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    Did anyone ever read the sci-fi novel called "The Children of Men"?
    Chilling, but sadly also quite prescient in many ways.

    from wikipedia:
    "The Children of Men is a dystopian novel by English writer P. D. James, published in 1992. Set in England in 2021, it centres on the results of mass infertility. James describes a United Kingdom that is steadily depopulating and focuses on a small group of resisters who do not share the disillusionment of the masses.

    The book received very positive reviews from many critics such as Caryn James of The New York Times, who called it "wonderfully rich" and "a trenchant analysis of politics and power that speaks urgently".[1] The academic Alan Jacobs said, "Of all James’ novels, The Children of Men is probably the most pointed in its social criticism, certainly the deepest in its theological reflection."

    "The novel opens with the first entry in Theo's diary. It is the year 2021, but the novel's events have their origin in 1995, which is referred to as "Year Omega". In 1994, the sperm count of human males plummeted to zero, a feminist civil war broke out, and mankind now faces imminent extinction. The last people to be born are now called "Omegas". "A race apart", they enjoy various prerogatives."
    read more, particularly the bullet points of this book
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    Sue, I did read Children of Men. It made quite an impression on me. Written by P.D. James (as you mentioned), it was the only "science fiction" she ever wrote. She was a very prolific writer, but all her other books were mysteries. Interesting to me that she felt the need to write this stand alone dystopian book. It was made into a movie in 2006, I think. I didn't see it so I can't comment on whether or not it accurately followed her plot line.

    It's strange to me that "they" have waited this long to address the "overpopulation" issue. The book The Population Bomb was published in 1968, which was an extremely alarmist view of the toxic impact of too many humans on the planet. In my area of the US that book really had an impact on social mores and there was significant social pressure to limit the size of one's family to two children, and, probably for the first time in history, you were considered noble if you didn't have any children at all.

    Then gradually, perhaps over ten years, the social pressure disappeared and it became politically incorrect to even mention the word overpopulation. The population of the world has more than doubled since that time. If they want to cull us, why did they let the population double in fifty years?

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    Here is the video trailer 'Children Of Men'. I have not read the book, but I did see the movie.

    There is violence in parts of the film as it takes place in times of world chaos. It is one of those movies you never forget and I think well worth watching.

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/children_of_men




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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    There has been no explanation for the explosive growth in population that covers all the angles. Growth was a slow linear movement, with fits and starts along the way. In 1850 there was the first billion mark. By 1950, two billion. In the last 70 years it has exploded!
    Yes. For a long time, it looked linear, but it's not. It's a classic exponential curve. Here it is:


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    • We are NOT "overpopulated" for so many reasons ... (international) mismanagement is one of them!
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • We are NOT "overpopulated" for so many reasons ... (international) mismanagement is one of them!
    Well, here's the question which I posed yesterday.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I'm making an obvious, Emperor's New Clothes statement that population growth can't continue forever.

    I'd assert that should be self-evident to anyone with intelligence. (We're not going to be able to terraform, colonize and emigrate to other planets before things get out of control here.)

    Maybe 11.2 billion is sustainable. Maybe 15 billion — possibly. But 20 billion? 30 billion? 50 billion? More?
    Here's the question to anyone reading this — originally addressed to Tangri:
    • What do you think the limit is?
    There a subtlety here. This is a very emotionally-laden issue. We have to think clearly, if we can.

    Nothing I'm saying means that people have to be genocided, killed off, murdered, sterilized without their consent, or anything else that everyone reading this would agree would be immoral, unethical, or maybe just plain evil.

    I'm just saying there's a problem. If not today, then definitely sometime later.

    Look at the graph I posted for Ernie a couple of posts above. Where does that lead??

    You linked to the very interesting "Mouse Utopia": The Blackest Pill (James Corbett on the dangers of human overcrowding) thread.

    James Corbett's sarcasm sometimes borders on being unpleasant to listen to, and his video is heavily pointed and emotionally-persuasive — in itself a mark of propaganda. (Though Corbett would say it's positive propaganda, and he clearly cares deeply about the issue, imploring his followers not to buy into what he argues is hype.)

    It's not all that easy for most people to differentiate between the the facts he claims to report, and the way in which he presents his thesis.

