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    Default 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


    So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

    First, is this real?

    I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

    What do you all think?

    Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

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    So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

    First, is this real?

    I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

    What do you all think?

    Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?
    Alex Jones is not to be trusted. He threw Wolfgang Halbig under the bus when questioning the Sandy Hook Elementary School hoax was no longer serving him.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    A few years ago until up to 2018 or so (hence also after the Trump election win and during Qanon times) I used to watch Infowars or Alex Jones Channel on YT and sometimes read on their site. I never saw a lot about Qanon material there. I remember once I even searched for it and did not find a lot. Certainly he did not ignore it entirely but I think he did not overtly push or promote it either.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    i think we will see many fleeing various ships. no different than in politics, careers and with money on the line. Q was never defined. was it a person,a consortium of military?? i never knew , and only recently heard the name Ezra Cohen Watnick associated with the term. But why is Q hard to believe in? its as easy as not believing. it either is, or isnt.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    In Glasgow we don't call it 'Deep State'. We call it 'Deep Anus' because it stinks and people like the 17th letter of alphabet brigade, Alex Jones, Robert Steele and many others like bending us over a barrel and pulling our pants down, the cheeky chaps.

    The link works, but the broadcast won't play automatically. It's Kev Baker at his impish best back in September already having had a gutful of the hopium and sell outs.

    http://tfrlive.com/trusttheplan-or-s...eepanus-94703/

    I believe Alex Jones might have come to the game as an unmarked card in the early days, but I don't know for sure. At any rate he appears to have been compromised quite some time ago unfortunately.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


    So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

    First, is this real?

    I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

    What do you all think?

    Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

    In my view, he was, is and will continue to be controlled opposition. He acts as a lightning rod, attracting dissident voices, offering a platform but, by association, fatally tainting their capacity to reach a wider mainstream audience. The cartoonish gestures, the overacting, it helps to set a particular tone.


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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Alex Jones has [almost] always been critical of QAnon.

    Here's an interesting and detailed 5 minute audio segment from 8 August 2020, in which he lays out what he knows.
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 12th January 2021 at 16:35.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


    So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

    First, is this real?

    I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

    What do you all think?

    Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?
    Alex jones has been talking against the Q movement for a long time, he views it as being bogus, a hijack of the MAGA movement so he is being consistent with this narrative. He always claimed to know the original setup of Q, that this was then taken over by a separate group.
    You must think what you will, I consider Alex to be sincere in his beliefs, I do not personally think he is a NWO stooge at all-he is a genuine Texan maverick who set up his own media company, he is a flawed human being like the rest of us, I don't buy all the scuttlebut about Alex Jones, it is mostly envy and political disagreement.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Alex to me is a showman, a preacher, a salesman, a good ole boy and lots of Texas snake oil thrown in the mix. He has sincere beliefs and has been instrumental in pulling back the curtain that obscures many active truths. However, he has been allowed to continue as controlled opposition because he is just in the other side of credible and that can used to delegitimize his info as necessary. Alex is not above getting played - he realizes that and it makes him angry. We have to use enormous discernment and a hefty dose of critical thinking- always asking ourselves “who benefits”?

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    I rarely watch InfoWars, but I have seen clips were other hosts enthusiastically support Qanon. One of them said repeatedly and emphatically "You must believe that Q-anon is real and true", basically turning belief in Q into a fundamentalist religion.

    I don't know how much Jones exercises editorial power over his other show hosts or expects them to toe the line is his wake, so I don't hold him responsible for that.

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    Exclamation Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102

    So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

    First, is this real?

    I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

    What do you all think?

    Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?
    Its real ... but - e v e r y t h i n g - is context ... realize how many FAKE people can pose as "Qanon" or Q and even MORE useful idiots do not use any real discernment skills spreading so much BS filled with tons of wacko theories mixed with SOME elements of truth but NO accountability nor transparency is doomed to failure. All "good intentions" of original Qanon / Q people can so easily be hijacked you really have to be stupid, blind & deaf NOT to see this coming.
    • I know I sound harsh and unfiltered ... but am truly FED UP just like Alex Jones is (maybe even more angry than Alex that so many seem not get it, or do not want to).
    Have challenged so many different types of "Q followers" on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook since day one they started so am totally aware how they respond to me and I always defended the ORIGINAL intent of the Q network "White (or grey) Hat Hackers", people exposing the pedo-rings sex-slave human trafficking, government insiders (whistler-blowers) with a conscience leaking stuff that can lead to arrests being made etc. etc.) at the same time I warned them how easy it is to hijack this concept by those who want to use it against all of us.

    cheers,
    John
    • related older insights from me and i quote:"

    No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    Lyran.Sun [quote]: "Okay broski I wanna bring forward some matters to you. You already know the far left globalist are going mental on their various agendas alongside implementing their transhumanist agenda. They run social media & will retaliate to anyone who opposes their narrative. I suspect you are now on gangstalking blacklisted target list. If you are giving yourself a public image & reputation on activist work such as opposing 5G setups. They will mark you as a potential threat. Its always better to use an anonymous identity in activist work. If you are aggressive in your approach they will counter it ruthlessly. There is the counter operative white hats who are higher authority to the globalist. There are the various factions of light masons. If you want to solve issues directly with them. Setup a diplomatic sit down with either the white hats or light masons & discuss the matters. That is a better solution. Hope you consider my suggestions. Safe." [unquote]
    • My response:
    @Lyran.Sun I do not feel the need to compromise nor to be "diplomatic" to assumed "white moles" or "white masons" or "white insiders" or "white hats" when it is obvious all smoke & mirrors + quicksand + minefield.
    Just using my own intuition aka unbound creative mind which is endless I do not mind having set-backs, as I always get help one way or the other ... because for any action there is an equal reaction (cosmic law).

    No need to "play a role" to master "the game" that is played, If I did I lose contact with my true-self that is beyond their (loop-hole) rules & (artificial) boundaries.

    "Perception Wars" can only be won if you have contact with the "neutral observer" awareness that is beyond any duality thinking and is always effortless if you let go of all fears 100% ... Because of my Near Death Experience ... I do not need any beLIEve system to operate on this Earth anymore. I fear no death, is part of letting go of mass conditioning that is programmed in to all of us.

    Inspiring all kinds of insiders questioning their own "role play" within the corrupt system, because am beyond "diplomatic", beyond fear based compromises.

    No need to be nice to anyone, because that is a mind trap. You are actually not helping people "playing nice" if you feel you are actually cover up what you really think or feel but helping the system by "playing nice" all the time.

    Sure I can get things done being anonymous, but at the same time many can hijack my identity as well, posing as me spreading dis-info. Which is even easier when you work via fake names to begin with. Anonymous network like "Qanon" etc. can not be held accountable because there are always 1000 excuses to hide yourself from if you chose to be a part of that system of thinking. No big deal. So obvious to me.

    I rather want see the real deal directly! Sure it is "fascinating" & sometimes perfectly makes sense, but still it can easily be hijacked by abusers anytime anyplace.

    The growth of Alternative Media (Video & Social Media) platforms is growing much much faster than you think!

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    Ps. Am Dutch, English is not my native language, please forgive me if I express myself not in a 100% perfect way.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Wonder if this has anything to do with it.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-...l-warfare.html

    Mike Adams:
    The real story of how US Secret Service tried to set up Alex Jones to be charged with terrorism on Jan 6th. But they failed and Jones averted the trap. (This is based in part on my private phone call with Alex Jones yesterday).

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    Thumbs up Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Alex Jones and Owen Shroyer break down the news that the Wall Street Journal actually admitted to making false claims about Alex Jones, and clarified that he was calling for peaceful action and attempting to lead the agitated crowd around the Capitol.

    Wall Street Journal Retracts Claim That Alex Jones "Encouraged" Capitol Storming
    To all Alex Jones haters, do you really think Wall Street Journal and the likes do not have their own agenda of framing key-people for decades? False accusations & misrepresentations being repeated over and over and over until most assume "must" be "true" then ...

