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    Quote Posted by Anka (here)
    The 5th century is the most fruitful period of the old Armenian literature, which begins with the invention of the Armenian alphabet (405-406) by Mesrop Mashtots (Master, 360 / 361-440) who is a supreme titan of writing. In 407, the first book was translated into Armenian with Armenian letters, the Book of Proverbs of Solomon. The first sentence written in Armenian letters is:

    ճանաչել զիմաստութիւն եւ զխրատ, իմանալ զբանս հանճարոյ
    "To know wisdom and instruction, to know the words of the genius"

    But that's just "history" your language began with oral songs and legends long before it was written (as in our country), many philologists say that the Armenian language could not have suddenly become so clear, strong, beautiful, with a perfect grammar, with a special power of elasticity, plastic and with a very rich vocabulary, than from the power of much older energies.

    Even though many are looking, not everyone sees.
    While others seek evidence with evidence, information flows freely in the blood of Armenians, something that can never be confiscated.

    More than 160 years ago, more precisely in 1847, the writer Gheorghe Asachi printed in Romania, the first alphabet in the Armenian language entitled "The key to the reading of Mesrobian letters".
    Although this is the first textbook published in the Romanian Lands, schools have existed since the 15th century in many monasteries that have studied the aspect of your language so beautiful Inna!

    What I want to emphasize is that identity must be preserved through faith and language and the supremely incomparable mystical religious philosophical culture that is unattainable for many. I know how hard it is for those who want to break any ancestral faith.
    That is why I support the ideal of the spirit of my language alive, I protect it every day, this being the spirit of the people I belong to.

    Remain strong Inna, the wounds of Armenia and the tragic fate of the Armenian people for their liberation struggles, resonate all over the world Inna, is not a private show, it is the suffering of people and an ancestral history that was written nowhere but in the soul to the whole people, a freedom of the intangible cultural heritage and an epic of humanity in us, to be a good intention to stop the occupation and massacre.

    When leaders such as "Prince Charles" and the prime ministers of Australia and New Zealand gather each year in April to commemorate the Battle of Gallipoli during World War I, the spirits of the 1.5 million butchered Christian Armenians they will march with them. A genocide of the twentieth century that few talk about and many forget.

    I am writing here about the small crossing of Armenians with the history of a forgotten part of Romania, for example the Romanian writer Nicolae Iorga and prime minister who founded Armenian churches and communities in my country, said that:
    "Armenians are hardworking, generous, pure, very open and kind, and bearers of a higher Eastern and Western civilization." I, for one, will never doubt your resistance!

    * Learn the Armenian language

    *Սորվինք հայերէն լեզուն

    can save a life someday,

    With care,
    Anca
    I am grateful to you and your country!
    Շնորհակալ եմ քեզ և քո երկրին։
    You know, the worst thing is that Armenia now is governed by Turkish and Soros' spies who ruin everything. They use severe means, it is a nonsense when the rulers of the country tell azeris where are Armenian soldiers located or give Armenian passports to azeris and turks. It is a huge problem, they made horrible conditions for our soldiers during the war, but those young boys didn't surrender. They are true heroes.
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    Thank you Inna!

    Romania has also been under Ottoman occupation for years, that is, I like ice cream and Turkish delight, but only to the point where my ancestors paid hard. Turkey also has cordial relations with Russia, and they "speak" geographically, over us. We are always ready to be on guard, because we also know what the Russian occupation means.
    While we knock on the door of the European Union and no one hears us, NATO tells us what to do, Russia starts some moves against us (more threatening to stop the supply of gas) and the Turks "follow" us as well. Everyone "wants us", but it's expensive for the Turks anyway. In my country, we still have resources, people, water, gold, faith and nature.
    I know what it means for my own government to sell its country.

    As a matter of fact only, history says:
    The "blood tribute" was a form of tribute demanded by the Ottoman Empire to conquered or vassal countries. 300 children up to the age of 7 were taken from the Romanian lands to be Islamized and turned into elite warriors capable of conquering the whole of Europe, in the name of the Prophet and the Sultan.
    It seems a myth, but the elite troops of the Turks, who instilled fear in the Christian armies and in any army facing the sultans, called themselves the "new army" in Turkish. And they were to be feared. They were raised for war and the "job description" was probably passed on to the current interests of the world.

    However, most of these warriors were slaves, recruited from childhood and trained in Turkish barracks. For their recruitment, a law was given that defied the very perceptions of Islam.

    Even in Romania, Count Vlad Dracul (who is not "Dracula" and does not drink people's blood, except in the terrifying and useless imagination of Bram Stoker), sent his two sons as a contribution to the Turkish army, the Romanian country being under Ottoman occupation.

    But it's just history, right? With the difference that they cultivated the art of war (this being more of a kind of long-term critical "maintenance", for feeding bad interests), and now especially in favor of supporting petty interests.