    Overpopulation is a problem. It's so obvious. But as with David Icke's famous (and correct) Problem-Reaction-Solution thesis, the solutions we're presented with (whether we know they're being deployed or not) may not be the best ones, and may not be in our best interests. (English understatements intended. ).

    I don't trust the global controllers one tiny bit. Not for a second. But — overpopulation is still a problem. Just because the proposed solutions are unacceptable, that doesn't mean there's not an issue.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
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    Well, here's the question which I posed yesterday.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Maybe 11.2 billion is sustainable. Maybe 15 billion — possibly. But 20 billion? 30 billion? 50 billion? More?
    Way back when I was in college, I was studying non-linear equations and came across one that reflected population curves. It was a bit simplistic, with only a few base inputs (maybe 5 or 6 - it was long ago), but it was astonishingly accurate for almost any species. Out of curiosity, I ran humans on earth through the equation and I received an output that (IIRC) peaked at around 13 billion and then came down and settled at 11 billion. The delta between the peak and the settled number indicates overpopulation correcting itself naturally. In nature, this correction usually comes through disease, starvation, lack of live-able environment or increase in predatory species.

    I personally believe 11 billion is well sustainable, but we need a massive shift away from consumerism and extreme capitalism as we know it. I know many people don't want to hear that - they don't want change, which is ubiquitous; as a manager, the biggest thing I had to learn to manage was people's resistance to change - even if the change was demonstrably for the better.

    I'm not advocating communism, as that system with its top down control structure also is not the answer.
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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
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    Well, here's the question which I posed yesterday.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ...

    Maybe 11.2 billion is sustainable. Maybe 15 billion — possibly. But 20 billion? 30 billion? 50 billion? More?
    Way back when I was in college, I was studying non-linear equations and came across one that reflected population curves. It was a bit simplistic, with only a few base inputs (maybe 5 or 6 - it was long ago), but it was astonishingly accurate for almost any species. Out of curiosity, I ran humans on earth through the equation and I received an output that (IIRC) peaked at around 13 billion and then came down and settled at 11 billion. The delta between the peak and the settled number indicates overpopulation correcting itself naturally. In nature, this correction usually comes through disease, starvation, lack of live-able environment or increase in predatory species.

    I personally believe 11 billion is well sustainable, but we need a massive shift away from consumerism and extreme capitalism as we know it. I know many people don't want to hear that - they don't want change, which is ubiquitous; as a manager, the biggest thing I had to learn to manage was people's resistance to change - even if the change was demonstrably for the better.

    I'm not advocating communism, as that system with its top down control structure also is not the answer.
    Yes, thanks. The real issue may be
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    In nature, this correction usually comes through disease, starvation, lack of live-able environment or increase in predatory species.
    That's NOT the way we want to achieve stability. It'd involve an unimaginable amount of suffering. (With humans, "predatory species" = viruses and bacteria, very real and serious ones.)

    Somehow, we need to head that off at the pass, and do it in a way where the entire human population is on board with the plan, fully understands the issues, and there's no covert, Machiavellian high-level strategy to cull humanity by actually killing or sterilizing people without their knowledge or consent.

    No way can that be easy, but it has to be possible. One problem, of course, is disease and poverty — as in Africa and India — because large families are seen as a remedy for that. So it's very likely than in any equitable and ethical solution, that has to be addressed first. And again, that's extremely hard to do.

    Here's another Emperor's New Clothes observation. Our entire world is in a huge mess — almost broken (if you see it all from a high-altitude viewpoint). That's probably what the ETs think, and that's not meant as a joke.

    The "Great Reset" is no solution, but that doesn't mean there are no possible solutions available. And to seek solutions, one first has to look at the problem with eyes wide open. Very few may be doing that.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Somehow, we need to head that off at the pass, and do it in a way where the entire human population is on board with the plan, fully understands the issues, and there's no covert, Machiavellian high-level strategy to cull humanity by actually killing or sterilizing people without their knowledge or consent.
    TPTB appear to be very knowledgeable in the methods of behavioral change. Look how they have easily created masking and distancing in entire populations! Also look how easily they have created wrath and division and perversions.

