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  • I'd never take a vaccination of any kind, not ever.

    34 52.31%
  • I'd never take the covid vaccine, but might take one for a much more serious virus like smallpox.

    23 35.38%
  • I'll wait to see what the covid vaccine side-effects are. I may take it if it all seems safe.

    5 7.69%
  • I'd reluctantly take the covid vaccine. The penalties for not taking it may be too much of a hassle.

    2 3.08%
  • I'm comfortable taking the vaccine. I feel the overall benefits are likely to outweigh any risks.

    1 1.54%
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    Default How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    I know this forum has many vaccine related discussions. But in light of the fact that the UK has given the go-head to roll out vaccines as early as next week, I've taken the liberty of starting another vaccine question.

    How many of you ARE willing and comfortable to have the vaccine? My question isn't about who will or who won't and why we won't. But actually about who WILL and why?

    How might you reassure those of us who are scared/worried?

    Thank you and lots of love to you all
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    Hello 🤠
    SMS received today:

    The businesses are reopening and more people will pass each other. To keep the epidemic under control, the Ministry of Health recommends that you download the TousAntiCovid application now https://bonjour.tousanticovid.gouv.fr More than 10 million French people already use it. They are alerted earlier in case of contact with the virus and have access to a test.

    I'm against the vaccine so what or what not to do ...

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    This is all over the news here in UK amongst the economy imploding...brain wash...Etc

    Boris stated that in UK we’re the 1st in the world for mass vaccinations, but not mandatory.

    I won’t be taken it.

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    The very sad thing is that folk will do anything to get their lives back to normal, so they can travel, associate, and are accepting this ‘martial law’ fiasco to just try to get on with their lives, despite realistic advice to the contrary.
    This controlling mechanism has to stop, people must be given choices, not threats, and take away the policing of our country by globalist agendas.
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    For me not a chance! But I know quite a few that would not hesitate to take it, and in fact they are even parroting/preaching how beneficial it would be (based on mainstream media), most of these people are using the same argument of being selfish in not taking a vaccine, using lots of emotion to address the issue, sorry but I can't deal with that mimimi... I guess we will all see when they starting drop like flies.

    I truly wish the best for all conscious living beings, and I can just hope for them to see what it is all about in a timely manner and act accordingly.
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    This can be looked at from different angles. Giving the world a choice for the covid vaccinne could also serve to keep the "to vax or not to vax" fights going and reinforce divide and conquer. I can see them doing this. We'll see shortly.
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    This may have been a fashion ahead of its time.


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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    I will hold back as long as possible, as there are a lot of unknowns

    - Will my Employer coerce me
    - Will it be required to travel
    - If I have immunity from last March will I be exempted (unlikely)

    I would be more inclined to have the non rna version if I get a choice.

    The interesting thing is that they will start giving them to vulnerable people, in care homes + workers there, Diabetics, and other deemed vulnerable groups.

    If it has terrible side effects, stories will start circulating before the mass of society is offered this.

    So if say, an 80 year old with dementia dies, at some point after receiving the Flu vax, & the Covid vax, will they be able to hide this in the numbers?

    If the Vaccinations start before it becomes apparent what methods are going to be used to coerce people to take them, will more people hesitate?

    Will the Herd Immunity argument (Barrington Declaration) win the day before mass vaccination?
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    I will not be taking it. I work from home so I don't think my job will be an issue. I suppose I will not be travelling much as I suspect a non vaccinated person will soon not be allowed on airplanes. I would however like to be tested for antibodies as I am pretty sure I have had the virus. I am sure that will not exempt me.
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    I suggest we look at it this way. Among the first to be vaccinated in any country will be doctors and health care workers. It should be easy to determine very quickly what happens to this category. One would expect they are being given something harmless, i.e. no unusual pathologies. One would expect they are being given something efficacious: less covid than previously. So just ask for what “the doctor ordered”, you should be OK.

    Then there is the conspiracy version: there are several different vaccines, one for some, others for others. If anything happens to someone who has been vaccinated, the case is going to be milked for all its worth. Just as some covid deaths are due to other causes, some vaccine-related issues will also be due to other causes such as, you were given the wrong vaccine.

    In other words, it is just more of the same: we find ourselves in a cloud of probabilities, and nothing ever breaks down to an actual fact. Or if they do, they are promptly built back up into a statistic, where probability/improbability rules. However, a probability cloud is just a neat pseudo-scientific term to describe a fudge factor: votes are reversible behind the scenes, and so are assassins, warmongers, you name it.

    Science has been grappling for decades with the effect of the viewer on any experiment. It has come to the point where the only scientific way to make this scientific theory work is… to bang on the table until things come out right.


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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    Not for me... I'll pass
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    I work at a school, so I suspect they'll make it mandatory at some point.

