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    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    The number of people infected by the Covid 19 virus who have participated in Trump's election gatherings has literally exploded.

    This makes Donald Trump the first presidential candidate who is killing his own supporters.
    Cases = deaths? A = B? Have you ever considered taking a course in logic?

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    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    The number of people infected by the Covid 19 virus who have participated in Trump's election gatherings has literally exploded.

    This makes Donald Trump the first presidential candidate who is killing his own supporters.
    Please provide data, this is is absolutely not true.
    Many counties that hosted Trump rallies had a significant increase in Covid-19 cases
    By Nadia Kounang
    October 30, 2020

    A CNN investigation of 17 Trump campaign rallies finds that 14 of the host counties - 82% of them - had an
    increased rate of new Covid-19 cases one month after the rally.

    The 17 rallies occurred between August 17 and September 26. CNN evaluated the rate of new daily cases
    per 100,000 residents at four weeks before the rally, on the rally date, and four weeks after the rally at the
    county level and at the state level.

    Of the 14 host counties that had increased infection rates, eight of the counties had declining rates of infection
    in the month before the rally. The other six counties already had increasing rates of infection in that preceding
    month.

    CNN's analysis also found that in 10 counties, the new rates of infection were growing faster than the overall
    rate for the state.

    CONTINUE: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/h...ses/index.html
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    A CNN investigation of 17 Trump campaign rallies finds that 14 of the host counties - 82% of them - had an
    increased rate of new Covid-19 cases one month after the rally.
    What was the rate increase rate?
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    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    The number of people infected by the Covid 19 virus who have participated in Trump's election gatherings has literally exploded.

    This makes Donald Trump the first presidential candidate who is killing his own supporters.
    Please provide data, this is is absolutely not true.
    Many counties that hosted Trump rallies had a significant increase in Covid-19 cases
    By Nadia Kounang
    October 30, 2020

    A CNN investigation of 17 Trump campaign rallies finds that 14 of the host counties - 82% of them - had an
    increased rate of new Covid-19 cases one month after the rally.

    The 17 rallies occurred between August 17 and September 26. CNN evaluated the rate of new daily cases
    per 100,000 residents at four weeks before the rally, on the rally date, and four weeks after the rally at the
    county level and at the state level.

    Of the 14 host counties that had increased infection rates, eight of the counties had declining rates of infection
    in the month before the rally. The other six counties already had increasing rates of infection in that preceding
    month.

    CNN's analysis also found that in 10 counties, the new rates of infection were growing faster than the overall
    rate for the state.

    CONTINUE: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/h...ses/index.html
    And here's some more data:

    The Effects of Large Group Meetings on the Spread of COVID-19: The Case of Trump Rallies (pdf)
    https://sebotero.github.io/papers/CO...10_30_2000.pdf
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    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    And here's some more data:

    The Effects of Large Group Meetings on the Spread of COVID-19: The Case of Trump Rallies (pdf)
    https://sebotero.github.io/papers/CO...10_30_2000.pdf
    I don't see any increase data, just statements.

    I'd like to see something that tells me there isn't a .0001 death rate for non co-morbidity victims... (it doesn't exist, this WHOLE THING is a political move.. we are being gasslighted and it has worked exceptionally well on some portions of the population).

    unless you think this falls out of the margin of error......

    Quote For the vast majority of these
    variants, our estimate of the average treatment effect across the eighteen events implies that
    they increased subsequent confirmed cases of COVID-19 by more than
    250 per 100,000 residents
    (thats .25 percent...........)

    please re-evaluate.
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    Surprised by this last string of posts.

    Can't argue the stats much, it is possibly even accurate. But again, the argument is mid-level, jumping into conclusions based on error-prone logic.

    So to clarify:

    We have a novel virus. It is spreading through the population. There is nothing anyone can do to stop its spread. It will spread to everyone who is susceptible.

    The good news is that the virus is barely lethal, certainly not lethal to anyone with a strong immune system. Even better news, 85% of the population is so immune that they will not even contract the virus if it is poured down their throats as a cocktail!

