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    The sting of the steal revealed. This isn't over. It's just getting started
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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    ...

    What kind of bribe, blackmail and/or insanity allowed this to happen? All three?

    Form Jim Stone:

    ANOTHER indescribably horrible thing happened today:

    [...]
    Michigan's Wayne County certifies election results after initial deadlock -


    UPDATE: Repub. Election Board members reverse vote, no certification

    Isabel Van Brugen
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    That doesn't look good if that's Lindsey Graham fist bumping Kamala Harris.


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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    Pressure...building...

    Quote BOOM: Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing ‘PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY’ of Election Results in Michigan

    The affidavit from Russell Ramsland of Allied Security Systems concerning the election fraud that took place in the 2020 election in Michigan was released. In the affidavit Ramsland shows the physical improbabilities of the election results there.
    Full affidavit here..

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ults-michigan/

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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    What kind of bribe, blackmail and/or insanity allowed this to happen? All three?

    Form Jim Stone:

    ANOTHER indescribably horrible thing happened today:

    [...]
    Michigan's Wayne County certifies election results after initial deadlock -


    UPDATE: Repub. Election Board members reverse vote, no certification

    Isabel Van Brugen
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    Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:19 UTC
    That doesn't look good if that's Lindsey Graham fist bumping Kamala Harris.

    Come on Gemma these are Covidiots scared to give a handshake ;-)

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    It's the affectionate back rub that bothers me. But then again maybe he's just a nice guy showing ... "compassion"?

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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Pressure...building...

    Quote BOOM: Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing ‘PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY’ of Election Results in Michigan

    The affidavit from Russell Ramsland of Allied Security Systems concerning the election fraud that took place in the 2020 election in Michigan was released. In the affidavit Ramsland shows the physical improbabilities of the election results there.
    Full affidavit here..

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ults-michigan/
    This expert witness, Russell Ramsland, is very good. He makes relatively complex computer stuff and the related vote counting and vote manipulation capabilities of the Dominion electronic vote machines and its systems and software easy to understand.

    Remember Diebold? Dominion acquired Diebold. Diebold electronic voting machines were proved to be easily hackable. It’s the same cast of characters up to their dirty, criminal tricks.

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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    A clear and viable path to victory? Less than an hour (I think?) to find out what that path is...


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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    Merkaba360 said: "I was talking to my friend today about law and politics etc. He is very deep into it. He said that he believes even lower court judges who support Trump will not rule for Trump on these election lawsuits, because the plan is to take it to the Supreme court. The Trump team is appealing to the supreme court based on a 14th amendment violation, and he is saying they will win for the mail-in ballots being unconstitutional. That will throw out millions of ballots, not just winning cases for a few hundred ballots to be thrown out. The reason they dont want to give him the wins in the lower courts is so they can use the supreme court ruling to set the precedence for this in the future. That will be more powerful to set the tone and momentum for future change regards to voting fraud and elections."

    I hope that any judge that has one of these cases come before him or her, pro-Trump or otherwise, takes the time to study the evidence/facts brought before the judge and apply the appropriate law to the evidence/facts.

    It is always better to win in the lower court. It is never a good strategy to lose on the merits in a lower court thinking you will win in a higher court. A judge who supports Trump knows this and in my view would be more likely to rule in Trump's favor, not against him. Same for a judge who supports Biden. (Assuming it can even be conclusively determined that a judge was pro or anti any candidate.)

    In my opinion, getting a case(s) before the USSC does not hinge in anyway on whether the judge is pro-Trump or pro-Biden. If Biden loses at the hands of a pro-Trump, or an anti-Biden, judge that very likely means Biden will seek review in the USSC. If Trump loses to a pro-Biden to anti-Trump judge, then Trump will certainly seek review in the USSC. The USSC will very likely grant review to either candidate, unless there is already a case before the USSC that the USSC believes will settle the legal issues without the need to grant review of another case(s).

    The Pennsylvania case before the USSC may be such a case. If review of additional cases is granted by the USSC, it will likely consolidate all cases into one decision and dispose of them all.

    I see your point. I also thought that it would seem a bit risky to intentionally rule against Trump's team to go to the supreme court. However, these guys are networked and may have things worked out far more than we think behind the scenes. Not to mention possible seers or 'looking glass' technology guiding their decisions. My friend seemed to think that the left is desperate and trying to control the narrative thru the media as they know that in the end constitutional law will rule in Trump's favor and maybe trying to end this before it gets that far.

    Are the lower courts ruling based on whether these things are unconstitutional or not? IF not, then maybe the lower courts of course will not help Trump much as he can only prove cases with small wins based on fraud or whatever. So, the what the lower courts are ruling on might have to mostly go against trump, and the deciding factor will be in the USSC ruling on mail in ballot constitutionality. In that case, it wouldn't be that The Trump team needs to influence their rule, but that it will come down to the supreme court rule anyway.

    Basically, the lower courts (mostly law of the water - business law) are barriers to the law of the land and our rights. They utilize barriers of cost, huge delays, nit picky technicalities of incorrect documents and procedure, and other tricks the judge may use thru legal language confusion, etc.

