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    Default Start of a New Era: Jupiter and Saturn

    Sorry if this topic has already been posted but I couldn't find it, it's not a prophesy as such so maybe in the wrong place but its worth looking at & it would be nice to have input from anyone versed in astrology.

    There is something huge happening astrologically on the 21st of December this year, right on the winter solstice, which heralds the start of a 20year cycle that then becomes part of a larger 200 year cycle.....or a new age, or "great reset" or "new world order" ???.

    Those in secret societies know all about this stuff and undoubtedly have their hopes & plans pinned on this to completely change the world as we know it, but will "the heavens" aid their plans or help humanity ?

    "On December 21, 2020, the day of the winter solstice, Jupiter and Saturn will again conjoin one another for first time since May 28, 2000. It is quite symbolic to have the Great Chronocrator start its new 20-year cycle right on the day of the winter solstice, for both the conjunction aspect and the winter solstice represent important cyclical turning points in the cosmos. A conjunction is when the cycle involving the dynamics of two planets ends and begins. The winter solstice is the darkest day of the year in the Northern Hemisphere. From that day forward, the days start to become longer (light increases) and the evenings shorter (darkness decreases), as discussed earlier in this year’s book. Thus, it is as if the concept of an end and beginning is doubly highlighted on December 21, 2020."

    "As Jupiter and Saturn orbit around the Sun and form their conjunction with one another approximately every 20 years, they do so at an advance of about 243° through the signs. That is, each conjunction is about 8 signs and 3° later in the signs than the previous conjunction. Thus, they will repeat in the same element (fire, earth, air, or water) for several cycles – 10 cycles of 20 years each – and then move into the next element for ten cycles. The time that Jupiter and Saturn spend in the same element lasts approximately 200 years. However, this repetition of signs-by-element usually becomes distorted at the end of each of these cycles. That is, it doesn’t just end one element and start a new series of ten consecutive cases in the next element. It will give a preview of the next element just before the tenth instance, and then return to that former element for its tenth case, and after that it will start a series of consecutive occurrences in that new element. When it finally starts the series of consecutive conjunctions in the new element, it is known as a “Great Mutation.” In this case, the word “mutation” refers to the change of elements-by-sign of the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction.

    December 21, 2020 will be a case of such a “Great Mutation.” It will start a series of consecutive 20-year conjunctions in air signs that will continue until December 20, 2159, when it jumps forward to Scorpio, a water sign. But then it reverts to air signs again in 2179 and 2199 before fully locking into water signs for the next several 20-year cycles."

    Full article at https://isarastrology.org/en-gb/raym...er-and-saturn/

    More on the same topic https://www.lunarplanner.com/~lunarpla/2020/index.html
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    True. The synodic cycle between Jupiter and Saturn is an important generational event that happens every 20 years approximately. This time is even more significant because of the larger change and evolution that we are experiencing as humanity along with the planet. Also, the fact that it's happening in Aquarius, the sign of revolution, innovation, science, future, aliens and the breaking of all patterns, that marks the beginning of a new era.

    There's a ton of things to analyze astrologically. What I can say is that it won't come smoothly at all. We are already in a grand finale in 2020 with a very brutal conflict between Mars (in Aries), Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn that will trigger more violence and anger that was deeply suppressed (peaking in mid-December). Between Christmas and February, the conflict will remain but it will change quality. Jupiter and Saturn will enter Aquarius and they'll meet Uranus and Mars for another war, more science-fiction like, a societal collapse and a birth of new values. This is a huge clearing for all of us. Awesome period.
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    I opened a discusqion in the astrology forum. Jupiter and Saturn in conjunction Pluto is a cycle of 400 years and the importance of this social shift from chaos to a new society? Pluto the god of the underworld wearing an invisible case, it symbolizes wealth. Pluto is also associated with the black race and Africa? This time the cycle Jupiter and Saturn must deal with Pluto, the world economy takes a new turn in political management, banks, savers. The digital currency is Neptune, will end up semi-squared in 2021 with Jupiter and Saturn, psychological deviations can develop and Uranus squared until 2022, economic problems are only beginning with the key to social adaptation solutions based on economic interests and mutual social ...

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...uto-and-Saturn

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    According to various information out there as well as the Phoenix Journels Immanuel/Jesus was born the 08.08.0008 which is exactly 8 years later than the official records state.if this is the case then the Mayan calendar is spot on.The true 2012 Date would be 8 years later. 21.12.2020.

    Personally I do think amazing times are ahead the next 2 months.

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    According to various information out there as well as the Phoenix Journels Immanuel/Jesus was born the 08.08.0008 which is exactly 8 years later than the official records state.if this is the case then the Mayan calendar is spot on.The true 2012 Date would be 8 years later. 21.12.2020.

    Personally I do think amazing times are ahead the next 2 months.

    Viking
    Over a year ago I wrote a long and detailed thread about how some researchers feel the real Mayan calendar corresponds with *visible celestial events* and the big one is the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...cember-21-2020

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    Thanks for the thread and it was good to read all the posts too.

    I've posted on other threads that the night skies are particularly energetic recently. Lots of activity, changes and dynamism to be observed.

    But the single biggest thing for me is I can feel it without looking. The energies are powerful and turbulent in a manner suggesting the night is always darkest before the dawn.

