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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

    Questions:
    1. If there is a cyberpandemic, what will be the new protocols? For example, during COVID, they are "Wear a Mask", "Shelter in Place", "Get the Vaccine", etc.

    2. If the blame for the cyber attack is the Russians, what is the agenda (not the main one, but one of many agendas) against the Russians and how will it play out? Will there be war with Russia? Trade wars, sanctions, etc??? Will a large number of Amercans, especially those who aren't behind behind the Biden/CNN/Bilderberg agenda going to dissent, and will that lead to civil war? (In other words, our own opposition to the NWO will be come part of the NWO's desired chaos plan.)

    3. If the internet, media broadcasting, and other forms of communication are disrupted (due to hacking or failure of the power grid), how do everyday humans communicate with each other? How does the media communicate with us (to give us our mind control and programming)?

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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

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    Quote Posted by iota (here)

    so to be CLEAR you are saying the following points have NO merit?
    I'm saying there's no clear outcome, there's no actionable items....I'm not discounting the veracity of the information; more the format of it...


    This was a big "hack" but it only effected our unclassified networks.. which we almost don't even care about.

    there's a lot of hype right now..


    Quote it is PAST the deadline ... have you heard NOTHING of this TargetT?
    its a deadline with almost no consequences... there's nothing happening here but some talking; that's what I am trying to say.


    we really need that report published.
    TargetT, if i may please, just one more question i'd like to press you to answer:

    Quote are you familiar with SolarWinds? are they friendly? neutral? or suspect?
    and if you could say whether this is based on facts you are aware of (whether or not you are at liberty to disclose) OR subjective feelings?

    i do not discount subjective feelings, coming from someone expert in a field in particular, sometimes they are MUCH more accurate than what is put on paper and disclosed ... the opinion of people like you or Bill, for example, for me? holds much weight, so just wondering is all

    i'm going to research, and knowing what your opinion is will save me much time and point me in right direction.

    Secondly, the report ... you say we need it published ... does that mean you think they will tell us the truth when they do?

    thanks, as always!
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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

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    Quote are you familiar with SolarWinds? are they friendly? neutral? or suspect?
    I worked with that software for years, they appear to be a victim in this situation... the key point to all of this is HOW did the update patch get a signed certificate when it included malware, I'd guess infiltration of the company itself (which we know is a big part of the CCP strategy).


    Focus on that IMO.. that's where / how this all started (or at least the major inflection point)


    Solarwinds is not like Dominion, I don't think looking into their board etc will give you much (unlike looking into dominion's board... which gives a lot of interesting connections).

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    Questions:
    If there is a cyberpandemic, what will be the new protocols? For example, during COVID, they are "Wear a Mask", "Shelter in Place", "Get the Vaccine", etc.
    I don't see any information based on this current situation that indicates something "bad" will happen; even this (solarwinds compromise) was just "alarming" not super dangerous for the most part
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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

    Wall Street Journal headline today “US Cyberattack Suggests More Sophisticated Hack” (unfortunately behind paywall). Article blames Russia, with no evidence. Admits at least 18,000 companies involved. Second article “Senators Ask IRS for Briefing On Solar Winds Breach” not only as they concerned about taxpayer data, but article mentions “US Treasury department..was breached in the hack...also the State Department and Office of Homeland Security”

    I find all this intriguing in light of the Ice Age Farmers video, and also Kerry Cassidy’s latest update ( no source given) about the Internet being taken down for 10 days to facilitate a Trump government takeover. Perhaps the hack is the pretext?

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    Quote Posted by Deborah (ahamkara) (here)
    Perhaps the hack is the pretext?
    i GUARANTEE you ...

    the hack WILL BE the "pretext" for MUCH of the distraction we will be blasted with to come ...
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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

    Quote Posted by Deborah (ahamkara) (here)
    I find all this intriguing in light of the Ice Age Farmers video, and also Kerry Cassidy’s latest update ( no source given) about the Internet being taken down for 10 days to facilitate a Trump government takeover. Perhaps the hack is the pretext?
    "the internet" cannot be taken down.. that's ridiculous, it's not designed with any single point of failure and the US does not own the root DNS (domain name service, basically a phone book that translates www.prjectavalon.net to 10.10.10.11 (as an example)) as of a couple years ago... so we can't even "break the phone book".

