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    I saw a news on the star Sirius and there was a click in me telling me of the independence map of the United States with Its 13 ° Sun in conjunction Sirius 14 ° Cancer.
    I had not yet approached the map of the USA with Sirius and this level of consciousness characterized by many Americans ...
    https://www.astro.com/nat/natus2_f.htm

    An idea for a future article

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    "Dans la carte des États-Unis, Pluton, en traversant le Capricorne, est opposé au Soleil du thème natal, reflétant des changements majeurs et irrévocables à de nombreux niveaux. Cet aspect ne s'est encore produit qu'une fois dans l'histoire américaine, pendant la période de la Guerre de Independance."

    (In the map of the United States, Pluto, crossing Capricorn, is opposed to the Sun of the birth chart, reflecting major and irrevocable changes on many levels. This aspect has only happened once in American history, during the period of the War of Independence.)

    Oh wow. I look forward to your article - my French is rusty but I can follow it, and it's good linguistic practice.

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    Quote Posted by HikerChick (here)
    Oh wow. I look forward to your article - my French is rusty but I can follow it, and it's good linguistic practice.

    In preview, article not yet published on my blog

    "The United States and "Sirius"

    It is following the title of an article with the word "Sirius" that I immediately made the connection with the position of the Sun on the date of independence of the United States (04/04/1776) at 13 ° Cancer in close conjunction with the star Sirius at 14 ° that I had the idea to go further in the reflection. What was my surprise to discover that there was in America that there was "an American operator of digital satellite radio" whose name is "Sirius XM Holding" which would include 125 music channels, 13 news channels, entertainment channels and about twenty local channels which would have been created on May 17, 1990 (source wikipedia). This day we had a return of Jupiter from the sky of the independence of the United States in conjunction Kiron the wounded healer and Ceres the nourishing goddess, of the harvests… So it is not by chance this date of creation of digital satellite radio, connection with Sirius?

    You have certainly read or seen a channeled message from Sirius? , there is another phenomenon it is the position of the black Sun in exact conjunction with the Sun of the independence of the USA, which accentuates the message and which explains the contribution of the religious in their daily newspaper the Yin part of the conscience of Americans and firearms in the Yang part, which does not prevent the actions that are daily in this country!
    September / October 2019 was the passage of the North Node / Rahu on the Sun / Sirius / Black Sun, it is an appointment that returns every 19 years, the previous one was between February and March 2001, the master the Moon at the apex of a Yod with the retro sextile Mercury and Neptune as a base. Connection with higher consciousnesses. It is indeed in "Nevada" in the United States where there is a so-called secret "Area 51" military base and which would be linked to UFO theories, it makes sense with the conjunction of Sirius and the Sun.

    Sirius the brightest star in the sky after the Sun, you imagined the influence of its position in conjunction with the Sun ?, and Trump's Mercury (5 ° orb) and the mean dark moon for Biden (4 ° d 'orb). Any retro planet on Sirius and the US Sun must certainly activate particular energies. This was the case for Mercury in retro phase in June at 14 ° Cancer and then returned in July, to update the messages coming from Sirius ???
    Other information on Mercury and this time from the independence map of the USA, which is located at 24 ° Cancer in the retro phase and this time in double conjunction with the stars Castor and Pollus located in the constellation of Gemini and Trump is of the sign of Gemini and this duality very present at the time of the American elections. With Biden it is Jupiter 25 ° Cancer which is found in conjunction with the twin brothers Castor and Pollus!
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    Here is the national chart of the US according to the so-called "Sibly chart" -- there is a slight difference with regard to the ascendant (12° 21' sag instead of 8° 18' sag).

    Now look at the position of Pluto at the incident of 9/11: Pluto was at 12° 38' sag, transiting the ascendent ! The distance is just about a quarter of a degree.

    A strange "astrological coincidence" ...


    Quote The national chart of the United States



    [...]

