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    i think today finds many of us frustrated and confused

    we have experienced a great disappointment and possible feel let down

    many of us are "fed up" and have had absolutely ENOUGH

    though these feelings are uncomfortable, and not the least bit disconcerting, we have to remember that what we FEEL has been "lost" and taken from us, wouldn't have even existed in the FIRST place if those that came before US had not felt EXACTLY the SAME
    way

    there's no denying that BEFORE Trump? SERIOUS problems existed .. but somehow despite the fact that many WERE aware, especially here, there was a tacit implied "acceptance" of these untenable situations

    an acceptance that is tantamount to COMPLIANCE and ENABLEMENT

    THIS supported furtherance of agendas that are decidedly harmful to our freedom and ultimately our lives. THEN just when no answer was in sight? TRUMP appeared.

    He acknowledged and called out the transgressions that had been cloaked in silence. He voiced aloud and gave validity to the facts our research had uncovered but had been up to that point marginalized by the media and dismissed by their response to cover ALL such disclosure under ONE accidentally brilliant label that invited instant ridicule

    CONSPIRACY THEORIES

    and because the GREATEST fear in man, is NOT death but "looking bad"? it effectively shut down ALL conversations that COULD have brought about awareness which is the FIRST step towards attainment of ANY resolution. ~ We cannot "fix" a "problem" we are not even AWARE exists

    Trump, being FULLY grounded in his being, didn't share in that fear. He knew these factors to exist ... to be the TRUTH and he voiced them openly and unapologetically ... and they HATED him for that

    for SO long they had been ALLOWED to operate in deception and unhindered by just the mere threat, the possibility of pulling out their tiresome, repetitive "weapon" of Ridicule, they were outright ENRAGED that it had NO effect to weaken him, much less silence him

    you've heard me assert time and time again, that the external circumstances we were facing were DIRECTLY tied and would be the DETERMINING factors of the outcome. This is partly why.

    just realize ...

    ONE man standing in his power threatened to topple their system

    now imagine ALL 80,000,000? > (EIGHTY MILLION)

    or even half of half or HALF of THAT?

    if ONE caused ALL THAT commotion? and you can be in denial that this is the case, but when ELSE has the world witnessed. because of the power of ONE man and what he symbolized? there were MORE troops at the tiny capital than we had in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan put together!

    were even ONE million operating under that level of Authentic Power that was unwavering in its stance for Truth and unflinching in the face of frivolous attacks of ridicule, would the communist regime that DEPENDS on COMPLIANCE and OBEDIENCE for its VERY EXISTENCE have stood a chance?

    i think we ALL know the answer to this question



    next PART 2 tomorrow
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    now .. we've ALL seen this and agreed with this meme

    but since 2016?

    Trump PROVED This to be the case ... beyond ANY shadow or doubt!

    if that was ONE man?

    well ... what limits can THIS crowd possibly have?




    and please note ...

    i wasn't there ... were you?

    yep ... not even a fraction of the numbers we have ...

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    three years ago .. i changed course .. responses .. tactics ...
    (i will outline in future post)

    and SINCE THEN? it has been almost miraculous to witness MULTITUDES coming to their own and stand up tall and straight and SPEAK

    now ... again ...

    was THAT "shrugged off"?

    inconsequential?

    yea ... i think NOT

    and though WE may be in doubt that the story outcome is set?

    i assure you THEY are NOT so certain ...

    nor should they be

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    Default Re: ENOUGH ... What Got us Here .. and Now?

    Quote Posted by Zamolxe (here)
    I would say that this is what got us here, do you agree?
    Mod note from Bill:

    Of course she doesn't agree. You know that already with 100% certainty, so your opening line is a snide, covertly hostile, provocative insult.

    You're not trying to engage in discussion here, though with sugar-sweet coating, you always pretend to be nice. It's not working.

    And you've posted this 4 times now. It's getting close to qualifying as spam, by the standards we assume.

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    Default Re: ENOUGH ... What Got us Here .. and Now?

    That list is very deceptive and who made it up any way. Many of those things can be argued as necessary to re-strengthen the country. Like rolling back some environmental rules. CA has no water to all the farms because one F***ing fish protected by the DEMs. Cozy to Big Pharm, that's a joke he was the only one who ever went after them. I would need further information , then those bullet points to make a decision if on face value what these actions mean and what actually happened.

    However this thread is about our next step and solutions. You clearly have the wrong thread.

    edit: posted before I saw Bills comment
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    Quote Posted by Zamolxe (here)
    If Trump wouldn't have taken those actions, he would have been voted by more people than Biden.
    He was.