    They have been putting up all kinds of road blocks for my friend for 12 years, but he will never quit. He is likely one of the closest 'nobody' Americans to get thru this legal door to freedom. My complaint is that it is BS that this route to freedom requires success through a corrupt system that is cheating to derail those who pursue their estate.

    @mypos : Do you have a thread you recommend for me to elaborate more. I dont know that i want to start my own new thread to attend to as i cant help much via legal language. I can probably be helpful as a non legal persons view of the topic from listening to him for many hours.
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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    Trump legal team press conference

    I watched all of it live, very long
    Undeniable evidence of voter fraud big time.
    At the end they more or less dared the press to publish accurately what was revealed.
    Think we are getting there.
    If Trump wins it will benefit all of us, its down to the courts

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    (can't watch now, have to earn a living, but here's my hit and run post)

    https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...390946304?s=20




    https://twitter.com/aaronjcarpenter/...125928452?s=20

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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    Maybe I'm being paranoid, but Bill Kristol saying he is alarmed may be code for his 'vote" in favor of taking some form of action.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Trump legal team press conference

    I watched all of it live, very long
    Undeniable evidence of voter fraud big time.
    At the end they more or less dared the press to publish accurately what was revealed.
    Think we are getting there.
    If Trump wins it will benefit all of us, its down to the courts

    Chris

    Thanks Chris, and still nothing on mainstream UK.

    I stand back aghast with the whole thing and can’t fathom their diabolical, sinister, wicked, foul, malevolent, corrupt, heinousness, loathsome, satanic, malignity, nefariousness ways. If any of you bastards are watching take note. The light always win.

    Got it off my chest, feel better now. Deep breath.

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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elect...ction-results/

    Quote 9 Key Points from Trump Campaign Press Conference on Challenges to Election Results

    Rudy Giuliani and other lawyers representing President Donald Trump’s campaign outlined their case Thursday that the Nov. 3 presidential election was so deeply flawed in several key states that the results should be overturned in the president’s favor.

    Giuliani said there was a pattern to the alleged irregularities in key states that suggested, he said, a “plan from a centralized place” to commit voter fraud in cities controlled by Democrats.

    He said widespread adoption of vote-by-mail had allowed Democrats to take big-city corruption practices nationwide. “They picked the places where they could get away with it.”

    Here are the key allegations the lawyers presented:

    1. Observers were allegedly prevented from watching mail-in ballots being opened. Giuliani said that many mail-in ballots were opened without observers being able to check that they were properly signed, a key protection against fraud. Those votes, he said, were “null and void,” especially where the envelopes had been discarded, making recounts useless.

    2. Allegedly unequal application of the law in Democratic counties. In Pennsylvania, whose state supreme court created new, relaxed voting rules before the election, Giuliani alleged that absentee voters in Democratic counties were allowed to “cure” defects in their ballots, while voters in Republican counties, which obeyed the state law as written, were not.

    3. Voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them. Giuliani said that many provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh were submitted by people who showed up to vote in person, only to be told that they had voted already. He alleged that Democrats had filled out absentee ballots for other people, hoping they would not show up.

    4. Election officials were allegedly told not to look for defects in ballots, and to backdate ballots. Giuliani cited an affidavit from an official who swore she was told not to exclude absentee ballots for defects, and to backdate ballots so they would not appear to have been received after Election Day, to avoid a Supreme Court order to sequester those ballots.

    5. Ballots casting votes for Joe Biden and no other candidates were allegedly run several times through machines. Giuliani said that there were 60 witnesses in Michigan who would attest to ballots being “produced” quickly and counted twice or thrice. He said that a minimum of 60,000 ballots, and a maximum of 100,000 ballots, were allegedly affected.

    6. Absentee ballots were accepted in Wisconsin without being applied for first. Giuliani noted that Wisconsin state law was stricter regarding absentee ballots than most other states are, yet alleged that 60,000 absentee ballots were counted in the Milwaukee area, and 40,000 in the Madison area, without having been applied for properly by the voters who cast them.

    7. There were allegedly “overvotes,” with some precincts allegedly recording more voters than residents, among other problems. Giuliani said there was an unusually large number of overvotes in precincts in Michigan and in Wisconsin, which he alleged was the reason that Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers had refused to certify the results there this week. He also alleged that there were some out-of-state voters in Georgia, and people who had cast votes twice there.

    8. Voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to the Venezuelan regime and to left-wing donor George Soros. Sidney Powell argued that U.S. votes were being counted overseas, and that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software were controlled by foreign interests, manipulating algorithms to change the results. Powell noted specifically that Smartmatic’s owners included two Venezuelan nationals, whom she alleged had ties to the regime of Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro. The legal team alleged that there were statistical anomalies, such as huge batches of votes for Biden, that could not be explained except as manipulation — which, they alleged, happened in the wee hours of the morning as vote-counting had stalled. (The companies have disputed these allegations vigorously.)