    The network of MSM lies 24/7 is so systematical & huge that people assume they "must" be "true" then become an AGENT to ridicule even more with conjecture full of cheap assumptions & "hear say".

    Using, what I call "kicking an open door" rhetoric that have some "funny logic" within the statement but NOT necessarily reflect nuance & the bigger picture ... only serving own bias & close-mindfulness to "feel better" NOT to consider anything Alex Jones has to offer.

    Am used to study 1000s lame & pathetic excuses people use NOT to investigate what is really happening ... I get numb when reading all cheap assumptions about AJ. Yes he has flaws and I can name them easily. But so much he warned about 2 decades ago is unfolding by the day now ... same for David Icke.

    Rhetorical question: Does (or must) someone need to be "liked" first ... before people consider what is said? ... Or can you see beyond that and use only that what can lead to your own path/journey of discoveries? ... Practicing own discernment-skills giving credit to those who stood up to fight for justice.


    --o-O-o--


    “First they censored Alex Jones on multiple big platforms - but many didn’t watch him, so they said nothing.

    Then they censored moderate conservatives - but many aren’t conservatives, so they said nothing.

    Then they censored the current sitting president - but half of USA didn’t vote for him, so they said nothing.

    Now they gonna (want to) take over (or take away) communities, jobs, houses, rights, children, freedoms and most can not say anything about it anymore”

    How the hell does it come to that? ... Anyone?

    We suppose to believe nobody saw this #Agenda2030 "The Great Reset" coming?

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    This Forum Thread Title:"Fleeing the Ship (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)" has 2 assumptions:

    01. He suppose to be "on the ship" which he never was ... Alex Jones had mixed ideas about it for a long time (just like me). Part of the original Qanon could be genuine with good intentions but most is totally hijacked by posers & instigators.

    02. Allegedly Alex does "not support" Qanon ... assuming he "fully" DID support Qanon ... again it is and was a MIXED assessment that has been explained ad nauseam ... but most who like to judge from the side-lines (may) never heard that (what else is new?).
    • It comes to a point it is getting really annoying.
    Throw all nuance out of the window is what the majority tend to do in 2020 and I guess it will only get worse in 2021.

    ... and yes, at times, I can be guilty of not always being nuanced myself but I eventually adding some disclaimers/elaborations as nobody is 100% perfect.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    • To sum it all up for the doubters:



    Self-humor is the best defense against all madness
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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Alex Jones and his brand have been in trouble since 2017 when his wife left him and sued him for custody of their children. During the subsequent legal proceedings in which she claimed that he was unhinged and unstable and subject to wild beliefs and behaviours, he recanted his previous claims about a lot of things, among them QAnon and the existence of a "Deep State" cabal. His legal team said that he had used these issues to generate an audience that would support him financially - that he did not believe in what he had been expounding for so many years - that it was all theatre. He lost the case and custody of his children. Likewise, when he was sued in a real court of law by the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, he again claimed that he didn't really believe that it had been faked. Once the fantasy bubble that he had created for himself and his listeners/viewers was pricked by those occupying a genuine reality, it burst.

    Since then, of course, he has recanted again saying that he DID believe the conspiracy theories that he yelled into his microphone (Gay frogs people! Wake up!) and has had some success in regaining an audience, but peoples' memories are not short enough for him to have yet rebuilt his edifice of lies and hatred into the desired source of income that he seeks. But it's not for lack of trying. I'm betting that he isn't ever going to go legit - screaming and scamming is all he knows.

    Reality. What a concept.

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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    • older quote (insight) 0f mine that will be 100% relevant forever:
    Nobody is "Controlled Opposition" (called "shills") on the soul-assumption "because" they are "allowed" to continue on big platforms. ... I can give you so many VALID reasons why this is a 100% BASELESS assumption serving nobody and can not be seen as the "ultimate evidence" of anything. It is in my view extreme POOR conjecture at best.

    Many who uses that assumption because they may not like the person, or it is just jealousy, or they can not follow (comprehend) the person or they find him not in alignment with their (dogmatic) christian beliefs or they repeat the troll narrative without realizing it.

