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    Can someone provide a link to the video being discussed please? The video mentioned above about the remote viewers Dick & Edward. I looked on youtube but I cannot find this specific video. Thank you very much!
    You can only access it if you're a member of that site. I can try to lay out the bullet points later. A civil war is sparked after an assassination attempt (presumed Trump). That's the catalyst event, followed by earth cataclysms, the players involved (way beyond World Economic forum, think ET's, entities) a harvest of souls, two battling factions (mantoids versus reptoids) in a checkmate, much more, will write more later.
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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

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    3. Harris wins, Biden figurehead. Left initially celebrates but the economy tanks and everyone is scared and nervous and hoarding in earnest. When taxes are raised, Patriot Americans finally revolt and the left responds by going into demolition mode. Civil war.

    Keith Olbermann: ‘Trump and His Supporters Must Be Prosecuted, Convicted and Removed From Our Society’


    Former ESPN host Keith Olbermann ran right up to the line in a revolutionary-style anti-Trump rant on his YouTube channel Thursday calling for the prosecution, conviction and removal from society of President Trump, his supporters and conservatives including Supreme Court nominee Judge Amy Coney Barrett.

    Olbermann: “Trump can be and must be expunged. The hate he has triggered, the Pandora’s Box he has opened, they will not be so easily destroyed. So, let us brace ourselves. The task is two-fold. The terrorist Trump must be defeated, must be destroyed, must be devoured at the ballot box. And then he and his enablers and his supporters and his collaborators and the Mike Lees and the William Barrs and the Sean Hannitys and the Mike Pences and the Rudy Giulianis and the Kyle Rittenhouses and the Amy Coney Barretts must be prosecuted and convicted and removed from our society while we try to rebuild it, and to rebuild the world Trump has nearly destroyed by turning it over to a virus.



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    ...

    The above transcript is included in the following account of a lucid dream:

    Lucid Dream re: Cabal, Re-Education Camps, Flu bio warfare, assassination call for Trump
    23:27

    Oct 11, 2020

    Carrie Kohan

    Another Lucid Dream of Oct 11, 2020 5:55am

    Visions of:
    • Re-Education / Internment Camps in Canada;
    • Toxic Vaccine for Health Care Workers;
    • Former Sol Gen Wayne Easter enforcing a Law-Less Society, while illegally shutting down Hearings into Trudeau
    • Transport of Flu Virus Seasonably from China;
    • Say NO to the Small Stuff;
    • Cabal's call out for assassination of Trump and allies
    • Mind Control Bad ET's (BETs) who are betting we won't rise up before it's too late.
    • Cannibalism - Humans as food.

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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    Quote Posted by Ami (here)
    Can someone provide a link to the video being discussed please? The video mentioned above about the remote viewers Dick & Edward. I looked on youtube but I cannot find this specific video. Thank you very much!
    You have to be a member of Crypto Viewing at a certain subscription level to watch it. I'm a member, but I can't watch it.
    The only place a perfect right angle ever CAN be, is the mind.

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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well heading into the 2020 elections.



    Now that Trump has defeated the China Flu, all bets are off on the level of insanity it will unleash in the trump-haters. The plandemic lie is being outed and it is beyond the ability of some to comprehend life returning to normal without a vaccine.

    It will make for a very interesting 2021.
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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    ...

    The above transcript is included in the following account of a lucid dream:

    Lucid Dream re: Cabal, Re-Education Camps, Flu bio warfare, assassination call for Trump
    23:27

    Oct 11, 2020

    Carrie Kohan

    Another Lucid Dream of Oct 11, 2020 5:55am

    Visions of:
    • Re-Education / Internment Camps in Canada;
    [...]
    Politician raises alarm over Trudeau Govt’s plan to build COVID ‘Quarantine/Isolation’ camps

    The camps will be built across Canada.

    By Anthony Murdoch
    Fri Oct 9, 2020 - 7:17 pm EST


    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Nov. 11, 2015, Ottawa, Ontario. Art Babych / Shutterstock.com

    OTTAWA, Ontario, October 9, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – An Ontario politician is raising alarm over the Trudeau Liberal government’s plan to expand COVID isolation/quarantine facilities coast to coast.

    Randy Hillier, Independent Ontario MPP for Lanark, Frontenac & Kingston, expressed concern over the “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” in the provincial question period late this week.