    If we could just start with a humane plan and implement that strongly through the media, entertainment industries, etc., I truly believe the population would willingly and even eagerly start to change their habits as directed.

    "They" need to tell us what to do. How to start. Bandwagons and shunning are powerful motivators, as has been demonstrated, but so too is the perception of actually making a difference. I think if a perception was instilled by the "influencers", along that direction, it would be followed enthusiastically.

    Just 2 examples that pop to mind are the Victory Gardens and the war effort campaign for women to step in. (Rosie the Riveter) Folks felt good about doing these things.

    People really do want to help in their own small ways.
    Humane direction would be a good start.
    Publicize the problem heavily.
    Treat all with dignity, and ask us all to help and pitch in.
    I think that would result in fairly immediate results.
    Maybe the problem is how TPTB view the rest of humanity?
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    I contend, that like the election laws being contested in the USA and the entrenched corruption throughout the halls of power, it is the manipulation of the monetary system that exacerbates the situation. The problems in this world are multi-pronged but they stem from systemic corruption of all our institutions. Moreover, not only is there systemic corruption but the captains of industry, along with influential players in government and media and banking, conspire together in closed door yearly meetings. It is at those meetings that this handful of people, numbering a few thousand, collude to implement their agenda, without the consent or knowledge of the citizens of the world.

    That has to stop because it is treason to all their respective nations.

    The for-profit industries that we rely on must not be dominated by the savvy and cunning from wall street and industry. Areas such as housing, health care, education cannot be allowed to be dominated by those who wish to become rich. These are the essentials of life, the bare necessities, they cannot be leveraged for gain.

    But the most important thing is energy, it always has been. We must expend public resources in an effort to discover a new source of energy. Without it we are playing a zero sum game. Everything else takes a back seat to this consideration. With a new source of energy conducive and flexible enough for our modern age most of our problems would find easy solutions.

    But before that can happen, we all must understand the nature of the world we live in today. It is rife with systemic corruption through and through. As this corrupt system is exposed, assuming there is no higher, off-world connection to this saga, the masses will be educated about so many things. Only after all of the revelations can the groundswell begin in earnest.

    Until then the best we can do is lay the groundwork for that eventual day.
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    I have quoted Mark Buchanan’s Ubiquity, The Science of History… or Why the World is Simpler Than We Think on a number of occasions. It is based on the fact that you can pile up grains of sand or other particles up to a point when a landslide, small or large, will occur to establish a new equilibrium.

    If we apply this process to the issue of overpopulation, then we are dealing with a catastrophe that has long been imminent, having been announced for four centuries, but so far has failed to materialize. The earth’s population has more than tripled just in my lifetime, yet in the 17th century, some people were having a problem. How have we come to nearly 8 billion and counting? Because circumstances have changed, or rather our perceptions have changed. The world has got bigger; the western world largely stopped growing, while the east has grown to similar levels on a larger scale. Like other empires before it, America has become small on the world stage. This is the underlying reason for perceived overpopulation at this point in time: China has grown so much bigger.


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    Here's a slightly abridged snippet from a conversation I had with Bill in the chatroom earlier:

    Bill I'm just pro-Gaia. I'd love to see a spiritually and technologically advanced human population which is far smaller, living in balance with nature. I just don't want 6 or 7 billion people to be murdered.

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    Um, over-population. This whole premise never seems to take into account the incarnation or re-incarnation of souls. Without that being factored in it's almost a non-topic, or perhaps better stated, a discussion that can't really get going without that being on the table.

    From a practical and ecological perspective we have been needing to do things radically differently for EVER to include utilising and practising more rigourously free-energy models for power and a heightened psychic sense for communication. And most certainly to stop over producing. Over-production is the problem, not that there are too many people.

    But I'm open to being persuaded otherwise.

    And, no, murdering (or sacrificing to nefarious demonic entities) several billion people isn't the way to go. And it's extraordinarily unlikely that north of 7 billion souls have opted to be sacrificed. That, if true, would 'jump the shark' for me. Just not plausible.

    Bill Today at 13:19

    I'd say the overall problem (resulting in just about everything else which is a problem) is that we've become disconnected from nature. It's another indicator of a degenerating, degrading global culture.

