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    According to Becky, former Avalon member (now Simon's wife) they will be moving to Phoenix, which is in Maricopa County, an early hotspot in the ongoing POTUS election controversy.
    I warned her that after a lifetime in wet, chilly England, the heat in Phoenix will be challenging, and the political heat may still be as well, even once they've relocated there...

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    (Believe it or not), Simon Parkes explains all this very clearly in this 7 minute video, published yesterday.
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    Hey, thanks for this Bill, who would have thought Simon would be such a clear decipherer of U.S politics? And of course he is spot on, I have been dimly aware of how the state legislators were briefed by the Trump legal team so diligently, but I was a little unsure of the precise constitutional role. It makes sense! Here's hoping.
    One of the reasons why Simon savvy to US politics is because he’s moving to the United States. IIRC, he wants to make Arizona his home.

    @ 1:41 - Simon shared it on his “5th December Election Update 2020” video. His plan is to become an American citizen and give up his British citizenship.
    "Some of you have been asking about the move to America and saying, "What do I intend to do about citizenship? "

    Yes, I will be looking to take US citizenship. Takes an age. A bit under the situation that I think will be occurring over the few months to come. Maybe it won't take quite that long depending on what reasons you go out there and what's happening.

    So yes I would take United States citizenship. I think it's very important. It’s part of a commitment. Probably give up British citizenship. Probably just give it up. Doesn’t mean I can't come back to Britain. Of course I can, but I probably wouldn't want to keep both nationalities. I think that's a strong commitment to the US."
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    I believe he (and others) follows this Forum and goes to school on what he learns here too. Nothing wrong with that.
    Agreed, nothing wrong with that. Lots of bright people here.

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    According to Becky, former Avalon member (now Simon's wife) they will be moving to Phoenix, which is in Maricopa County, an early hotspot in the ongoing POTUS election controversy.
    I warned her that after a lifetime in wet, chilly England, the heat in Phoenix will be challenging, and the political heat may still be as well, even once they've relocated there...
    Helpful points to pass along, Natalie. No doubt Becky appreciates your input.

    IIRC: Simon said it’s was one of the places they were considering. The reason for that location was because people were open to healthy ways and to grow a business. Could be now they're looking at other options.

    It’ll be an adventure to transport their dog and multi-cat-clan. I like it when they pop into the broadcast.

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    I was chatting with Becky on Facebook last week, which is when she said they'd decided on Phoenix.
    I recounted to her my own brief experience in Phoenix, a stop off destination in route to Sedona from No. Cal. maybe 30 years ago.
    Rather than sitting in the airport terminal waiting for my connecting flight to Sedona, I decided to take the mini-bus which circled around the airport parking lot.
    Nothing much to see, but after withstanding the first incredible blast of heat upon exiting the air-conditioned terminal and entering the barely cooled minibus, the only thing that could go through my mind was something like a kind of involuntary, hypnotic, pre-programmed mantra which went like this, over and over again: "My God, it's SO HOT!! My God, it's SO HOT!!"
    Nothing else seemed able to enter my mind and interrupt the repetition until I got back into the cool terminal.
    I can't imagine how those who have to work outdoors ever adjust to it.
    Their very furry cats are not going to want to go outside at all.

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    I believe he (and others) follows this Forum and goes to school on what he learns here too. Nothing wrong with that.
    Agreed, nothing wrong with that. Lots of bright people here such as yourself, Satori. (insert blush emoji)

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    According to Becky, former Avalon member (now Simon's wife) they will be moving to Phoenix, which is in Maricopa County, an early hotspot in the ongoing POTUS election controversy.
    I warned her that after a lifetime in wet, chilly England, the heat in Phoenix will be challenging, and the political heat may still be as well, even once they've relocated there...
    Helpful points to pass along, Natalie. No doubt Becky appreciates your input.

    IIRC: Simon said it’s was one of the places they were considering. The reason for that location was because people were open to healthy ways and to grow a business. Could be now they're looking at other options.

    It’ll be an adventure to transport their dog and multi-cat-clan. I like it when they pop into the broadcast.

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    Attorney Jenna Ellis on Trump Team Legal Options, Supreme Court Decision
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    Today we sit down with constitutional law attorney Jenna Ellis, a member of the Trump campaign legal team, to get an update on their legal efforts, and what she expects the future holds.

