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    Default Re: What does the vaccine for Covid-19 actually do?

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    I wouldn't trust anything coming from either Reuters or YouTube, especially when we know that anything that's real gets banned within hours.
    Fair point, and I would never get the vax. But I need a better reason than I currently have to condemn all the vaxxed as the walking dead.

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    Default Re: What does the vaccine for Covid-19 actually do?

    How about Pfizer's own official documentation?

    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    http://82.221.129.208/pfizervax.pdf

    See on page 67 onward.

    PFIZER'S OWN DOCUMENTS STATE BOTH INHALATION AND SKIN CONTACT WILL TRANSMIT WHATEVER IS IN THE VAX FROM THE VACCINATED TO THE UNVACCINATED AND THAT THE RESULTS ARE DEVASTATING

    "
    1. If a man who was not vaccinated touches a vaccinated woman, or breathes any of the air she breathes, (in other words, walks by her in the office) and he then has sex with his wife, his wife can have an adverse event and she should avoid having children. 2. If a woman who was never vaccinated gets exposed to a woman who was vaccinated, she can:

    A: miscarry,
    B: spontaneously abort,
    C. poison a baby via her breast milk
    D: Have babies that have congitive difficulties.
    "

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    Default Re: What does the vaccine for Covid-19 actually do?

    Maybe a bit outside this thread but:

    Is there someone who got their hands on a "going to be used" vaccine bottle and put it through some analysis and/or microscope?

    To tell exactly wth is in there.

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    Quote Posted by Anna70 (here)
    (Reply to Gracy May's post)

    Goodness no, there is enough division being created as it is already. But if some sort of vaxx transmission is going on, it is important to investigate that. I would not leave my partner because he has had the AZ jab, or avoid his brother and sister-in-law who have had the Pfizer, although I would for instance think twice now about taking them to see my pregnant niece for the time being, if faced with that choice. Most people who were allowed to make their own decision as to whether or not to have the jab, would have done so with the best intention, based on the information they had at the time. The key thing is informed consent, and without information this cannot exist.


    I couldn’t agree with you more Anna. This isn’t about an us or them situation, or vilifying those who have or haven’t had it, it’s about personal choice and informed consent.

    Those who have had the jab have done so at their own free will...those who don’t want to have it should also have that same choice.

    If the jab is indeed shedding (in any way shape or form) it means those not wanting it aren’t being given that basic human right of free will when it comes to their own body and that is wrong.

    So if this IS happening, whether it be a temporary issue or a permanent thing, we should have the choice to decide that...just as those who have chose to go queue up and consent have too.

    If I had the jab and I felt there was even a tiny chance I could be harming those I love from shedding, I’d want to know. I wouldn’t want to look back in time to come and worry is it maybe my fault my daughter can’t have children or I caused a friend to miscarry etc.

    We can all see something is occurring, something isn’t right with these jabs... to what extent who knows.
    But despite what side of the fence we stand, we should want to know more to protect both ourselves and those around us too.
    Even though people have willingly gone forward for the jab for all their different reasons, can it be called free will when what the jab actually does and its ingredients have been hidden? Those that are in the know must have an antidote. I have heard Suramin mentioned. Has anyone investigated this further?

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    Even though people have willingly gone forward for the jab for all their different reasons, can it be called free will when what the jab actually does and its ingredients have been hidden? Those that are in the know must have an antidote. I have heard Suramin mentioned. Has anyone investigated this further?
    This is a really basic question concerning free will. I think I have to get over the feeling of frustration that I did report concerns to my family and friends and they discount what I suggest. Perhaps the deprivation of free will began long ago when people with herbal and other deep knowledge were hunted and murdered?

    The DOCTOR knows best and MUST be obeyed. You WILL OBEY. Some sort of insinuation was introduced into the consciousness that only certain "specialists" can help us with our maladies? Moreover, we the supplicants to the specialists cannot be let in on the ingredients or even our own "diagnosis"> Maybe that was when people associated medical treatment with pain, knives, poison and EXPECTED illness, debilitation and helplessness? Then people still feel letdown and angry when they can get no help. They will talk endlessly about the bad doctors and care... NOT KNOWING that the whole SYSTEM on which their hopes are based is BOLLOCKS.