    He asked the Doug Ford government of Ontario if they knew of “how many of these camps will be built, and how many people does this government expect to detain.” He pointed out how documentation shows that the “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” could be used for “other requirements” besides for COVID-19.
    “So your government must be in negotiations and aware of these plans to potentially detain and isolate citizens and residents of our country and our province, so speaker, to the Premier, where will these camps be built, how many people will be detained, and for what reason, for what reasons can people be kept in these isolation camps, and I’d like to have the Premier assure the people of Ontario…,” said Hillier, whose microphone was cut off before he could finish.
    In an email sent to his followers, Hillier expressed more of his concerns.
    “The Premier has been actively dodging my questions since July. Today was just another example of the new status quo in Queen’s Park, no response. After this exchange I’m not even sure if the Premier and his Cabinet know what's going on regarding the Federal government considering the expansion of isolation/quarantine facilities from coast to coast,” wrote Hillier in an email sent out Thursday.

    “The expansion of isolation/quarantine camps in Canada is something of concern and the Ontario government must know about it, so why won't they tell the people of Ontario?”
    The Government of Canada (GoC) is currently soliciting feedback and information from industry service providers for additional “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” which if built, could be used for “other requirements” besides only for COVID-19 imposed quarantines.

    The solicitation for feedback is listed on the GoC’s Buyandsell.gc.ca website as a tender notice Letter of Interest (LOI) and Request for Information (RFI) for “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites.”

    The RFI and LOI lists as an end-user for the services as the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), with Public Works and Government Services Canada listed as the entity looking to procure the “isolation sites.” A closing date of October 19 listed.

    According to PHAC, the current sites “are being used to address the requirements for international travelers not having a suitable place to isolate.”

    The “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” RFI states that the use of the DSQ’s could be “temporarily discontinued until needed again by the Government of Canada,” but also might be used for “other requirements” in expectation of a “possible continued need for quarantine sites over the next 1 to 2 years given the COVID 19 pandemic.”

    The RFI states that the PHAC is currently managing a total of 11 sites nationwide that are designated as “quarantine sites (DQS)” for the COVID-19 fourteen-day quarantine, which can “lodge up to 1600 travellers.”

    These are in Calgary, Vancouver, Kelowna, Winnipeg, Regina, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, Fredericton, St. John’s (Newfoundland), and Whitehorse.

    The GoC’s Buyandsell.gc.ca website lists every province and territory in Canada as needed as a potential region for delivery of “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites.”

    The GoC states that the objective of the RFI “for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites” is to engage “a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response.”
    “The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward,” states the RFI.
    In March, the GoC began to add to their procurement website for new government contracts, tenders to supply “goods and services in support of Canada’s response to COVID-19.”

    The GoC says it “needs products and services in support of Canada’s response to COVID-19” and has been “exploring all options for securing the equipment and supplies needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic.”

    Regarding the “Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” the tender notice notes that the RFI is not “a bid solicitation” and “will not result in the award of any contract.”

    The GoC webpage states that the “RFI is simply intended to solicit feedback from industry with respect to the matters described in this RFI.”

    “PHAC is considering having a third party service provider provide and manage the existing sites and all of the related services on its behalf. PHAC may also consider expanding its site footprint to other locations provided in Annex C, attached,” reads part c of the background of the RFI.

    Annex C lists as potential new sites under consideration Saskatoon, Windsor, Niagara, Ottawa, Winnipeg/Thunder Bay, Quebec City, Charlottetown, Iqaluit, and Yellowknife.

    LifeSiteNews reached out to Toronto Constitutional lawyer, Rocco Galati to ask him about the GoC’s RFI for “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites.”

    Galati told LifeSiteNews that “straight out of the gate” he predicted “in one twitter paragraph” what was to come because of COVID-19.

    Galati referred LifeSiteNews to a March 17, 2020 tweet he wrote shortly after the Ontario provincial government enacted COVID-19 emergency orders.
    “Covid19 frenzy. A waltz in the global totalitarian tip-toe to new world order. Parliament closures, Court shutdowns, soldiers out. Banking/Corporate bailouts. Facts/science do not add up. Death toll, elderly and immunocompromised victims, marginally no diff than any other flus,” wrote Galati on March 17 on his Twitter page.
    The GoC’s Buyandsell.gc.ca website also lists a September 15 Request for Proposal (RFP) from the Department of National Defence (DND) for the Riot Control Agent “Tear Gas.”