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    All 38 Texas electoral votes for Trump; Michigan Judge stands up for what's right
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    "Today we will discuss how Trump won all 38 electoral votes in Texas and how much of a stand person Michigans Judge is. Also we will get into all the hacking going on in America.The hacking of key federal departments was found to have been accomplished through a software system called SolarWinds.

    SolarWinds is a company headquartered in Austin, Texas. It is mainly engaged in software development, systems and information technology architecture, network management, and other businesses. Their major shareholder is the US-based "Silver Lake Investment Corporation'', which has also invested hundreds of billions of dollars in mainland China. It was also the main backer of China Ant Financial Services from the US in its 2018 financing.

    On December 14, Trump announced in a tweet that Attorney General Barr would be leaving. In his departure letter, Barr did not have any complaints about Trump, but said a lot of good things about him instead. Barr said that Trump's accomplishments during his past four years in office were historic and achieved in the face of relentless and hostile resistance. He said Trump's 2016 victory speech called on his opponents to work together for the good of the American people, but in return the Democrats went almost all out and launched a fierce attack on Trump that went too far."

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    more posts in thread at link:

    https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/stat...960603658?s=20



    https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/stat...78454711267332



    https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/stat...954139142?s=20

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    https://twitter.com/SoberCDA/status/...269508608?s=20

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    Trump Prepares for military counterattack? | Judges and families threatened, forced to refuse cases?
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    "Now that the electoral college has voted for the president and vice president, and the leftist media have announced Biden’s “official” status as the President-elect, is it still possible for the election result to be reversed? Is there still scope for the truth of the election to be exposed? We’d like to suggest that there is—on both counts. We look at three options open to President Trump, particularly focusing on the kind of circumstances that would warrant use of presidential prerogative power and how this option could be implemented to best effect.

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    CONFIRMED: Election Interference; China, Iran, Russia Called Out; Report Coming Soon
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    "The deadline for President Trump’s executive order on foreign election interference is tomorrow, and John Ratcliffe said that Iran, China, and Russia DID interfere. Report coming soon.

    The CEO of Dominion revealed that some of his voting machines can be connected to the internet.

    The Trump administration is withholding $200,000,000 of funds from California, because they require insurance companies to fund abortions.

    A new report found that Mark Zuckerberg’s $500M donation to the election, was unevenly distributed between Democrats and Republicans, by a ratio of about 10:1."

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    Epoch Times commits to great coverage of the election news
    So I've been copying and pasting some of the articles here on the forum, but it's been too much to keep up with, so today I'm just listing the names of the articles, the date, and the URL address to the each article from a few days ago.
    Take your pick!

    Trump Campaign Files Supreme Court Challenge to Overturn Election Results in Pennsylvania Dec 20
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-...g-2020-12-20-4

    YouTube Removes Trump Lawyer’s Opening Statement From Senate Committee Hearing Dec 20
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/youtub...g-2020-12-20-3

    Former Wisconsin Judge: ‘Our Court System Has Been Deeply Intimidated by the Left’
    Dec 20
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/former...g-2020-12-20-2

    Rep. Matt Gaetz Says He Will Challenge Electoral College Votes on Jan. 6 Dec 20
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/rep-ma...g-2020-12-20-1

    Dominion Whistleblower Accuses CEO of Lying During Michigan Hearing
    Sat, Dec 19
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/domini...g-2020-12-19-4

    Trump Says Voting Machines May Have Been Breached by SolarWinds Hack During Election
    Sat, Dec 19
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-...g-2020-12-19-2

    Redacted Information in Dominion Audit Report Shows Races Were Flipped: Analyst
    Sat, Dec 19
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/redact...g-2020-12-19-1

    Georgia Official Warned Counties Not to Grant Open Record Requests for Voting Software: Memo Fri, Dec 18
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgi...g-2020-12-18-5

    Georgia Poll Workers Who Raised Election Concerns Get Terminated Fri, Dec 18
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgi...g-2020-12-18-4

    Trump: Republican Senators Should Object to Electoral College Votes Fri, Dec 18
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-...g-2020-12-18-2

    Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night
    Fri, Dec 18
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/recoun...g-2020-12-18-1

    China Engaged in ‘Mass Surveillance’ on Americans’ Mobile Phones, Report Finds
    Thu, Dec 17
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-...g-2020-12-17-5

    Explainer: Dueling Electors and the Upcoming Joint Session of Congress
    Thu, Dec 17
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/explai...g-2020-12-17-4