    The pharmaceutical industry did not create the hole. They stepped in to deepen and widen the disconnect. In my whole life of study about various aspects of medicine/nursing/health, OVER and OVER new books have been written "Health Secrets they do not want you to know". "Your Doctor Your SELF" and people will read the miracle stories and be wowed that SOMEONE SURVIVED CANCER. How is it that decades and centuries and eons pass and people still cannot pass along essentially good news about us (and have it STICK)?

    In recent years, IMO the vaccination campaign has been the out picturing of a tortured human psyche who is at bottom line THREATENED, not empowered. Despite not wanting this latest round of jabbs, we hear so many apologize for themselves as in" "Polio was cured by vaccines. Small pox was cured by vaccines. I am NOT an antivaxxer". This is an absurd position for a human. The reason is that it is accepting that one MUST have a vaccine.

    If PUBLIC HEALTH demands vaccination as a PRINCIPLE, then TRY to bargain for what kind. It will be a futile battle as the very notion assumes no matter the price, it will be paid. The very notion is that mankind is toast without vaccines means that dead and injured individulas are just the price paid this time. IMO there is ONLY one reason people seek the jab and won't listen to me. They believe more in jabs than Humanity.
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    Default Re: What does the vaccine for Covid-19 actually do?

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    Quote Posted by Trisher (here)
    Even though people have willingly gone forward for the jab for all their different reasons, can it be called free will when what the jab actually does and its ingredients have been hidden? Those that are in the know must have an antidote. I have heard Suramin mentioned. Has anyone investigated this further?
    This is a really basic question concerning free will. I think I have to get over the feeling of frustration that I did report concerns to my family and friends and they discount what I suggest. Perhaps the deprivation of free will began long ago when people with herbal and other deep knowledge were hunted and murdered?

    The DOCTOR knows best and MUST be obeyed. You WILL OBEY. Some sort of insinuation was introduced into the consciousness that only certain "specialists" can help us with our maladies? Moreover, we the supplicants to the specialists cannot be let in on the ingredients or even our own "diagnosis"> Maybe that was when people associated medical treatment with pain, knives, poison and EXPECTED illness, debilitation and helplessness? Then people still feel letdown and angry when they can get no help. They will talk endlessly about the bad doctors and care... NOT KNOWING that the whole SYSTEM on which their hopes are based is BOLLOCKS.

    The pharmaceutical industry did not create the hole. They stepped in to deepen and widen the disconnect. In my whole life of study about various aspects of medicine/nursing/health, OVER and OVER new books have been written "Health Secrets they do not want you to know". "Your Doctor Your SELF" and people will read the miracle stories and be wowed that SOMEONE SURVIVED CANCER. How is it that decades and centuries and eons pass and people still cannot pass along essentially good news about us (and have it STICK)?

    In recent years, IMO the vaccination campaign has been the out picturing of a tortured human psyche who is at bottom line THREATENED, not empowered. Despite not wanting this latest round of jabbs, we hear so many apologize for themselves as in" "Polio was cured by vaccines. Small pox was cured by vaccines. I am NOT an antivaxxer". This is an absurd position for a human. The reason is that it is accepting that one MUST have a vaccine.

    If PUBLIC HEALTH demands vaccination as a PRINCIPLE, then TRY to bargain for what kind. It will be a futile battle as the very notion assumes no matter the price, it will be paid. The very notion is that mankind is toast without vaccines means that dead and injured individulas are just the price paid this time. IMO there is ONLY one reason people seek the jab and won't listen to me. They believe more in jabs than Humanity.

    Thank you

    I realized a while back that because much of modern medicine, practice and drugs - is based on the torture and suffering of millions - billions? of animals that are used for experiments..... it's based on evil / darkness of the soul - then the logical conclusion is that it's fruits must be rotten as well - even though it doesn't always feel like it and it all gets jumbled up with helpful and unhelpful things and people...

    Re you first paragraph - that I bolded...

    That makes me think of the Cathars that were ruthlessly stamped out and burnt at the stake and generally hounded out of existence around the 12th and 13th and 14th (ish) centauries...

    They were very much about healing - natural remedies and whatnot - and were considered to be an expression of primitive Christianity spreading out over Europe but especially remembered in Southern France -

    You yourself are probably a reincarnated Cathar maybe .... I first came across the Cathars when I stumbled on a book in a charity shop 45 years ago 'We Are One Another' by Arthur Guirdham - it's about group reincarnation -

    The Cathars have been 'with me' ever since and had a big revival in my life this year when they came (are coming) in real strong... I bought 'We Are One Another' and another of Arthur Guirdham's books 'The Cathars and Reincarnation' off ebay and re- read them in March -

    Don't want to go off topic too much but it's to do with what you said.... and there is a story about one of the last Cathars that was burnt at the stake - that he made a prophesy...


    https://inkblurb.com/sacred-france-m...ly%20returning.

    quote from the above random link about it....