    The “Tear Gas” RFP lists a total of 36,000 canisters required by the DND which the winning contractor is to have shipped to the Canadian Forces Ammunition Depot (CFAD) in Dundurn, Saskatchewan, by March 31, 2021.

    While the use of Tear Gas as a crowd control method is not new in Canada, the “Tear Gas” RFP caught the attention of Galati, who speculated on social media why such a large order is needed for the spring of 2021.
    “Tear Gas Order - Riot control - Govt of Canada - Due by March 31,” wrote Galati on Twitter, posting a link to the Buyandsell.gc.ca website “Tear gas” RFP.

    “Kind of makes you wonder what else they have planned for the spring.”
    The Chemical Weapons Convention bans signatory countries, which Canada is one of, from using “riot control agents as a method of warfare,” but does offer exemptions for “domestic riot control purposes,” by law enforcement.

    Tear gas has been used in Canada, as well as in the U.S., in recent months to dispel crowds of protestors.

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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    My prediction for the election, the only correct prediction.

    Someone will win.
    Someone will lose.

    Some people will rejoice, other will be sad.
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    Quote Posted by Geophyz (here)
    My prediction for the election, the only correct prediction.

    Someone will win.
    Someone will lose.

    Some people will rejoice, others will be sad.
    While I understand what you are getting at and you are certainly correct that some will rejoice and others will be sad I think a more likely scenario will be:

    The winner may not win
    The loser may not lose
    The election may not be decided by the people it most likely will be decided by a court.
    More people will be outraged rather than sad
    Civil unrest regardless of who wins will be imminent.


    The media has done such an outstanding job giving birth to so much hate and emotions are running so high that some form of rioting is probably inevitable. If Trump wins the rioting will be immediate and ongoing simply because the media has been energetically stoking the fires for several years. If Biden wins it will have to be processed for a bit but there will be unrest.
    I sincerely hope I am wrong, only time will tell.

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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    If Trump wins there will be civil war, and another four years of hampering the efforts of the leader of the free world.

    If Biden wins there will be unrest, but no rioting. It might lead to succession of some republican states. Then Kamala will be sworn in as Biden is found mentally unfit for office - and the 25th amendment will be invoked.

    Meanwhile the rest of the world will wrestle with the scary notion that the land of the free is anything but.

    The US dollar hegemony will collapse as a result and a world currency will be adopted, leaning heavily in favor of the chineese yuan.

    No one will talk of being free anymore. No one will believe a word the authorities say anymore. The world will turn cynical and in its cynicism it will turn to China for guidance and to the UN model of governance for the future.

    Hope I'm wrong, but it does not look good for our world.
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    Three-quarters of Americans concerned about post-election violence: poll

    The poll found that just 23 percent are 'very confident' about a peaceful transfer of power.



    Three-quarters of Americans are concerned about the possibility of violence on and after Election Day, according to a new poll that shows the number of concerned Americans has increased significantly since 2016.


    The USA Today/Suffolk University Poll finds that three in four voters are concerned about the possibility of violence on Election Day and afterward, while only one in four say they are “very confident” that there will be a peaceful transfer of power if Joe Biden beats President Trump on Tuesday.

    STATES MULL DEPLOYING NATIONAL GUARD AMID WORRIES ABOUT ELECTION DAY UNREST

    Only 22 percent of those polled expressed little or no concern about violence, while more than a third describe themselves as “very concerned.”

    According to USA Today, this is an increase from October 2016, when 47% had little or no concern about such violence. Meanwhile, in 2016, 40% of Americans were “very confident” about a peaceful transfer of power -- now that is just 23%.

    At this point in 2016, 40% of Americans were "very confident" about a peaceful transfer of power. Now just 23% are, according to the poll -- and nearly 4 in 10 have little confidence that will happen.

    A number of states are considering deploying the National Guard over fears of unrest.

    In key battleground states such as the Rust Belt's Wisconsin and the Sun Belt's Arizona, governors have already announced they could or would activate the National Guard to help with security.

    Wisconsin Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said Thursday that he would deploy around 400 members to compensate for poll worker shortages.

    That same day, Arizona Republican Gov. Doug Ducey told ABC 15 he would not "hesitate" to send out the Guard should there be civil unrest.

