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    Default Re: No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time

    Interesting, As a pesceterian I may consider it.
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    I would not eat anything grown in a lab but especially grown in a lab in Singapore. Where I live if animals are not taken (deer) they will simply starve to death the following year without enough to eat. I would rather cull a deer than watch them starve. I just would not eat lab meat.
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    As a (non judgemental) Vegan myself, I think that anything that may help reduce the consumption/suffering of animals is a good thing. If it helps some meat eaters who are considering reducing their meat intake and would find this lab meat useful (and hopefully tasty) in facilitating that, then is its a good thing. Personally myself, I'm trying my best to eat as naturally and wholesomely as God/Nature intended - though I'm aware that's virtually impossible these days lol! It's a bit 'frankenstein' to me but then I'm led to believe (I think!) that here in Canada, there's been genetically modified salmon for a few years now. I expect there'll be a lot of interest.

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    Default Re: No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time

     
    One thing that I think should be considered, is what is considered "life"? Lab meat is alive - it has to be to grow, but is it "life"?

    I read an article once on how researchers studying some degenerative brain diseases (I think Alzheimer's specifically), were growing brain tissue in a lab to conduct their research with. The eventually found that that if they grew a large enough sample, the brain tissue would start producing brainwaves. Was it "thinking"? "Dreaming"? It definitely gave the researches some cause for concern and rethinking what they assumed to be a completely unobjectional act.


    I personally am not eager to chomp down on lab grown meat as a replacement (but I'll probably try it if given the chance), but I suspect, like with GMOs, one won't necessarily get the luxury of having the meat labelled as such - for example in "chicken" nuggets, meat sauces, etc. so will end up eating it anyway ...
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    Why not go the whole hog?

    "If you’re feeling a bit peckish, why not have a nibble on meat grown from your own body? Scientists and designers from the US have created a ‘grow-your-own’ steak kit, which uses human cells and blood to pose a question to the cultured meat industry. The Ouroboros Steak, named after the ancient Egyptian snake that eats itself, can be grown from cells scraped from the inside of your cheek and fed serum from old blood".

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/18/you-c...lism-13615745/
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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Why not go the whole hog?

    "If you’re feeling a bit peckish, why not have a nibble on meat grown from your own body? Scientists and designers from the US have created a ‘grow-your-own’ steak kit, which uses human cells and blood to pose a question to the cultured meat industry. The Ouroboros Steak, named after the ancient Egyptian snake that eats itself, can be grown from cells scraped from the inside of your cheek and fed serum from old blood".

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/18/you-c...lism-13615745/
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    Default Re: No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time

    Soilent Green?

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    Soylent Green? considering how 2020 has been, some potential looming massive food shortage that may be incoming, that movie is looking rather prophetic ... someone should do a remake

    Anyway ...
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    Default Re: No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time

    As Eric Cartman said in his final monologue in the South Park episode "Let Them Eat Goo"...

    Quote I just didn't want my food (real meat) to change.

    School cafeteria meat is just processed crap that comes in a box,
    and this (plant based meat) is... just processed crap that comes in a box.

    I don't have a problem with it. All I wanted was to be able to eat the same garbage I always have, and this is definitely garbage.

    And hey, if it happens to be more ethical and sustainable, well, I guess I'm fine with that, too.

    So, you see, guys? There was actually no reason to protest! We were actually all on the same page all the time!

    At least we learned that freedom of speech truly doesn't matter!

    Come on, let's eat!

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I would not eat anything grown in a lab but especially grown in a lab in Singapore. Where I live if animals are not taken (deer) they will simply starve to death the following year without enough to eat. I would rather cull a deer than watch them starve. I just would not eat lab meat.
    Me too...
    the 'no kill' part of the marketing is just a front/ploy. The product might be edible and tasty but like all synthetic or overly processed forms of protein I don't believe it would be truly good for you.

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    Two things occur to me about growing meat. Nutritional integrity and the other on its heels is the Top/Down Control of Production of Everything, so that by withholding food production at the Top and outlawing animal production from the Bottom, their perfect Agenda for Genocidal Starvation is more easily accomplished.

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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Why not go the whole hog?

    "If you’re feeling a bit peckish, why not have a nibble on meat grown from your own body? Scientists and designers from the US have created a ‘grow-your-own’ steak kit, which uses human cells and blood to pose a question to the cultured meat industry. The Ouroboros Steak, named after the ancient Egyptian snake that eats itself, can be grown from cells scraped from the inside of your cheek and fed serum from old blood".

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/18/you-c...lism-13615745/
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    Quote Posted by Bodhicee (here)
    The product might be edible and tasty but like all synthetic or overly processed forms of protein I don't believe it would be truly good for you.
    And some would say (myself included) that meat isn't truly good for you...
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    Default Re: No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time

    Do you think something grown in a lab could possibly be better than meat that I fed and grew on my ranch? I suppose it all comes down to what you want to put in your body....synthetic or natural! I will continue to prefer the natural! I know many people who prefer not to eat meat at all. I am not one of them! I need the protein and ammo acids I get from it. Because I live on a working ranch I need those ammo acids and mineral to keep my muscles strong. I grow my fruit and vegetables, use no pesticides and keep everything as organic as possible, and I grow my own meat!

    But everyone has to follow their own path!
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    Mod note from Bill:

    Folks, I just deleted four posts that don't really belong on this thread, and an impassioned mudfight was beginning that wasn't warranted.

    This thread isn't about the benefits or otherwise — or ethics, or otherwise — of eating meat. It's about the newly announced innovation of lab-grown meat, and what that might mean for us all in various ways if that were to become a common manufacturing process.

    There are other threads on which to discuss (e.g.) veganism, which are easily found. One of Avalon's many important and valuable threads is Akasha's All Things Vegan!, started in 2015, running to 42 pages and 831 posts. I'd suggest that any discussion about eating meat or otherwise, wherever it comes from, might more properly belong there.


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    Dr Mercola wades in.
    Will You Eat Cultured Meat Grown From Human Cells?


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/embed/GZEVlo7lFKl2

    Story at-a-glance
    • The fake meat industry poses tremendous risks to global health as ultraprocessed foods have been robustly linked to obesity, ill health and early death. It also threatens global food security through the patenting of food.
    • Imitation meats are ultraprocessed foods as they’re manufactured from start to finish and typically involve the use of man-made ingredients.
    • Once living animals are eliminated and replaced with patented plant-derived and cell-based lab-grown alternatives, private companies will effectively control the food supply in its entirety, and they will be the ones profiting from it rather than farmers.
    • Meat grown from human cells harvested from the inside of your cheek, which are then grown in a broth made from blood extracted from unborn calf fetuses or expired human blood, may eventually become available.
    • Start-ups are working on or have already launched meatless soy-based burgers and lab-grown steaks, shrimp, pork and chicken.
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