    Only 15 % of the population is susceptible. All these will contract the virus no matter what mitigation is employed, unless it is full isolation with bottled air, perfectly filtered. The spread may or may not be slowed by masks, but all who can get it, in most cases will.

    Again though, the good news is that of those 15%, 99.96% will survive the ordeal. And of the .04% that will die, almost all will be either over the age of 80, or have other diseases that make them more at risk to morbidity across the board anyway.


    So, ya, Trump's rallies could be called super-spreader events, but that just brings us closer to herd immunity and the end of the China Flu season, at least for this year.

    The vaccine, as touted is a pipe dream, mRNA designer retro-virus is only theoretical and never been successful to date. To even consider using an untested technology on the entire population of the world is suicidal and insane.

    CNN heads the official narrative and its slant is almost exclusively pro-world government and pro-China.
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    Why Trump? Why Biden?
    Looking in from the outside they both look like idiots. One because he is old and heading dementiawards, the other because he is old and simply an idiot.
    Has to be by design that each side has put these forward as their champions.
    Still reading....
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    The Real Reason They Want You to Hate Trump
    This was posted by Win Keech on his FB page.
    I've been of two minds about Trump, but this doesn't portray him as a saint, and is pretty convincing.
    If he is truly anti-globalist, as he says in this video, that's definitely something at least, even if he can't be free of their machinations.


    I'm including the FB address here as well, since there may be others besides me who can't see the embedded video:
    https://www.facebook.com/win.keech/v...8869180117246/
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    I am sharing with you a text that I found on facebook, I knew that Trump had enemies, all the media in France give a caricature of trump like crazy in freedom.

    For Trump, the end of pestilential immunity

    Influence peddling, fiscal arrangements, conflicts of interest… A dozen investigative cases have already been opened against the President.

    "The people vs Donald J. Trump". In the United States, there are those who dream of the trial, flooding social media with portraits of a deposed president in orange coveralls. There are those who no longer sleep at night, the main stakeholder and his relatives, according to the New York Times. And then those who are preparing for it, a handful of prosecutors already hard at work and legions of lawyers eager to do battle. In both civil and criminal matters, a dozen investigation files are already open.

    "Mario Kart"
    The litigant Trump is a survivor. Throughout his career and until his sole mandate as head of state, the promoter suffered impeachment proceedings, six bankruptcies, some thirty allegations of "sexual misconduct" and around 4,000 complaints related to his business. Although the billionaire has always known how to get by, the possibility of a Berlusconian end has more than once crossed his mind. As early as 2017, through a tweet, he tried to reassure himself:
    "I have the absolute right to GRACE myself, but why would I do it since I haven't done anything wrong?"
    Labyrinthine, any prosecution threatening Trump can fall into three big chunks. First, the time bomb of the famous "Mueller report", these thousand pages of investigation into the suspicions of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. If this river memorandum, the heart of the impeachment procedure thwarted by Republicans, could not bring down Trump during his tenure, he could serve as a legal mine once the presidential immunity is lifted. Notably the acts of obstruction of justice and illegal campaign financing supported by Robert Mueller, which have already led to five convictions in the inner Trumpist circle, leading to cell two of his relatives, his lawyer, Michael Cohen, and his director campaign, Paul Manafort. Not to mention the suspicion of perjury by members of the Trump family and the attempt to force Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to launch an investigation against Joe Biden’s son in return for military aid.

    In his New York stronghold, another iceberg is looming for taxpayer Donald Trump, who has paid just a few hundred dollars in taxes over the past decade. Accused of having systematically falsified its accounts, the Trump Organization is under investigation for tax and insurance fraud, among other embezzlements. In parallel, in Manhattan, the prosecutor Cyrus Vance Jr, a time in charge of the Strauss-Kahn case, digs the trail of the occult payments with several women who have had affairs with Trump, the best known being the ex-actress porn Stormy Daniels, paid 130,000 dollars (approximately 110,000 euros) through her lawyer a month before the 2016 election. Practice in itself not illegal in the United States, but the financial package used by the Trump team was akin to illegal campaign financing, which landed Cohen in jail. And, as the Mueller report demonstrated, the order went back to a certain "Person 1, presidential candidate." The ultimate irony, this incompetent attempt to buy her silence resulted in Stormy Daniels making a bestseller out of it, which has gone down in posterity for the evocative description of her "annoyance at getting ****ed by a guy with a yeti's pubic hair and the mushroom-shaped cock in Mario Kart ”.