    9. The Constitution provides a process for electing a president if the vote is corrupted. Jenna Ellis argued that the media, had usurped the power to declare the winner of the election. She made the point, citing Federalist No. 68, that the constitutional process of selecting a president had procedural safeguards against corruption and foreign influence.
    Giuliani said that the campaign believed that enough votes were flawed — more than double the margins between Biden and Trump in key states — that the president had a path to victory.

    Giuliani presented evidence in the form of sworn affidavits, citing two and noting that the campaign had many more from private individuals.



    He noted that several lawsuits that had been dismissed had been filed by private individuals, not the campaign directly. He said lawsuits might be filed in Arizona, and that the campaign was also examining irregularities in New Mexico and Virginia, though he said he did not think there were enough disputed votes in the latter.

    Giuliani also took on the media, arguing that they had provided misleading information and condoned threats against Trump’s legal team.

    https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...924395529?s=20




    Quote Sidney Powell at today's presser -- confirms that servers were seized in Germany, but then says she doesn't know if the good guys or the bad guys carried out the raid.

    Video starts at 2:11:39 with question and her answer
    (putting in youtube tags stripped off the start time, instead went to beginning - this link goes straight to the answer.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQC...outu.be&t=7899
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    'I watched all of it live, very long
    Undeniable evidence of voter fraud big time.
    At the end they more or less dared the press to publish accurately what was revealed.
    Think we are getting there.
    If Trump wins it will benefit all of us, its down to the courts

    Thanks Chris, and still nothing on mainstream UK.

    I stand back aghast with the whole thing and can’t fathom their diabolical, sinister, wicked, foul, malevolent, corrupt, heinousness, loathsome, satanic, malignity, nefariousness ways. If any of you bastards are watching take note. The light always win.'

    Maybe I'm being a pessimist but even (likely) if Trump is "in", I doubt his second term will last long - I wouldn't be surprised if he is taken "out" within the first month. Its looking like the election will prove to be just a fly (albeit a big fly) in the ointment and the "end plan" is the ultimate global goal. (I think) Trump's re-election is just the beginning of an explosive world-wide reaction and at this point I'm not betting on who will hold all the cards at the end....at least a few years down the road.
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    Dominion Voting paid Georgia Secretary of State $106M; Supreme Court to decide Pennsylvania Election


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    CNN's own fact checking page admits Dominion ties to Venezuela and the Clinton Foundation!

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    Powell claimed that widely used voting machines from the election technology company Dominion Voting Systems featured software created "at the direction" of former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to swing his own election results, and that the company has ties to the Clinton Foundation and Soros.

    Facts first: None of this is true. Dominion has no corporate ties with Venezuela, the Clinton Foundation or Soros.
    Powell and other Trump allies have tried to tie Dominion, which sells election technology that was used in more than two dozen states, to another voting company called Smartmatic. During the 2020 election, Smartmatic's technology was used only in Los Angeles County, and not in any swing states, a spokesperson for the company told CNN.

    Smartmatic was founded in Florida by two Venezuelans, and did provide election technology to the Venezuelan government. Powell has posted on social media a purported affidavit from an unnamed Venezuelan official claiming Smartmatic software was used to change votes in the country. But those claims have no evidence, and there's no reason to believe the company's software was created to make sure Chavez "never lost an election," as Powell claimed. The company actually spoke out to accuse the Venezuelan government of voter fraud in 2017.
    The bigger issue with this claim is that there is no evidence that Dominion machines used Smartmatic software, as Powell suggested -- and thus zero connection between Venezuela and the company whose voting machines were actually used in the swing states Trump is focusing on. Both Dominion and Smartmatic have said that they are competitors with no corporate links.

    The origin of the claim linking the companies seems to be a convoluted corporate transfer: In 2005, Smartmatic acquired a company called Sequoia Voting Systems, but sold it in 2007 after questions from members of Congress over the acquisition by a company linked to Venezuela. Three years later, Dominion, which was founded as a Canadian company but is now majority owned by Americans, acquired Sequoia. In addition, Smartmatic licensed Dominion machines for use in the Philippines in 2009, but the contract ended in a lawsuit, Dominion said in its statement.

    Neither Dominion nor Smartmatic have corporate ties to the Clintons or Soros, a major Democratic donor. While Dominion did agree to donate its technology to "emerging democracies" as part of a program run by the Clinton Foundation in 2014, according to the foundation's website, Dominion said in its statement that it has "no company ownership relationships" with the foundation. And while the chairman of the board of Smartmatic's parent company is also on the board of a foundation run by Soros, Open Society Foundations, Soros himself is not involved in either company.
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    CNN's own fact checking page admits Dominion ties to Venezuela and the Clinton Foundation!
    Maybe their insane pathological thinkers calculate that they have a greater chance of foxing the supreme court over mysterious electronic fraud than over old skool ballot stuffing.

    The court is more likely to make vague statements of reservation while more investigation is carried out, giving the fraud team more MSM scope to spin the mind control train.
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    Amazing footage from people who pay attention...
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