    Following the police shooting of Walter Wallace Jr., on Friday, Philadelphia Democratic Mayor Jim Kenney requested that the Pennsylvania National Guard help with the "current situation and election preparation.”

    The USA Today/Suffolk University Poll was of 1,000 likely voters by landline and cellphone between Oct. 23 to 27 and has a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points.

    Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thr...-violence-poll

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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    The USA Today/Suffolk University Poll was of 1,000 likely voters by landline and cellphone between Oct. 23 to 27 and has a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points.

    Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thr...-violence-poll


    I am sure that in some cities in the US there will be unrest no matter who wins the election. But I don't think this poll contacted enough people to actually report that 75% of Americans are concerned.

    It is going to be interesting to watch. I am hoping for a peaceful transfer of power. I am hoping that Americans will realize violence will not change the election results even if they are won by trickery.
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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    The "polls" and the images that the MSM promotes appear to directly point to the conditions they want to create.
    (Which came first, the chicken or the egg?)
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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    The "polls" and the images that the MSM promotes appear to directly point to the conditions they want to create.
    (Which came first, the chicken or the egg?)
    It could easily be confused as a very "technical" version of ritual magic. And it seems like it used to work (9/11 and all the other predictively programmed events we've been through) but this time it's rushed and there's no subtly so they are trying to force the pattern.
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    Default Re: What is the Likely Outcome after the 2020 US Election?

    I had a hunch since yesterday that the start of the covid is linked with the American elections. The authors of this plandemia have been organizing everything since the year before the election, when Trump was high in the polls. How is it possible not to have thought about it earlier ??? In France Macron launched a second confinement since Friday, it is the anger of many companies on the verge of bankruptcy. Because what worries Macron is not to save the economy of France, it is to block Trump and I have just understood this after the announcement of our president. Because we are in bad shape to get out of the world dictatorship if Biden becomes president, is that right ???


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    DC protesters organized via Zoom for months, thousands expected outside White House on Election Day

    Groups led by Black Lives Matter and Shutdown DC have been holding training sessions for demonstrators




    A collection of groups led by Black Lives Matter and Shutdown DC reportedly has been holding training sessions for demonstrators to protest on Election Day -- and apparently, they’re planning a large-scale event across the street from the White House expected to draw thousands.

    Several leaked documents and Zoom call recordings described a loose but coordinated network of activists seeking to mobilize around the country, especially if Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden loses or if President Trump contests the election results. The materials purportedly showed plans to shut down federal buildings, including the White House, and to meet members of Congress at public transportation portals when they’re scheduled to reconvene in Washington after the election.

    The apparent goal: to continue the civil unrest from Election Day until at least later this week -- and potentially until the presidential inauguration in January.

    Fox News could not independently confirm the legitimacy of the recordings and documents with local and federal law enforcement. DC Metro Police Department did not immediately return a Fox News request for comment.

    Responding to Fox News, the FBI said its standard practice is to neither confirm nor deny an investigation. The agency did say it has been working well in advance of Nov. 3 with federal, state and local partners to “gather and analyze intelligence to determine whether individuals might be motivated to take violent action for any reason.”

    FBI headquarters is focusing on providing a “centralized location for assessing election-related threats, tracking status reports and significant complaints from FBI field offices, monitoring for indicators of a coordinated nationwide effort to disrupt the election process, providing guidance to FBI field offices, and coordinating an FBI response to any election-related incident.”

    FBI field offices are standing up election command posts to coordinate with headquarters and local and state partners to streamline communication and ensure the safety of elections and the public, the agency said in a statement.

    According to the Shutdown DC website, thousands of people are planning to “start this next phase of the election cycle in the streets” by gathering at Black Lives Matter Plaza by 4 p.m. Tuesday. Large screens will be set up to stream election results as crowds are entertained by GoGo bands, salsa dancers, artists and cultural workers, according to the site.

    “Votes will still be coming in, so this will (probably) not be the time we need to create disruption to stop a coup - yet. But we’ll be in a good place to respond to whatever might happen,” the website claimed. “This has been a really long and dark era so we’re going to be together to process our feelings of hope, anger, fear, and exhaustion as a community.”

    A recording purportedly of one training session hosted over Zoom by the “Sunrise Movement” featured Lisa Fithian, who has been described by Mother Jones “as the nation's best-known protest consultant.”

    In the video, Fithian showed a target map displaying all the police stations, key government buildings, media outlets and buildings occupied by “Trump boosters” in the DC area. She discussed “what would it take to surround the White House.”