    Finally, journalists and lawyers point to the myriad of conflicts of interest between the Trump Organization and the White House. Foreign lobbyists and diplomats have reportedly been tricked into staying at Trump's hotels and golf courses in hopes of gaining access to the president, which could amount to a bribe system. In addition, according to the Washington Post, the Trump Organization billed the federal government more than $ 2.5 million in fees - from rooms occupied by Secret Service bodyguards at his Florida residence in Mar a Lago, to glasses of water (3 dollars each) during a tête-à-tête with the Japanese Shinzo Abe. If it turned out that the businessman Trump had inflated Trump the president's bill, there would be grounds for prosecution, several experts say. Even more ambitious, Glenn Kirschner, former federal prosecutor, believes that his calamitous management of the Covid-19 pandemic could be reclassified as "negligent homicide".
    Tsunami
    While a possible “self-pardon” by the President could be rejected by the Supreme Court, indicting a former president remains an equally perilous exercise. Which could ignite tensions and create a revenge precedent, warn some pundits of the law. According to this principle, Richard Nixon, forced to resign by Watergate in 1974, had been pardoned by his Republican successor, Gerald Ford.
    In the New Yorker, a former Bill Clinton adviser imagines Trump haggling over recognition of his defeat and a peaceful transfer of power to Joe Biden in exchange for dropping the charges. Conversely, the Democrats could launch a second impeachment procedure, a posteriori, in order to prevent a Trump candidacy in 2024. Anyway, faced with the inevitable legal tsunami, Trump is risking something perhaps more embarrassing for him than the prison: the ruin, drowned in the fees of lawyers.


    It's on the French newspaper Liberation
    https://www.liberation.fr/planete/20...tielle_1804999

    I found the entire article on another blog
    https://eldiabloisakiller.blogspot.c...limmunite.html



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    I am sharing with you a text that I found on facebook, I knew that Trump had enemies, all the media in France give a caricature of trump like crazy in freedom.

    For Trump, the end of pestilential immunity
    Because in all the chaos it is not predictable what could happen to Trump as a person, it is important to stay in one’s own power. Such a huge mass of people looking at Trump as a savior could be spiritually very harmed if anything happens. Greatly respect such leaders but do not put them above everything. That said I hope you Americans succeed in electing him again for the sake of freedom in all it’s aspects. And that includes a reversal of decennial long attacks on health as revealed now.

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    Leaving aside the very real threat the globalists under Biden pose not only for America but the entire free world, and ignoring the immense importance of the perception of free and fair elections in the USA, and over-looking the obvious Democratic fraud perpetrated in numerous states, and forgetting the illegal and unprecedented unsolicited tidal wave of mail-in ballots, and trying to keep at bay the growing knot in the pit of my stomach, and from analyzing what has been said by both sides in hours and hours of dialog, and assuming Trump is just a man and not some Ancient Chinese Master Warrior and Tactician, I have to admit that Trump is not likely to retain the presidency.

    I do not state that happily, and only reluctantly. And here's why.

    I fear for our freedom, and for our way of life. I fear we are being left behind and made to pay for crimes our ancestors supposedly committed while trying to flee oppression in their home lands (sound familiar?). I worry that the global agenda of the UN is a death sentence for our way of life. I feel the white man is in jeopardy of being disenfranchised and the fruits of his labor stolen and given to the undeserving (defined as the deserving by the UN, and that is not any of us here in the western world). I am concerned for the nations of the old world, as they are systematically dismantled and rendered powerless in the face of not the external but the massive internal threat from within their own ranks (foreign nationals and globalist sympathizers), who undermine the state and its institutions.

    This is an undeclared war and we are in peacetime mode, going about our personal business as if the old normal is still in effect.

