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    Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It: Agartha & Hollow Earth

    This is interesting and I cant do it justice with a resume.

    The ancient cultures throughout the world Amazonians Aborigines have talked about this.
    There have been threads where it has been mentioned but search did not reveal.
    Comments welcome.

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    There's definitely life down there, possibly intelligent, sophisticated life, humanoid too and not all human (meaning alien). Quite separate from underground bases and such, the crust of the earth is highly porous, and who knows what secrets it holds. It is 'said', and I don't know if it's true, but vast tunnels link all the continents, and the ancients (the initiated among them) could walk between Tibet, Giza, and Central America all underground.

    Neither do I dispute the possibility of Agartha; it may exist as a subterranean outpost, perhaps of Atlantean survivors, or it may exist in another dimension entirely. But talk of the earth being hollow, no I can't get there. No credible evidence suggests it's even possible. Basic planetary science for a start. The earth is no more hollow than flat.
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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Im with you Star Mariner
    Hollow no but subterranean passages a maybe.
    Interesting video though.
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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Oh is been moved to the Hoax thread.
    A well though out hoax -- I wonder if it was viewed before shifted.
    Even in a hoax there is some interesting "truth"
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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    I think this is a very interesting topic. I don't have 45 minutes for this right now, but I added it to my "watch later." There are sooo many legends of peoples moving underground, including something a bit closer to my neck of the woods... the moon eyed people of the Appalachians.

    I have lately also wondered how disclosure might involve these underground cultures, particularly since Disney released Artemis Fowl.

    And also how these peoples might be related to Atlantis and the migration of survivors after its destruction.

    So definitely looking forward to this, thanks!!!

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    Oh, now that it took me forever to get my post together, I see it's been moved to the hoax section. *sigh* Still, should be fun to watch, and regardless of the video, I think the CONCEPT is certainly worth discussing!

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    There's definitely life down there, possibly intelligent, sophisticated life, humanoid too and not all human (meaning alien). Quite separate from underground bases and such, the crust of the earth is highly porous, and who knows what secrets it holds. It is 'said', and I don't know if it's true, but vast tunnels link all the continents, and the ancients (the initiated among them) could walk between Tibet, Giza, and Central America all underground.

    Neither do I dispute the possibility of Agartha; it may exist as a subterranean outpost, perhaps of Atlantean survivors, or it may exist in another dimension entirely. But talk of the earth being hollow, no I can't get there. No credible evidence suggests it's even possible. Basic planetary science for a start. The earth is no more hollow than flat.
    Yep. There may very well be huge caverns (and ET bases, etc) in the earth's crust.

    But the crust is only 40 miles thick at the very very most. (Far less, in many places.) The earth is some 8,000 miles in diameter.

    This circle is to exactly that scale. The diameter is 400 px, and the 'crust' (the circle circumference) is 2 px. So whatever beings there may be below the earth's surface, they're hanging out in the thin red line you see here. Nowhere else.


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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    The video is well researched and gives a lot of information --legend yes -but some facts that can be researched.
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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    One thought that jumped to mind - during this covid pandemic people have been forced to remain indoors.

    It was brought forward that we needed vitamin D from being outside in the sun.

    How would a culture survive underground without the sun? Would they know what to do immediately to resolve this problem or would a virus cause havoc and destroy them?

    I do not recall this problem being addressed in any reading I have seen about people moving underground, but I admit that my investigating the underground theories to be very limited.

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Thanks Chris.
    I thought of posting the same video except she uses Corey Goode as a reference and that made me pause. This topic is really close to my heart. If I could achieve any adventure on earth it would be to discover ancient treasure, forgotten knowledge and secret passage to Shangri-La.

    I read the books by T. Lobsang Ramtha as a child and I saw the movie Lost Horizon and then read the book along with many other books about idyllic civilizations. These are always just beyond the edge of the known. Could they really exist physically? I do not know WHY NOT? The earth is a honeycomb of mystery. I have read so many accounts: UFOs that come out of ancient volcanoes, ancient connection in Peru to the Underworld inhabited by Ultra-terrestrials.

    And what about the Underground cities in Turkey, the supposed underground highway form the ancient days across Europe into Asia. This topic is endlessly fascinating.

    Caves are ubiquitous under the surface and largely unexplored.



