had received lengthy and sometimes mandatory sentences at the height of the war on drugs.[5]

    Obama holds the record for the largest single-day use of the clemency power, granting 330 commutations on January 19, 2017, his last full day in office.[6][7] He also issued more commutations than the past 13 presidents combined.[2][8]
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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Wow, Only 3? You and I read a different list.
    Yes, three. I didn't say that any of these pardons were unfair or undeserved, I was saying that these people who are being exempted from the consequences of their illegal actions are also either involved in government making the law or enforcing it, and/or in media punditry, trying to influence public opinion about which laws should be enforced.

    I did not include the two people who were long dead, because these are basically symbolic pardons. And full disclosure, I didn't completely research Sholom Rubashkin and Conrad Black, but I assume they have deep pockets and used their influence through K street to influence government. Please feel to correct the record if I am wrong.

    Quote There’s unfair bias when it comes to news outlets and elsewhere reporting All Things Trump. It's been demonstrated countless times.
    Yes, I agree and avoid the MSM for this reason, or at least, take it under consideration. I have numerous friends with TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), and if you saw my Facebook page, you would see I've said a few positive or apologetic comments about this president and his actions, because it is the TDS people I am trying to communicate with.

    I am not making my point here to say anything about Donald Trump, but about the U.S. justice system, and it's lack of justice, especially for the 99% who don't have connections inside the Washington Beltway. Frankly, I do not pretend to know who Donald Trump really is, I just judge by his actions. And his presidential pardons show him in these instance to be, at best elitist and at worst a practitioner of cronyism. This doesn't make him the worst politician to me, just makes him look like a typical politician. As good old Heinz Kissinger would say: "It's the corrupt politicians that make the other 10% look bad."

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    I never was a fan of what often feels like a back and forth volley. I get sucked into that downward ego spiral where the parties jump from the main theme into the blackhole of endless unrelated justifications.

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    Presidential pardoning is one of the most powerful political tools available to a sitting U.S. president. With the stroke of a pen, the commander in chief can forgive someone for their crime and restore the civil rights they lost. Pardons are typically granted to white-collar criminals. But now, President Trump is testing the notion of whether a sitting president can pardon himself, and the Constitution leaves the question up for interpretation.

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    He (El Presidente) probably is playing on the alternative cabal team, version 2.0. After so many years and deeds (like this pardon) he is clearly not issuing mass arrests etc.
    I like many others feel rather disappointed, I had hoped for more, faster and clear. He belongs in america with the rest of his colleagues of Mexico, Chile, Panama etc.

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    Dishonest Susan B. Anthony Museum Slams Trump After Pardon — Forgets It Was Republicans and GOP Women Who Led the Suffragette Movement

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ette-movement/

    Great move on his part when there are those in this country trying to suppress voting and have rigged elections for years. He highlights in history how Democratic men once tried to suppress the votes of women. Brilliant move and pulled the focus off Stone by the way.

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    Default Re: Trump has pardoned Susan B. Anthony, a woman's rights activist from the 19th century

    Quote Posted by Moz (here)
    He (El Presidente) probably is playing on the alternative cabal team, version 2.0. After so many years and deeds (like this pardon) he is clearly not issuing mass arrests etc.
    I like many others feel rather disappointed, I had hoped for more, faster and clear. He belongs in america with the rest of his colleagues of Mexico, Chile, Panama etc.
    The "mass arrests" were always an alternative media fiction. They were never promised by Trump, or anyone close to the White House.


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