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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    well I do have a water plan with large jugs filled around my apt . and I have a portable water survival filter device even for dirty water.
    lets hope it doesnt come to this.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

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    well I do have a water plan with large jugs filled around my apt . and I have a portable water survival filter device even for dirty water.
    lets hope it doesnt come to this.
    Same here on a stash of liter size mason jars of water. Beside other places, I keep about 8 of them in the refrigerator. It’s a way to save a little on the electric bill. I alternate them out. Also when the electricity goes out it keeps things cool for a little longer.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    All these filters are great. I have a katadyn in my car. You really need to practice though. I turned off my water for just a weekend and it is hugely illuminating how challenging it can be.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

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    All these filters are great. I have a katadyn in my car. You really need to practice though. I turned off my water for just a weekend and it is hugely illuminating how challenging it can be.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    A small manual juicer. This could be a game changer for juicing nettles, grass, herbs etc for their fresh vital minerals and vitamins, when eating them would be impossible and cooking them would destroy most essentials.


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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    I would not forget of the following:

    jars of pickles, good quality jams, sauerkraut, kimchi, pestos, marinated in oil can be stored for years without change to their quality, they can get even better and contain some precious energy and antioxidants you may miss in long winters, otherwise.

    Blocks of cheese or dried cheese are also not difficult to preserve.

    Skimmed milk or milk powder in sealed packets.

    Rice flower, barley flower, tapioca pearls, seeds but in carefully sealed packets else they degrade fast.

    Dried mushrooms.

    ......


    Short list: the 10 pound jar of olives I could not carry last time 🙏😅

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    I'm more or less in the same boat given the question posed, 3 items and limited space: Rice and beans will feed you forever. Tuna you can open and eat w/o cooking if necessary and is healthy. In SHTF scenario I'd consider SPAM instead of tuna. So I agree with OP and don't have much to add I suppose lol.

    I'd just suggest a couple things. I have a bit of experience from this because I've evacuated a few times to avoid hurricanes. So I'm not an authority but I've gone through this a few times, although under a different scenario than presented in the OP. Most importantly: beta test your plan. Meaning if you plan to have 'X' weeks of emergency supplies then come up with your plan, shop, then try it out for that amount of time now while all is calm. You want to test this out ahead of time to be prepared. Some things don't go the way you plan them to and you want to find the problem areas before SHTF. If you plan on boiling water with wood you find laying around then you should do so now to see what it's like. It's a serious PITA. Even with a Sterno stove it's a PITA. A few cap fulls of 90+% rubbing alcohol will get a small can of water boiling quickly. Handy to know in the moment.

    I have a "to-go" bag for hurricanes. Since I'm on the road in an evacuation I avoid things that need to be cooked/boiled/whatever. Peanut butter is a fav and tuna is still on the menu along with SPAM (aka dog food). I mostly have canned goods, stuff that you can just pop open and eat. As for water, I wait for the SHTF, then I store water at 1 gallon per day.

    The best way to purify the water if you collect it somehow is to boil it but I also have a filter for again, the SHTF scenario. Only problem is drinking water out of it is like trying to sip pudding through a straw.
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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

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    As for water, I wait for the SHTF, then I store water at 1 gallon per day.

    The best way to purify the water if you collect it somehow is to boil it but I also have a filter for again, the SHTF scenario. Only problem is drinking water out of it is like trying to sip pudding through a straw.
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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    I like that people have listed salts and fats we can die without them.

    In a perfect world of only 3 things, I would have a cow, some chickens and a pond with fish and salt

    Realistically, I just bought a dehydrator and will be dehydrating fruits, nuts, veg, spices, mushrooms, meats sealing in mylar bags. As well as dry and wet canning the same. I'd like to get a freeze dryer eventually. I am not a "prepper" per se. I am a boater so I already keep a lot of items on hand that a very well equipped RV would have. I really just need some solar panels and a "solar generator". I was able to get a nice dehydrator so I'll be using that a lot for food storage.

    I would like a cow and some chickens..and I would also like a tiny little farm somewhere warm.....one day.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    Getting clean water by sucking through a straw then spitting it out into pot for re-hydrating dehydrated food may OK for some but maybe not be OK for others if the food is to be shared. Although when I think about deep kissing when I was a young man there may not be a great difference.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    I like that people have listed salts and fats we can die without them.

    In a perfect world of only 3 things, I would have a cow, some chickens and a pond with fish and salt

    Realistically, I just bought a dehydrator and will be dehydrating fruits, nuts, veg, spices, mushrooms, meats sealing in mylar bags. As well as dry and wet canning the same. I'd like to get a freeze dryer eventually. I am not a "prepper" per se. I am a boater so I already keep a lot of items on hand that a very well equipped RV would have. I really just need some solar panels and a "solar generator". I was able to get a nice dehydrator so I'll be using that a lot for food storage.

    I would like a cow and some chickens..and I would also like a tiny little farm somewhere warm.....one day.
    What kind of dehydrator did you get? I have been looking at them, thinking I should have one. I have a cow. Pond went dry due to the drought. My nearest neighbors have chickens and they share eggs with me so that is covered! I have a lovely garden and a good well on solar. Trying to cover everything! I hope to get my house on solar soon.
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    A small manual juicer. This could be a game changer for juicing nettles, grass, herbs etc for their fresh vital minerals and vitamins, when eating them would be impossible and cooking them would destroy most essentials.


