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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    If there is a ratio of 1:10000 or even 10:10000 severe adverse effects it might take a while for them to reach a group of 100 people, I'd imagine. It's a waiting game for now. Let's hope you are right.
    Well on the other hand, I know three people who have died OF COVID, not with it. The reports of deaths and side effect apparently reported on this thread suggest I should know at last that many who have had severe side effects - or worse.

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    With this tsunami of supposed deaths and serious Covid vaccine injuries, I'm really surprised a good few of these reports haven't made their way onto social media. Even it they are quickly removed, I'd expect to see one or two get through briefly on my local groups. But none - not one. There are reports from dozens of people I know reporting a day or two of flu-like symptoms at worst, and usually just a sore arm for a few days and nothing else. I think I'd have heard of any deaths or very serious side effects by now.
    Given that I live near the University of Michigan (big hospital and medical campus) I interact with dozens of people on a day to day basis who have gotten either one or two vaccinations from Pfizer/Moderna. All of them have been fine with the exception of one lady who had a moderate allergic reaction that was quickly cleared up. Mostly they just experienced mild flu symptoms like you observed.

    Many of these people are doctors and nurses who have weekly contact with Covid patients, and none have had ADE reactions when encountering the live virus as some alternative outlets are hyperventilating about. While I do believe there is a valid discussion to be had about vaccinations contributing to the rise of autoimmune disorders and other issues, it's something that shows up when looking at large numbers and meta data. The more dramatic claims of immediate reactions being made in alternative media outlets are, as usual, 99% nonsense.

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    I do believe, that in the context of this particular flu, it is valid to question whether a $50,000,000,000/year solution is and will continue to be necessary.
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    Default Re: Vaccination Injuries On Record for Covid19

    There's a little more info on the 'Possible side effects from the Covid vaccine' thread

    I posted a link to a government headed document, from a uk gov domain, that I found floating round social media listing 'spontaneous reports' of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine side-effects. Here's a link to the post I shared a link to that very gov uk document, please judge for yourself. After finding it, I saw similar reported symptoms in an Israeli journal that I posted below it, in the same thread (this post)

    But I'm sure the chances of these nasty symptoms are very very low. Nevertheless, healthy immune systems might have a better chance against the virus than the vaccine. And these are the short term effects. The vaccine push, as aggressive as it is, stinks of a bullish quest for return on investment

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    I think this might be the root source.. not 100%


    Research and analysis
    Coronavirus vaccine - weekly summary of Yellow Card reporting
    Updated 4 March 2021

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...card-reporting


    Which links down to this link below:

    Research and analysis
    Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine adverse reactions
    A weekly report covering adverse reactions to approved COVID-19 vaccines

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...erse-reactions


    ...which is a list of documents. I guess the document I reference above might be one of those (?)

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    If millions are vaccinated some will die of a stroke or heart attack, but would have anyway - completely unrelated to vaccination. Give a few million people a chocolate biscuit and a some will be dead within a week!

    A very few will die because of the vaccine, but we're in the same territory as when car seatbelts were made compulsory. There were those who considered it an infringement of their civil liberties. There were those who said there would be occasions when the seat belt caused a death - and they were right. But transplant surgeons soon noticed a shortage of donors simply because there was a dramatic overall drop in deaths from traffic accidents.

    And I still haven't seen any social media reports of all the 'many' deaths caused by vaccination. If there were I'm sure undertakers would have noticed - they certainly noticed the rapid rise in the two or three Covid peaks. Any undertakers care to comment?

    I'd like to know why these vaccine-death stories are being spread. We should be asking for the evidence, of which there appears to be none. Then ask who gains by spreading this nonsense?

    BTW, I'm due to get my Bill Gates vaccine tracking chip next week!
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    I'd like to know why these vaccine-death stories are being spread.
    Nick - I do agree that coincidence is a huge factor, re cause ---> effect. The same may be possible with many of the covid deaths on record, particularly in nursing home and hospice residents. Very likely both sides are using these cause/effect scare tactics to promote their position.

    As Delight mentioned in her post Here, the greater concern would be the unintended consequences, not unlike those we have seen time and time again with man's meddling, particularly in the pharma industry. And this time the meddling is huge, and faster than anything we've seen before!