    In Ecuador, like the Native Americans in North America several hundred years ago, the Incas lived in perfect balance. Now, I go for a hike past two or three smallholding farmers just for half an hour and I come back every time with bits of plastic trash and a soda bottle or two which I collect to be recycled. The locals don't care at all, or notice at all.

    They can't see it (and there's not a lot of it) — but it's there, hidden in the ditches and hedges, all the time unless I pick it up. That's what's changed, all over the world.

    Tintin Today at 13:23

    ...and it's incredibly awful. It's totally a removal from that [nature] balance - a spiritual illness that seems to have been either embraced whole-heartedly or foisted very cunningly (perhaps both) on the human population. That's a, or maybe even THE pandemic.

    Bill Today at 13:24

    Yes, absolutely :handshake2:
    Very few people can see it. Not the whole thing.

    Tintin Today at 13:32

    It's an experiment that must be being undertaken right now by White Hat elements: what if by concentrating those psychic dark spirit removal techniques on those who are wielding too much influence and power in the world, and they can be successfully removed (evil spirits quarantined) then, BOOM, we might have solved this practically (literally practically) and spiritually almost overnight.

    That to me seems to be perhaps the starting point to begin a different type of reset from the one being put into play right now.

    And perhaps the only way to get the ball rolling back towards that balance [with nature]. So, my argument may rest as well on there being an over-population of negative spiritual entities and NOT an over-population of vessels/people.
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    I do not think there is an upper limit to the carrying capacity of a planet. Not when science and technology are considered. But the trajectory of this world is another matter altogether. That is because we do not use our science properly and we exploit our technology for monetary gain. We call it capitalism but that is not what it is in this world.

    In this world it is about capturing resources, and holding them for ransom. It is also about leveraging positions and monopolizing sectors of the economy. It is also about hoarding information and securing ownership of intellectual property, and destroying competition.

    This world separated wealth from value and substituted work for living. We call it working for a living, that is what it might once have been...now it is actually merely living to work.

    We have created an atmosphere of animosity and a stratified method of success based on criteria not conducive to the whole. And we act as though there are many minds and independent thought some are blessed to capitalize on, while most others are doomed to be capitalized (exploited) by.

    We do not understand the nature of our collective.

    In such a scenario as we are now experiencing, yes, there is a limit. The limit is not because of the planet, the number of people or science. It is this system of exploitation that squanders the most important of humanity's resources, the individual.

    It is a well known fact, for example, that small business, driven by the entrepreneur, creates the most new jobs by far. Yet our system discourages new business and the playing field is slanted greatly against them.

    This is the same for the poor who, in this world, are penalized for their state of poverty. They pay a premium for services that others with greater incomes enjoy at a discount and sometimes even for free. This is the squandering of the human resource and is why this system has an upper limit.


    To reverse the trajectory of this system it is imperative to free the vast majority of citizens, empower them in a system that focuses on living and not working, and one that recognizes the wealth inherent in the diversity of the human family - and their capacity for innovation. Throttle the vast majority, force them by rote from birth to death to work long hours for little pay wastes that capacity.

    The capacity of this catastrophically flawed system is probably around ten billion, if a number must be stated.

    But considering how it could be, there is no upper limit because humanity will always 'McGiver' a fix if the system allows it to manifest - ours does not.
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    Quote Posted by ZenBaller (here)
    I haven't been able to understand the benefit of the depopulation for the cabal. It seems to be that humanity is a lot more valuable in big numbers. The reason is that whatever low 4d entities are controlling the planet the past millenia, do not care about money or material productions. That is a goal of human ambition and selfishness which is much lower in their power hierarchy.

    It's all about feeding off the energy of humans, through lower emotions like fear, anger, hate, guilt, jealousy etc., pretty much anything the ego thrives on. When someone feels all those things, he/she radiates that energy. Where do you think it is going? Someone "eats" it to put it blatantly. The same way we hurt, kill each other and animals. It gives that temporary feeling of completeness, until the ego wakes up hungry again to repeat the process.

    That's why the whole societal system is based on fear mongering, trying to make humans always feel limited and incomplete. That's why there are ritualistic events that create mass fear and desperation (9/11, Covid, death of certain celebrities etc.). It's like a feast for them.