    Mod note again. You're now blocked from this thread. The question iota was asking was one which you don't understand.
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    It's the what now iam really interested iota.
    right now iam holding my breath, as it feels we are just in the eye of the storm.
    But if nothing occurs do Americans ditch Trump and go back to sleep or form a third party?
    I also think you would be surprised how many non Americans there are supporting Trump.
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    Quote Posted by Zamolxe (here)
    I would say that this is what got us here, do you agree?

    Quote Posted by Zamolxe (here)

    .................................

    Why would I believe that there is a covert power struggle pitting Trump against the deep state and satanic pedophiles, when every single prediction of these "insiders" has turned out to be a dud?
    Trust is earned, not freely given.

    Also, Trump has been the most powerful man in the world for the past 4 years... how long should we wait to see the accomplishments of his "fight behind the scenes"?
    Because I have yet to see any single proof that he is fighting the deep state. No arrests, no nothing. After 4 years.

    But when we point out facts that show he might not be draining the swamp, but actually is a swamp dweller himself, we are told that it's a 5d chess move, don't worry about it. These are not the droids that we are looking for.

    It's been 4 years, I will leave a list of accomplishments here that seem to oppose our morals and principles regarding mother earth, peace, fighting big corporations and standing up for the little man.
    • protected Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman after killing Khashoghi because "they give us a lot of money"... seems you can buy a license to kill for the correct price
    • sold bombs to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and UAE despite congressional objections that it would lead to Saudis dropping bombs on civilians in Yemen
    • cut taxes for corporations
    • appointed Scott Pruitt to EPA after he dedicated his life to combating federal environment regulations and fighting for big oil
    • advanced construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access oil pipelines -
    • Keystone XL pipeline approved by President Trump, spilled 210,000 gallons of oil near the border of South Dakota and North Dakota Nov 17 2017
    • rolled back offshore drilling regulations put in place after the BP Deepwater Horizon
    • drafted a proposal to open 94% of previously protected American shorelines to offshore drilling
    • authorized five companies to use seismic airguns to search for offshore oil and gas. In doing so, the administration disregarded the federal government’s estimate that airgun testing poses a threat to many marine mammals, including dolphins and whales.
    • nominated David Bernhardt to be Secretary of the Interior, a role responsible for the management and conservation of federal land and natural resources. A former oil lobbyist, Bernhardt played a key role in rolling back the protection of endangered species
    • signed executive orders that would make it easier for gas and oil companies to lay pipelines without being blocked by states citing the Clean Water Act
    • relaxed regulations for drilling for oil and gas off Florida’s coast, Trump’s Interior Department planned to open up drilling off the state’s coast — but not until after the November election.
    • Trump administration announced that it would begin selling leases for oil and gas drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a vast area of undisturbed wilderness in Alaska
    • eliminated an Obama-era rule that required oil and gas companies to repair methane leaks.
    • rolled back an Obama-era regulation that required oil companies to provide purchasing information when buying minerals from foreign governments. Concerned that oil companies would purchase oil from corrupt and violent foreign administrations, the SEC had originally said Obama’s regulation would “combat government corruption through transparency and accountability.” The repeal had long been on the oil lobby’s wish list, and will save oil industry giants about half a billion dollars per year in compliance costs
    • Scott Pruitt’s schedule showed he held near-daily meetings with oil lobbyists, automobile company executives, and other industry leaders, while making almost no time for environmental advocates
    • Scott Pruitt told a crowd at the Kentucky Farm Bureau that he would like to remove all tax credits given to wind and solar energy
    • signed an executive order that instructed the Bureau of Land Management to lift a moratorium on new coal mining leases for federal land
    • in his first budget proposal, Donald Trump boosted defense and security spending by $54 billion. He proposed slashing the budget for non-defense spending in areas like education, science, poverty programs, and environmental protection by almost the same amount
    • EPA would withdraw mining restrictions on Alaska’s headwaters, opening the door to a major mining facility in the area. This reversal came after an EPA study concluded the mine could decimate salmon populations in the area, and thereby harm native Alaskans whose culture depended heavily on salmon.
    • for the second most powerful position at the Environmental Protection Agency, Donald Trump nominated Andrew Wheeler, a long-time coal lobbyist who had served as legal counsel for some of the largest coal mining companies in America
    • Donald Trump and EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt moved to repeal the Clean Power Act, introduced by Obama to lower carbon dioxide emissions 32 percent by 2030
    • Trump called for $8.6 billion for his border wall in his budget proposal for fiscal year 2020. The same budget called for increased spending for the Department of Homeland Security and a 31% spending cut to the Environmental Protection Agency