    The New World Order is chomping at the bit, eager to implement their plans, fighting for prominence and status, outdoing each other in their parsimonious PC language, designed to ingratiate, but void of substance, and very, very dangerous to the free world and its economy. They will not be deterred by mere legality at this stage. They are already steamrolling forward, skipping over protocols established long ago. Office of the President Elect! For shame!

    These dishonorable men and women are hellbent to impose their New World Order, now called the Great Reset to confuse the gullible masses, and they have exposed their underbellies in the process.

    But we are in peacetime mode, going about our day, hoping someone somewhere will get it done, or dreaming that Trump is a genius politician with a trump card to play (he himself is proud to say he is not a politician, however).

    The problem is, is that if Trump were to win, the globalists would be outed as the fraudulent bunch of cutthroat psychopaths that they are and they would be thrown in jail or worse. Or to put it another way, if Trump manages to win, Hillary will be going to jail. And what are the chances of that? Because if Hillary goes to jail she ain't gonna go down without taking everyone with her. And the globalists cannot and will not let that happen. They can be exposed, they can manage speculation, but if the hammer falls while their bloomers are down, they are up the creek (nice mix of metaphors)

    The globalists simply can not lose, they have too much at stake. Moreover, unlike the rest of us, they know this is a war because they started it.

    So I'm sorry to report, I fear Trump will loose this fight.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I don't have a hat, and Bill's is far too large for one meal, but if I am wrong I will eat my figurative hat.
    Don't worry, I have a nice hat

    14th amendment court cases (that have already been won, and more pending) are just the start of this fight

    Plus there's a few things no one is talking about....... that are VERY relevant..
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    DC Maga March lead by Alex Jones and InfoWars.com.



    https://www.infowars.com/posts/live-...on-maga-march/

    It might be my connection but I think they are throttling the transmission.
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    The feeling I get is that when the supreme court decides Trump won, the BLM/ANTIFA and their followers will see it as the whole country is their enemy because it was the highest court in the land who pissed them off, not just red hat wearing Trumpies. That is more likely to make them burn the whole country down in complete blind insanity.
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    Kids living in their parents basement playing with matches will not be up to the task of burning down anything but their privileged lives.

    Antifa and BLM agitators stay in Democratic held states for a reason. Republican states would arrest them all the first hour of rioting and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.

    And those kids from America's basements will be crying for mommy to save them from a life in jail.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    The feeling I get is that when the supreme court decides Trump won, the BLM/ANTIFA and their followers will see it as the whole country is their enemy because it was the highest court in the land who pissed them off, not just red hat wearing Trumpies. That is more likely to make them burn the whole country down in complete blind insanity.
    I've been to a couple BLM things...

    It's like 14 agitators and 200 observers.....

    The news is giving them FAR too much credibility, now the propensity for individuals living in disproportional wealth distributed areas for jumping in and stealing **** is.... well.... understandable honestly.

    The funding will dry up and those 14 guys dressed in identical black uniforms will go away and people will go back to being apathetic.... my prediction
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    Default Re: Why Trump?

    Fact: Donald Trump is a narcissist, racist, and sexist sociopath, a Mafia asset, & a puppet of the filthy rich 1%,
    who were the only ones that really profited from those tax cuts, where the working class US citizens were
    supposed to benefit from.

    Donald Trump is Putin's lapdog, Israels toyboy and N-Korean mass murderer Kim Jung Un’s penpall

    Donald Trump gave the petrol and fracking industry cart blanche to once again pollute US soil, seas and rivers
    with heavy metals and other chemical poison - later to be cleaned up with tax payers money

    Donald Trump hardly ever payed any taxes himself and used his position as POTUS to steal millions of taxpayer
    dollars on behalf of his family

    Donald Trump has made the American signature under International treaties of no value whatsoever

    So fraud or no fraud, can anybody please explain to me in less than a hundred words why this Republican thief
    and charlatan is any better than his Democrat opponent.

    Decade after decade both the Republicans and the Democrats have shown a total lack of respect for their voters,
    so is there really such a colossal difference in being bitten by Biden or bitten by Trump?
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