    However, there are more than historical implications, more than the struggle for occupation, more than the war itself, I believe that the ancestral heritage of the Armenian people has greater implications than the general aspect, and you are entitled and brave to investigate this.

    Take care!
    And all this to be just human.

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    Quote Posted by Anka (here)
    Thank you Inna!

    Romania has also been under Ottoman occupation for years, that is, I like ice cream and Turkish delight, but only to the point where my ancestors paid hard. Turkey also has cordial relations with Russia, and they "speak" geographically, over us. We are always ready to be on guard, because we also know what the Russian occupation means.
    While we knock on the door of the European Union and no one hears us, NATO tells us what to do, Russia starts some moves against us (more threatening to stop the supply of gas) and the Turks "follow" us as well. Everyone "wants us", but it's expensive for the Turks anyway. In my country, we still have resources, people, water, gold, faith and nature.
    I know what it means for my own government to sell its country.

    As a matter of fact only, history says:
    The "blood tribute" was a form of tribute demanded by the Ottoman Empire to conquered or vassal countries. 300 children up to the age of 7 were taken from the Romanian lands to be Islamized and turned into elite warriors capable of conquering the whole of Europe, in the name of the Prophet and the Sultan.
    It seems a myth, but the elite troops of the Turks, who instilled fear in the Christian armies and in any army facing the sultans, called themselves the "new army" in Turkish. And they were to be feared. They were raised for war and the "job description" was probably passed on to the current interests of the world.

    However, most of these warriors were slaves, recruited from childhood and trained in Turkish barracks. For their recruitment, a law was given that defied the very perceptions of Islam.

    Even in Romania, Count Vlad Dracul (who is not "Dracula" and does not drink people's blood, except in the terrifying and useless imagination of Bram Stoker), sent his two sons as a contribution to the Turkish army, the Romanian country being under Ottoman occupation.

    But it's just history, right? With the difference that they cultivated the art of war (this being more of a kind of long-term critical "maintenance", for feeding bad interests), and now especially in favor of supporting petty interests.

    However, there are more than historical implications, more than the struggle for occupation, more than the war itself, I believe that the ancestral heritage of the Armenian people has greater implications than the general aspect, and you are entitled and brave to investigate this.

    Take care!
    I know about jenissaries from history course in school. It was a cruel step of killing one nation by the hands of it's sons. I know that those jenissaries were taken from family at very young age when they didn't have any clue who they were and the biological features of humans were used for making perfect soldiers.
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    I can't find the link, but someone (Greg Hallet?) said Lawrence of Arabia homosexually recruited the Saudi royal family into the New World Order? Something like that.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    I can't find the link, but someone (Greg Hallet?) said Lawrence of Arabia homosexually recruited the Saudi royal family into the New World Order? Something like that.
    Some resources say that he was raped by turkish soldiers because he was the leader of arab rebels in Turkey. He must be homosexual as still loved turks after being humiliated. Maybe his mission was also connected with making ties in such a way to recruit Saudi royal family.
    Homosexuality still exists in frames of Saudi royal family.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11492867
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    Alex Thomson, with a *well-connected background, in his podcast in October 2020 before the sudden cessation in hostilities, entitled: “Faraway People Of Whom We Know Nothing”? Azerbaijan and Turkey’s War on Armenia - seems so apt to this thread.

    He asks in this latest updated podcast published this week:
    "We were prompted to revert to the topic in this new episode by the unexpected end to the war shortly after recording the last episode. The strategic hilltop city of Shushi (Şuşa) fell to Azerbaijani forces with barely a shot fired — all the more inexplicable given Armenian control of the only proper road up to the town. Was there a betrayal?"
    *Alex Thomson - Bio: After learning what today’s British Establishment was all about at Rugby School and Cambridge, Alex Thomson served in a Christian mission in the former Soviet Union witnessing the planned destruction of a region of the world, before spending the rest of his twenties as a GCHQ officer. He moved to the Netherlands aged thirty in 2009 and has spent the last decade more quietly as a translator and interpreter and a researcher of networked evil. For the past five years, he has presented his emerging findings via UK Column and the British Constitution Group, where his specialisms are geopolitics, religious history and comparative constitutionalism.

    Here he is in conversation again with Gevorg Virats - the audio available via the below link, and downloadable through there.

    Source: UK Column - Eastern Approaches

    It makes for interesting listening even if one doesn't subscribe completely to the outcomes drawn. Still, both men know their onions, and this is historically educational and quite interesting for those of us who do not know too much about Armenia.

    Note here mention of the Crown as it relates to what the late Tony Benn once described, accurately, as, [The Crown]..is a concrete emplacement, a state within a state, surrounded by barbed-wire, which is always in power….”

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    Guns, gold and gas: A precooked ceasefire and British soft power

    The last episode [4] of the Eastern Approaches Podcast, published in October 2020, was recorded during the fighting phase of the Nagorno-Karabakh War between oil-rich Western ally Azerbaijan and resource-poor Russian ally Armenia over the ethnic-Armenian highland enclave of Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), which foreign countries recognise as part of Azerbaijan despite the Armenian locals' assertion of self-determination in response to a genocide that was beginning to be perpetrated upon them during the breakup of the Soviet Union.