    The best that could be done is break the "phone book" but there are a ton of other DNS's out there etc....

    saying "turn of the internet" is like saying "drain the oceans".... where would you even start?
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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

    Jeffrey Prather on Solar winds go to the 19.26 min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbxX_S7V3s

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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

    Thanks TargeT! I like hearing from Avalon members who can clarify some of the massive amounts of info and disinfo floating about.

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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

    Quote Posted by Deborah (ahamkara) (here)
    Wall Street Journal headline today “US Cyberattack Suggests More Sophisticated Hack” (unfortunately behind paywall). Article blames Russia, with no evidence.
    The article contains a nice big photo of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service in Moscow. Just putting the article there and making the accusation is enough for some people.

    I may not be a hacker myself, but I can get behind the WSJ paywall, so here you are:

    Hack Suggests New Scope, Sophistication for Cyberattacks
    Suspected Russian hack involving SolarWinds software that compromised parts of the U.S. government was executed on a scale that has surprised even veteran security experts



    By Dustin Volz and Robert McMillan
    Updated Dec. 17, 2020 10:35 pm ET
    Article found behind a paywall here https://www.wsj.com/articles/hack-su...ks-11608251360

    The suspected Russian hack that compromised parts of the U.S. government was executed with a scope and sophistication that has surprised even veteran security experts and exposed a potentially critical vulnerability in America’s technology infrastructure, according to investigators.

    As the probe continues into the massive hack—which cast a nearly invisible net across 18,000 companies and government agencies—security specialists are uncovering new evidence that indicates the operation is part of a broader, previously undetected cyber espionage campaign that may stretch back years.

    The attack blended extraordinarily stealthy tradecraft, using cyber tools never before seen in a previous attack, with a strategy that zeroed in on a weak link in the software supply chain that all U.S. businesses and government institutions rely on—an approach security experts have long feared but one that has never been used on U.S. targets in such a concerted way.

    Inside the Hack
    The hackers used what’s called a supply chain attack, exploiting SolarWinds management software updates to put malicious code on the targets’ servers.



    The hackers used the digital equivalent of a spy’s disguise to blend in with the flood of data flowing through government and corporate networks and remain undetected. They snatched up years-old but abandoned internet domains and repurposed them for hacking, and they named their software to mimic legitimate corporate tools. Most devastatingly, they sneaked their malicious code into the legitimate software of a trusted software maker—an Austin-based company called SolarWinds Corp. and its software called Orion.

    The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency tasked with protecting U.S. networks, in an alert Thursday, said it had evidence that the hackers have managed to break into computer networks using bugs other than the SolarWinds software. The alert labeled the hack a “grave threat” to compromised victims, which it said include multiple government agencies, critical infrastructure entities and private sector companies.

    Hours later, the National Security Agency, America’s top cyberspy organization, issued a broader warning to defense agencies and contractors about vulnerabilities such as those exposed by the SolarWinds attack. Hackers, it said, were finding ways to forge computer credentials to gain wider access across networks and steal protected data stored on in-house servers and cloud data centers. The approach, the NSA said, may have been used in an attack on VMware Inc. software used in national security circles that the spy agency warned about earlier this month.

    Government officials and cybersecurity experts have concluded that Russia is likely responsible for the hack, in part due to the extreme skill involved as well as other classified clues, according to people familiar with the matter. At least two senators who have received briefings in recent days have openly referred to it as a Russian operation. Moscow has denied responsibility.

