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    As the article title says, "Trump tells federal agencies to end trainings on "white privilege" and "critical race theory".

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/91005...cal-race-theor

    He has threatened to defund them if they don't. It's a brazen move by Trump, and as you might have guessed, I love it! In a sense, he's "canceling" the cancelers. A beautiful irony.

    Trump calls critical race theory "a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue." And I couldn't agree more.

    As I was saying in another thread, most people don't know what critical race theory is, and from the outside it may appear that Trump is some rampaging racist that's bullying these "equity" programs out of existence.

    So it's important to know what it is. Critical race theory is very complex. Here's an article by the foremost authority on this stuff - James Lindsay - if you're interested: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/re...ealing-racism/

    For those that don't want to plod thru it, here are some cliff notes that Lindsay provides. His bullet point summary:

    Critical Race Theory...

    1) believes racism is present in every aspect of life, every relationship, and every interaction. and therefore has its advocates look for it everywhere.

    2) relies upon "interest convergence" (white people only give black people opportunities and freedoms when it is also in their own interests) and therefore doesn't trust any attempt to make racism better.

    3) is against free societies and wants to dismantle them and replace them with something its advocates control.

    4) only treats race as socially constructed groups, so there are no individuals in critical race theory.

    5) believes science, evidence, and reason are a "white" way of knowing and that storytelling and lived experience are a "black alternative", which hurts everyone, especially black people

    6) rejects all potential alternatives, like colorblindness, as forms of racism, making itself the only allowable game in town (which makes it totalitarian)

    7) acts like anyone who disagrees with it must do so for racist and white supremacist reasons, even if those people are black (more totalitarianism)

    8) it can never be satisfied, so it becomes a kind of activist black hole that threatens to destroy everything that it is introduced to.
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    What a black hole indeed. Haven't people of colour suffered enough? This crap makes everything ten times worse for them.

    My Critical Race Theory would read as my mother taught me:

    1) Skin is only skin deep. It's what's inside that counts.

    THE END

    A racist – sees skin colour and judges on skin colour
    An anti-racist – sees skin colour and judges on skin colour
    Not a racist – sees no skin colour
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    Hopefully the order to end trainings on "White Privilege" and "Critical Race Theory" within the federal agencies will also apply to the Military, where such toxic indoctrination appears to have been extremely prevalent during the past several years, thanks mostly, some say, to the efforts of the previous administration.

    Trump, in the meantime, while still loving the Military and having greatly invested into it, is at least shaming those who promulgate and seek to profit from the War Is Peace Cult.


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    This should probably go here, being tangentially related. Extreme ideologies and disinformation is causing real mental illness. I don't like the word 'Funniest' in this video's title, because it isn't funny. It's quite disturbing. Media manipulation has turned this poor girl's mind to mush.



    Sooner or later, she's going to need serious help, along with many like her. I would suggest 2 of these a day for 20 days, or until symptoms pass.

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    I see color, I see height , I see weight, I see young, I see old, I see everything. I just dont make it mean anything.

    this entire idea of trying to deny what you see is insane and infantile. you see what you see, red ball, blue ball, black car white car, cat from dog and on and on

    but it doesnt mean anything. you dont need to add meaning to it! thats what you need to get. denial of reality is not the answer.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I see color, I see height , I see weight, I see young, I see old, I see everything. I just dont make it mean anything.

    this entire idea of trying to deny what you see is insane and infantile. you see what you see, red ball, blue ball, black car white car, cat from dog and on and on

    but it doesnt mean anything. you dont need to add meaning to it! thats what you need to get. denial of reality is not the answer.


    Doug, that's just your white fragility speaking

    That's what the critical race theorists would tell you.

    Point #8 explains that this cult will never be satisfied. For example, if you claim to not see color at all, you're either lying or not displaying the proper respect for someone's racial background. But if you do see color, you're racist, regardless of how eloquently and sincerely you justify how you process that. They want you stand up for them and speak up against racial injustice("silence is violence!"), but the moment you stand up and speak they want you to sit down and shut up. They want you to be an ally, but don't be too good of an ally, because then you'll be a "white savior". And so on...

    And by the way, I'm not singling out black people here; I'm talking about the entire woke mob, many of whom are white. The most popular perpetrator of this sh!t is a white lady actually, Robin D'Angelo.
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    As the article title says, "Trump tells federal agencies to end trainings on "white privilege" and "critical race theory".

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/91005...cal-race-theor

    He has threatened to defund them if they don't. It's a brazen move by Trump, and as you might have guessed, I love it! In a sense, he's "canceling" the cancelers. A beautiful irony.

    Trump calls critical race theory "a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue." And I couldn't agree more.