    If anyone starts injecting "CONTROLLED OPPOSITION" without real substantial tangible evidence it is a DISSERVICE to us all. In my book people doing that are using tactics that is exactly what control-freak "oppositions" do! ... People assuming they "fight tyranny" creating a new form of tyranny (thought policing others in to a new mold ... an one-sided "correct" mind-set).

    And then you have SOME people with low self-esteem projecting their fears (incompetence) on others assuming it "helps" to inject (baseless) "controlled opposition" worries/insinuations.

    I had similar (heated) discussions in the past about the assumption that "only dead whistler-blowers are for real". The: "If you are not dead you are not legit" assumption. This discussion started shortly after Milton William (Bill) Cooper (who I personally met in 1993) died in 2001. Some of his fanatic followers claimed that as long as Alex Jones is alive that suppose to be "evidence" he is "not legit' aka "controlled opposition" ... I told them Bill Cooper had to be alive (longer time) to do his job as a whistler-blower so back then if we apply same "logic" he was "not legit"? Do you see the stupidity of it? Total Logic-Fallacy.
    • But I DO agree with the "Martyr Effect" when some one dies who try to expose incredible corruptions & deceptions at high places ... Which can increase the focus of attention of so called "neutral" people (silent majority) that would normally not consider to research what is claimed but may do it much faster after some-one died! ... This effect is one of many reasons why they let people live if they created to much exposure already. It only draws more attention if a (profound) whistler-blower dies.
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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    .....Likewise, when he was sued in a real court of law by the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, he again claimed that he didn't really believe that it had been faked. Once the fantasy bubble that he had created for himself and his listeners/viewers was pricked by those occupying a genuine reality, it burst....
    Are you insinuating that he created the notion that Sandy Hook was a hoax?

    As I recollect, it was the bizarre behaviour of the parents of the victims (think Robbie Parker et al), the even more bizarre behaviour of the soon to die coroner, the identity of the assailant (him or his brother etc...), the appalling crisis actors, the disused appearance of the school, inside and out.......and let's not forget the testimony of school safety inspector, Wolfgang Halbig. I could continue but, as I'm sure you are well aware, there are several threads here dedicated to the subject, all brimming with valid reasons to question the validity of Sandy Hook, with or without the blessing of some co-intel pro clown.
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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

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    Alex Jones has [almost] always been critical of QAnon.

    Here's an interesting and detailed 5 minute audio segment from 8 August 2020, in which he lays out what he knows.
    That's a good clip and AJ is far more credible when he's not gurning for effect. I think better of him for listening to it, he's someone I've avoided for years, but at least in this instance he looks to have tried to show some discernment rather than chasing the quick buck.

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • Nobody is "Controlled Opposition" (called "shills") on the soul-assumption "because" they are "allowed" to continue on big platforms.
    I agree that its lazy thinking to just immediately label everyone who has continued presence as controlled opposition.

    I do however take that into account when assessing someone, as well as the level of external promotion they get from channels which look well integrated into the mainstream. If your goal is influencing the masses, allowing some fringe discussion to take place helps to validate the system. As long as you control who gets pushed to wider audiences these channels could operate more as a release valve or a honey trap to steer dissenting opinion in a safe direction.

    Think of the city of Zion in the Matrix movies. It's tolerated by the machines because it's not a threat, but as soon as they think it's grown too large they wipe it out. If Infowars continues year after year to attract a mass audience, is it a threat or a release valve and honey trap?
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    Default Re: 'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
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    So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

    First, is this real?

    I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

    What do you all think?

    Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?
    He is over the top to me, more like an actor than anything else, also for what I heard (sorry I can't prove that) his family are Cia assets, Alex are just playing his part, there is quite a few info about it available on Usenet.. last time I decided to watch some video on info wars, the video stops every 5 minutes to adverts some ****ty products to boost your health haahah I gave up the video in the third adv. no thanks.

    I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt, although I like those films about NWO he made in his early career.
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