    Liz Greene, 2005

    (Data used: 4 July 1776, 5:10 pm LMT, Philadelphia, PA; this is the so-called "Sibly chart", which was originally published in 1787. It is based, in part, on eyewitness accounts of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. There is another chart commonly used for the USA, which gives Gemini on the Ascendant, but there is no historical evidence to support this horoscope.)
    https://www.astro.com/nat/natus2_f.htm?&lang=e

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    Hope this is a good place for this regarding the inauguration:

    https://www.subscribestar.com/john-michael-greer


    Quote This ingress shows the astrological indications for politics, economics, and society based on the US presidential inauguration of 20 January 2021. As I write this, Donald Trump’s legal challenges to the 2020 election are still pending, and it is therefore not yet wholly certain who will be inaugurated on January 20, 2021; I am posting this while that is still the case, to avoid any suspicion of partisanship in what follows. Anyone who doubts the accuracy of the delineation here is encouraged to look up the placements and aspects in a standard text such as H.S. Green’s Mundane or National Astrology, where these same indications are covered in detail. I insert these caveats because the chart is, in a word, extreme.
    Executive Summary: The most relentlessly malefic mundane chart I have ever studied greets the incoming administration with a barrage of hostile aspects almost entirely unrelieved by favorable indications. The government can expect to be hammered by one crisis after another, with economic troubles, popular protests, and outbreaks of violence over the top of a spreading collapse of public support in the status quo that puts the entire structure of American governance in question. Whoever is inaugurated early next year is facing political disaster, and whoever becomes the next president thereafter is going to have a gargantuan mess to clean up.
    Period of Effect: An inaugural chart takes effect the day of the inauguration and remains in effect until the person inaugurated leaves office, whether by completion of a term or otherwise. The date and time the inauguration becomes effective is set in the US constitution. This chart therefore begins to apply at noon on January 20, 2021 and will remain effective until noon on January 20, 2025, unless the president leaves office by death, impeachment, or resignation before that time. It will be modified, of course, by the quarterly ingress charts, the influence of eclipses, and of course the Grand Mutation between Jupiter and Saturn, which announces the beginning of a new era in world history a month before the inauguration.
    General Indications: This is an extremely unusual and troubling chart, with six of the nine planets clustered in two tight stelliums that are square each other, one early in the 10th house and the other late in the 12th. As a result there are no fewer than eight squares and no benefic aspects at all. I have never seen a mundane chart before in which the balance of malefic to benefic aspects was so relentlessly one-sided.
    Very nearly the only countervailing influence is the planetary ruler of this chart. With Taurus rising, Venus rules the inauguration. She is very mildly dignified by day triplicity, but weakened by placement in the cadent 9th house; nonetheless she will have a calming and pacifying influence on the nation as a whole during the period of this chart. Given the potent malefic factors at work in this chart, however, and the fact that Venus is not in aspect with any of the other planets in this chart—one of only two planets thus isolated—hers will be a background influence, relevant primarily during lulls in the drumbeat of crisis.
    Aspects: Since this chart is cast for the inauguration of a head of state, the aspects made by the Sun are the most important. All the Sun’s aspects in this chart are applying, and they are read in order of perfection: that is, the events predicted by the aspects will arrive in the order in which the Sun’s movement makes those aspects exact.