    I spose i could quit and find new employment - easier said than done at the moment.

    But who's to say my new place of employment doesn't make it mandatory as well eventually?

    And even if I avoid all that, I'm sure that tptb will make it just about impossible for a regular Joe to avoid the bloody thing: people that travel on airplanes and buses and trains...people that want to attend concerts and sporting events, and so on.

    If this virus was a deliberate thing, then you can be sure that these people have contingency plans upon contingency plans. I'm afraid we're like rats stuck in a trap. One will avoid vaccination for a while, but at some point it will likely catch up with you. I'm sorry to sound so negative about it, but that's how I see it playing out.

    So unless you live on a farm in Ecuador, like Bill, or are retired and don't have to move about too much, or are a millionaire hermit, it's going to be difficult to avoid
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I will not be taking it. I work from home so I don't think my job will be an issue. I suppose I will not be travelling much as I suspect a non vaccinated person will soon not be allowed on airplanes. I would however like to be tested for antibodies as I am pretty sure I have had the virus. I am sure that will not exempt me.
    I'm thinking/hoping it should be possible to have (volunteer) a Covid test before getting on a plane if our backs are against the wall!

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    While I am not an anti vaxer by any stretch, I would certainly want to see some “long term” clinical data on any vaccine before I considered taking it.
    Last edited by Forever; 2nd December 2020 at 20:23.

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    Quote Posted by Bassplayer1 (here)
    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I will not be taking it. I work from home so I don't think my job will be an issue. I suppose I will not be travelling much as I suspect a non vaccinated person will soon not be allowed on airplanes. I would however like to be tested for antibodies as I am pretty sure I have had the virus. I am sure that will not exempt me.
    I'm thinking/hoping it should be possible to have (volunteer) a Covid test before getting on a plane if our backs are against the wall!
    I won't even take a Covid-19 test, never mind taking their vaccine.

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    There has never been a successful m RNA vaccine brought to market. The mRNA technology with Moderna was developed in conjunction with DARPA and is not standard vaccine science. It may have some applications for a targeted condition that exists (i.e. cancer), but I have seen NOTHING to explain why it is being used with COVID, instead of a less lethal version of the virus. With this new technology once the RNA instructions are inserted into your DNA, a "copy" of the COVID spike will be produced by your own cells, triggering (in theory), the production of antibodies. I cannot find any literature discussing when or how this response will be ended - will your body continue to manufacture COVID spikes indefinitely?

    As a cancer survivor, I will NOT be taking any vaccine that alters DNA function. Also, the standard protocol for developing a vaccine requires a bit longer observation time (3 years vs. 3 months), than is being observed. I find it ironic that health care workers (whom I believe are complicit in perpetrating an exaggerated fear narrative regarding Covid), will now be the guinea pigs for a new experimental virus. They all know enough to be very, very nervous.

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    Quote Posted by Deborah (ahamkara) (here)
    There has never been a successful m RNA vaccine brought to market. The mRNA technology with Moderna was developed in conjunction with DARPA and is not standard vaccine science. It may have some applications for a targeted condition that exists (i.e. cancer), but I have seen NOTHING to explain why it is being used with COVID, instead of a less lethal version of the virus. With this new technology once the RNA instructions are inserted into your DNA, a "copy" of the COVID spike will be produced by your own cells, triggering (in theory), the production of antibodies. I cannot find any literature discussing when or how this response will be ended - will your body continue to manufacture COVID spikes indefinitely?

    As a cancer survivor, I will NOT be taking any vaccine that alters DNA function. Also, the standard protocol for developing a vaccine requires a bit longer observation time (3 years vs. 3 months), than is being observed. I find it ironic that health care workers (whom I believe are complicit in perpetrating an exaggerated fear narrative regarding Covid), will now be the guinea pigs for a new experimental virus. They all know enough to be very, very nervous.
    Perhaps they maybe given a placebo? Whilst everyone else is sent into the unknown ...

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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    Quote Posted by Forever (here)
    While I am not an anti vaxer by any stretch, I would certainly want to see some “long term” clinical data on any vaccine before I considered taking it.
    THIS ^

    So UK is First in the World with vaccine and Liverpool is First in line in the UK !

    Salvador Dali once said he thought Liverpool was the centre of the universe, either there or Perpignan Railway station !

    NO love lost here between This City and Government as many know.

    I'll think about the vaccine this time next year, in no rush to socialize, shop or such yet.

    In no hurry for a "Vaccine Passport" either if they try dangling that carrot!

    PS - Why are multiple military bulldozers on transports going down my quiet suburban Liverpudlian road ?

    I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round !
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    ... excellent topic!
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    Default Re: How Many People Here WILL Have the Vaccine and are Comfortable Doing So?

    I'm not against the vaccine per se, but I will wait several months to see exactly what, if any, side-effects are present.

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