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    Hi, just wanted to post this, so to show how magical Kamila is, even though she’s like 14

    She doesn’t skate, she hovers over the ice lol

    Hope this is not blocked in the US, but please let me know if it is so I can find a better version

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Hi, just wanted to post this, so to show how magical Kamila is, even though she’s like 14

    She doesn’t skate, she hovers over the ice lol

    Hope this is not blocked in the US, but please let me know if it is so I can find a better version
    That was quite something

    Mesmerising. I couldn't help wonder at just how expressive that performance was. Thanks so much for sharing this. And, yes, she does appear to just float.

    It's worth a already
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Hi, just wanted to post this, so to show how magical Kamila is, even though she’s like 14

    She doesn’t skate, she hovers over the ice lol

    Hope this is not blocked in the US, but please let me know if it is so I can find a better version
    Stunning! Thank you Mashika. A great antidote to the dark energy of these times...

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    Thanks, Mashika. She is magnificent!

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    Mashika

    whenever I witness truth and beauty , I tear up. Its automatic. I did so here.

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Hi, just wanted to post this, so to show how magical Kamila is, even though she’s like 14

    She doesn’t skate, she hovers over the ice lol

    Hope this is not blocked in the US, but please let me know if it is so I can find a better version
    I've just watched her perform again. Remarkable, breathtaking and I also love the music she was dancing (or floating) to. Again, thank you.
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    She seems to affirm the beauty and vulnerability of being human, and celebrates being alive with all its attendant fragility. She seems delicate yet strong.

    Thanks Mashika. This is the best and most beautiful expression of being I've seen and experienced today.
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    Hi, just wanted to post this, so to show how magical Kamila is, even though she’s like 14

    She doesn’t skate, she hovers over the ice lol

    Hope this is not blocked in the US, but please let me know if it is so I can find a better version
    I've just watched her perform again. Remarkable, breathtaking and I also love the music she was dancing (or floating) to. Again, thank you.
    Thanks Tintin,

    I believe this song is Emotions on Ice by Eric Radford, who was a skater himself, may have been written specifically for her but i'm not sure, but it would make sense seeing as how she owns it in such a beautiful way

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    Kamila is grace on skates. Simply breathtaking. Thank you, Mashika.


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    [I believe this song is Emotions on Ice by Eric Radford, who was a skater himself, may have been written specifically for her but i'm not sure, but it would make sense seeing as how she owns it in such a beautiful way
    Eric Radford (born January 27, 1985) is a Canadian pair skater. With partner Meagan Duhamel, he is a two-time world champion (2015, 2016), a 2018 Olympic gold medallist in the team event, a 2014 Olympic silver medallist in the team event, a 2018 Olympic bronze medallist in the pairs event, a two-time Four Continents champion (2013, 2015), the 2014–15 Grand Prix Final champion, and a seven-time Canadian national champion (2012–18).

    In addition to competing Radford also coaches and composes performance music for skating.

    [article here]

    Emotions on Ice 2019, Eric Radford

    Emotions on Ice, 28.12.2019, Chemnitz, Eric Radford


    Emotions on Ice 2019, Eric Radford & Kamila Valieva

    Emotions on Ice, 28.12.2019, Chemnitz, Eric Radford plays on the piano,
    his own composition for Kamila Valieva.


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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    [I believe this song is Emotions on Ice by Eric Radford, who was a skater himself, may have been written specifically for her but i'm not sure, but it would make sense seeing as how she owns it in such a beautiful way
    Eric Radford (born January 27, 1985) is a Canadian pair skater. With partner Meagan Duhamel, he is a two-time world champion (2015, 2016), a 2018 Olympic gold medallist in the team event, a 2014 Olympic silver medallist in the team event, a 2018 Olympic bronze medallist in the pairs event, a two-time Four Continents champion (2013, 2015), the 2014–15 Grand Prix Final champion, and a seven-time Canadian national champion (2012–18).

    In addition to competing Radford also coaches and composes performance music for skating.