    The first aspect to perfect is Sun square Moon. While this is a hostile aspect, its significance is relatively mild in terms of day to day events. It represents difficulties facing the administration, including a loss of support among the administration's own party and strikes or demonstrations by the opposition. These will not be a major challenge to the new administration in the short term, because the Moon is weakly placed in this chart, being peregrine in Aries, and in the last degree of a sign; Aries is also intercepted in this chart, which limits the effect of planets placed in it. However, since the Sun represents the head of state and the Moon the politically active sector of the population, a Sun square Moon indicates a broad loss of support for the new administration among the politically influential classes.
    In addition, the Moon is loosely conjunct Mars and Uranus, two malefic planets whose very close conjunction will be examined a little further on. Moon conjunct Mars warns of quarrels, riots, fires, and bloodshed. A militant spirit is abroad in the country causing much unrest. The armed forces become a significant source of trouble for the government. Moon conjunct Uranus is unfavorable for Congress, predicting disorder, confusion, delay, unpopularity, and changes in laws and policies that have unexpected unfortunate effects. State and municipal officials will face serious challenges, and a rising tide of hostility against all those in authority is in process. These first troubles will thus be a harbinger of more serious problems to come.
    The next to perfect is Sun conjunct Saturn, a far more potent aspect that is highly unfortunate for the government and head of state. It predicts intractable obstacles and delays facing the administration, and a significant loss of popular support. The government’s legislative agenda is stymied, and differences emerge between the president and Congress or between the two houses of Congress. This aspect is also unfortunate for the economy, brings gloom and misfortune to the privileged classes, and portends troubles for state and municipal officials. This aspect can also indicate the death of a leading politician.
    Notice that Saturn is also square the Moon and the malefic Mars-Uranus conjunction, and these squares influences the Sun-Saturn conjunction. Moon square Saturn is unfortunate for the economy and for tax revenue; the country is depressed and disordered, and the machinery of government does not work smoothly. This aspect warns of increased unemployment and poverty, turbulence in the markets, embarrassing events for the government, and serious troubles affecting state and municipal officials.
    Mars square Saturn is another indication of severe trouble for the government, bringing serious difficulties in national life, a turbulent spirit directed against all those in power, and a wave of riots, crimes, murders, and other violent events. The police or armed forces may be involved in the unrest either as targets or, far more dangerously, as participants. Saturn square Uranus warns of troubles and disasters facing the government and major political disturbances. Sweeping political changes are proposed but are badly planned or timed and face insurmountable resistance. This aspect again warns of the death of a leading politician.
    Finally, Saturn is in exact semisquare aspect with Neptune at the time of the inauguration. This aspect portends delay and confusion in national life. The people are unfortunate and discontented and feel that their interests are threatened. Secret or mysterious crimes can be expected, and state and municipal officials face discredit or downfall.
    Next up as the Sun proceeds on its way is Sun square Mars. This brings disputes, quarrels, and dissension at home and abroad, and especially affects the 12th house of national institutions, which Mars occupies in the chart. Established national institutions are thus placed in jeopardy. Waves of public excitement can be expected, militant feelings are widespread, and the president, the government, and the privileged classes face widespread hostility and opposition. This aspect yet again is associated with deaths among the political leadership of the nation.
    Almost simultaneous with the Sun square Mars is Sun square Uranus. This is another highly malefic indication; it predicts sudden crisis for the government resulting from some false step on the part of the nation’s leadership. Popular support wanes further, friends are lost and enemies made, attempted changes and reforms prove to be unwise and unsuccessful, and conflict within the ruling party can be expected.
    The very close conjunction between Mars and Uranus should be taken into account at this point. This is another aspect indicating sudden and unexpected troubles facing the government, and a costly false step by the administration. It predicts public turmoil, strikes, violence, lawlessness, charges of bad faith or broken promises, and a crisis of confidence in which the people lose what faith in their government they still have left. Mars and Uranus are both poorly dignified in this chart, Mars being in his detriment and Uranus in his fall, and both planets are in the cadent 12th house, so the impact of these troubles will be less drastic than it might otherwise be: a period of cascading problems that eventually come to an end, rather than a total catastrophe.
    The last aspect within the Sun’s orb is Sun conjunct Jupiter. This represents an improvement of conditions in the wake of crisis. Once the cascading disasters are over, some degree of peace and prosperity can be expected and the government comes in for a lucky break or two. On the other hand, since Jupiter rules the 8th house of death in this chart, it may simply mean that good things will be said about the late president after his death.
    Jupiter’s benefic force will have limited effect because he is afflicted by a conjunction with Saturn and squares with the Mars-Uranus conjunction. Jupiter square Mars predicts public agitation over secret crimes, and also indicates the spread of a militant spirit in the country. Jupiter conjunct Saturn warns of serious disturbances in the national life and prolonged economic troubles which may take many forms. Jupiter square Uranus is unfortunate for the ruling party, bringing the defeat of legislative measures and success for the opposing party.

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    Now look at the position of Pluto at the incident of 9/11/2001: Pluto was at 12° 38' sag, transiting the ascendent ! The distance is just about a quarter of a degree.


    It is also the position of Mars in conjunction with the south node which is a sign of disaster.
    Pluto talks about what is hidden, therefore secret and not yet revealed at the time of the event.