    • The EPA issued the final Affordable Clean Energy Rule, which rolled back power-plant regulations established under President Obama
    • proposed major changes to the National Environmental Policy Act. The new rules would allow federal agencies to bypass consideration of the environmental impact of proposed infrastructure projects
    • EPA finalized its revised Navigable Waters Protection Rule. Under Trump, protections for many rivers, streams, and wetlands were now officially removed
    • Perchlorate, a toxic chemical compound used in rocket fuel, has been found to contaminate water, causing fetal and infant brain damage. The Obama administration planned to regulate the chemical, but the Environmental Protection Agency, led by Trump’s appointee Andrew Wheeler, went against the decision, saying that the regulation was “not in the public interest.”
    • multiple conflicts of interest either using or promoting his business through his office
    • kept pushing to hold the G7 summit at a Trump resort
    • government officials and special interest groups being hosted at trump hotels and his golf clubs. Overcharging the secret service and officials for their stay at his properties. Having Qatari, Kuweiti and Saudi delegations repeatedly organize events at his hotels, placing huge amounts of money in his pockets. Basically, they bought his influence with direct payments.
    • attacked syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles
    • killed approx 100 syrians
    • encouraged the continuation of the bombing of Yemen
    • declared the Houthis as terrorists
    • btw, before he was president he was very much pro-wars: he was for invading Lybia in 2011, he agreed to the first Gulf War, for invading North Korea:
      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...elites/502145/
    • aggression towards Iran, airstrike that killed Qassim Suleimani. Threatening sites “important to Iran & the Iranian culture”
    • Trump administration helped GOP donors get Syria oil deal
      "Rayburn also admitted that the Trump administration had actually pushed for Delta Crescent Energy — and no other companies — to receive permission to exploit Syrian oil."
    • Trump Says U.S. Troops Stayed in Syria 'Because I Kept the Oil'
    • has pardoned four Blackwater security guards who were given lengthy prison sentences for killing 14 civilians in Baghdad in 2007, a massacre that caused international uproar
    • pardoned multiple corrupt politicians, donors or allies
    • "This administration has not only surpassed the previous one’s drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that’s possible.
      According to a 2018 report in The Daily Beast, Obama launched 186 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan during his first two years in office. In Trump’s first two years, he launched 238."
    • "Trump's air strikes in Afghanistan dramatically increased civilian deaths: Report
      The US's easing of restrictions on aerial strikes has led to an increase of attacks across the Middle East, Afghanistan and neighbouring countries"
    • U.S. national debt has ballooned under the administration of President Donald Trump, increasing by nearly $7 trillion in less than four years.
    • Federal spending by the Trump administration is around 6.6 percent higher than it was before he took office, equating to around $255 billion
    • used his final hours in office to revoke an executive order on ethics that was meant to bolster his “drain the swamp” campaign promise.
    • Nominating Industry Insiders From the moment he took office he continued the practice of his predecessors and continue the revolving door relationship between government and corporations
    • Cozy with Big Oil
    • Cozy with Big Pharma
    • Ending Investigations Into Pesticide Dangers
    • Making GMOs Easier To Enter the Food Supply On June 11, 2019, Trump quietly issued an executive order to “streamline” GMO regulations in the United States. The order, titled Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products
    • Support of and Expansion of the 5G Roll Out. Despite opposition by thousands of scientists, doctors, researchers, activists, and health professionals, Donald Trump pushed for the expansion of 5G networks, at one time calling for 6G.
    • Support of the Syria False Flag Narrative
    • Fighting to Keep Presidential Kill List Secret
    • Lying to the 9/11 Victims’ Families Despite making vague statements about “finding out the truth” about 9/11, Donald Trump never used his position to challenge the official narrative surrounding the 9/11 attacks. Even worse, Trump actually lied to the victims’ family members when he promised he would get to the bottom of the Saudi involvement in 9/11. Despite the families efforts to have Trump investigate Saudi Arabia, he failed to do any meaningful investigation of one of the American government’s favorite partners.
    • Imprisoned an American Citizen Without Trial or Charge
    • Continued Support of the NDAA Indefinite Detention Clause
    • Attempted to Block Testimony on CIA Torture
    • Supporting the Persecution and Prosecution of Julian Assange & Chelsea Manning

    SWAMP CREATURE PROSECUTIONS: 0

    REVOCATION OF PATRIOT ACT: NO

    9/11 DOMESTIC CRIMINALS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

    BILL GATES, G W BUSH AND **** CHENEY BROUGHT TO JUSTICE FOR INTERNATIONAL CRIMES: NO

    PARDONED JULIAN ASSANGE – EDWARD SNOWDEN PATRIOTISM RECOGNIZED: NO

    BREAK-UP OF BIG TECH CENSORSHIP CRIMINAL ORGS: NO

    TAX INCREASES FOR BILLIONAIRES AND MONOPOLY CORPORATIONS: NO

    INVESTING IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS SUCH AS DESALINIZATION PLANTS, AMBITIOUS DOMESTIC RECYCLING PROCESS FACILITIES, SUSTAINABLE TREE FARMING ON A MASS SCALE, CONSTRUCTION OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES TO REDUCE NUCLEAR REACTOR WASTE AND RISK: NO

    He also didn't "Lock her up".
    If I had the time, I would have a go at each and every one of those points because you seem to be only looking at things from one point of view. And that is to make a point against other people.