    Peter Navarro Issues Report on Voting Irregularities: ‘The Emperor, In the Election, Has No Clothes Thu, Dec 17
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/peter-...g-2020-12-17-3

    DNI John Ratcliffe Confirms There Was Foreign Interference in November Elections
    Thu, Dec 17
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/dni-jo...g-2020-12-17-2

    Opinion: President Trump: Declassify Everything—Everything Sat Dec 17
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/presid...&utm_content=4

    Exclusive Interview: Jenna Ellis: State Legislatures Key in Trump’s Path to Victory Thu, Dec 16

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/jenna-...g-2020-12-17-1
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    Thank you very much Onawah!!

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    DNI Ratcliffe: Hunter Biden's emails are 'not part' of Russian disinformation campaign
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    "Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says we haven't shared any intelligence with Rep. Adam Schiff or any member of Congress.


    Promises! Promises! He cannot answer the question "Why has it taken so long?"
    One comment on the youtube page posits the likely unspoken answer: "I'll tell you why no one has dared to prosecute the Clintons or Biden, they're afraid they'll catch a contagious case of suicide...."
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    Trump’s New Election Strategy; Arizona REFUSES To Conduct Audit; Big Tech Censorship
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    "In Georgia, the Senate released an election report which found evidence of “coordinated illegal activity.”

    In Arizona, election officials are refusing to comply with a subpoena to audit the voting machines and as well as the ballots.

    In Pennsylvania, the Trump legal team is pushing a new case to be heard by the US Supreme Court.

    And as all this is happening, BIG TECH is censoring information about the election across all platforms."
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    This has a response date of January 22nd 2021...So the SC challenge is still live?

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/Search....ic\20-845.html

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    This has a response date of January 22nd 2021...So the SC challenge is still live?

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/Search....ic\20-845.html
    It appears from the docket that all Respondents waived the right to file a response. If so, there will be no Responses filed.

    A respondent is not required to file a response to a petition for writ of certiorari unless ordered to do so. I did not see such an order.

    Writs of cert. are granted infrequently. It remains to be seen whether the SC will grant Trump’s petition, but the odds are not in his favor.

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    Satori: A question: What do you make of the idea that the corporation known as the United States of America ended at midnight on January 19th, 2021 per an executive order that Trump signed in 2018?

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    Satori: A question: What do you make of the idea that the corporation known as the United States of America ended at midnight on January 19th, 2021 per an executive order that Trump signed in 2018?
    which EO what number?

    there was an EO about foreign interference and asset seizure... that one may be applicable but only under very specific circumstances.

    there's a lot of EO's, if your interested in finding out about them here's a good site: https://www.federalregister.gov/pres...ald-trump/2018
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    Satori: A question: What do you make of the idea that the corporation known as the United States of America ended at midnight on January 19th, 2021 per an executive order that Trump signed in 2018?
    which EO what number?

    there was an EO about foreign interference and asset seizure... that one may be applicable but only under very specific circumstances.

    there's a lot of EO's, if your interested in finding out about them here's a good site: https://www.federalregister.gov/pres...ald-trump/2018
    The EO is a separate matter pertaining to seizure of assets from the foreign country/corporation.

    As I understand it, from the post I posted yesterday, the suggestion is that papers dissolving. the corporation of the US formed in 1871 were lodged in London 18 months ago with the 19th Jan being the date on which it occurred.

    The troops are now occupying a foreign power, the square mile within DC cordoned off by the fence. If interference in the us election is established, All assets of the enemy power can be seized due to the EO also issued in 2018.

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    Satori: A question: What do you make of the idea that the corporation known as the United States of America ended at midnight on January 19th, 2021 per an executive order that Trump signed in 2018?
    With all respect to all concerned, I think it is total nonsense. I do not say that off the cuff without having first delved into the issue. I stated looking into this stuff nearly 20 years ago.

    I've researched relevant statutes, such as The Residence Act of 1790, The Organic Act of 1801 and The Act of 1871. (These are their short titles.) None of these acts do, or stand for the propositions, that are being put out there. My advice is to ignore those assertions and do not waste your time trying to navigate through the maze of inconsistencies, erroneous thinking and conclusions, and outright falsehoods. It all leads to nowhere and does not advance any real, meaningful and important issues or interests of the common and we, the people.