    “We’re facing an administration and a potential coup and a potential insurrection,” Fithian said. “Is there going to be a war? Are people gonna get killed? Like is that on anybody else’s mind? I’m guessing it is. We’re going to see potential fighting all over the country or in some hotspots, and we’ve already seen that, so how do we work together across the country to help support each other no matter where we are and to maximize our impact by doing similar things on similar days at similar times?”

    'NO CLIMB' FENCE TO BE INSTALLED AROUND WHITE HOUSE, SOURCE SAYS

    Fithian said demonstrators willing to break windows on government buildings should go a step farther and get inside. She told those on the call, “We have to be willing to put our bodies on the line and take on some discomfort and sacrifice risk in order to change things.”

    To read the rest of the story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/election-...ls-shutdown-dc

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    The base rate in the UK is currently 0.1%

    It, if we believe the mainstream news is to go -% on November 5th.

    A negative base rate could have a catastrophic effect on a very large amount (if not all) banks.
    Not to mention the impact on businesses - as the plandemic is creating millions of unemployed people - forcing many others to work online from home.

    It will also have a catastrophic effect on many consumer/individual's savings on deposit and their ability to earn income.

    Is this the realisation and transition into a cashless society and moving into a cashless crypto digital currency once n for all - or a step back to silver/gold backed cash and a way of restricting eliminating all these fiat inflated balance sheets of major financial institutions?

    One thing for sure, we only 2 days to finding out how the major institutions are going to cope with this and we'll have to wait and see what the ripple effect is going to have on every day living.

    I think we've been distracted by the catalysing cover story of plandemic to misdirect us to what's really coming - financial slavery - or at least a damn good attempt at doing so to us all.

    Footnote added:

    "Mastercard President Michael Miebach said the payments processor’s massive trove of cryptocurrency patents will give it an edge once central bank digital currencies (CBDC) debut."

    https://www.coindesk.com/mastercard-...gital-currency
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    Saw a lot of people with helmets dressed in all black but with "medic" on their shirt and a a lot of people dressed in all black with a tent and generator set up, but the tent was closed... not sure on that..

    Saw 1 guy with a baseball bat in his backpack, I think dc will get crazy toward the end of the week, maybe ill go back Friday

    From what I saw, violence is being prepared for.

    There were groups of 10-15 cops all over

    But I feel I was at the "set up" phase still? Left at 5pm
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    Not a fan of the Marxist ideology among its contributors, but I do find some excellent scholarly analyses on the website Counterpunch from time to time. They're quite good when it comes to criticizing the Deep State military empire, something garden variety liberals constantly drop the ball on. If even 25% of what is laid out in this article is true, the next couple months are going to be BAD.

    The Battle Will Come After the Voting is Over

    Quote NOVEMBER 3, 2020
    The Battle Will Come After the Voting is Over
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    The Trump Campaign will try to disqualify as many mail-in ballots as possible. Trump has personally implied through his public statements that armed civilians should monitor polling stations. Armed militias have already made statements that they will not allow the Democrats to steal the election from Trump. The public has no way of knowing the full scale of these efforts. But their intent is clearly to discourage people of color and other members of the Democrats’ base from voting.

    Since a number of key states will not reach a final tally of mail-in ballots until the end of the week. Trump may have a majority of the popular vote that’s been counted on election night — something known as the “red mirage.” Most mail-in votes will be added later in the week. Trump will say they are fraudulent and that counting them would be unlawful.

    This situation drives Trump to say that the Supreme Court will decide the election. His strategy after Election Day will rely on (1) invalidating as many mail-in ballots as possible; (2) blocking enough states from certifying their electors that the election is thrown into the House of Representatives; and (3) asking the Supreme Court to rule on which slates of electors must be accepted.

    If no candidate receives “a majority of the Whole number of Electors appointed” — as specified by the 12th Amendment — the House will vote on Jan. 6 among the top three candidates (probably Trump, Biden, and Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen). Each state delegation will get one vote (not one per representative). This one-state-one-vote rule is another advantage granted to rural states, in addition to those states having extra weight in the Electoral College.

    At the present time, Republicans hold a majority of House delegations in 26 states. Democrats hold a majority of delegations in only 22 states, and two other states have tied delegations. If that is still true when the new House members meet on Jan. 6, the winner would be Donald Trump, 26–22, with 2 states tied and not counted.