    This is a cool video of the Son Doong Cave in Vietnam that is not fully explored.



    Nicolas Roerich sought Shamballa.



    Quote 5 APRIL, 2014 - 14:03 APRIL HOLLOWAY
    Mysteries of the Kingdom of Shambhala


    Shambhala, which is a Sanskrit word meaning “place of peace” or “place of silence”, is a mythical paradise spoken of in ancient texts, including the Kalachakra Tantra and the ancient scriptures of the Zhang Zhung culture which predated Tibetan Buddhism in western Tibet. According to legend, it is a land where only the pure of heart can live, a place where love and wisdom reigns and where people are immune to suffering, want or old age.

    Shambhala is said to be the land of a thousand names. It has been called the Forbidden Land, the Land of White Waters, Land of Radiant Spirits, Land of Living Fire, Land of the Living Gods and Land of Wonders. The Hindus call it Aryavartha (‘The Land of the Worthy Ones); the Chinese know it as Hsi Tien, the Western Paradise of Hsi Wang Mu; and to the Russian Old Believers, it is known as Belovoyde. But throughout Asia, it is best known by its Sanskrit name, Shambhala, Shamballa, or Shangri-la.

    Shambhala

    Shambhala is described as a land of paradise. Photo credit: Naughty Dog-Uncharted

    The legend of Shambhala is said to date back thousands of years, and reference to the mythical land can be found in various ancient texts. The Bön scriptures speak of a closely related land called Olmolungring. Hindu texts such as Vishnu Purana mention Shambhala as the birth place of Kalki, the final incarnation of Vishnu who will usher in a new Golden Age. The Buddhist myth of Shambhala is an adaptation of the earlier Hindu myth. However, the text in which Shambhala is first discussed extensively is the Kalachakra.

    The Kalachakra refers to a complex and advanced esoteric teaching and practice in Tibetan Buddhism. Shakyamuni Buddha is said to have taught the Kalachakra on request of King Suchandra of Shambhala.

    As with many concepts in the Kalachakra, the idea of Shambhala is said to have outer, inner, and alternative meanings. The outer meaning understands Shambhala to exist as a physical place, although only individuals with the appropriate karma can reach it and experience it as such. The inner and alternative meanings refer to more subtle understandings of what Shambhala represents in terms of one's own body and mind (inner), and during meditative practice (alternative). These two types of symbolic explanations are generally passed on orally from teacher to student.

    As the 14th Dalai Lama noted during the 1985 Kalachakra initiation in Bodhgaya, Shambhala is not an ordinary country:

    Although those with special affiliation may actually be able to go there through their karmic connection, nevertheless it is not a physical place that we can actually find. We can only say that it is a pure land, a pure land in the human realm. And unless one has the merit and the actual karmic association, one cannot actually arrive there.

    Buddhist depiction of Shambhala from Sera Monastery

    A Buddhist depiction of Shambhala from Sera Monastery (private collection). Image source.

    The Prophecy of Shambhala
    The concept of Shambhala plays an important role in Tibetan religious teachings, and has particular relevance in Tibetan mythology about the future. The Kalachakra prophesies the gradual deterioration of mankind as the ideology of materialism spreads over the earth. When the “barbarians” who follow this ideology are united under an evil king and think there is nothing left to conquer, the mists will lift to reveal the snowy mountains of Shambhala. The barbarians will attack Shambhala with a huge army equipped with terrible weapons. Then the king of Shambhala will emerge from Shambhala with a huge army to vanquish "dark forces" and usher in a worldwide Golden Age.

    Though the Kālachakra prophesies a future war, this appears in conflict with the vows of Buddhist teachings that prohibit violence. This has led some theologians to interpret the war symbolically – the Kālachakra is not advocating violence against people but rather refers to the inner battle of the religious practitioner against inner demonic tendencies.

    Shambhala’s hidden location
    Over many centuries, numerous explorers and seekers of spiritual wisdom have embarked on expeditions and quests in search of the mythical paradise of Shambhala, and while many have claimed to have been there, no one has yet provided any evidence of its existence or been able to pinpoint its physical location on a map, however most references place Shambhala in the mountainous regions of Eurasia.