    And Jupiter on the day of the attack was in conjunction Sirius

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    ..the invisible tropical zodiac moves backward 1 degree every 72 years in relation to the actual stars so after 245 years it has shifted almost 3 and half degrees backward..in astronomical terms(what you saw in the sky) U.S. sun was aligned with yellow canis major star WEZEN(by right ascension) and in parallel to alpha aries orange star HAMAL, what i call the aryan star, due to its warlike invasive nature.
    ..however jupiter was within 2 and half degrees from astronomical alignment with SIRIUS and in close alignment with another white star ALHENA in gemini constellation, and along with venus, both in parallel aspect to PLEIADES/ALCYONE..illustrates that the leadership(sun) has a tendency to be at odds with the philosophy/religion..
    ..Washington reflects that duality, as at 38N54 it lies directly under the passage of 2 stars currently. VEGA at 38N48 declination, and the red eye of the gorgon GORGONEA TERTIA at 38N55 declination..so both stars take it in turns to pass vertically overhead Washington, every day at different times.
    ..back in 1776 GORGONA TERTIA was not closely related to Washington, but VEGA was just moving into range, hence the masonic interest in grabbing that spot for its long passage..the gorgons eye is moving further north and VEGA still moving to exact overstar slowly, but the red eye of the gorgon is virtually exact now(just past)
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    Quote Posted by ian33 (here)
    ..the invisible tropical zodiac moves back 1 degree every 72 years in relation to the actual stars so after 245 years it has shifted almost 3 and half degrees back..in astronomical terms(what you saw in the sky) U.S. sun was aligned with yellow canis major star WEZEN(by right ascension) and in parallel to alpha aries orange star HAMAL, what i call the aryan star, due to its warlike invasive nature.
    ..however jupiter was within 2 and half degrees from astronomical alignment with SIRIUS and in close alignment with another white star ALHENA in gemini constellation, and along with venus, both in parallel aspect to PLEIADES/ALCYONE..illustrates that the leadership(sun) has a tendency to be at odds with the philosophy/religion..
    ..Washington reflects that duality, as at 38N54 it lies directly under the passage of 2 stars currently. VEGA at 38N48 declination, and the red eye of the gorgon GORGONEA TERTIA at 38N55 declination..so both stars take it in turns to pass vertically overhead Washington, every day at different times.
    ..back in 1776 GORGONA TERTIA was not closely related to Washington, but VEGA was just moving into range, hence the masonic interest in grabbing that spot for its long passage..the gorgons eye is moving further north and VEGA still moving to exact overstar slowly, but the red eye of the gorgon is virtually exact now(just past)
    Ian you may find this of interest in regard to Washington's location and the timing of political events plotted against the position of stars above DC at that moment:

    https://www.captainhindsight.space/

    Also mentioned here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...of-the-Q-posts

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    it is very interesting that so many of these events have venus aligned with the tail of the scorpion, and in parallel aspect to the stars in the claws.. considering scorpios connection with rebirth and transformation..the u.s elections traditionally happen that time of year, so not nearly so surprising,and of course in the middle of the day the sun and nearby planets venus and mercury will be around the midheaven.not to be confused with the sky directly above washington(the zenith at around 39 N )which would be hercules constellation at that time..this is also aligned further north with the head of draco the dragon
    ...but so interesting that hercules was passing directly overhead washington at such times, considering the legend that he fathered the kings of scythia, mating with a woman who was half snake..the aryan scythians who went on to take over europe, morphing into various tribes the celts, goths etc etc whose kings became the rulers whose genetics the presidents carry..ahh the cosmic merry go round, the moving story book of the ancients..we can weave any tale into given inspiration and imagination..respect to all you star gazers
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    ..the invisible tropical zodiac moves backward 1 degree every 72 years in relation to the actual stars so after 245 years
    Thank you for the feedback, it is obvious that my reflection takes into account the evolution of Sirius with 1 ° of orb, we are on time. It is no coincidence that Area 51 in Nevada is no coincidence. Since the date of independence of the United States the Sun has approached Sirius by 10 ° has passed to 14 ° for a Sun located at 13 °, this is just an indication, because in the sidereal nothing changes, there will always have one degree of orb between the Sun and Sirius, then let it be Gemini, it's just a backdrop, it doesn't change anything for the conjunction.
    Sirius passed in 2000 at 14 ° Cancer which means since 2000 - 72 = 1928 date when the UFO experiments would have started ?, since Sirius was during this period in exact conjunction with the Sun whatever the sign, it is just a benchmark to understand each other.