    Government officials and lawmakers are still working to understand the full consequences of the hack, which is viewed as a classic but highly successful attempt to spy on internal communications and steal information that could be valuable to Moscow’s intelligence agencies. It isn’t considered a destructive attack that damaged or shut down computer systems, as some major cyberattacks have done in the past

    Cybersecurity company FireEye Inc. says private sector customers across the globe likely have been impacted. Investigators say that the bulk of the companies affected by the attack are based in the U.S. and Western Europe. No foreign governments have announced compromises of their own systems. A former senior British intelligence official said Western governments other than the U.S. expect to find evidence of compromises in their systems in the coming weeks.

    The SolarWinds attack so eluded U.S. security measures that it was discovered not by intelligence officials but, almost accidentally, thanks to an automated security alert sent in recent weeks to an employee at FireEye, which itself had been quietly compromised.

    The warning, which was also sent to the company’s security team, told the employee of FireEye that someone had used the employee’s credentials to log into the company’s virtual private network from an unrecognized device—the kind of security message that corporate workers routinely delete. Had it not triggered scrutiny from FireEye executives, the attack would likely still not be detected, officials say.

    The stealth of the attack has slowed efforts to determine how far-reaching the cyber intrusion has been, and new revelations have emerged daily. On Thursday, the Energy Department said its business networks had been compromised. Mission critical national security functions, including those of the National Nuclear Security Administration, haven’t been impacted, a department spokeswoman said.

    While U.S. government agencies were clearly a target, Microsoft Corp. released research Thursday showing that of the more than 40 customers it had identified as victims of the SolarWinds hack, 44% were IT services companies. While 80% of the victim companies were based in the U.S., Microsoft said that targets were also hit in the U.K., Canada, Mexico, Belgium, Spain, Israel and the United Arab Emirates.

    Taken together, the information investigators have uncovered indicates the suspected Russia hacking operation is more widespread than even feared just days ago, with the hallmarks of a historic espionage campaign.

    Some security experts now believe there are clues to suggest preparations for the attack may date back four years.

    The hackers found their way into the Department of Homeland Security, the sprawling State Department, the Treasury and Commerce departments and others, according to people familiar with the matter. As many as 18,000 companies downloaded the malicious SolarWinds update. Investigators suspect the hackers likely burrowed into dozens or perhaps hundreds using the flaw, due to the resources and time required to quietly infiltrate a network.

    But because it went undetected for so long and due to the expertise of the hackers, thousands of potential victims may never be able to know for sure whether they were compromised, security experts say.

    “It’s very broad in scope, and potentially very damaging to our economic security,” said J. Michael Daniel, chief executive of the Cyber Threat Alliance, an industry information-sharing group, and the former White House cybersecurity coordinator in the Obama administration. “It’s going to take a long time to figure out the full scope and extent of the damage, and it’s probably going to cost a lot of money to fix.”

    It’s also a black eye for the U.S. intelligence community, which spent much of the year worrying about a hack by Russia or others targeting the U.S. presidential election and was in a celebratory mood when that didn’t occur. The actual attack ended up with a different target—government and corporate networks—and went undetected and discovered almost by luck by FireEye and not government security agencies.

    The warning about the login attempt set off a red alert at the cyber vendor, which is charged with helping to protect the networks of some of the biggest companies. FireEye put more than 100 cyber sleuths on the job out of its roughly 3,400 total staff. Trained to investigate breaches at other companies, they now found themselves scouring the company’s own networks.

    “It came in crisp and clean,” FireEye Chief Executive Kevin Mandia said of the apparent intrusion. “After years of responding to breaches, years of just understanding the details, something felt different about this one.”

    Charles Carmakal, senior vice president of FireEye’s incident response unit, led the company’s investigation. Early into the process, Mr. Carmakal said he realized the company was contending with one of the most advanced and disciplined hacking groups he had ever seen.

    Among the worrying signs, the attacker seemed to have an understanding of the red flags that typically help companies like FireEye find intrusions, and they navigated around them: They used computer infrastructure entirely located in the U.S.; and they gave their systems the same names used by real FireEye employee systems, an unusually adept tactic designed to further conceal the hackers’ presence.