    Now if we had waterproof evidence of the safety of this new gene therapy (not really a vaccine as we have known it), we perhaps could be more reassured. But the fact of the matter is, that most of the very legitimate questions that people are asking are answered with "we just don't know," or "it's too soon to know," so the human population as it stands, is indeed being used as guinea pigs in a massive experiment.

    So, so many unanswered questions remain, and they are NOT being answered, neither about the extent of the danger of this "problem", nor of the vaccine remedy that has been devised, nor if this genetic therapy will even stop the "problem" at all.

    The questions are simply not answered, but the push to conform to the procedures certainly are in place strongly. Wondering if you are suspicious at all?
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    If there is a ratio of 1:10000 or even 10:10000 severe adverse effects it might take a while for them to reach a group of 100 people, I'd imagine. It's a waiting game for now. Let's hope you are right.
    Well on the other hand, I know three people who have died OF COVID, not with it. The reports of deaths and side effect apparently reported on this thread suggest I should know at last that many who have had severe side effects - or worse.
    Hi Nick, long time no see. (to coin a phrase)

    I want to say I have nothing but admiration for you, many times you have really made me stop and think and I genuinely wish to thank you for that. Just popping up here to raise a query seeing as you went to the trouble of capitalising a couple of words in your response above.

    "who have died OF COVID, not with it."

    How do you know?

    I know there are many suggestions that any death was being reported as COVID regardless of other factors. I have no way of knowing if that is true.

    What I do know is I am a high-risk individual according to NHS in Britain. As a transplant patient I am extremely vulnerable to any infection, be it bacterial or viral. Since the end of the first lockdown around June 2020 I have continued working on a daily basis travelling the country and using public transport in cities across the UK on a day to day basis. Latterly I have been delivering parcels on behalf of Amazon and meeting many people on their doorsteps every day. It seems I am a very lucky individual to avoid contracting this virus - I've rarely worn a mask and gave up the hand hygene regime when it caused drying and cracking of my skin.

    I do read books a lot as a means of learning and have recently read CORONA: FALSE ALARM by Dr. Karina Reiss and Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi. The former specialising in cell biology the latter virology and immunology. More importantly, and saliently, the book 'Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History' was a real eye-opener. I can't recommend it enough, the research involved blows me away never mind the data contained with in.
    [Bill: You need to read that, chapter 4, on Smallpox and the First Vaccine]

    Doctors go to medical school and learn for half a day about how vaccines are safe and effective - that's it.

    I'm sorry Nick, vaccines are neither safe nor effictive - it is a huge money machine though.

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    With this tsunami of supposed deaths and serious Covid vaccine injuries, I'm really surprised a good few of these reports haven't made their way onto social media. Even it they are quickly removed, I'd expect to see one or two get through briefly on my local groups. But none - not one. There are reports from dozens of people I know reporting a day or two of flu-like symptoms at worst, and usually just a sore arm for a few days and nothing else. I think I'd have heard of any deaths or very serious side effects by now.
    I said the same all through last year, but about the virus itself.
    If it’s as wide spread and prolific as they say, why isn’t everyone’s news feeds flooded with cases and mortalities at first hand experience...?

    Facebook has become ridiculously over censored.
    Myself and a friend done a test. Despite our posts being public to friends, unless we visited each other’s profile, our posts debating the virus, vaccines, agendas where all completely invisible in news feeds.
    Shadow banned I believe it’s called.

    So unless you’re visiting someone’s page directly, you’ll see nothing.
    Post anything that disagrees with the accepted narrative and the post is taken down within minutes.

    Post what you’ve had for tea that evening, it’s there for all to see.
    I had several friends on warnings to loose their job within the health sector for liking and commenting and sharing their views on what’s going on. A lot of people are scared to speak out for various reasons.
    The information on social media is now as controlled as it is on the 10 o’clock BBC News.

    It’s for this reason I stepped out the Facebook circus at the end of last year.

    I completely understand your method of thinking, but think it’s not the best indicator to gauge what is truly occurring.
    Telegram is probably the best channel to be viewing personal accounts and videos from first and second hand experience of vaccine damage and deaths. Until it also sells it’s soul to the silicone valley devil like Facebook did.

