Biden Supporters

[onawah]

I voted Republican for the first time in my life, for Trump, though still not a fan for many reasons.
I couldn't believe the Democratic party couldn't come up with a candidate better than HRC after losing the last election.
But listening to Dark Journalist's show tonight with guest Dr. Joseph Farrell, about Trump and this election, I felt validated for stooping to choosing the lesser of two evils again (rather than not voting at all), and I've begun to feel more lately that perhaps he is more than that.
I highly recommend DJ's show to those who are having trouble adjusting to this new, unfamiliar Twilight Zone reality.
You will probably learn something of value if you can stay the course ( it's 3 hours long).
Though Trump is really going to have to man up if he wins again this time, if things are going to improve....I'm praying for him.

[greybeard]

Its not about Trump -- its what is behind him -- the team -- and that extends beyond the obvious.
For me it comes down to general reset.
If Biden wins as far as I can tell it will head in the direction of The New World Order reset.
However is the Repuplican part emerges as winner than we may have quite a different situation with a totally new banking system. QFS (Quantum Financial System)
This would be backed by gold.
As I understand it (limited understanding) Money laundering would not be possible -- every ounce of gold having an identity.
With this banking system you personally own and control your finance. It can not be touched by anything else.
There is a lot more to this than I can say here. I just dont have the expertise to do it justice.
http://www.mindbodyheartandsoul.org/...t-documentary/

Impressive video on swift head quarters

https://www.switch.com/las-vegas/
Chris

[Lunesoleil]

My feeling the first time I saw Biden on a TV screen, I didn't know anything about this man, my judgment was negative and I'm not sure why without knowing him I developed a form of rejection.
Then I listened to a report on Biden about these trials in his personal life and these repeated blunders. I haven't really managed to really talk about him on my blog.
My feeling today, I tell myself that if he's a loser, it's because Biden can't become president, it's not possible or it would be the surprise gift, a sort of final reward. When you win something in life, you have won a victory and have been officially named the winner, but this is not the case, for the moment.


I am usually suspicious of my feeling, but here it turned out for Biden's hypothetical victory associated with many messes and there I told myself that my feeling was not neutral and that there was a real origin.
We are in a world filled with lies and where the light must overcome the darkness ...

[WhiteFeather]

i'm a registered Democrat, but i voted Trump. Biden and Kamala just gave me the plain ole willies, along with Chuck the Shmuck and that Parasite Pelosi, to name a few.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
I think you're right. The average American is, I think, voting on the candidates personalities, and nothing more.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing though.

Another word for politics is ideology, which is also another word for dogma. In almost every sphere of human actively dogma has, for millennia, wreaked havoc. Personally, I've always eschewed the traps of dogma – like the plague. It's why I've had very little to do with politics over the years. I mean seriously, what real-world difference does voting right or left actually make? Not very much difference when both wings are owned/controlled by the same damn bird.

Because policies make little to no difference it comes more down to character for me. For that, you have to be a good judge of character, and context. But first you have to learn to see through the tricks and mirages and shadow-craft of controlled perception management - in other words mind control that has the population in its grip.

In recent years I've done my best to interrogate political personalities to inform my opinion. That began with Obama. In US politics, I very much wanted Obama to win in 2008. I honestly believed at the time he was the long awaited 'chosen one' let's say, a gift for humanity that would upset the world order and bring much needed hope. Little did we know at the time he was just another tool, another puppet of the globalist machine. I fell into the mind control trap. I got played - we all did. Lesson learned.

And what was that lesson? Obama was the polished statesman, the consummate professional, and was/still is an excellent, most powerful speaker. The lesson therefore is, that the more genuine (appropriate) a candidate seems, the less genuine they're likely to be.

It's more likely that perception management is in play.

But who are these "politicians" really? I wrote somewhere something along these lines. It was a list of qualifications/red flags for holding high office:

Corruptibility
Has a lengthy political career, but a dodgy background, with buried scandals, questionable associations, and potential criminal activity.

Bribability
Has a penchant for sexual impropriety, such as adultery, affiliations with prostitutes, male or female, and possibly the abuse of children.

Psychopathy
Are living, walking, talking egos on massive power-trips. Arrogance guarantees ambition at the expense of morals.

Dishonesty
Trained in pathological lying. To be a viable and successful politician one has to be an expert liar from the get go.

Monetary Worth
Nothing says "compromised" more than multiple mansions, and a bank balance far exceeding government salary.

Endorsement
Who supports, pushes, and endorses, is the biggest tell. If it's big corporate interests, then you know. If it's mainstream media, then you know.

If a political candidate has a check in one or more of these categories, they will go far in politics. If they already have gone far in politics, then they've got a check mark in one or more of these categories.

It is almost 100% guaranteed that ALL world leaders have at least one or two of these attributes (with some, maybe all). And it doesn't matter if they're male or female. Men and women are far more alike than different. Human nature is human nature.