    More alarmingly, FireEye, other security companies and partners in the intelligence community and law enforcement could find no evidence linking that infrastructure to attacks on other victims. Hackers, even good ones, often reuse their cyber tools because doing so is easier, cheaper and faster.

    The laser focus made the attack harder to detect, FireEye and others said. Mr. Mandia likened the activity to “a sniper round through a bulletproof vest.”

    Once they noticed suspicious activity emanating from SolarWinds’ Orion product, the company’s malware analysts scoured some 50,000 lines of code in search for “a needle in a stack of needles,” Mr. Carmakal said, eventually spotting a few dozen lines of suspicious code that didn’t appear to have any reason to be there. Further analysis confirmed it as the source of the hack.

    On Saturday, the company notified SolarWinds, the software vendor that had unwittingly sent out contaminated software since March, about its discovery, and updated the U.S. government. “We mobilized our incident response team and quickly shifted significant internal resources to investigate and remediate the vulnerability,” SolarWinds said Thursday.

    SolarWinds said it released a quick fix that patched the security issue for customers this week. But experts have warned that merely cutting off the access point for hackers won’t guarantee their removal, especially because they would have used their time inside those networks to further conceal their activity.

    While intelligence officials and security experts generally agree Russia is responsible, and some believe it is the handiwork of Moscow’s foreign intelligence service, FireEye and Microsoft, as well as some government officials, believe the attack was perpetrated by a hacking group never seen before, one whose tools and techniques had been previously unknown.


    Satellite imagery of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service in Moscow, in 2019

    “We were lucky to catch them when we did,” said Glenn Gerstell, the former general counsel of the National Security Agency. Despite powerful espionage capabilities and a commitment to persistently monitoring what foreign hackers are doing overseas, legal restrictions make U.S. intelligence agencies ill-suited to follow capable adversaries who set up camp on domestic computer infrastructure, as the SolarWinds hackers did, Mr. Gerstell said.

    The complexity and broad success of the SolarWinds hack represents a new frontier for cybersecurity, but the technique of using a trusted software provider as a Trojan Horse to break into one of its customers has been used before. In 2017 hackers also linked to Russia put malicious software in an obscure Ukrainian tax program leading to a world-wide outbreak of the destructive software known as NotPetya. FedEx Corp. later said that the incident cost the company $400 million. Another victim, Merck & Co. put the cleanup price tag at $670 million.

    With the SolarWinds attack, stealth and not destruction was the priority. This allowed it to go undetected for so long, and it also showed how far hackers could go by gaining access to the software development tools of a medium-size company with footholds in the networks of the U.S. government and Fortune 500 companies.

    How the hackers gained access to SolarWinds systems to introduce the malicious code is still uncertain. The company said that its Microsoft email accounts had been compromised and that this access may have been used to glean more data from the company’s Office productivity tools.

    Key building blocks for the SolarWinds hack were being put in place already last year when the hackers acquired internet domains that would serve as outside launching points for its attack, according to Joe Slowik, a researcher with threat intelligence company DomainTools LLC. Once installed, the malicious software connected to a server located on these domains that allowed them to launch further attacks against the SolarWinds customers and to steal data.

    The cybersecurity firm Volexity Inc. has traced the actions of the SolarWinds hackers back at least four years, according to Steven Adair, the company’s president.

    In July, he investigated a break in at a think tank, which he declined to name, that was using SolarWinds software. The think tank had been under attack for four years as hackers attempted to read the emails of specific employees, Mr. Adair said. The first time they gained access, they used an unknown method; the second time they took advantage of a bug in Microsoft Exchange software. When FireEye publicly released its SolarWinds findings on Sunday, Mr. Adair said he knew “within seconds” that it was related to the incident he had investigated in the summer.

    FireEye has fielded calls in recent days from customers who believe they have been infiltrated by the same hackers even though they never installed SolarWinds software on their networks, according to Mr. Carmakal.