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    If there were I'm sure undertakers would have noticed - they certainly noticed the rapid rise in the two or three Covid peaks. Any undertakers care to!
    My good friend is a funeral celebrant.
    She hasn’t and still isn’t seeing an excess of deaths by Covid. Not in comparison to the numbers she is seeing of cancer & suicide. She says in general the crematoriums aren’t any busier than normal. Should that not be the opposite during a world wide pandemic? Where are the mass graves they had us believe was needed?


    I think the points being made with regards to the vaccine is that there is about a 2% chance of immediate injury and death. But what about the long term implications. They have admitted this is still in the trial stages. The outcome of the trials may not be known for years to come.

    I think the issue most people have is the amount of injuries being reported to VAERS and the likes are showing that very similar injuries and very similar deaths are occurring within a 48hour period.
    It’s amounting to 2%.
    For a virus with a 0.2% mortality rate.

    And that’s just the immediate and obvious issues. Who knows what issues they may cause 6,12,24 months down the line?

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    If there were I'm sure undertakers would have noticed - they certainly noticed the rapid rise in the two or three Covid peaks. Any undertakers care to!
    My good friend is a funeral celebrant.
    She hasn’t and still isn’t seeing an excess of deaths by Covid. Not in comparison to the numbers she is seeing of cancer & suicide. She says in general the crematoriums aren’t any busier than normal. Should that not be the opposite during a world wide pandemic? Where are the mass graves they had us believe was needed?


    I think the points being made with regards to the vaccine is that there is about a 2% chance of immediate injury and death. But what about the long term implications. They have admitted this is still in the trial stages. The outcome of the trials may not be known for years to come.

    I think the issue most people have is the amount of injuries being reported to VAERS and the likes are showing that very similar injuries and very similar deaths are occurring within a 48hour period.
    It’s amounting to 2%.
    For a virus with a 0.2% mortality rate.

    And that’s just the immediate and obvious issues. Who knows what issues they may cause 6,12,24 months down the line?
    Published March 8th, an early in the vaccination cycle study from the JAMA. It largely confirms the veracity of the percentages shared so far.

    Acute Allergic Reactions to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines:

    Source: JAMA Network

    Avalon Library: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Coron...nts_March_2021

    I've created a folder for this study's findings to also include both the supplement referred to here, and the tables.

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    Kimberly G. Blumenthal, MD, MSc1; Lacey B. Robinson, MD, MPH1; Carlos A. Camargo Jr, MD, DrPH2; et al
    Methods
    We prospectively studied Mass General Brigham (MGB) employees who received their first dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine (12/16/2020-2/12/2021, with follow-up through 2/18/2021) (eMethods in the Supplement). For 3 days after vaccination, employees completed symptom surveys through a multipronged approach including email, text message, phone, and smartphone application links. Acute allergic reaction symptoms solicited included itching, rash, hives, swelling, and/or respiratory symptoms (eAppendix in the Supplement).

    To identify anaphylaxis, allergists/immunologists reviewed the electronic health records of employees (1) reporting 2 or more allergy symptoms, (2) described as having an allergic reaction in MGB safety reports, (3) logged by the on-call MGB allergy/immunology team supporting employee vaccination, and (4) referred to MGB allergy/immunology. Episodes were scored using the Brighton Criteria2 and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases/Food Allergy and Anaphylaxis Network (NIAID/FAAN) criteria.3 Confirmed anaphylaxis required meeting at least 1 of these 2 sets of criteria.

    We described characteristics and outcomes of anaphylaxis cases. We calculated incidence rates and 95% CIs of self-reported acute allergic reactions and confirmed anaphylaxis, using vaccine administrations as the denominator. We compared frequencies using χ2 tests, considering a 2-sided P value of .05 statistically significant. Analyses were conducted in SAS version 9.4. This study was approved by the MGB Human Research Committee with a waiver of informed consent.

    Results
    Of 64 900 employees who received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, 25 929 (40%) received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 38 971 (60%) received the Moderna vaccine. At least 1 symptom survey was completed by 52 805 (81%).