    Ancient Zhang Zhung texts identify Shambhala with the Sutlej Valley in Punjab or Himachal Pradesh, India. Mongolians identify Shambhala with certain valleys of southern Siberia. In Altai folklore, Mount Belukha is believed to be the gateway to Shambhala. Modern Buddhist scholars seem to conclude that Shambhala is located in the higher reaches of the Himalayas in what is now called the Dhauladhar Mountains around Mcleodganj. Some legends say that the entrance to Shambhala is hidden inside a remote, abandoned monastery in Tibet, and guarded by beings known as the Shambhala Guardians.

    Himalayan Mountains

    According to Buddhist traditions, Shambhala is located in the Himalayan Mountains. Photo source: Wikipedia.

    For some, the fact that Shambhala has never been found has a very simple explanation – many believe that Shambhala lies on the very edge of physical reality, as a bridge connecting this world to one beyond it.

    While many disregard Shambhala as the fanciful subject of myth and legend, for others, a belief in Shambhala stirs an inner yearning to one day find this utopian kingdom.
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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    One thought that jumped to mind - during this covid pandemic people have been forced to remain indoors.

    It was brought forward that we needed vitamin D from being outside in the sun.

    How would a culture survive underground without the sun? Would they know what to do immediately to resolve this problem or would a virus cause havoc and destroy them?

    I do not recall this problem being addressed in any reading I have seen about people moving underground, but I admit that my investigating the underground theories to be very limited.
    Well, any flesh-and-blood beings living underground (including humans!) need food and energy.

    That won't come from animals or plants. Because animals and plants have exactly the same problem. There has to be some kind of food chain.

    The only beings that could survive underground for long periods would be those with high technology, to manufacture (somehow!) what they needed. (Or, even more difficult, to transport it all there without being seen, assuming they were there specifically to stay hidden.)

    The only access points would be extremely remote places: Antarctica is a possibility, maybe some of the big deserts, maybe wild country like parts of Alaska or the arctic tundra. And of course, the ocean floor. But here, we're only talking about bases within the VERY thin crust — though there's still plenty of room for them there.

    There are so many holes in this (pun intended) that it's genuinely hard to list them all.

    The whole other thing might be that there's an aspect of interdimensionality here. In that case, 'location' starts to have a very wobbly meaning. Interdimensional visitors could have their 'home' as absolutely 'anywhere' at all, even a 'location' in what we see as empty space. (The very notion of 'anywhere' as we know it wouldn't apply to them at all.)

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    There are so many holes in this (pun intended) that it's genuinely hard to list them all.
    This was moved to the Hoax Section. You know. I do not. How I long for the day when I can say for sure "I KNOW". I have had so much doubt in my mind because I have never actually tried to find the Entrance. Now I probably will not be going. Speculation about mysteries is all I have FOR SURE. Thanks for trying though Bill. I am certain your call was meant well.

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    I believe there are inner earth civilizations, but not because the earth is hollow. Dimensional shifts are required to reach them.

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    I would like to recommend this thread be renamed to simply Inner Earth Civilizations Exist, and moving it from the hoax section to Ancient Aliens, or Myth and Legend. I don't think 'hoax' qualifies for anything other than the hollow earth part.

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    How would a culture survive underground without the sun? Would they know what to do immediately to resolve this problem or would a virus cause havoc and destroy them?
    There are old stories that as recently as the early 20th century the towns surrounding Mount Shasta received strange visitors to their shops and markets - tall, pale, silent people often with long golden hair. It was assumed they came from Mount Shasta itself (inside or under it), but they would sometimes come out and mix with the local population to buy food and produce - bread, rice, vegetables and fruit, but not meat if I remember rightly.

    I know I've read that, but I can't point you to where. I am usually terrible at remembering my sources, sorry.

    Many myths surround Mount Shasta, and I believe the root of those myths is an 'inner earth' civilization, or colony. Unknown whether alien (Nordic type), or human (Atlantean). I have no reason to doubt they're still there.
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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    I found one such link that mentions the above:

    "Well, there's a couple stories from the 1940s where the Lemurians were actually seen walking into town," says Ashalyn. They were 7 feet tall, dressed in long white robes and sandals. They went to the general store to buy supplies, and paid for their purchases with chunks of gold. "The shopkeeper would take the gold, turn around and try to give them change, and the Lemurian would be gone."