    “It would be foolish for us to think that the only technique that they have to break in organizations is SolarWinds,” Mr. Carmakal said. “As we continue our investigation, we may find that there is a different avenue the attacker used to gain access to those organizations.”
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    Default Re: The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye... Anything can happen now

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Questions:
    If there is a cyberpandemic, what will be the new protocols?
    I don't see any information based on this current situation that indicates something "bad" will happen; even this (solarwinds compromise) was just "alarming" not super dangerous for the most part
    I hope you are correct about that one Target. What the fear mongerers at The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal are saying is that the update from SolarWinds has done is create a back door so that hackers can get into the system. While SolarWinds has shipped a patch that has fixed the problem, the time window in between has allowed hackers to make other changes to the system so that they can get into it later. I am not convinced that this isn't a catastrophe.

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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    No pun intended - really - I am a patient person. I am surprised, that so many people are not fed up with all of this crap.

    But I suppose that so many people just don't get it.

    The media constantly reports "the rise in cases" but we know that the tests are faulty. But people get stuck at the number of cases and ignore the small number of deaths. (And we have to consider how many of those deaths reported were really due to covid.)

    Now they are saying that even if you get the vaccine, it doesn't change things - you still need to wear a mask and social distance, and do not travel.

    So now they have to throw something else at us. We knew they were going to, but most of the sheeple didn't.

    Even so, when is enough going to be enough? Probably never. I expect that the people will allow themselves to be led to "wherever" they want to lead them.


    It really is sad and pathetic that so many people are sheeple.

    I have very little patience left for them. And that makes me sad.


    If I had enough money, I would buy a large island somewhere and call it Avalon Island - you would all be welcome. And also any of the sheeple that are willing to open their eyes a bit. Of course, if they didn't they wouldn't come in the first place.
    Hello Canada.
    Stiff upper lip, keep the faith, press on Macduff and all that stuff. I had no intention of replying to this post because I share some of your sentiments and I felt very sad when I first read it. If I try to correct some of the programing among friends and family I am often called insane or stupid or any of the usual labels that we tend receive. I decided to make some tea and lo and behold, synchronicity. As I was passing my wife, there on her ipad was a picture of myself on Twitter. I asked her what it was about and she showed me the thread which read "People that most influenced my life". I remembered a kid who kept asking me questions twenty years ago and I did not realize that I had any impression on him. When I came back to my computer, your post was still there. I decided to reply to your post.
    I think we must all strive to do our little bit, after all, eight bits make a Byte. LOL. I am reminded by the words of Francis Bacon (or was that Shakespeare) who said: "All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players", etc.
    Love to all and keep up the good work.

    P.S. Remember to invite me to your island. I love to fish and will help to feed everyone.
    When I first thought of an Island, I thought of the pacific northwest. The beauty of the trees and land never leaves you once you have experienced it.

    But then I thought of how often it rains there and thought - to heck with that, it would have to be a southern tropical island for sure.

    So keep your eyes and ears open for us!

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    Questions:
    If there is a cyberpandemic, what will be the new protocols?
    I don't see any information based on this current situation that indicates something "bad" will happen; even this (solarwinds compromise) was just "alarming" not super dangerous for the most part
    I hope you are correct about that one Target. What the fear mongerers at The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal are saying is that the update from SolarWinds has done is create a back door so that hackers can get into the system. While SolarWinds has shipped a patch that has fixed the problem, the time window in between has allowed hackers to make other changes to the system so that they can get into it later. I am not convinced that this isn't a catastrophe.
    Yes, there is always a back door. Built by ego.

    I had written a larger post, but erased it because I realized that I could be contributing information to someone on the wrong team. I am not a programmer, but I have worked with them. They are human.

    I once worked with a company that had eight walls (levels) of security to protect its intellectual property. It was good. But it could easily be walked through by one person on the inside. Programmers write the code that is on the inside - hacking will always be a threat.