    Why would they want to depopulate humanity? The more "food" they have, the more chaos, the better for them.

    Good points!

    It seems to me that both the virus and the vaccine play a role in depopulation. The virus isn't doing much to damage children but it is hitting those with comorbidities, such as diabetes, heart disease, and immune-challenged disorders, so it's taking out the people who are the biggest financial drag on society. We always knew the Baby Boomers would create a financial drag when they retired en masse, so this virus could conceivably be designed to correct some of that drag. That is if it was created in a lab via gain of function (GoF) research, which (in my opinion) it was.

    Enter the vaccine, which we're hearing may result in temporary infertility. That will result in a population decline, but they don't just want the population, in general, to decline -- they want specific groups to breed less, most notably blacks. Again, just my opinion, but from the start of the virus, we heard how it targeted blacks, and now, we're hearing--because of that---blacks should be prioritized for the vaccine.

    It's almost as though the past few years of trying to make everyone believe systemic racism was afoot was in preparation to put blacks first when vaccinating. I hate to think that, but it seems to be possible.

    So, they don't want to reduce the population of all groups, but they are targeting the "undesirables" in our society, the aged, the weak, and certain races.

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    I've been reading a fascinating, if chilliing site recently. The work of a former Christian Scientist, the author claims TPTB aka The Progeny of Jove, are working towards surviving an impending planetary cataclysm. One part of that plan has been allowing a population explosion in order to harvest the resulting leap in knowledge creation via the internet. However, once that harvest has been reaped, they don't want any of us to survive into the new order they will establish after they emerge from the caverns they prepared in Colorado.

    So there's artful distribution of spent nuclear waste, pandemics,

    https://amallulla.org/depopulation/

    Copy and paste is disabled so I can't quote directly. Taster attached, but there's a lot of interesting work on the website which involves decoding the Georgia Guidestones, the recent Disney 'Tomorrowland' movie and an alternative take on history and religion spanning thousands of years.

    Its not a cheery read mind!

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    If you don't have time to watch this whole video, watch it from the 16:00 time mark to the 16:45 time mark. This doctor says that the few people who get very sick with covid mostly have low levels of vitamin D. She also seems to think they want to use the vaccine to kill us to lower the population of the world.


    Watch it fast. I clicked on one video here and a note came up that said, "This video doesn't exist".

    Dr Lee Merrit Interview
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...ds&form=QBVDMH

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...1&&FORM=VRDGAR

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mPIomjWwd4

    https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/re...-medicine.html

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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Somehow, we need to head that off at the pass, and do it in a way where the entire human population is on board with the plan, fully understands the issues, and there's no covert, Machiavellian high-level strategy to cull humanity by actually killing or sterilizing people without their knowledge or consent.
    TPTB appear to be very knowledgeable in the methods of behavioral change. Look how they have easily created masking and distancing in entire populations! Also look how easily they have created wrath and division and perversions.

    If we could just start with a humane plan and implement that strongly through the media, entertainment industries, etc., I truly believe the population would willingly and even eagerly start to change their habits as directed.

    "They" need to tell us what to do. How to start. Bandwagons and shunning are powerful motivators, as has been demonstrated, but so too is the perception of actually making a difference. I think if a perception was instilled by the "influencers", along that direction, it would be followed enthusiastically.

    Just 2 examples that pop to mind are the Victory Gardens and the war effort campaign for women to step in. (Rosie the Riveter) Folks felt good about doing these things.

    People really do want to help in their own small ways.
    Humane direction would be a good start.
    Publicize the problem heavily.
    Treat all with dignity, and ask us all to help and pitch in.
    I think that would result in fairly immediate results.
    Maybe the problem is how TPTB view the rest of humanity?
    Yes 🙌🏼
    I fear they view the rest of humanity as easily expendable and irrelevant. They seem to forget we’re all caretakers of the planet and nobody gave them the sole rights to say what happens and how to go about it. And we all need to stand up and remind them of that fact, but also stand up and admit the changes start with ourselves and how we’re living and how totally unsustainable it actually is.

    And this is where it’s going wrong, the few are deciding for the majority without even bothering to ask us to get involved.
    I’m pretty sure we would do amazing things if all 7.8 billion of us was given the opportunity to have a collective voice and save the world together.