The obvious consequence here is that Presidents and PMs don't sit at the top. They are likely nowhere near the top. After all, who is doing the bribing to keep them in check, the paying and the protecting to keep them in power? Politicians are like circus performers - or, possibly professional wrestlers, which Painterdoug talked about in another thread. They pretend to grapple, but 90%+ is a show. The wrestler isn't head of the organization either. He's just a chump in a leotard. He has trainers, coaches, advisors. Above these are management teams, and above those are more management teams.

How far it up the chain it goes is anyone's guess. Boris Johnson in the UK went to the same school as Cameron and Blair et al. He's just a chip off the same monolithic block of granite as all the rest. He jumped through the same hoops, received the same grooming, and thus probably qualifies in one or more of the above categories. You really think he's a sovereign thinker, or doer? You really think he cares? You really think has an original thought in his head -- or is simply executing the exact same globalist agendas as his predecessors?

As for Biden...well, you know the thing.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

As a libertarian I am very concerned at what is happening in this country. I feel a civil war is upon us. I am generally very conservative but I believe everyone in Washington should be fired and we should start over, with term limits. I also firmly believe if you don't vote you cannot complain.

I heard someone voice an opinion that her children could finally be safe with Biden as president. I wanted to ask why? What changed? But I know better than to open that can of worms. I hate that people are hating other people for the way they voted!

[Mike]

Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
As a libertarian I am very concerned at what is happening in this country. I feel a civil war is upon us. I am generally very conservative but I believe everyone in Washington should be fired and we should start over, with term limits. I also firmly believe if you don't vote you cannot complain.

I heard someone voice an opinion that her children could finally be safe with Biden as president. I wanted to ask why? What changed? But I know better than to open that can of worms. I hate that people are hating other people for the way they voted!

Couldn't agree more with this Karen.

I voted for the first time in my life during this election for precisely that reason. I didn't mail it in; I waited in the damn slow-moving line and watched as my ballot went thru that bloody machine. It wasn't a heroic gesture of course, I'm not suggesting that, but it was symbolic of my commitment to what I feel is right and just.

If you don't vote you cannot complain. Nailed it there. I would even say that if you're not paying taxes you shouldn't complain either. Or, if you're on government benefits of any kind, you shouldn't complain. But, oddly, those are the people that complain the most, generally

[Mike]

Star Mariner, some excellent stuff there, as usual.

But if there was an election where the policies were relevant, I'd say it was this one.

For most of my life I felt voting was useless. And you can make a pretty compelling argument that it is (and you did just that). And if we are to believe that fraud played a big part in this election, perhaps it is, in this instance. But, voting is what got Trump in in the first place, and I felt a duty to at least try to get him back in again. So I voted. And maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think it was in vain.

I think we need to be careful not to attribute a kind of blanket power and omniscience to the Deep State. They are fallible in some ways. Trump getting elected proved that. To assume they have it all in the bag leaves us powerless. So, even if it is a pointless ritual, I think I will continue to vote in the future. It gives one a little hope, if nothing else.

p.s. "you know the thing"
p.s.s. Obama fooled me too. Don't feel too bad about it

[Orph]

Posted by Mike (here)

If you don't vote you cannot complain. Nailed it there.

Sure I can. This is the way I see it, if you vote, regardless of who you voted for, you are part of a system where-by you give up your right to be a sovereign being. You are in effect saying:

"I give up my right to make my own decisions. I give you the power to make decisions for me. I give you the right to run my life and make laws against me".

And yes, that is exactly what you are doing anytime you vote. You can hope that the people you elect will do the right thing and do what truly is best for all the people. But, as we can see from the very sad state of affairs that our country is in, money corrupts. Politicians can and will sell out to the highest bidder. Consider face-masks, lock-downs, and possibly forced vaccinations in the future. That's just one example of how we, the common people, are forced to bow down to the elected elite. (Whether we voted or not). What was that George Carlin quote ?? --- "Voting is just the illusion that you actually have say-so" or something to that effect.

Now, see it from a different perspective. Suppose, .... just suppose that nobody voted. Suppose the entire country stood united and told every last elected person in D.C. that "WE DID NOT VOTE FOR YOU!! WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO RULE OVER US. GET OUT"!! Obviously that would never happen and god (and the devil) only knows what the fall-out would be if such a thing happened. But, ... don't pretend that every one of you reading this hasn't at some time or other thought about telling those people in D.C. just that very thing.

But to say that I didn't vote means I can't complain is BS. You can vote 'till you are blue in the face. (Or white and red on your face). The corruption continues.

[Mike]

Posted by Orph (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

If you don't vote you cannot complain. Nailed it there.

Sure I can. This is the way I see it, if you vote, regardless of who you voted for, you are part of a system where-by you give up your right to be a sovereign being. You are in effect saying:

"I give up my right to make my own decisions. I give you the power to make decisions for me. I give you the right to run my life and make laws against me".