    Quote The weather is perfect, warm, clear skies. We leave the bus and walk towards the laurel of Catharism. Legend denotes 700 years after the last Cathar was burnt at the stake, 1321, the laurel tree will blossom once again and Cathars will return. Certainly the tree is green and while they may never have disappeared completely, the Cathars are openly returning.
    700 years from 1321 is NOW....

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    https://inkblurb.com/sacred-france-m...ly%20returning.

    quote from the above random link about it....

    Quote The weather is perfect, warm, clear skies. We leave the bus and walk towards the laurel of Catharism. Legend denotes 700 years after the last Cathar was burnt at the stake, 1321, the laurel tree will blossom once again and Cathars will return. Certainly the tree is green and while they may never have disappeared completely, the Cathars are openly returning.
    700 years from 1321 is NOW....
    This is germaine to the issue of transmission of the jab... we have to get beyond the mind set of jab victims. What kind of mind set do we need? POWER of nature and LOVE.

    The Cathar's mind set is a way of life that is a real challenge to the totalitarians'

    Quote It has no fabric – only understanding
    It has no membership – save those who know they belong
    It has no rivals- because it is non-competitive
    It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve.
    I did not really know much about the Cathars and I will study them now.
    MAYBE that is the case... MAYBE we are the Cathars. I am listening to this based on what you posted.


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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    https://inkblurb.com/sacred-france-m...ly%20returning.

    quote from the above random link about it....

    Quote The weather is perfect, warm, clear skies. We leave the bus and walk towards the laurel of Catharism. Legend denotes 700 years after the last Cathar was burnt at the stake, 1321, the laurel tree will blossom once again and Cathars will return. Certainly the tree is green and while they may never have disappeared completely, the Cathars are openly returning.
    700 years from 1321 is NOW....
    This is germaine to the issue of transmission of the jab... we have to get beyond the mind set of jab victims. What kind of mind set do we need? POWER of nature and LOVE.

    The Cathar's mind set is a way of life that is a real challenge to the totalitarians'

    Quote It has no fabric – only understanding
    It has no membership – save those who know they belong
    It has no rivals- because it is non-competitive
    It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve.
    I did not really know much about the Cathars and I will study them now.
    MAYBE that is the case... MAYBE we are the Cathars. I am listening to this based on what you posted.

    So the Cathars were very earthy, mystic and French. ?

    When I read through Jaybee's post, then Delight's a thought came to me "Are they from France? That would freak me out." And I started to listen to the video and I am 6 minutes in. Wow. I have roots going back to France - don't know what part of France, but cool.

    Going back in...

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    ... I first came across the Cathars when I stumbled on a book in a charity shop 45 years ago 'We Are One Another' by Arthur Guirdham - it's about group reincarnation ...

    ... Legend denotes 700 years after the last Cathar was burnt at the stake, 1321, the laurel tree will blossom once again and Cathars will return. Certainly the tree is green and while they may never have disappeared completely, the Cathars are openly returning.

    700 years from 1321 is NOW....
    My apology for leaping onto this little tangent , but the Cathars thing jumped out at me, as one of my very dearest friends is highly likely connected to this. Would you know if there is a dedicated thread that goes into this more deeply? (I did look but did not see a specific one on this topic.)

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    ... I first came across the Cathars when I stumbled on a book in a charity shop 45 years ago 'We Are One Another' by Arthur Guirdham - it's about group reincarnation ...

    ... Legend denotes 700 years after the last Cathar was burnt at the stake, 1321, the laurel tree will blossom once again and Cathars will return. Certainly the tree is green and while they may never have disappeared completely, the Cathars are openly returning.

    700 years from 1321 is NOW....
    My apology for leaping onto this little tangent , but the Cathars thing jumped out at me, as one of my very dearest friends is highly likely connected to this. Would you know if there is a dedicated thread that goes into this more deeply? (I did look but did not see a specific one on this topic.)
    The only thread I see that discusses the Cathars (an important historical topic!) is this one.

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    Thank you very much, Bill!!! I've been meaning to look into this more deeply for ages!

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    Thank you so much to the folks here that introduced me to The Cathars this morning!
    You've set me off on a journey!

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