    Any recommendation for a manual juicer?

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    I blame GREY HAIR on alcohol consumption on a regular basis. It also signals that other deficiencies probably exist in the body. A good thing to have is one or more large boxes of NUTRITIONAL YEAST as well as other vitamins and minerals, especially vitamin C. In the last crisis these things disappeared from grocery and other shelves.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    amor interesting. i remember richard avadons photo show of bums and drifters across the country. what amazed me is they all had full heads of dark hair. perhaps they were young
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    I think Brewer's yeast that is Marmite in Australia and something similar in the UK is Vegemite. They both taste like dirty socks to me...but beloved by many.

    I would just add a few things that are not "items"

    Health: Focus on becoming as healthy as you can be.
    Strength/Endurance: Small things like walking daily, going up and down stairs, lunges and doing pushups against a wall, stretching requires no investments in equipment for those just starting out. You can build from there just by doing more stairs, walking further longer stretches...

    Diet: you know what you need to do. there are literally 100's of approaches. When starving we do not live off our fat stores, we live off our muscle tissue first. This is not so with fasting. It takes practice to get it right. Be aware if like me you have a restricted diet in times of duress vegans may have to eat meat and I will have to eat bread...which will make me sick. Humans are omnivoress for a reason..to survive. I will not debate "ideal diets" there isn't one for everyone.

    Teeth: get anything that needs to be fixed now again there are 100's of approaches to dentistry. For those without amalgam fillings oil pulling is excellent.

    Things you definitely DO NOT NEED:
    Addictions....be it sugar, alcohol, drugs/narcotics, cigarettes. They are great to trade but horrible if you are dependent on them, if you are stock up.....addicts do odd things to get a fix. Don't be that person.
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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    Quote Posted by amor (here)
    I blame GREY HAIR on alcohol consumption on a regular basis.
    All those Guru's and enlightened masters with grey hair and white hair would like to have a word with you about this generalization...

    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    I think that is Marmite in Australia and something similar in the UK is Vegemite. They both taste like dirty socks to me.
    Did I miss some context? I take it neither of these are in your top three then?

    IMO Vegemite and Marmite are very different. To the extent that to me Vegemite is less potent and tastes like Marmite mixed with chalk. Both are an acquired taste. There is only one Marmite and its super hard to get it here in Australia - I have even resorted to importing some into Australia myself before now from the UK - but I have finally had to let go of my need to consume it. Other options exist. No one has marmite on toast over here anymore, its gonna be something like smashed avo on toast.
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    A small manual juicer. This could be a game changer for juicing nettles, grass, herbs etc for their fresh vital minerals and vitamins, when eating them would be impossible and cooking them would destroy most essentials.


    Any recommendation for a manual juicer?
    I bought mine years ago and the brand no longer exists. The juicer needs to be stainless steel. hand cranked, able to clamp to a firm surface and be able to juice wheatgrass. I see there are plenty on Amazon uk which are manufactured in China.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

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    I blame GREY HAIR on alcohol consumption on a regular basis.
    All those Guru's and enlightened masters with grey hair and white hair would like to have a word with you about this generalization...
    Well.... maybe not. Quite a few may have hit the bottle before realising that was not the answer.

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    Default Re: List 3 main survival foods for storing in case of food shortages

    To all those with GREY HAIR out there, my suggestion was not intended as a JAB. (I am shaking with laughter as I try to type this.) Did I forget to say Nutritional Yeast FLAKES OR POWDER, the flakes taste better, the powder may require control to swallow. My parents used to buy Marmite, etc. I discovered a jar which jogged my memory and so I bought one. This thing tasted like brine, and so, not wanting to rob the embalmer of a not too distant future fee, I threw it in the garbage.

    In addition to things I had read on nutrition, I was thinking about the dearest friend I ever made (in high school). As we maneuvered the perils of young adulthood in NYC, interspersed with gales of laughter when comparing experiences, she mentioned a favorite drink mix she would order when out on the town containing tequila as one ingredient. I took a taste of her drink once. It tasted absolutely ghastly, reminding me of the time my foster grandmother let me take a puff of her cigarette, I was nine years old and spent the rest of the week doing everything I could think of to remove nicotine from my mouth. Back to my friend. She apparently continued the habit of having this favorite drink around dinner time. I was not, therefore, surprised to hear after several years of marriage that her hair had turned prematurely grey and was costing her a fortune to have her hairdresser restore the color. She had plenty of hair. We were like sisters. Thousands of miles apart we seemed to know what was on the mind of the other. In 2010, I received a mental message, "If you don't call her this minute you will never be able to speak with her again." She told me that the very next day she was scheduled to have surgery on THREE heart valves. I got her husbands telephone number then. At the time the operation was supposed to be completed, I called him. He told me she had just DIED, never having recovered consciousness. To Doug who is interested in messages etc. beyond death, she has communicated with me three times. Although this may seem off topic, habitual alcohol will get you one way or another. If you possibly can, try drinking something else. Whenever I am presented with "what to drink" at home, all of this goes through my head as tea, coffee, fruit juice or water. I never touch soft drinks which are sugar bombs.

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