    I think this is a good example for people to realize that the more we rely on machines and tech, the more vulnerable we leave ourselves.

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    Questions:
    If there is a cyberpandemic, what will be the new protocols?
    I don't see any information based on this current situation that indicates something "bad" will happen; even this (solarwinds compromise) was just "alarming" not super dangerous for the most part
    I hope you are correct about that one Target. What the fear mongerers at The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal are saying is that the update from SolarWinds has done is create a back door so that hackers can get into the system. While SolarWinds has shipped a patch that has fixed the problem, the time window in between has allowed hackers to make other changes to the system so that they can get into it later. I am not convinced that this isn't a catastrophe.
    Yes, there is always a back door. Built by ego.

    I had written a larger post, but erased it because I realized that I could be contributing information to someone on the wrong team. I am not a programmer, but I have worked with them. They are human.

    I once worked with a company that had eight walls (levels) of security to protect its intellectual property. It was good. But it could easily be walked through by one person on the inside. Programmers write the code that is on the inside - hacking will always be a threat.

    I think this is a good example for people to realize that the more we rely on machines and tech, the more vulnerable we leave ourselves.
    we are really good at what we do... I work on 4 networks... only 1 is unclass...

    so expand from there and see how small this is?

    we don't have levels of security... we have physical separation with advanced obfuscation … this is known and documented... so what happened with solarwinds should be easily understood as minimal... due to our compartmentalization...

    we are being shown a fake boogyman... and I'm sure it's meant to be something political and to advance the fear propaganda.
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    No pun intended - really - I am a patient person. I am surprised, that so many people are not fed up with all of this crap.

    But I suppose that so many people just don't get it.

    The media constantly reports "the rise in cases" but we know that the tests are faulty. But people get stuck at the number of cases and ignore the small number of deaths. (And we have to consider how many of those deaths reported were really due to covid.)

    Now they are saying that even if you get the vaccine, it doesn't change things - you still need to wear a mask and social distance, and do not travel.

    So now they have to throw something else at us. We knew they were going to, but most of the sheeple didn't.

    Even so, when is enough going to be enough? Probably never. I expect that the people will allow themselves to be led to "wherever" they want to lead them.


    It really is sad and pathetic that so many people are sheeple.

    I have very little patience left for them. And that makes me sad.


    If I had enough money, I would buy a large island somewhere and call it Avalon Island - you would all be welcome. And also any of the sheeple that are willing to open their eyes a bit. Of course, if they didn't they wouldn't come in the first place.
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    Stiff upper lip, keep the faith, press on Macduff and all that stuff. I had no intention of replying to this post because I share some of your sentiments and I felt very sad when I first read it. If I try to correct some of the programing among friends and family I am often called insane or stupid or any of the usual labels that we tend receive. I decided to make some tea and lo and behold, synchronicity. As I was passing my wife, there on her ipad was a picture of myself on Twitter. I asked her what it was about and she showed me the thread which read "People that most influenced my life". I remembered a kid who kept asking me questions twenty years ago and I did not realize that I had any impression on him. When I came back to my computer, your post was still there. I decided to reply to your post.
    I think we must all strive to do our little bit, after all, eight bits make a Byte. LOL. I am reminded by the words of Francis Bacon (or was that Shakespeare) who said: "All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players", etc.
    Love to all and keep up the good work.

    P.S. Remember to invite me to your island. I love to fish and will help to feed everyone.
    When I first thought of an Island, I thought of the pacific northwest. The beauty of the trees and land never leaves you once you have experienced it.

    But then I thought of how often it rains there and thought - to heck with that, it would have to be a southern tropical island for sure.