    Yes, DC is a "municipal corporation". (It is not a business corporation.) Yes, it has a governor. Yes, it has "legislative assembly" consisting of a "council" of 11 people and a "house of delegates" consisting of 22 delegates. (There's that number 33 again.) Yes, the legislative assembly can pass certain laws, raise money and assess certain taxes, and appropriate money.

    However, like the states it cannot create or coin money and it has all the other limitations and disabilities of the States of the US, such as having no power to enter into treaties or negotiate with foreign powers. This is spelled out in the Act of 1871, and as amended.

    All members of the legislative assembly are required to take an oath to support the US Constitution and the laws of the US.

    The "municipal corporation" known as the District of Columbia is a creature of Congress and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the US. Congress gave DC it's charter to form and operate as a "municipal corporation" and all other powers. Congress can repeal the charter or amend the legislation regarding the charter. And it has done the latter from time-to-time.

    What Congress gives, Congress can take away. (Not that it will in this situation.)

    In short, no POTUS has the power by EO or otherwise to repeal DC's charter or the legislation concerning it. DC continues to exist and is under the jurisdiction of Congress and is subject to the US Constitution and the laws of the US.

    DC is in the nature of a "quasi sovereign", similar to Indian Tribes operating on Indian Land

    (Indian is PC, by the way. That is the term used in statutes. But, Biden may seek to change "Indian" to "Native American" like he wants to strike "alien" from immigration statutes and replace "alien" with "noncitizen." Very important work for Biden to be focusing on in his early days.)

    I have no interest in discussing this topic any further as it is a distraction that leads to a dead end, no matter how convincing the people may be who are selling this snake oil.
    Last edited by Satori; 22nd January 2021 at 18:14.

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    Satori: A question: What do you make of the idea that the corporation known as the United States of America ended at midnight on January 19th, 2021 per an executive order that Trump signed in 2018?
    With all respect to all concerned, I think it is total nonsense. I do not say that off the cuff without having first delved into the issue. I stated looking into this stuff nearly 20 years ago.

    I've researched relevant statutes, such as The Residence Act of 1790, The Organic Act of 1801 and The Act of 1871. (These are their short titles.) None of these acts do, or stand for the propositions, that are being put out there. My advice is to ignore those assertions and do not waste your time trying to navigate through the maze of inconsistencies, erroneous thinking and conclusions, and outright falsehoods. It all leads to nowhere and does not advance any real, meaningful and important issues or interests of the common and we, the people.

    Yes, DC is a "municipal corporation". (It is not a business corporation.) Yes, it has a governor. Yes, it has "legislative assembly" consisting of a "council" of 11 people and a "house of delegates" consisting of 22 delegates. (There's that number 33 again.) Yes, the legislative assembly can pass certain laws, raise money and assess certain taxes, and appropriate money.

    However, like the states it cannot create or coin money and it has all the other limitations and disabilities of the States of the US, such as having no power to enter into treaties or negotiate with foreign powers. This is spelled out in the Act of 1871, and as amended.

    All members of the legislative assembly are required to take an oath to support the US Constitution and the laws of the US.

    The "municipal corporation" known as the District of Columbia is a creature of Congress and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the US. Congress gave DC it's charter to form and operate as a "municipal corporation" and all other powers. Congress can repeal the charter or amend the legislation regarding the charter. And it has done the latter from time-to-time.

    What Congress gives, Congress can take away. (Not that it will in this situation.)

    In short, no POTUS has the power by EO or otherwise to repeal DC's charter or the legislation concerning it. DC continues to exist and is under the jurisdiction of Congress and is subject to the US Constitution and the laws of the US.

    DC is in the nature of a "quasi sovereign", similar to Indian Tribes operating on Indian Land

    (Indian is PC, by the way. That is the term used in statutes. But, Biden may seek to change "Indian" to "Native American" like he wants to strike "alien" from immigration statutes and replace "alien" with "noncitizen." Very important work for Biden to be focusing on in his early days.)

    I have no interest in discussing this topic any further as it is a distraction that leads to a dead end, no matter how convincing the people may be who are selling this snake oil.
    I realize now that I may have missed the mark a bit as your question was about the "corporation known as the [USA]." I had DC in my head. My apologies, but I stand by what I said about DC.

    In any event, my answer to your question is basically the same. Further, I've seen no EO from Trump that purports to dissolve the "corporation" known as the USA. Show me the EO and I may have something else to say.

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