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    Quote Posted by ian33 (here)
    ..the invisible tropical zodiac moves backward 1 degree every 72 years in relation to the actual stars so after 245 years
    Thank you for the feedback, it is obvious that my reflection takes into account the evolution of Sirius with 1 ° of orb, we are on time. It is no coincidence that Area 51 in Nevada is no coincidence. Since the date of independence of the United States the Sun has approached Sirius by 10 ° has passed to 14 ° for a Sun located at 13 °, this is just an indication, because in the sidereal nothing changes, there will always have one degree of orb between the Sun and Sirius, then let it be Gemini, it's just a backdrop, it doesn't change anything for the conjunction.
    Sirius passed in 2000 at 14 ° Cancer which means since 2000 - 72 = 1928 date when the UFO experiments would have started ?, since Sirius was during this period in exact conjunction with the Sun whatever the sign, it is just a benchmark to understand each other.
    ..thanks i misunderstood you..also i am now using right ascension with stellarium showing over 5 degrees out of alignment for u.s. chart sun in relation to pluto, by north south alignment, which confuses things even more..i learn by my mistakes and with something new i make mistakes..i did study tropical for 20 years but left that behind 30 years ago..and now something new again...i had no idea you were discussing u.f.o. or 1928

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    i did study tropical for 20 years but left that behind 30 years ago..and now something new again...
    I also studied the sidereal zodiac and even the double zodiac, to tell you that this change can be understood in astrology.
    Tell me do you have any planets in conjunction with the south node position, if not natal, by progression?
    You never switch by chance from one zodiac to another, there is always a reason. It is by convention and to make myself understand that I use the tropical zodiac, but if I speak of conjunction regardless of the sign, it is just to set the scene. On the other hand with the frames, it is easier to get along, because the position of a sign has no importance with the frames. It is obvious if I speak of the conjunction of the Sun with Sirius of the independence map of the United States, in cancer in tropical that this conjunction is found in Gemini in sidereal, but the conjunction remains the same in the interpretation of the meet.


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    .i had no idea you were discussing u.f.o. or 1928
    I simply made the connection between the conjunction of the Sun and Sirius and Area 51 as a Secret Military Base. What I understand that this exact conjunction between the Sun and Sirius at that time was the start of something related to this

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    Quote Posted by ian33 (here)
    i did study tropical for 20 years but left that behind 30 years ago..and now something new again...
    I also studied the sidereal zodiac and even the double zodiac, to tell you that this change can be understood in astrology.
    Tell me do you have any planets in conjunction with the south node position, if not natal, by progression?
    You never switch by chance from one zodiac to another, there is always a reason. It is by convention and to make myself understand that I use the tropical zodiac, but if I speak of conjunction regardless of the sign, it is just to set the scene. On the other hand with the frames, it is easier to get along, because the position of a sign has no importance with the frames. It is obvious if I speak of the conjunction of the Sun with Sirius of the independence map of the United States, in cancer in tropical that this conjunction is found in Gemini in sidereal, but the conjunction remains the same in the interpretation of the meet.


    Quote Posted by ian33 (here)
    .i had no idea you were discussing u.f.o. or 1928
    I simply made the connection between the conjunction of the Sun and Sirius and Area 51 as a Secret Military Base. What I understand that this exact conjunction between the Sun and Sirius at that time was the start of something related to this
    i do not have any conjunctions with south node even by progression, but it is my 'star ruler, in vedic astrology terms(ruler of my moons nakshatra)
    i no longer consider the tropical positions and my current research is with right ascension ,planet star alignments, at right angles to the equator, an extension of the earths longitude lines into space..using which the u.s. sun is not aligned to sirius, hence my initial confusion, i am with you now all cleared up..
    ..this method is starting to make sense to me with the stars, and i am using parallel planet star alignments, again an extension of latitude lines into space(declination)
    ..sorry about my assumption, i was too busy to check properly
    ..good to talk with someone who is aware of these distinctions and the mental capacity to interrelate between systems
    .. i rarely do peoples charts these days, as people understandably like what they already know, and i am going other places..i am not commercially orientated, never have been, its all learning/enquiry..but i do have a hidden f.b. group where i make mundane observations...and several star alignment research groups
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    the alignment of the stars is an astronomical study, not an astrological study. The study of the 27 nakshatras of Vedic astrology is yet another thing, you mix everything up to make your intergalactic cuisine, but certainly not so-called scientific astrology, to compare it to the horoscopes that are classified in the astrology category, but who does not have one. And Heliocentric astrology, with the Sun at the center of the zodiac and the Moon in conjunction with the Earth. All these study techniques are interesting, what does not have it is wanting the opposites between them ...

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