    So keep your eyes and ears open for us!
    i almost bought one, i found the absolute perfect place with a little 2 bedroom house furnished already and solar panels and water system, a tiny private beach, party shack and a little canoe too! the best part is it had lots of food growing on it too, including ... are you ready? .... COFFEE!!! yay!!

    the ONLY drawback was what it was named after ... the dove ... and they were there .. the sound of the dove song haunts me for personal reasons ... birds are one of the means the universe likes to use to communicate with me ... and don't want to talk about it ....

    it was totally affordable too ... the house i bought instead was not much less than what it sold for ... price of a shack in California ... so there ARE deals out there ...

    anyway ... have a look

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...a-400-000.html

    someone did a pdf!


    we could always do a communal thing too, and set up our own charter that forbids any BIDEN from ever setting foot on the land!
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    I find all this intriguing in light of the Ice Age Farmers video, and also Kerry Cassidy’s latest update ( no source given) about the Internet being taken down for 10 days to facilitate a Trump government takeover. Perhaps the hack is the pretext?
    "the internet" cannot be taken down.. that's ridiculous, it's not designed with any single point of failure and the US does not own the root DNS (domain name service, basically a phone book that translates www.prjectavalon.net to 10.10.10.11 (as an example)) as of a couple years ago... so we can't even "break the phone book".

    The best that could be done is break the "phone book" but there are a ton of other DNS's out there etc....

    saying "turn of the internet" is like saying "drain the oceans".... where would you even start?
    Though a bill was tabled in the US with an internet 'kill switch' proposal..It didn't pass but would you trust them to not just go ahead and do it anyway?

    Quote Proposed Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010

    Main article: Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act

    On June 19, 2010, Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT) introduced the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act,[4] which he co-wrote with Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) and Senator Thomas Carper (D-DE). If signed into law, this controversial bill, which the American media dubbed the kill switch bill, would have granted the President emergency powers over the Internet. Other parts of the bill focused on the establishment of an Office of Cyberspace Policy and on its missions, as well as on the coordination of cyberspace policy at the federal level.

    The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) criticized the scope of the legislation in a letter to Senator Lieberman signed by several other civil liberty groups.[5] Particularly, they asked how the authorities would classify what is critical communications infrastructure (CCI) and what is not, and how the government would preserve the right of free speech in cybersecurity emergencies. An automatic renewal provision within the proposed legislation would keep it going beyond thirty days. The group recommended that the legislation follows a strict First Amendment scrutiny test.

    All three co-authors of the bill subsequently issued a statement claiming that the bill "[narrowed] existing broad Presidential authority to take over telecommunications networks",[6] and Senator Lieberman contended that the bill did not seek to make a 'kill switch' option available ("the President will never take over – the government should never take over the Internet"),[6] but instead insisted that serious steps had to be taken in order to counter a potential mass scale cyber attack. The Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010 expired at the end of the 2009–2010 Congress without receiving a vote from either chamber.[7]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch

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    I find all this intriguing in light of the Ice Age Farmers video, and also Kerry Cassidy’s latest update ( no source given) about the Internet being taken down for 10 days to facilitate a Trump government takeover. Perhaps the hack is the pretext?
    "the internet" cannot be taken down.. that's ridiculous, it's not designed with any single point of failure and the US does not own the root DNS (domain name service, basically a phone book that translates www.prjectavalon.net to 10.10.10.11 (as an example)) as of a couple years ago... so we can't even "break the phone book".

    The best that could be done is break the "phone book" but there are a ton of other DNS's out there etc....

    saying "turn of the internet" is like saying "drain the oceans".... where would you even start?
    Though a bill was tabled in the US with an internet 'kill switch' proposal..It didn't pass but would you trust them to not just go ahead and do it anyway?

    Quote Proposed Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010

    Main article: Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act

    On June 19, 2010, Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT) introduced the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act,[4] which he co-wrote with Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) and Senator Thomas Carper (D-DE). If signed into law, this controversial bill, which the American media dubbed the kill switch bill, would have granted the President emergency powers over the Internet. Other parts of the bill focused on the establishment of an Office of Cyberspace Policy and on its missions, as well as on the coordination of cyberspace policy at the federal level.