    Acute allergic reactions were reported by 1365 employees overall (2.10% [95% CI, 1.99%-2.22%]), more frequently with the Moderna vaccine compared with Pfizer-BioNTech (2.20% [95% CI, 2.06%-2.35%] vs 1.95% [95% CI, 1.79%-2.13%]; P = .03, Table 1). Anaphylaxis was confirmed in 16 employees (0.025% [95% CI, 0.014%-0.040%]): 7 cases from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (0.027% [95% CI, 0.011%-0.056%]) and 9 cases from the Moderna vaccine (0.023% [95% CI, 0.011%-0.044%]) (P = .76).

    Individuals with anaphylaxis were a mean (SD) age of 41 (13) years, and 15 (94%) were female (Table 2); 10 (63%) had a prior allergy history and 5 (31%) had an anaphylaxis history. Mean time to anaphylaxis onset was 17 minutes (SD, 28; range, 1-120). One patient was admitted to intensive care, 9 (56%) received intramuscular epinephrine, and all recovered. Three employees, with prior anaphylaxis history, did not seek care.
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    Sadly, yet another to add:

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    More from https://vaccineimpact.com, the latest reports at the top. These are all since my last summary update of reports from the same site, 17 days ago on 21 February.


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    There seems to be a big rise in stillborn babies and late on miscarriage after pregnant women having the jab.
    These reports state the loss of the babies to have doubled in the last week.

    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/03/07...d-jab-doubles/

    Edit-Sorry Bill, I just noticed this is in your list above but a different source.
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    I posted this elsewhere, but it really is an excellent compilation of the vaccine injuries to date.
    A very eye-opening document.
    Might pay to download it while it is still there!
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FCLpbPgBu1Kb-I7Llyxv0m2SosvmsWS6/view
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    Just stated in the UK news this evening...

    “Italy bans AstraZeneca batch and Norway suspends jab’s rollout over concerns it caused fatal blood clots”

    https://www.rt.com/news/517843-astra...y-italy-batch/

    Hopefully this is going to make people sit up and think this through a bit more now...
    The blood clot issue described here is in line with original reports of sudden strokes and heart attacks to the newly jabbed in all age groups. Also the blood disorders where platelets dropped through the floor.


    In Italy, one man died of deep vein thrombosis, which later resulted in a brain haemorrhage. The other had a heart attack.

    In a separate development, Austria on Sunday stopped using a batch of AstraZeneca shots while investigating a death from coagulation disorders and an illness from a pulmonary embolism. The batch involved in that case was not the same as the batch under review in Italy.

    https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/03/11/i...ths-in-sicily/
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    UK Government Report.
    Vaccine adverse reactions

    QUOTE: "...As of 28 February 2021, for the UK, 33,207 Yellow Cards have been reported for the Pfizer/BioNTech, 54,180 have been reported for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine, and 251 have been reported where the brand of the vaccine was not specified.
    For both vaccines the overall reporting rate is around 3 to 6 Yellow Cards per 1,000 doses administered..."




    Samples from the data.

    * Blood disorders: 2,033
    * Cardiac disorders: 1,032
    * Congenital disorders: 3
    * Hearing disorders: 713
    * Endocrine disorders: 10
    * Eye disorders: 1,242 (12 blind)
    * Gastrointestinal disorders: 9,360
    * General disorders: 26,391
    * Liver disorders: 17
    * Immune system disorders: 466
    * Infections: 1,863
    * Injuries: 393
    * Continued Investigations: 965
    * Metabolic disorders: 525
    * Muscle-tissue disorders: 11,565
    * Neoplasms: 20
    * Nervous System Disorders: 16,107
    * Associated with pregnancy: 29
    * Psychiatric disorders: 1,235
    * Renal / urinary disorder: 187
    * Syst. Reproductive: 338
    * Respiratory disorders: 3,575
    * Skin disorder: 6,042
    * Vascular disorders: 992
    * Dead: 212
    * Medical and Surgical Procedures: 45

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    ⚡️Bulgaria and Thailand delay AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine rollout over blood clot fears.

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    Bulgaria and Thailand delay AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine rollout over blood clot fears.
    10 European Nations Halt AstraZeneca Jabs on Reports of 'Serious' Blood Clots

    Switzerland, Austria, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, and Italy have now opted to halt use of the vaccine, creating more problems for Europe’s sluggish vaccine rollout.

    The halts follow incidents involving blood clots in patients who recently received the vaccine.

    (article continues)

    Note from Bill: if Bulgaria is included, that makes 11.
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