    If Biden earns a majority of electors based on each state’s popular vote, Trump’s strategy will be to hold up enough state counts in court so that a few states are barred from certifying any electors by Dec. 14, when the Electoral College convenes in state capitals.

    For the sake of this discussion, let’s say Trump on Dec. 14 received 268 electoral votes while Biden received only 250. (Imagine that a state, like Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes was prevented by a court from appointing any electors for Biden.) Trump’s 268 electors would be fewer than 270 — an absolute majority of 538 — but his 268 would be 51.7% of the 518 electors who managed to be appointed by Dec. 14.

    The Supreme Court would decide. Does “a majority of the Whole number of Electors appointed” mean the number who were legally appointed by Dec. 14 or does it mean the number who could have been appointed?With Amy Coney Barrett on the court, the conservative majority could vote 6–3 that the phrase means the number who were legally appointed by Dec. 14. Of course, they would justify their decision saying that they took the wording of the constitution literally, i.e. they were not acting as activist judges. Trump would win the Electoral College, 268–250 or 51.7%. Even if Chief Justice John Roberts joined the liberals to make the decision only 5–4, Trump would win.

    The 26 House delegations that have a majority of Republican representatives would vote on Jan. 6 to follow the Supreme Court’s ruling. Trump would be re-elected, no matter how small his popular vote was.

    The voting on Jan. 6 will involve the newly elected members of Congress, not the old lame-duck members. Could Democrats flip enough US House seats on Nov. 3 to control 26 state delegations on Jan. 6?

    The answer is almost certainly, “No.”

    There are currently only four US states that could change from a US House delegation that is Republican-majority or tied to a delegation that is Democratic-majority or tied (assuming one seat in each state flips from R to D). Pennsylvania and Michigan currently have tied delegations. Floridahas a one-seat majority for the Republicans, and Wisconsin has a two-seat Republican majority:

    • Pennsylvania’s delegation is currently tied, with 9 R’s and 9 D’s. As of Oct. 21, the nonpartisan Cook Political Report rates only one seat in Pennsylvania as a toss-up: Rep. Scott Perry’s seat in Congressional District 10.

    • Michigan’s delegation is currently tied, with 7 R’s and 7 D’s. Cook rates only one seat in Michigan as a toss-up: Rep. Justin Amash’s seat in CD 3. (Note: Amash switched from Republican to Libertarian earlier this year, but he is not running for re-election. The seat has been held by a Republican, including Amash, for more than a decade.)

    • Florida’s delegation is currently majority-Republican, 14 R’s and 13 D’s. Cook does not rate any seats in Florida as toss-ups. Therefore, none of the seats are likely to change parties.

    • Wisconsin’s delegation is currently majority-Republican, 5 R’s and 3 D’s. Cook does not rate any seats in Wisconsin as toss-ups. Therefore, none of the seats are likely to change parties.

    Even if the D’s somehow flipped one seat in three delegations — Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida — 25 states would then vote for Trump/Pence and 25 would vote for Biden/Harris. This would be a tie, producing no winner.

    In that case, the Senate would cast one vote per senator (not per state) for the position of vice president. If Republicans are still a majority of senators on Jan. 6, the Senate would vote for Trump to become vice president. But Trump would immediately become president, because the office of the presidency would be vacant, due to the House’s tie vote. However, if the Senate did flip over to a 51–49 Democratic majority after the election — which would require a net gain of four seats — the new senators would be voting, and Biden would win.

    As if all of this weren’t already too mind-boggling, the president of the Senate on Jan. 6 will still be Mike Pence, since his term doesn’t expire until Jan. 20. This provides Trump an opportunity to have his vice-president determine how the Senate rules will determine the electors for selecting the next vice-president.

    Should Republicans retain control of the Senate, the Democratic senators could conceivably boycott the Senate vote, thereby depriving the body of the two-thirds quorum that is required by the 12th Amendment. If the House were tied, and the Senate had no quorum, neither the House nor the Senate would legally have made any decision. Most likely the Republican Senators would meet and vote anyway, claiming victory. The Supreme Court could then rule on which candidate had enough electoral votes to win.