And yes, that is exactly what you are doing anytime you vote. You can hope that the people you elect will do the right thing and do what truly is best for all the people. But, as we can see from the very sad state of affairs that our country is in, money corrupts. Politicians can and will sell out to the highest bidder. Consider face-masks, lock-downs, and possibly forced vaccinations in the future. That's just one example of how we, the common people, are forced to bow down to the elected elite. (Whether we voted or not). What was that George Carlin quote ?? --- "Voting is just the illusion that you actually have say-so" or something to that effect.

Now, see it from a different perspective. Suppose, .... just suppose that nobody voted. Suppose the entire country stood united and told every last elected person in D.C. that "WE DID NOT VOTE FOR YOU!! WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO RULE OVER US. GET OUT"!! Obviously that would never happen and god (and the devil) only knows what the fall-out would be if such a thing happened. But, ... don't pretend that every one of you reading this hasn't at some time or other thought about telling those people in D.C. just that very thing.

But to say that I didn't vote means I can't complain is BS. You can vote 'till you are blue in the face. (Or white and red on your face). The corruption continues.

Well, if you don't vote you can't complain if the other guy wins.

And if the other guy wins, you can't complain when he implements policies he announced he would implement that you disagree with.

That's mostly what I meant by that.

Whether voting is an empowering or disempowering process all depends on how you look at it. I bounce back and forth between being cynical and hopeful about it.

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Mods, feel free to shut this thread down. Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

[Gracy]

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

Well that's hardly a surprise. Although hey Mike, I'm no Biden supporter but I play one on tv. I can certainly plead the case if you want.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

We have half a dozen (or maybe 7, or possibly even 8 or 9) — but I won't out them! They've posted recently on various threads. (Most are commendably pleasant, but not every one them has expressed themselves that way.)

[42]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

We have half a dozen (or maybe 7, or possibly even 8 or 9) — but I won't out them! They've posted recently on various threads. (Most are commendably pleasant, but not every one them has expressed themselves that way.)

You can out me if you like.... 10

[Mike]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

Well that's hardly a surprise. Although hey Mike, I'm no Biden supporter but I play one on tv. I can certainly plead the case if you want.

sure, I wouldn't mind hearing you plead the case!

I'm all yapped out and am genuinely ready to listen, in earnest. Hard to believe maybe, lol, but true

[Mike]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

We have half a dozen (or maybe 7, or possibly even 8 or 9) — but I won't out them! They've posted recently on various threads. (Most are commendably pleasant, but not every one them has expressed themselves that way.)

Ah, gotcha.

Even if the motivation is simply that they despise Trump, that's cool. I'm just curious. Even if they're closet socialists, also cool. They will get no flak here. It's just that ive had this weird intellectual calm in the midst of the storm, and thought I'd take advantage of it by simply listening and offering no thoughts of my own. At the very least, it would be good discipline

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Posted by 42 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

We have half a dozen (or maybe 7, or possibly even 8 or 9) — but I won't out them! They've posted recently on various threads. (Most are commendably pleasant, but not every one them has expressed themselves that way.)

You can out me if you like.... 10

Cool, thanks for coming thru.

Would you say you simply despise Trump? Or do you truly support Biden? A mix of both?

[42]

I don't despise anyone... but if i did it would be DJT. It's a crying shame that 278m US citizens can not offer up a better solution.

[Mike]

Posted by 42 (here)
I don't despise anyone... but if i did it would be DJT. It's a crying shame that 278m US citizens can not offer up a better solution.

Fair enough! And thanks.

Do you think Biden is a competent candidate? If so, why?

[Gracy]

As a life long democrat, it is most obvious to me that voting for the democratic party is always always always, in the best interest of common working people. Joe Biden came from humble, working class roots in Scranton, Pennsylvania, that's a big plus in my book right there.

Leaving room for 42 if he so desires, I'll just skip ahead to the most important reason of all. He's not Trump!

[42]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
As a life long democrat, it is most obvious to me that voting for the democratic party is always always always, in the best interest of common working people. Joe Biden came from humble, working class roots in Scranton, Pennsylvania, that's a big plus in my book right there.

Leaving room for 42 if he so desires, I'll just skip ahead to the most important reason of all. He's not Trump!

Gracy - yes... He's not trump. That's about the best I can say... other than speaking from my international perspective (UK and Canadian) the saddest part of what we witness in the USA today is polarity, hatred and divisiveness. This is not the American dream and it's tearing families apart. Here's a powerfully written article about the pain that US politics has inflicted on one family. There are plenty of other examples. Maybe the US needs more than two choices at vote time... most other countries have that option...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/opini...dge/index.html

[Cipher]

Posted by 42 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Apparently we don't have a single Biden supporter here. Astonishing!

We have half a dozen (or maybe 7, or possibly even 8 or 9) — but I won't out them! They've posted recently on various threads. (Most are commendably pleasant, but not every one them has expressed themselves that way.)

You can out me if you like.... 10

You can out me as well.... 11
I've nevered shared an opinion here of Biden, but after the Trump experiment I think it's safe to say that a position as important as the presidency of the United States should never be placed in the hands of someone so deeply damaged.