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    Hello ...
    Im curious to know if any members here have been vaccinated , either by choice or by external pressure because they are frontline workers .
    It would be ok also if you reported your spouse's or children's reactions .
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    My Father has had first injection of the Pfizer. Looking like the second one won't now go ahead. No adverse effects reported.

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    Hasn't happened to me yet, but it may very well become mandatory for me in the coming weeks due to not only having to rely on a hospital job for money, but actually the even more precarious position of being at several jobs, and worries of cross contamination for me having to occasionally be near covid patients.

    I did a self test with the PEG compound that is thought to be causing the adverse allergic reactions (PEG is in miralax) and my body had no response to it. Of course, it is different though if someone is puncturing the skin. One aspect of this that I think most don't consider is that both short and long term complications of vaccines is not just due to the compounds in the vaccine, but also the very nature of any procedure where the skin is punctured...and the Qi/lifeforce of the person doing the puncturing vs. the recipient. The mandatory flu jabs at work never caused me any issues besides mild muscle soreness, but I ALWAYS shielded myself against the Qi of the person doing it!

    For puncturing the skin, interestingly enough, the rate of serious adverse reactions from acupuncture, a more holistic remedy, is around 0.024%. Chances of fainting after a blood draw can go as high as 2.4%. Complications from getting a tattoo, as high as 1 in 10.

    The difference though, is that all of those procedures are generally elective. With the covid vaccine however, even though I think the wilder theories on microchips or nanobots in the vaccines are rabbit hole nonsense, I think there definitely will be massive healthy problems when they're forced onto the general population, not to mention it might not even be that effective.

    If I have to end up getting it in the coming weeks I will post my experience here.

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    I think we should pause for a moment and acknowledge that this is clearly not a "vaccine". This is a mRNA modification that causes the body to produce a COVID like substance that "should" prime the immune system to attack it.

    Apart from adjuvants, aborted human fetal cells and the usual substances in regular vaccines that can, with great effort be moderated, or cleansed form the body when the mRNA is taken it can change our DNA.

    Which may mean you are no longer "human" and therefore have no human rights. You will truly be chattle to be bought and sold freely by your owners. This has long thought to be legal fiction with every bizarre "freeman on the land" proponents arguing about birth registrations and the like...something is afoot, and I am not quite sure what it is or is likely to be.

    This would make a great movie or book......

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    Hello everyone! Here is what my friend from Germany wrote. "Already many old people have died after vaccination ... this is certainly not much advertised .... they say this is not from vaccination ... but this is not true ... they are afraid that people will go on strike or even refuse vaccinations"

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    Hello everyone! Here is what my friend from Germany wrote. "Already many old people have died after vaccination ... this is certainly not much advertised .... they say this is not from vaccination ... but this is not true ... they are afraid that people will go on strike or even refuse vaccinations"
    Just as I suspected would happen. The older you are, the less you need vaccines, but also the more frail. To subject a senior citizen to an experimental vaccine like mRNA one, seems very dangerous.

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    Hello everyone! Here is what my friend from Germany wrote. "Already many old people have died after vaccination ... this is certainly not much advertised .... they say this is not from vaccination ... but this is not true ... they are afraid that people will go on strike or even refuse vaccinations"
    Just as I suspected would happen. The older you are, the less you need vaccines, but also the more frail. To subject a senior citizen to an experimental vaccine like mRNA one, seems very dangerous.
    Not only adults are exposed to vaccines, but young ones too. I don't think this is a test. A trial is when a new vaccine is made and then tested. And it seems to me that this vaccine was prepared long ago as a weapon of destruction, and now it has been presented to us as a vaccine against the virus. But this is purely my personal opinion!

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    ...And it seems to me that this vaccine was prepared long ago ..
    Yes

    I'd thought the same thing really quite a while ago now. This I sense must have been prepared really quite some time ago and now seems the time to roll it out
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    ...And it seems to me that this vaccine was prepared long ago ..
    Yes

    I'd thought the same thing really quite a while ago now. This I sense must have been prepared really quite some time ago and now seems the time to roll it out
    It is impossible to make a vaccine in such a short time. I just wonder why people believe in all this, why don't they resist, do they really care about their own fate, the fate of their loved ones?

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    Just watching the British Bull****ting Corporation expounding ‘enforcement’ of vaccines imminently despite contraindications in elderly first recipients not responding well, due to compromising their immune systems.
    We are bombarded with ‘panic-mode’ news to persuade folk to get any vaccination just to get a holiday passport!
    There is absolutely no mention of normal seasonal flu infections, or those who are health-compromised due to the neglect of referrals during this scenario p, but any ‘deaths’ are attributed to Covid, frankly untrue.
    The BBC are catalysts of doom, pandering to the global pharmaceutical agendas, an absolute disgrace for truth and real journalism, agents of a communist agenda. AKA ‘right-think’ Orwellian subversion...
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    Default Re: Vaccination Feedback - from PA Members & their families .....