    [article here]

    Emotions on Ice 2019, Eric Radford

    Emotions on Ice, 28.12.2019, Chemnitz, Eric Radford


    Emotions on Ice 2019, Eric Radford & Kamila Valieva

    Emotions on Ice, 28.12.2019, Chemnitz, Eric Radford plays on the piano,
    his own composition for Kamila Valieva.

    Thank you, that was very beautiful, i had not seen those before <3

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    All I can say is WOW! From Alex Honnold to Kamila to the surfers that ride mountain waves in the ocean, the feats that we humans are capable of are miraculous. No wonder the whole goal of the matrix is to keep us in survival mode and away from our creativity.

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    Kamila reminds me of Oksana Baiul. Kamila is already a world champ:

    "Kamila Valeryevna Valieva (Tatar: Камилә Вәлиева[1], Russian: Ками́ла Вале́рьевна Вали́ева; born 26 April 2006) is a Russian figure skater. She is the 2020 Junior World champion, the 2019 Junior Grand Prix Final champion, and the 2020 Russian junior champion. She currently holds the junior world records for the highest total and free skate scores. She maintains the title of Junior Grand Prix champion due to the cancellation of all Junior Grand Prix events for the 2020-21 season. [2]" (wikipedia)

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    Kamila reminds me of Oksana Baiul. Kamila is already a world champ:

    "Kamila Valeryevna Valieva (Tatar: Камилә Вәлиева[1], Russian: Ками́ла Вале́рьевна Вали́ева; born 26 April 2006) is a Russian figure skater. She is the 2020 Junior World champion, the 2019 Junior Grand Prix Final champion, and the 2020 Russian junior champion. She currently holds the junior world records for the highest total and free skate scores. She maintains the title of Junior Grand Prix champion due to the cancellation of all Junior Grand Prix events for the 2020-21 season. [2]" (wikipedia)
    Yes! i was not aware of Oksana but i looked her up, that was amazing Not just a skater but a ballerina

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    Kamila reminds me of Oksana Baiul. Kamila is already a world champ:

    "Kamila Valeryevna Valieva (Tatar: Камилә Вәлиева[1], Russian: Ками́ла Вале́рьевна Вали́ева; born 26 April 2006) is a Russian figure skater. She is the 2020 Junior World champion, the 2019 Junior Grand Prix Final champion, and the 2020 Russian junior champion. She currently holds the junior world records for the highest total and free skate scores. She maintains the title of Junior Grand Prix champion due to the cancellation of all Junior Grand Prix events for the 2020-21 season. [2]" (wikipedia)
    I just read more about what happened to Nancy Kerrigan, i can't believe that happened to her, how nasty, how cruel and how terrible being acted like that? I's so incredible see it, i don't even know what to say

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    Kamila reminds me of Oksana Baiul. Kamila is already a world champ:

    "Kamila Valeryevna Valieva (Tatar: Камилә Вәлиева[1], Russian: Ками́ла Вале́рьевна Вали́ева; born 26 April 2006) is a Russian figure skater. She is the 2020 Junior World champion, the 2019 Junior Grand Prix Final champion, and the 2020 Russian junior champion. She currently holds the junior world records for the highest total and free skate scores. She maintains the title of Junior Grand Prix champion due to the cancellation of all Junior Grand Prix events for the 2020-21 season. [2]" (wikipedia)
    I just read more about what happened to Nancy Kerrigan, i can't believe that happened to her, how nasty, how cruel and how terrible being acted like that? I's so incredible see it, i don't even know what to say
    Nancy Kerrigan was also a tremendous skater. She was quite brave to recover from her attack and still go on to win a silver medal at the olympics.

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    http://https://fs-gossips.com/kiira-...ranged-inside/

    Kiira Korpi: Figure skating is like a church: everything is beautiful outside until you find out how everything is arranged inside

    Very interesting interview with Kiira Korpi about training system and coaches.
    During Skate America she posted a video of Anna Scherbakova and wondered about human cost of such performances: Am I the only one having mixed feelings when watching these astonishing young skaters? I’m in AWE of their incredible skills, but I also can’t stop thinking what’s the human cost of this level of performance at this age?
    After which she probably faced lots of anger from Russian skating funs. Russian journalist interviewed Kiira about this situation. Here the translation of the interview.Original interview by Dmitri Kuznetsov for sport-express.ru dd. October 24th, 2019 Kiira, I suppose you have received many messages from the Russians in recent days. Are there more support or hate?