    As I was saying in another thread, most people don't know what critical race theory is, and from the outside it may appear that Trump is some rampaging racist that's bullying these "equity" programs out of existence.

    So it's important to know what it is. Critical race theory is very complex. Here's an article by the foremost authority on this stuff - James Lindsay - if you're interested: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/re...ealing-racism/

    For those that don't want to plod thru it, here are some cliff notes that Lindsay provides. His bullet point summary:

    Critical Race Theory...

    1) believes racism is present in every aspect of life, every relationship, and every interaction. and therefore has its advocates look for it everywhere.

    2) relies upon "interest convergence" (white people only give black people opportunities and freedoms when it is also in their own interests) and therefore doesn't trust any attempt to make racism better.

    3) is against free societies and wants to dismantle them and replace them with something its advocates control.

    4) only treats race as socially constructed groups, so there are no individuals in critical race theory.

    5) believes science, evidence, and reason are a "white" way of knowing and that storytelling and lived experience are a "black alternative", which hurts everyone, especially black people

    6) rejects all potential alternatives, like colorblindness, as forms of racism, making itself the only allowable game in town (which makes it totalitarian)

    7) acts like anyone who disagrees with it must do so for racist and white supremacist reasons, even if those people are black (more totalitarianism)

    8) it can never be satisfied, so it becomes a kind of activist black hole that threatens to destroy everything that it is introduced to.
    I’ve just read this post and the bullet points, which are taken from the article. I started to read the article and will finish it later. But, just from reading the bullet points, I’m struck by the logical fallacies presented by Critical Race Theory. Not the least of which are contradiction and paradox.

    For instance, if the proponents of CRT are correct, and in my view they are not, then they are themselves racist. By definition they have to be. But, they seek to control racism by controlling everyone. How convenient for them. They want to be the Uber-racist, manipulating the levers of racism-control. While seemingly denouncing the control stemming and flowing from “racism”, they would place themselves in control—which perforce would include control over “racism.”

    Further, CRT is so very broad and all encompassing that, as a theory, it says nothing, because it seeks to say everything. Everything about racism, as defined and recognized by the proponents of CRT. This is a nefarious “glittering generality”; an “atrocious generality”, if you will.

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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    This should probably go here, being tangentially related. Extreme ideologies and disinformation is causing real mental illness. I don't like the word 'Funniest' in this video's title, because it isn't funny. It's quite disturbing. Media manipulation has turned this poor girl's mind to mush.



    Sooner or later, she's going to need serious help, along with many like her. I would suggest 2 of these a day for 20 days, or until symptoms pass.

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    I’m on the fence regarding whether she is seriously and genuinely suffering from heightened emotional and psychological distress, or whether she has found her shtick or niche in the form of another way to attack Trump supporters and MAGA, and to push the “woke” agenda.

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    Hi Satori

    re logical fallacies: critical race theorists don't believe in logic. That's just another symptom of "whiteness" (see bullet point 5)

    BUT...they will happily apply it when it suits them.

    You're 100% spot on about everything, of course, which is what makes this critical race stuff so hard to explain. I was actually trying to explain it to a friend today, and he kept interrupting me to say "But that doesn't make sense..", and I kept replying, "I know, they don't necessarily want it to make sense." And then he would say, "But that doesn't make sense either." And I would say, "I know! That's the point!" It was like something out of Catch-22.

    To explain it or grasp it you actually have to resign yourself to it's insanity for a few mins.
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    Star, that video is chilling.

    A part of me did think it was funny tho My inner asshole enjoyed this a little; her tears were an absolute tonic, and there was a small voice in my head that kept saying "watch it again dude!"

    Having said that, it was also quite disturbing. That uncontrolled, distorted emotion makes my nerves all jangly. It's as if my very soul is disturbed by it as well. She's fractured in so many ways that I wouldn't even know where she should begin to put the pieces back together. I'm glad I'm not her therapist, that's all I can say. I do wish her well, but sheesh...she's in deep man.
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    mike and friends . its all so illogical , all so absurd and beyond reasoning etc, that it must be cosmic.

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    Mike, you’d appreciate Gregory Gutfeld’s take on Trump getting rid of critical race theory. It's similar to your OP. I added it because he’s a comedian, as well as a television producer, commentator, author, and editor.

    He’s one of the 5 on The Five @ Fox News. Sorry if that last part triggers some. Greg speaks for the first minute and a half. The rest is worth a listen too. (5:36 minutes)


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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Star, that video is chilling.