    The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) criticized the scope of the legislation in a letter to Senator Lieberman signed by several other civil liberty groups.[5] Particularly, they asked how the authorities would classify what is critical communications infrastructure (CCI) and what is not, and how the government would preserve the right of free speech in cybersecurity emergencies. An automatic renewal provision within the proposed legislation would keep it going beyond thirty days. The group recommended that the legislation follows a strict First Amendment scrutiny test.

    All three co-authors of the bill subsequently issued a statement claiming that the bill "[narrowed] existing broad Presidential authority to take over telecommunications networks",[6] and Senator Lieberman contended that the bill did not seek to make a 'kill switch' option available ("the President will never take over – the government should never take over the Internet"),[6] but instead insisted that serious steps had to be taken in order to counter a potential mass scale cyber attack. The Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010 expired at the end of the 2009–2010 Congress without receiving a vote from either chamber.[7]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch
    This is an interesting issue, since nobody own the internet, how could possibly have a kill switch?

    Take a look here https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
    All these companies (more than 400) have their own physical infrastructure to provide communication through under sea cables.

    To know in more details how this monster works, I suggest look into: Internet exchange points, network access points, interconnection agreements (peering agreements), Border Gateway Protocol (BGP), Tier 1 networks (e.g. Tata Communications and Telecom Italia, NTT, GTT, etc), Tier 2 (points of presence, large ISPs, purchase of some traffic), Tier 3 (purchase traffic to participate on the internet, include smaller ISPs).

    The internet does not rely on central control, let's assume this US bill impact Tier 3 networks.. it would cut off access to general public (homes, business, schools, etc..), but anyone connecting directly to a Tier 1 or Tier 2 networks would have normal access. A business could purchase a Tier 1 access if necessary and business demand it.

    For a global internet blackout, it would be necessary to all governments have a similar bill and act together, and what about all those tech companies that own the submarine cables? Would they agree to go broke? because some dude in the congress want to shutdown the internet?

    I would take it with a pinch of salt.

    Just pointing out, there is a lot at stake. I will say it once again "most politicians are IT illiterate."

    Worst scenario: if it really happens (I doubt it), then mesh networks would be a very cool replacement, we already have hundreds of communities connected using it.
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    No pun intended - really - I am a patient person. I am surprised, that so many people are not fed up with all of this crap.

    But I suppose that so many people just don't get it.

    The media constantly reports "the rise in cases" but we know that the tests are faulty. But people get stuck at the number of cases and ignore the small number of deaths. (And we have to consider how many of those deaths reported were really due to covid.)

    Now they are saying that even if you get the vaccine, it doesn't change things - you still need to wear a mask and social distance, and do not travel.

    So now they have to throw something else at us. We knew they were going to, but most of the sheeple didn't.

    Even so, when is enough going to be enough? Probably never. I expect that the people will allow themselves to be led to "wherever" they want to lead them.


    It really is sad and pathetic that so many people are sheeple.

    I have very little patience left for them. And that makes me sad.


    If I had enough money, I would buy a large island somewhere and call it Avalon Island - you would all be welcome. And also any of the sheeple that are willing to open their eyes a bit. Of course, if they didn't they wouldn't come in the first place.

    One thing I noticed is that whenever people in each of the democrat led states don't do what the governors want (or whatever), SUDDENLY the cases of covid goes up by the tens of thousands. Never fails. And then that locks everyone back down again. WITHOUT QUESTION! Why are they so obedient?

    I disobey whenever I can...
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    Hes speaking about an out right attack on the us gov by china... not the effectiveness of that attack... the real issue here is that we are very close to some sort of declared conflict due to nation state sponsored hacking...

    This is big and its not Russia (well, not majorly Russia anyway)

    and of course, biden is a china proxy, so thats a part of it too.
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    Mike Adams' latest Situation Update, just published. A few aspects of his speculation are almost certainly too extreme. But there's a lot of information in there, and some of the dots he joins are probably correct.

    And of course, this is China, and not Russia.
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