    – Unfortunately, I don’t know the Russian alphabet, so I don’t quite understand how to read them. But I would say that public opinion is divided. I think I got strong support. Just the others were louder. I won’t call them haters, these people probably don’t want to ask questions, but prefer to attack me personally. Although I spoke not only about Anna (Shcherbakova), but about the situation as a whole – what is the price of the loss in health of young skaters around the world.

    Did you expect such a reaction?

    – Oh no. These thoughts didn’t appear yesterday, I have been thinking for years about where our sport is going. Very mixed feelings. On the one hand, a technical breakthrough, I’m not trying to belittle the achievements of the beautiful young skaters, the beauty of their performances, their hard work. But being a former athlete and having trained in a lot of places, I know how brutal the sports regime is. And these thoughts about the human cost don’t allow me to enjoy their performances fully.

    When you talk about the human cost, you mean not a lost childhood, but rather human dignity. Do you assume that it’s being infringed in the case of Anna Shcherbakova, Alexandra Trusova, Russian skater-geeks?

    – I wouldn’t concentrate here on one coach, one country. The problem exists not only in Russia, it’s global. I was very frank about this topic in Finland, talking about coaches abuses and outdated working methods. Shouting, humiliation, using fear as a motivation and things like that. It turns out that the athlete is just a product of the system.
    Unfortunately, in Finland the federation supports this. Obviously, they want to have medals, money. And athletes cannot even ask questions. It becomes common, everyone does it. It took me several years after the end of my career to understand the abnormality of such methods. In the long run, it harms mental and physical health. I even wrote a book in Finland on this topic, after which a discussion arose what is a coach’s work from an ethical perspective and what kind of mindset should be in the 21st century.

    It’s clear about Finland. But for example, in the USA, where you live now, isn’t the degree of athlete’s freedom is higher?

    – Absolutely not. At 10 years old, they are already trying to pull the child out of school, get him to study at home, he must spend from three to four hours on the ice, then this time grows. And as a result the majority get injured and leaves figure skating, this is a tragedy. There will always be few who can withstand everything. And the illusion is born that the system is working correctly. Let’s just raise the quantity, and the quality will somehow come itself. If you are not bleeding and you don’t cry, you won’t become an athlete. This is the mentality. I’m generalizing a little, but еру overall picture in the USA looks like this. Many parents are worried, but they are ambitious and invest a lot of money. And even if they see their child in tears, they do nothing.

    The more you cry, the more you win.

    – Exactly. But this is not scientifically proven from the psychology point of view. Can you imagine someone shouting at Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal, threatening them with a racket? Or how do you imagine this at school – the teacher stops teaching the child because he is not good enough and humiliates him in front of the class? I think it’s time to modernize our system a bit. Especially when it comes to children and sports such as figure skating and gymnastics. Where the coach’s power is strong, and the child’s self-determination in the world is just begins to form and their consciousness is more fragile.

    If yelling at a child is the last century, then how should an ideal coach look like?

    – In Finland, we are now moving from a system where the coach is the center to an athlete-oriented approach. That is, an athlete as a human creature goes first, and then goes sports as his profession. We must help children take responsibility. The child must have a say. Now the relationship “coach – athlete” is a monologue, the coach sees in the athletes the continuation of his ambitions, but there should be a dialogue. And in the future, a coach will be the person who creates a positive environment, supports an athlete, helps to reveal his personality. It’s not the coach who makes the athlete, but the athlete himself.

    Let’s try an example. There is such a Russian figure skater Evgenia Medvedeva. She moved to Canada and said that coach Brian Orser gives more freedom. At the same time, her results went down. Where is the line between human dignity and sports demands?