    She's fractured in so many ways that I wouldn't even know where she should begin to put the pieces back together. I'm glad I'm not her therapist, that's all I can say. I do wish her well, but sheesh...she's in deep man.
    Problem with that is there are thousands of mental health therapists trained in creating and perpetuating this victimhood and hysteria.  They've literally stolen a generation of youth and transformed them into the perfect minions for this propaganda.

    I've been researching this for a few years now and there's loads of data proving it; which one day I will hopefully get time to collate to start a "stolen generation" thread.   But here's a link warning about it.  And though this relates to Australia similar programs are run in other countries.

    Basically the mental health industry have infiltrated teenagers, (millenials onwards),  convincing them their puberty blues transition is because their parents are toxic and they are victims who suffer with overwhelming anxiety, depression, etc.  They are than treated with remedies that trap them into sustaining, in a majority of cases, false victimhood and trauma rather than overcoming it.

    Quote https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/b...y-intervention

    Excerpt: McGorry's goal is certainly great. But its current achievement is simply impossible and Australia's plans are patently premature. Early intervention to prevent psychosis requires first that there be an accurate tool to identify who will later become psychotic and who will not. Unfortunately, no such accurate tool exists. The false positive rate in selecting prepsychosis is at least about 60-70% in the very best of hands and may be as high as 90% in general practice. That's right, folks, nine misidentified non patients for one accurately identified truly prepsychotic patient. Those are totally unacceptable odds.

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    Thanks Paula

    Great video there. Fox news might have caused me to groan a few years ago but it appears they're the only ones making sense at the moment. I continue to be impressed by their contributors.

    Strange, since I've always thought of myself as a liberal mostly. I'm pro-choice for women; I'm pro gay marriage; I don't really like guns too much. I haven't attended mass in over a decade. Until maybe 3 or 4 months ago, I'd never listened - except in passing - to any conservative talk radio or television hosts..and when I did I disliked them. I've watched a few Tucker Carlson Youtube videos recently, and saw my first Glenn Beck show ever, a couple days ago. But I've never sat in front of a tv and watched the news. Ever. I've also never voted. And if I was forced to vote during the last election, it would not have been for Trump.

    But here, on this forum, I'm the raging conservative it seems! I like to think of myself as a rationalist, first and foremost, and Trump and Fox news are the only ones making much sense at the moment - at least in the mainstream. So bring on the great Fox news clips if ya find anymore

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    Mike I agree . Im a life long liberal voting dem. This is what I try to explain to people.

    But today, I would'nt consider this insane dem party for all the covid in china .

    trump, a total outsider has gotten so much done in 4 years , and NO NEW WAR.

    He's ruining their game

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Thanks PaulaSo bring on the great Fox news clips if ya find anymore
    Some of my favorites at Fox News are Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, The Five team, Judge Jeanine, Trey Gowdy, Steve Hilton, sometimes Sean Hannity, and several more. I enjoy the Fox News clips with Kayleigh McEnany, the White House press secretary. She's also an author, political commentator and lawyer. And wow!, grace under fire she is.

    Fox Business is another. Maria Bartiromo has been around a while. She’s not afraid to ask the tough questions. A few of her guests are Attorney General William Barr, Superior Court Judge Andrew Napolitano, and The Trump guy.

    The news segments are about 3-10 minutes.

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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    This should probably go here, being tangentially related. Extreme ideologies and disinformation is causing real mental illness. I don't like the word 'Funniest' in this video's title, because it isn't funny. It's quite disturbing. Media manipulation has turned this poor girl's mind to mush.



    Sooner or later, she's going to need serious help, along with many like her. I would suggest 2 of these a day for 20 days, or until symptoms pass.

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    You're right. This isn't funny at all. This this young woman's worldview is downright disturbing.

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    I'm trying to stop buying into the whole Right vs Left game, and though I used to consider myself a Progressive, if I had to choose, I would choose Conservative nowadays.
    I realized about halfway through Obama's Adminstration that the DNC was not at all what it was in JFK's day, and that's when I began to be apolitical.
    But the DNC has lost its mind now and though there is plenty wrong with some of Trump's policies, I never would have voted for HRC.
    Similarly, nowadays if I have to watch mainsteam news, FOX is definitely the one I would choose.
    Surreal is the best word I can come up with to describe the state of American politics today and the way it's affecting people.
    I feel like I'm living in a kind of "zombie apocalypse" most of the time now.
    On the better days, it just feels like this:

    update: A good clip of Tucker telling the truth in this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1376704 (Apparently they're allowed to do that now on FOX news!! )
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    A view inside the ‘woke’ cult of political correctness. Where white people are lectured about “not being born human“ and ‘we’re actually just demons’, supposedly.



    https://mobile.twitter.com/InayaFola...76853431140355

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