    Even if Biden had clearly won enough electoral votes after the November election, Trump’s attorneys are prepared to go nuclear with one last tactic. Before the House can formally vote to accept the Electoral College votes in January, Republican-controlled legislatures could convene November special sessions in states where he lost the popular vote. The R legislators could declare that there was “massive fraud” in a state’s mail-in ballots — for example, millions were printed and mailed by Ukraine — and appoint the legislature’s own slate of Trump electors. This is arguably permitted under the US Constitution, which provides that electors shall be appointed “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” Changing the manner of elector selection after the votes have been counted might violate existing state laws, but guess who would decide on this — the Supreme Court.

    Trump might lose the popular vote in five states rated “toss-up” by 270toWin’s 2020 Consensus that happen to have Republican legislatures and governors. They are Florida (29 electoral votes), Ohio (18), Georgia(16),Arizona (11), and Iowa (6). If all five legislatures acted, a total of 80 electoral votes would shift from Biden to Trump. That would be a highly controversial move. It would also require a lot of coordination among state Republican leaders. Nevertheless, it is 2020, and many unbelievable things have happened already.

    Four other toss-up states have R-majority legislatures but Democratic governors. They are Pennsylvania (20), Michigan (16), North Carolina(15), and Wisconsin (10). Under the US Code (3 USC §5), governors may submit their own slate of electors by Dec. 8, 2020, if electors in a state are contested. A Democratic governor’s slate would compete with a Republican legislature’s slate when the US House votes on Jan. 6 whether to accept each state’s electors.

    If Republican legislatures “went rogue” and appointed their own electors, could states with Democratic legislatures and governors play “tit-for-tate, replacing Trump electors with Biden electors? Not really, because the Democrats only control Maine that has both a Democratic controlled legislature and a Democratic governor.

    The Supreme Court would decide which slates were the legitimate ones. The conservative majority of the court could side with the legislatures’ slates. The court could also bar the US House from considering competing slates that were based on the popular vote. Trump would win a majority of electors.

    With the slew of attorneys that are now working for the Trump Campaign and the Republican National Committee, the above possibilities are serious legal mechanisms that Republicans may fully intend to use. On the other hand, neither strategy would work if Biden won such a huge majority in the Electoral College that even switching the electors of several states from D to R would not get Trump re-elected.

    For the good of the nation, the path to a peaceful and normal transition to a new presidency would best be secured by a Biden landslide. That would not be necessary, if Donald Trump had not repeatedly claimed that fraud and cheating were the only possible reasons why he would lose.

    Hold on tight for the battle that will begin on Nov. 4.

    “Indeed, you won the elections, but I won the count.” — Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza (1896–1956)

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    Tell Mr Trump senior that the Bodhgaya ET origins of humanity entity expects compensation of $ 100 000 netto on bank account till midnight for that folded NSA operation in South America (Uruguay) and damage to most personal equipment and property ( including MacBook, iPad Air, fully equipped apartment in Prague, book and arts collection, personal belongings and body harm to the entity/witness).

    It’s fundamentally wrong to misuse people’s trust and safety especially while they are not capable of manual labour, have no means to trade or argue and are otherwise vulnerable.

    Also do not forget that full video report is already available with Miles Johnston and the Bases(16) series.

    It’s not a revenge or ransom , a real time compensation of values damaged by the agency on life and property of an individual,
    not an organization, agency or a group.


    It means nothing to him and takes a click on his phone.

    For using my mind, speech and body for his own operation incentives, demanding cooperation under life threat etc.

    Win or lose


    🙏

    I just want to be able to eat my vitamins and brush my teeth and work on my project as usually, nothing extraordinary, for the benefit of all living beings.
    Activity of study and research that has never harmed anyone.

    I’m not your foe or a terrorist.

    I’ve heard from your operatives though that mass depopulation agenda is “on plan” for humanity as well as safety escape routes for the more empowered.

    We live in one world today, a world whose people keep asking the same questions and communicate across cultural barriers. Indeed we are taking bigger step now to the world of future, together with our children and we can’t accept being lied to and played “old dirty games”.
    We are meant to be your hope, not your enemy.

    No matter how many years will careless people remain in the Office, immune to human suffering, there will be also violence in the Nation of many colours.

    There will be crimes and army in the streets.


    It’s important to take step back now and give a way to Peace and Freedom


    🙏🦢🙏
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    What I find very odd is Pennsylvania (Nov 4 @ 11:00pm) only 89% ballots counted, What's the hold up? Larger populated states do his with no issues. Hmmm. Almost like a pause for negotiations.
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