    – Good question. But I’ll ask: “And how do we measure success in the 21st century?” I look at Medvedeva’s career as an incredible success. Now it is even more successful than in Russia. She is freer, she can do figure skating for many more years. She inspires and touches the audience with her bold decisions. And the decision to leave definitely wasn’t easy. I think that now success is measured not only by the color of your medal. The person who is behind the results is important too. Every athlete is such a story! And it makes the sport charming. Sport is a platform for self-realization. Now it’s also preferred by brands, companies that sponsor athletes with a story.

    Have you thought that it’s time for you to head an ISU committee or to establish an organization that protects the rights of child-athletes?

    – Yes, I understand that I’m becoming an activist.(laughs) Especially in homeland. As for the committees, I see myself more influential in a freelance position, so to speak. There is less freedom in the top echelons of sports organizations. Maybe they would like to protect the children, but they certainly don’t want to lose money and sponsors. I was unpleasantly surprised that in Finland the Olympic Committee and the Federation don’t recognize problems of the system, but talk about individual coaches. And it’s difficult everywhere, because such abusive coaches often succeed. But if we understand what is behind these medals, we will start to demand a different approach.

    In figure skating, the training process is quite closed. Can it be made open?

    – This, by the way, is a great idea! Many are trying to make my efforts look like undermining of the sport reputation. I imagine how difficult it is to talk about this in Russia. I see, on many grounds, that a certain cult appears in sport. And no one dares criticize coaches. It’s like a church: everything is beautiful outside until you find out how everything is arranged inside.

    Have you ever talked with coach Eteri Tutberidze, for example? About this topic or in general?

    – No. To be honest, I’m a little afraid of her. (laughs)

    Let’s talk about sports directly. Do you think someone will be able to compete with Alexandra Trusova and the Russian mature juniors this season?
    What they do is incredible. They revolutionize our sport and they are very strong in a technical aspect. I don’t want to say that it is impossible to beat them. But it will be extremely difficult.



    A teenage figure skater has caused an uproar among sports officials in Russia after publicly stating that doping is the only way of ensuring consistent results on the ice.

    On January 21, in a webchat with her followers on Instagram, 13-year-old Anastasia Shabotova addressed one fan's question about ways to raise performance.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-teen.../29724762.html

    "Take a lot of dope, and you'll perform consistently," she said. "And that's it."



    The Russian Dolls have transformed figure skating. But at what cost?

    Critics say Russia’s teenage troika of Kostornaia, Shcherbakova and Trusovahave have turned figure skating into a jumping competition, normalizing an alarming trend in the process. Facade has always been central to figure skating. The sport’s culture dictates that athletes should smile through pain and errors. In the ‘kiss and cry’ area - where skaters wait for their scores – there are rarely dramatic displays. Even when a performance is unfairly marked by the judges, skaters will blow kisses to the camera and wave to the crowd. However peeved they may be, they’ll never reveal it, preferring instead to suffer in silence. Burying true feelings just goes with the territory.


    http://https://www.theguardian.com/s...t-at-what-cost


    Physical and mental abuse in Chinese figure skating

    Singaporean skater Jessica Shuran Yu recently detailed the abuse she suffered during training at the hands of overzealous Chinese coaches. Her experience, sadly, is not unique.

    https://supchina.com/2020/08/03/phys...igure-skating/


    Michael Phelps, other athletes, open up about suicide and depression in new documentary

    Michael Phelps, the most decorated Olympian in history, says he had suicidal thoughts even at the peak of his remarkable swimming career and calls depression and suicide among Olympic athletes an “epidemic.”
    Phelps is opening up about his mental health struggles in “The Weight of Gold,” a new documentary that premiered last week on HBO. The film explores depression and suicide among the world’s top athletes and what should be done to address the problem.
    Other high-profile Olympians including speed skater Apolo Anton Ohno, snowboarder Shaun White, skier Bode Miller, hurdler Lolo Jones and figure skater Sasha Cohen also detail their own struggles in the film.

    http://https://www.foxnews.com/sport...es-documentary
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