    We were prompted to revert to the topic in this new episode by the unexpected end to the war shortly after recording the last episode. The strategic hilltop city of Shushi (Şuşa) fell to Azerbaijani forces with barely a shot fired — all the more inexplicable given Armenian control of the only proper road up to the town. Was there a betrayal? Did Russia seize the moment as a pretext for a strategically useful permanent presence [5] in this narrow bottleneck zone between Turkey and the Turkic republics of Central Asia? Is the West angling for a new pipeline route that doesn't have to dog-leg around Armenia [6] inconveniently?

    In this episode, we look first to Azerbaijan's glove-puppet role on behalf of its big brother Turkey, whose strained regional relations we considered in the first podcast [7], and for Israel, whose officers were caught in 2017 [8] operating military drones to shoot Armenian soldiers as a sales gimmick [9]. Turkish drones, with Ukrainian engines (and now licensed for Saudi manufacture [10] too), and Israeli drones have increasingly been swinging the fortunes of wars between third-party countries. Their effectiveness is not perfect [11] but both countries' focus on drone production seems to have inaugurated an era of drone warfare, in which middle-tier powers with cash to spend can wipe out better-drilled and better-motivated troops despite the latter's home-front advantage.

    Other key observations in the first half of the podcast, before we get on to the British and American deep state interests, include:

    - the limits of any alleged parallels with Kosovo, Ukrainian regions and Transnistria (Moldova), given the different international law situations of the territories in question;

    - Russia's strategic decision to concentrate on effective weaponry of immediate effect to ensure national survival in the face of Western defence outspending;

    - the drawbacks for any small nation of relying on a Russian, or any other power's, "friendly" security blanket;

    - the rise of Turkey's game-changing alliances with former Communist countries skilled in military engineering, notably Ukraine [12] and Hungary;

    - and the three-way contention between Turkey, Russia and France (in the "European Defence Union" guise) for hegemony in the Middle East.

    The second half of the podcast evaluates the longer-term situation on the ground, now that the shooting is over so unexpectedly soon.

    Gevorg Virats offers the observation, surprising perhaps to some, that European interests and Russian interests are unlikely to clash severely enough to lead to warfare, but that Turkish interests and Russian interests very much could catalyse war in the region.

    As for US interests in the region, they are no longer decisive; they are quite obviously split between the originally Marxist neoconservatives (whose overt loyalty has hopped to the Republican Party), who adulate Big Oil, and the "Biden-Harris" Administration, with its "zero-carbon" obsession (typically regarded by Russian-speaking analysts as a City of London model of economic warfare to collapse the price of oil to destroy geopolitical adversaries). We explore these internal Washington tensions as seen from the former Soviet Union.

    Also in the final half-hour of the podcast, we turn to British interests in the region. Is Britain, in its foreign policy in the region, now a glorified shill for Ankara? Who leads that pro-Azeri British foreign policy — the FCDO (Foreign Office) or BP?

    Gevorg Virats recalls the era of formation of the republics around the Caspian, in the years immediately following the First World War (before they fell to the Red Army), and goes so far as to state that Azerbaijan could not have come into being without the corporate Crown's interests shaping the field. He also notes that no proof has been forthcoming that Armenian President Armen Sargsyan ever renounced his British citizenship.

    The implicit conclusion of our discussion is that the USA is no longer seriously in the running for hegemony in the Caucasus and that the British deep state is playing the role of economic éminence grise, out for resources and control of key nodes. Should we feel pity for outgunned, deceived Armenia? Not according to Gevorg Virats; it has just eluded the clutches of "utterly immoral" oil wealth and its enfeebling entanglements, which boil down to "considering a pile of dosh before your own citizens' interests".

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    Links
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    [1] https://www.ukcolumn.org/international
    [2] https://soundcloud.com/ukcolumn
    [3] https://soundcloud.com/ukcolumn/east...ish-soft-power
    [4] https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/far...ys-war-armenia
    [5] https://oc-media.org/russian-peaceke...h-near-hadrut/
    [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku%E..._Pipeline).svg
    [7] https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/wha...rhood-tensions
    [8] https://www.timesofisrael.com/licens...or-azerbaijan/
    [9] https://www.timesofisrael.com/suicid...s-during-show/
    [10] https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned...turkish-drones
    [11] https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/is...rritory-657760
    [12] https://www.defensenews.com/industry...ll-cost-turkey
    [13] https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Guns, gold and gas: A precooked ceasefire and British soft power http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/guns...p;via=ukcolumn
    [14] https://www.facebook.com/sharer/shar...ish-soft-power
    [15] https://www.ukcolumn.org/print/artic...ish-soft-power
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