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    Remember when a handshake mattered? Why?

    What held together such an agreement so solid without law or witness ?

    What constituted a view people had of themselves and each other to have this simple act of human contact be so binding ? A handshake along with eye contact

    My Dad told me that all anyone needed in his day was a handshake.
    And that wasn’t that long ago. the 1950ies, 60ies

    What changed?

    I ask this prompted by a scene tonight in the Blues Brothers movie when Jake and Elwood agree to a record deal back stage. The X Bouncer , now head of Clarion Records gives them 10 thou cash, for an agreement a to record deal, simply on a handshake.

    What has changed in people today?

    Is it not still in our power to decide if our word matters ?

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    Default Re: Remember when a handshake mattered?

    "Is it not still in our power to decide if our word matters ?"

    most do not connect to their "personal power"

    the politically correct police will jump down their throats for discriminating against those who "identify" otherwise ...
    We should defend our way of life
    to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed,

    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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    in all seriousness ... yes ... but it DOES take HAVING power behind your word .. and by extension your handshake ...

    it is a movement worth reviving
    and something to mourn the day it is lost
    We should defend our way of life
    to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed,

    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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    Default Re: Remember when a handshake mattered?

    Handshakes mattered.
    Oaths and vows mattered.
    Thought was given before committing, because our integrity was valuable, and it mattered.
    It was who we are.
    Actually, it is who we are, still.
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Default Re: Remember when a handshake mattered?

    Iota
    it is a movement worth reviving
    and something to mourn the day it is lost .

    yes indeed, agreed.

    and I have enjoyed your contributions here. t y

    Sue it is 100% who we are. we just need to re assert it.

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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Handshakes mattered.
    Oaths and vows mattered.
    Thought was given before committing, because our integrity was valuable, and it mattered.
    It was who we are.
    Actually, it is who we are, still.
    Integrity.

    A proper moral compass.

    Empathy. Honour and commitment.

    Tenacity.

    Of course there are more words that can be added to this list. Mix these with respect and love and this is what I feel have circled around me and kept me on a good path.

    I have faith that there are a lot of good people like us.
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    I don't like those kinds of handshakes and I won't accept a hand offered to me like that.

    They kind of creep me out. Rightly or wrongly, I see (and feel) them as crooks' handshakes.

    I feel a whole lot better when a fellow human being offers me their hand in a way more like this:
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    First impressions mean everything, and most of the time, they start with a handshake. Here’s what you need to know to make the locals happy on your next business trip.

    01. Brazil

    Expect a firm handshake that lasts longer than you’re used to. Mix in strong eye contact, and greet women with a kiss on each cheek. Repeat when you leave.

    02. China

    Age matters here, so greet the oldest people first. Grip lightly and bow slightly. Avoid direct eye contact and hold onto the person’s hand a moment or two after the handshake has finished.

    03. Philippines

    Most other Asiatic countries follow China’s lead. The Philippines is an exception. Look them right in the eye and don’t bow. A weak grip, though, is a must.

    04. Australia

    If you’re a woman and you’re shaking a man’s hand, offer your hand first. Typically, women don't shake hands with other women. Shake firm and fast. And no matter what your political ambitions are, never ever use both hands.

    05. France

    It doesn’t matter if you’re meeting them for the first or 101st time. Shake their hand quickly and lightly. If you’re close, a kiss on both cheeks is a-okay.

    06. Russia

    Unless it’s a business situation, don’t shake the hand of the opposite sex. Traditional circles consider it impolite, since a man should kiss a woman’s hand. If you’re going to shake, though, bulk up and make it a bonecrusher.

    07. Turkey

    Keep your deathgrip packed in your suitcase! Firm shakes are rude. Don’t be surprised if the person holds the handshake so long that they start holding your hand. It’s a gesture of friendship.

    08. South Korea

    The most senior person should start the handshake, and the grip should be soft. Don’t bury your free hand in your pocket, but feel free to clench their right arm with your left hand.

    09. Morocco

    As long as they’re the same gender, it’s okay to shake their hand. But go gentle. Only shake a woman’s hand if she offers it.

    10. United Arab Emirates

    Start by shaking the hand of the oldest, or most senior, person there. Greet them by their title, whatever it may be, and expect the handshake to linger. Let them determine when it’s time to let go.

    11. Kenya

    When greeting elders or high-status people, grasp the right wrist with the left hand. Say “Jambo” (How are you?). Afterward, ask them about business or their family. It’s rude not to.

    12. Mexico

    Expect a long lasting handshake. If you’re a man, a hug may be in order, too. Women may kiss each other on the cheeks.

    13. Norway

    It doesn’t matter who is there, how many people there are, or how old they may be—shake hands with everyone. Call each person by his or her first and last name. Never say, “How are you?” To Norwegians, it’s meaningless conversational fluff.

    14. Thailand

    Don’t shake hands! The person will offer what’s called a “wai,” placing their palms together at chest level and bowing. Return the gesture. If you’re a man, greet then with “Sawadee-krap.” If you’re a woman, say “Sawadee-kah” (both mean “Hello). Shake hands only if a wai is not offered.
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    The Top 10 (Hilarious) Bad Business Handshakes:
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    Default Re: Remember when a handshake mattered?

    When I was 4 I guess ( that was 70s, anyway). Someone giving you a handshake made you feel proud.

    But rarely if ever since. People just want to “shake hands” all the time nowadays and it matters very little and more frequently they just want to “touch you” in some manner so I rarely give it to them.

    His Holiness Dalailama, on the other hand, was known to shake thousands of hands during public audiences and it mattered to all of us 😅


    I’ve settled on Namaste 🙏🌟🙏 as the best acceptable and most respectful manner decades ago or another spiritual form of greeting
    tho people sometimes drag me down to what they wanted to be.


    The world has turned big on pomp and fashion since, big on words yet low on character and those characters who resisted all turmoils were taken down by money and social neurosis.

    But there is yet older world perhaps and characters to whom it all does not matter so intensely , so much.

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    This is just a personal and honest perspective. I do not and never liked handshakes (especially with sweaty hands of the opposite person).

    You can make agreements and greet people without touching.

    Again. Just my personal preference. One of the few things where the lockdown / social distancing measures do not bother me.

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    Default Re: Remember when a handshake mattered?

    its whats behind the handshake that matters.

    I guess times have really changed

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)

    . . . They kind of creep me out. . . .


    Maybe I was too influenced by this image that 'Hypnosis' produced for an album cover in the 70s when I was young.

    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Default Re: Remember when a handshake mattered?

    at least they are not wearing masks

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