    Instead where fooled into voting for the left or right wing of the same demonic bird and treated like idiots.
    They treat us like idiots so we act accordingly.
    We have lost the ability to live in a way that’s true to our natures. Maybe because corporate greed has pushed us into an endless cycle of greed and waste and destruction.

    It’s them that have created the monster humanity has become but now they want to destroy it.

    I think they’ve seen the virus card has played out well for them so far, my bets are on this carrying on indefinitely or letting us just get enough of our freedoms back eventually before Covids cousin rolling into town.

    I seen this recently and thought is this next up? See how far they can roll out the Great Reset with this current show and if not, next up...

    SPARS 2025-

    https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/...-communication
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    hope this isn't in the wrong thread and i apologise if its featured elsewhere on this forum,

    This letter from “Jacob R” appeared on Rixon Stewart’s The Truthseeker.co.uk Sept 1, 2020 in response to my (Henry Makow) article, “Is there any limit to US debt?”
    Since the email was traced to an IP address in Surrey B.C. However, IMO, this is a sleight of a hand. They changed the address. In my opinion, this is Jacob Rothschild lifting the veil.
    Ignore at your own expense.
    Jacob R on August 31st 2020 4.51 pm
    Dear Henry, you really do go too far when you say things like,
    “The criminal cabal in charge has been producing this “money” and stuffing its pockets and those of its friends. Is there any limit to the amount they will produce? If the “debt” doubled to $70 trillion, would it make any difference?”

    You cannot say our cartel or cabal is “criminal”.
    Don’t you see we actually own all of the law makers, and besides whatever we do is quite above any of the laws which apply to the common people.

    As for stuffing our pockets, the families which make up our network of central banks throughout the world are in fact the main power brokers in the world.
    That is our right.
    Your governments demand every year more than they can afford with one deficit budget after another, always saying that this or that is necessary. By indulging them we simply acquire more power and control. It is called “ownership”.

    What are we to do, give them our own gold or assests in their borrowing process and never see it again? That is one of the reasons why we have fiat money. It can be made out of nothing and we can make as much as your governments want, so long as they do not spend it on things against our interests or endeavors too far out of our control. Also, we do not simply “give” it too them or there would be hyperinflation all of the time and no confidence in any fiat currency. Rather we “lend” it to them such that if we ever called in all the loans it would bankrupt every government which has been borrowing for years from our banks. Furthermore, we are able to charge interest on what we lend, which usually sustains the value of our own holdings in compensation for the masses getting all of their free stuff, for so many generations and not paying us back for the exercise of our god-like powers in being able to create something out of nothing.

    You have to realize that with the development of our central banking systems all over the world, and particularly through global development lending and our investments in places like China, the economy of the world has grown exponentially over the last 100 years. Presently, the US dollar cannot serve the global needs and is being phased out not with a whimper but with the bang of a mushroom cloud in the creation of unlimited trillions. For decades we tried to hide what is now called “the shadow economy” where we worked with the US Fed to create vast amounts of cash out of nothing, to facilitate both business and political interests particularly in developing and other irascible nations around the world. It made little difference to inflation, as the money seldom made it back to the US or to Europe and it usually came back to our banks anyway.

    Since 9/11 when the loss of some of those trillions were being investigated, we have been more open as to the importance of always having enough money on hand to do whatever we want, and quite frankly even if we were to make the US dollar debt to us $70 trillion as you say, what we have found is that people around the world, despite complaining about our alleged abuses of power, still keep demanding the stuff. It is very similar to the heroin industry, which grew out of our venture in China in the 19th century during the opium trade, the more you produce the more people get addicted to the stuff. With our latest batch of 6 trillion, everyone holding dollars, wants their value to be retained, yet in places like China, India, and Russia what they complain about is the unfair power the US is able to wield around the world by being able to draw so much money from our banks and spend it the way they do, particularly on their military and as a political weapon to serve their interests and those of our families.