    Summary is we're on a really crappy rollercoaster ride, but we will win in the end.
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    Quote Posted by marielle (here)
    Over a year ago I wrote a long and detailed thread about how some researchers feel the real Mayan calendar corresponds with *visible celestial events* and the big one is the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction:

    I have noticed several times that the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn is found in the creation of an organization where it has a strategic place.
    The Rothschild Family is structured by the cycle of Jupiter and Saturn, I had done a research with the dates of birth of the heirs.
    I share this work with you

    Mayer Amschel Rothschild (the founder of the dynasty) born February 23, 1744
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie...hel_Rothschild
    birth under a crescent semi-sextile of Saturn / Jupiter

    Maurice de Rothschild born May 19, 1881
    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_de_Rothschild
    birth under a Saturn / Jupiter conjunction

    Edmond James de Rothschild born August 19, 1845
    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmond_de_Rothschild
    birth under a crescent square Saturn / Jupiter

    Philippe de Rothschild Born April 13, 1902
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under an increasing conjunction of Saturn / Jupiter

    Guy de Rothschild born May 21, 1909
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Guy_de_Rothschild
    birth under a crescent sexqui-square of Saturn / Jupiter

    Edmond de Rothschild born September 30, 1926
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under a crescent square of Saturn / Jupiter

    Nadine de Rothschild born April 18, 1932
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under a Saturn / Jupiter opposition

    Philippine de Rothschild born November 22, 1933
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under a decreasing square of Saturn / Jupiter

    Edouard de Rothschild born December 27, 1957
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under a decreasing sextile of Saturn / Jupiter

    Benjamin de Rothschild born July 30, 1963
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under a crescent sextile of Saturn / Jupiter

    Ariane de Rothschild born November 14, 1965
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_Rothschild
    birth under a crescent trine of Saturn / Jupiter


    Rothschild family
    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_Rothschild

    The creation of the Euro took place under a decreasing semi-sextile of Jupiter and Saturn on January 1, 1999 and the currency was put into circulation on December 31, 2001, this time under an increasing semi-sextile and Jupiter and Saturn in phase retro which shows the fragility of the Euro.
    For the Dollar, the entry into circulation on April 4, 1792 is the official currency of the United States under an opposition of Saturn conjunction Mercury / Sun and Jupiter retro conjunction Neptune and Mars will return to this opposition in December at the time of the conjunction of December 21 of Jupiter / Saturn, the fall of the Dollar?
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie..._de_l'euro
    http://translate.google.com/translat....php&sandbox=1

    For the birth of Jesus, there is indeed a card with a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces (Jesus was born under the beginning of the Age of Pisces)
    https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/J%C3%A9sus-Christ


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    One who knows to follow the cycles knows that all is only the interplay of energy...
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    One who knows to follow the cycles knows that all is only the interplay of energy...
    Speaking of cycle, I saw you slipped your date of birth (ddn) into your profile. You have just experienced your first return from Saturn 29 1/2 year cycle, the structure corresponding to the progressed cycle of the Moon 28 1/2 years approximately, this is the period of fundamental choices.

    You finish a progressed soli-lunar cycle with Neptune opposing your Sun and a birth in the Aquarius phase ...
    You are a modern day prophet.

    To be clear, do you work in care, medicine? Your psychic abilities will further develop. Listen to your dreams, there are messages to come ...

    Your new moon progressed which after your birthday in 2023 ... I tried to keep it simple.

    Do you practice Tarot?

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    Thank you Lunesoleil, but if I were to claim that I'm prophet then that would be highly arrogant of me. A healer? Perhaps, even if I doubt my abilities. I think this should be considered as a private matter, I appreciate you looking at my chart though.
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    I think this should be considered as a private matter, I appreciate you looking at my chart though.

    It is true that with Saturn we must not exceed the authorized limits
    http://translate.google.com/translat....htm&sandbox=1

    I put the option in English, just change the target language.
    I like this site a lot otherwise the original language is German
    http://translate.google.com/translat...m%2Fzxjupf.htm

    A return of Saturn is always an important step and in addition in the company of the triple conjunction of Pluto / Jupiter / Saturn, that totally changes the psychic foundations of a society then when it comes to an individual?

    Already in 2019 I was talking about the decreasing conjunction of the cycle of Jupiter and Saturn, we were in phase 12 of the cycle. We will have to wait until 2021 to take the new temperature of the social climate which will go through a profound change in consciousness ...


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    From Astrologer Astro Lada about the Jupiter Saturn conjunction December 21, 2020.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBMH7LE2o9s

    Lada outlines the general meaning of this conjunction in Aquarius and describes how she sees the new Age of Aquarius unfolding.

    It's not good for the NWO - their old control paradigms do not align with the new incoming energies.

    She briefly touches on the history of the Essenes & an old Cathar prophesy.

    She then does an entire reading of the Aquarian Age/next 2000 years using Aquarius as the chart Ascendant & then reading each house with the corresponding sign coming through that house.

    If you are unfamiliar with astrology, this video is fairly easy to follow along with as she talks more about the meaning of the energies & less about the technical stuff.

    As always, you can watch at a faster speed, 1.25 or 1.5 would suit this 2 hour video.
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