    These days, no one reports eyewitness accounts of Lemurians in the flesh — but some locals believe the smooth, saucer-shaped lenticular clouds that often gather at the summit of Mount Shasta are engineered by the Lemurians to camouflage alien cargo ships docking at Telos.
    (Telos being a crystal city inside the mountain).

    https://www.npr.org/2015/06/07/41209...=1599572307639
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    I would like to recommend this thread be renamed to simply Inner Earth Civilizations Exist, and moving it from the hoax section to Ancient Aliens, or Myth and Legend. I don't think 'hoax' qualifies for anything other than the hollow earth part.
    Not a "hoax", per se. The section title is Known Hoaxes and Other Bad Information.

    The information is bad. greybeard/Chris wrote
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The video is well researched and gives a lot of information
    Chris always means well, but he doesn't know what "well researched" means and really looks like. If he did, he'd not continually post many of the things he does.

    The video simply tells stories and makes suppositions. (And it's read by someone who doesn't know the material, as she pronounces some of the historical names quite incorrectly. Not impressive for a 'documentary' video.)

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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Fair enough Bill, I haven't actually got round to watching the video just yet, but I was definitely interested in discussing and exploring inner earth or underground civilizations, and the many myths and stories surrounding this subject. It's something I believe is definitely for real.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    I would like to recommend this thread be renamed to simply Inner Earth Civilizations Exist, and moving it from the hoax section to Ancient Aliens, or Myth and Legend. I don't think 'hoax' qualifies for anything other than the hollow earth part.
    Not a "hoax", per se. The section title is Known Hoaxes and Other Bad Information.

    The information is bad. greybeard/Chris wrote
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The video is well researched and gives a lot of information
    Chris always means well, but he doesn't know what "well researched" means and really looks like. If he did, he'd not continually post many of the things he does.

    The video simply tells stories and makes suppositions. (And it's read by someone who doesn't know the material, as she pronounces some of the historical names quite incorrectly. Not impressive for a 'documentary' video.)
    Bill you could say it is well researched into legend.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    I would like to recommend this thread be renamed to simply Inner Earth Civilizations Exist, and moving it from the hoax section to Ancient Aliens, or Myth and Legend. I don't think 'hoax' qualifies for anything other than the hollow earth part.
    Not a "hoax", per se. The section title is Known Hoaxes and Other Bad Information.

    The information is bad. greybeard/Chris wrote
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The video is well researched and gives a lot of information
    Chris always means well, but he doesn't know what "well researched" means and really looks like. If he did, he'd not continually post many of the things he does.

    The video simply tells stories and makes suppositions. (And it's read by someone who doesn't know the material, as she pronounces some of the historical names quite incorrectly. Not impressive for a 'documentary' video.)
    Bill you could say it is well researched into legend.
    Best wishes
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    Yes, there are many documented myths and anecdotes. So it's researched that people have been talking about this for a long time. We know their names, what they wrote, and when they lived.

    But it's not researched as proof, of anything at all, as you misleadingly copied into the video title. There's exactly zero "proof" of any kind, and barely even any evidence worth the name.

    I'd say none at all, but (for instance) some people do think that Byrd's posthumous diary was real. I feel totally sure that was someone's fantastic (and mischievous) fiction, and nothing to do with Byrd at all, but I don't have proof of that either.

    There may very well be proof out there that the "diary" was a hoax, and I'd absolutely bet there is. But I'm not going to spend any time looking for it.
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    Part of this video is potentially credible, but as soon as she said ‘Corey Goode’ I retched and cut it off.
    However, Byrd’s accounts warrant more research, and many olde maps from sailors depict strange lands at the north pole.
    An interesting, partially scientific presentation. We now know Hitler was relocated to Argentina. So frustrating, the ludicrous versus the potentially obvious, but that’s history!
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    Default Re: "Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It": Agartha & Hollow Earth

    Bill you are splitting hairs
    Sure I copied the title fully off U tube.
    The moment anyone watches the video on u tube they will see exactly what I pasted as a title to this thread -- im not validating it just posting exactly what you will find on u tube.
    Even as light hearted entertainment its nicely put together with images etc.
    Quite a few will enjoy it without taking it too seriously.
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