    In this respect, these nations fortunately do not excessively complain against our families controlling the money supply, but rather they tend to focus on the various favoured governments which appear to direct the government spending and allocations. They complain mainly against the US and for the most part just about every other nation in the world has agreed to take that power from the US, and allow our central banks to create a new world currency, and to be their banker. It will require, however, a central government to allocate the expenditures when the borrowing from us will be necessary, and of course to enforce trade with this currency on a global scale that central government will need independent military backing. For a good number of decades now the governments of over 190 nations have agreed with this direction and the necessity of there being a one-world government to ensure the necessary financial stability. They are all nations which are part of our web which either have a firmly established central bank in our control or are completely indebted to us for all of our loans from institutions such as the IMF and the World Bank.

    The engineering of these new arrangements, which some refer to as the New World Order, however, could not be accomplished by a fiat like we create money. Various nations competing with one another for resources or territories, will not agree just to a global currency, or a global banking system akin to the US Fed, without a central global government for financial enforcement of trade and regulation, and even if they do not agree to a world government, quite frankly places like China and Russia will only continue to feel the abuse of our powers being exercised by favoured nations like the US, the UK and Israel.

    Then apart from differences between the various governments who are in our direct or indirect control, there are the masses of ordinary people in the world who still believe they have a say in such affairs, which are in fact many steps removed from them. Such a world government which our families have envisioned, will have to give them something in exchange for giving up their local and national controls over trade and commerce. In this respect we have exercised our powers of creating hundreds of billions mainly of fiat-created dollars and “loans” to fund not only the UN but also all of its Agendas, to provide a credible, urgent and existential justifications for the necessity of a one-world government.

    To supplant many of alleged “sovereign” of nations particularly in the West, it has been necessary for us to be very generous allowing the borrowing and indebtedness to us to become virtually astronomical. As the governments of the nations have become subservient to us so also are the people of those nations. Whether our sustainability measures are actually necessary or not to cure the problems, like global warming or inequality, which issues our NGO’s, government agencies, media and corporate minions have developed and featured in their various campaigns, what really matters most to us is that there is some real substance to there being a one-world government. We need all the support we can garner through our efforts to convince people everywhere of the “necessity” of a one-world government.

    Alternatively, if the people reject our proposal most of the governments in the West are at the mercy of us calling in our loans and bankrupting them, whereas the other nations in which we have less control are at our mercy and discretion of continuing in the present system with the dominance of the US and the very precarious US dollar which in any case has had its day, in our view.

    Of course the Covid pandemic is a plandemic, and we, through our various think tanks and networks, have meticulously planned it over decades. In order for all of the major changes we have planned, including the big one for us of our global bank and one-world currency, the people have to become totally subservient. This is much more difficult to achieve in nations where the people think they have a semblance of freedom, and that is why the governments in these nations have been so extreme with the fear and control tactics we have ordained.

    It has been mainly the economic independence of most of the common people which makes them so unruly in these nations, and likely apt to opt to support the sovereignty of their own nations and local control, which is the main obstacle to our plans, and precisely why the severe economic restraints have been necessary under the guise of the pandemic.

    If the people do not comply, undoubtedly a second wave will come their way, and with that food shortages, and complete government domination in order to usher in all of our proposed changes.

    One of our most trusted agents who can see the light for a much brighter future, Karl Schwab of the World Economic Forum, has invited more people waking up to the facts of our virtually compete monetary control, to join in with the Great Reset, and to welcome in our New World Order, and our continued running of the world, but on a much vaster, greener, smarter, more equal and more centrally-controlled scale, mainly by our families which have served you so well all throughout the 20th century until now.

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    Hello Bill,

    "I'm just saying there's a problem. If not today, then definitely sometime later"
    So lets say you have a sack of rice. The problem is that you eat everyday and sooner or later your rice will ran out. Because of that what you wanted to do is stop eating so that your rice wont ran out. What I would do if i am in your shoes is to look for rice now while there is stock and I have time to. The equivalent to population growth and since you asked "what decisions should be made"? Find ways to grow more food in a small space in a shorter period. Look for more living space and growing areas. underground, under the sea in the air. And what's wonderful with more people is that there are more heads to think of new ways. One head coming up with one brilliant idea a huge number of hands putting it into action.

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    The idea we are overpopulated or that the earth can't provide for than 500,000 is bogus, and not just narrow minded but when pushed by those wanting it with the money to make it happen it becomes criminal in my opinion!
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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