    The following graphic was provided by Dr. von Helden, a German physicist.
    It shows the outcome of the two main vaccines: Pfizer and Moderna

    Both have nearly same results. After the second shot >25% of the participants had headache (Kopfschmerz) and about 45% of the people had to fight with fatigue (Erschöpfung). One can say that every second person in the studies had one of these side effects.

    In fact that is no surprise, knowing that the human body produces significant amount of nitrosative stress (NO) when fighting viruses. These are known effects of nitrosative stress, because it destroys enzymes, vitamins and causes significant loss of trace elements.
    Of course nitrosative stress can kill old people too. Nearly all deaths in Germany after COVID-19 are in the age group >80 years.
    These people could therefore also die from the second vaccination shot.


    In the diagram there are 4 rows for each symptom: placebo 1st, placebo 2nd, real vaccine 1st, real vaccine 2nd.
    Also note the colours: grade 2: not able to work, grade 3: severe condition.

    In addition we do know nothing about the long term effects of those RNA-vaccines. Re-combination with other viruses in the body may create much dangerous virus species.
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    I posted in another thread about a medical doctor friend in Brazil was been forced to take the vaccine, well that happened a few days ago, he work for a public hospital and had no excuse about vaccination, it was pretty much like take it or lose your job. The vaccine in question is Coronavac (I think it is the Chinese one), let's see what happen to him, hopefully he will be fine.
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    I have recently read a post where a member mentioned he got the jab, that's why I'm bumping this thread.

    My 89-year-old mother recently got the second jab and I worry for her, so I'm wondering whether any Avalon members who have had the jab/s by now would care to share their experiences with us.

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    I met up with my best friend today, we've known each other since we were 11 and kept in touch through the years.

    She's had the jab (the first of two), she knew about the adverse effects and deaths but said that she had it because she's fed up of being cooped up and wants to get back to normal and go wherever she wants. What struck me though is that she's lost her sparkle, she was always bubbly and fun company but I've never seen her with so little energy. She has always been highly intuitive, I wonder if she will lose that ability though it wasn't something that I wanted to probe at the time.

    I'm worried for her and it's deepened my resolve not to take the vax.

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    About a month ago my parents got their first covid shot. I drove them there actually, and it felt like I was escorting them to their execution. It was an odd, eerie, unsettling feeling.

    They know how I feel about it all. Did I lecture them? No. Did I offer warnings? Not really. It would have been utterly pointless. They had their minds made up, and nothing was going to change that. Anything I said would have only resulted in an argument. The closest feeling to the one I had driving them to get their shots is the feeling I get when I know a hurricane is headed my way and I can't do a single thing about it but sit and wait.

    They were both fine after the first shot. But after the second, 2 weeks later, my Mom was in rough shape for a couple days. Laid up in bed with flu-like symptoms. But she was told to maybe expect those symptoms, so they were in no way alarming to her.

    My brother is a healthcare worker and also got the shot. This was months ago and he hasn't reported any unpleasant side effects

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    Just another anecdotal story but my father in law (61) received 2 doses of Pfizer and has been to the ER twice for chest pains since. I wouldn't say he is the healthiest guy out there but this all happened within weeks of his first/second shot.

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    I've posted elsewhere how 3 people acquainted with have expired within days of 2nd shot, but also one of brothers in law has been struggling for two weeks and very ill post his 2nd moderna. He swore to my sister he would not get the booster (myself and sisters are strongly against all this), but we know he did anyway..he fell so ill he couldnt eat (he's normally a voracious non stop eater), constant diahrea, eyes all red like he was punched, extreme fatigue. I begged to take him to the ER (before i put 2 and 2 together that he was suffering vacc reaction), his wife, one of my sisters, is out of town and was away for the worst of it. If he'd been genuinely concerned he had another illness I know he would've wanted to get medical attention. He didn't seem to have much reaction to the first shot.

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    While I have not received the injection, my family members who sought it had disturbing reactions ranging from nightmarish to simply unsettling. Oddly, and maybe it is some form of baffling cognitive dissonance, despite their apparent physical reactions afterward, these relatives marched along to get their subsequent injections only questioning their symptoms as ANYTHING other than an immune response to the Covid inoculation.  "Could it be (this)?  Could it be (that)?.. Should I be concerned? What should I do? What do you think it is?.. No, no it's definitely not a vaccine reaction."

    Four members in our family that I know of, have thus far received the injections. The first was my grandmother, who was shuttled to a clinic by concerned relatives just as soon as Pfizer and local hospitals made them available to the community. Per my aunt, who frantically called for advice afterward:

    That day, my grandmother was happy and capable when she left home, feeling reassured by the encouragement of family that she would soon be protected against the virus. She was without any deficiencies or known health problems, not on any medications, able to move, interact and do almost all things carefully on her own(except drive). When she returned home that day, she was still very well and even danced about jokingly. Then apparently within a two-hour span, she began coughing violently, lost mobility and started to vomit copious amounts of projectile black fluid that terrified her and overwhelmed my aunt.  Like something out of a horror movie or nightmare, it was everywhere and staining everything, without cessation. The sheer amount of liquid purged in the course of 12 hours and a complete lack of any odor to it, as there might typically be with old blood or vomit, was notably strange.

    My aunt called the hospital in desperation for an ambulance to come, but was told that they would not do anything at all to help my grandmother, that she would be better kept at home and then the person who answered the call flat-out refused to record information regarding the "possible" vaccine reaction.  Other doctors were called through the night and by morning, a medication was found to successfully stop the vomiting and help her sleep. At that point, my grandmother could no longer talk, see clearly, hear, move or eat on her own. She has been in bed since, on oxygen and is very frail now, but gratefully still with us. That occurred after a single injection. No causes have been mentioned by doctors or visiting nurses...she is basically in hospice now.

    My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.

    My sister, who is much younger, has also received the injection. I don't know which one, but think it was Moderna. Beginning the first day, she developed numerous symptoms from being sick, feverish, dizzy and having the typical huge circular rash "covid arm" reaction found in internet searches, to now developing numerous clustered clear blisters on her skin.

    Lastly, another very dear family member received the Moderna injection and has experienced noticeable cognitive decline and drastic personality changes in a short period of time- night and day type changes that we never could have imagined. That particular person is a little too close for me to describe in any more detail, but my heart goes out to anyone and their families who have been harmed by these seemingly new technologies.

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    Victoria, it's awful reading of these effects on your family. So far my family are not exhibiting long term effects but I'm worried for them. My Mother has been tired, but seems to be overcoming it. Soon I think I'll be the only one unvaccinated and I've already had a text from the Doctor and a letter from NHS to offer me the jab. Reading about your father in law however something occurred to me:

    Quote Posted by Victoria (here)

    My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.
    Could Brain Fog be a good fit for his symptoms? It's often closely linked to auto immune conditions. I suffer from a form of this myself if I ingest any gluten whatsoever. It's one of the reasons I don't want anything tinkering with my already trigger happy immune system. It got me wondering if the vax has triggered your father in law's immune system and he's now intolerant of something that he was previously ok with eating. It's a long shot, but maybe you could try him on a strict elimination diet to see if his symptoms improve? Then you can reintroduce foods until you identify the culprit.

    As I said, a long shot and there are of course other things which cause this, but it's action that can be taken and if it does work, as it does for me, then the only negative is a reduced choice in diet. At least this way you could eliminate one possibility. Same applies for your sister, the skin is one of the earliest warning signs I get that I've eaten something I shouldn't have.

    If either of them do try an elimination diet and there's any positive response it may be an indication that the vaccine could have unforeseen auto immune side effects?

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    Quote Posted by Victoria (here)
    While I have not received the injection, my family members who sought it had disturbing reactions ranging from nightmarish to simply unsettling. Oddly, and maybe it is some form of baffling cognitive dissonance, despite their apparent physical reactions afterward, these relatives marched along to get their subsequent injections only questioning their symptoms as ANYTHING other than an immune response to the Covid inoculation. "Could it be (this)? Could it be (that)?.. Should I be concerned? What should I do? What do you think it is?.. No, no it's definitely not a vaccine reaction."

    Four members in our family that I know of, have thus far received the injections. The first was my grandmother, who was shuttled to a clinic by concerned relatives just as soon as Pfizer and local hospitals made them available to the community. Per my aunt, who frantically called for advice afterward:

    That day, my grandmother was happy and capable when she left home, feeling reassured by the encouragement of family that she would soon be protected against the virus. She was without any deficiencies or known health problems, not on any medications, able to move, interact and do almost all things carefully on her own(except drive). When she returned home that day, she was still very well and even danced about jokingly. Then apparently within a two-hour span, she began coughing violently, lost mobility and started to vomit copious amounts of projectile black fluid that terrified her and overwhelmed my aunt. Like something out of a horror movie or nightmare, it was everywhere and staining everything, without cessation. The sheer amount of liquid purged in the course of 12 hours and a complete lack of any odor to it, as there might typically be with old blood or vomit, was notably strange.

    My aunt called the hospital in desperation for an ambulance to come, but was told that they would not do anything at all to help my grandmother, that she would be better kept at home and then the person who answered the call flat-out refused to record information regarding the "possible" vaccine reaction. Other doctors were called through the night and by morning, a medication was found to successfully stop the vomiting and help her sleep. At that point, my grandmother could no longer talk, see clearly, hear, move or eat on her own. She has been in bed since, on oxygen and is very frail now, but gratefully still with us. That occurred after a single injection. No causes have been mentioned by doctors or visiting nurses...she is basically in hospice now.

    My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.

    My sister, who is much younger, has also received the injection. I don't know which one, but think it was Moderna. Beginning the first day, she developed numerous symptoms from being sick, feverish, dizzy and having the typical huge circular rash "covid arm" reaction found in internet searches, to now developing numerous clustered clear blisters on her skin.

    Lastly, another very dear family member received the Moderna injection and has experienced noticeable cognitive decline and drastic personality changes in a short period of time- night and day type changes that we never could have imagined. That particular person is a little too close for me to describe in any more detail, but my heart goes out to anyone and their families who have been harmed by these seemingly new technologies.


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