    Sorry if I am interjecting myself where maybe I should not be, but I am seeing too many people that are too stressed out over things these days. We should all take a breathe, relax your shoulders and stop fighting amongst ourselves.

    Your list could similarly be made using any other president. Spending/budgets are always going to go up. And also not go up in places where people feel it is needed. Everything is getting more expensive. There will never be enough money and effort spent on the environment.

    Gas and oil giants (and other giant companies and corporations) are always going to get a lot of attention.

    And emptying the swamp (which has always existed ) is obviously not something easily done. I wonder how many times you have been to court and felt that it went according to the laws and what "is right"? Identifying all of the swamp creatures is a huge job in itself, and if you do not get them all, there will be one out there to allow the other one to go free.

    Sorry, but that is just about all the time I have right now.

    I am going to relax, chill out and hope that when I revisit this site I don't see anger in almost every thread I click on.

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    These folks are not as... well lets say hard core as Avalon but they have many good ideas and basic ways to start pulling out of the Matrix.

    https://www.thriveon.com/innovator-updates

    http://www.thrivemovement.com/
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    hey ... so very sorry i stepped away ... i'd kinda been absorbed here and let a lot of things IRL remain undone .. so .. i'm sorry i wasn't here ..

    i'm glad that Bill took that action and in fact i'd like to go a step further, with his permission, and that will be to remove his post
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    now i know we are ALL looking for answers

    i want you all to know, i've been on this journey for a couple of decades now

    and i've searched far and wide in the most remote corners of possibilities

    and after ALL was said and done?

    THIS was the best solution that covered almost ALL possibilities

    i share it now with open heart and offer it for your consideration


    i must have a really warped sense of humor because the first time i saw this?

    i laughed and laughed ..

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    ok .. i'm going to do a thread and post the response i had just written and ALL the derailments on ANY thread can just be directed there ...

    but here's something to bear in mind



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    i created this for people who know my real name .. and was trying to be incognito

    they don't know me as "iota"
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    so ... for reasons very closely resembling some of what transpired here ... i came to this conclusion and you might now understand some of my responses and actions and how i came to espouse them ... only last 3 yrs ...

    this was written 3 yrs ago

    and i believe it relevant today ,,, interestingly enough ... one of the Presidents agrees with me


    at some point? i had enough


    PART 2

    ENOUGH


    HIGH TIME … i’d say …

    and i HAVE

    but here is what it looks like … the ptw operate withOUT hesitancy

    and we don’t.

    you can see it in the movies for example. where the protagonist is assaulted and attacked and now has the opportunity to “terminate” .. but the internal dialogue (compassion and love .. yes, i agree are good, that’s not the point) keeps the protagonist from quick and decisive action to “end” it.

    the other side doesn’t have that “hesitation” …

    their “will” is CLEAR and actions consistent

    that hesitancy is seen and interpreted as the moral compass that differentiates between them and us …

    i know, i’ve exercised it ALL my life …

    and i can unequivocally state, it worked out GREAT > for them

    me? not so much so. and not for anyone else i’ve encountered (in fact, or depictions) … you see, they “let” the “dark” continue

    and on a FREE will basis that is tantamount to “implied consent”

    so the evil that could have decidedly been obliterated and the ‘other’ side would have definitively done so … is NOT … it is granted compassion and allowed to remain …

    so it (unsurprisingly) strikes again … and AGAIN … and AGAIN

    finally, after 50 battles more SOMEONE finally obliterates it and ends the whole shenanigans (refer to any movie or story … or your life)

    so here i find myself … after countless lifetimes of such subjections, now at last concluding … NO MORE …

    i “see” that lack of hesitation, that conviction that drives produces unwavering action? produces strength …

    the hesitancy? does not .. it weakens

    and rightly so ACIM (A Course in Miracles) early chapters that state that when our actions and desires are out of accord? the part that is denied expression will be outraged ..(paraphrasing …)

    so today at last, i’m terminating ALL proclivity towards such “hesitancy” to act.

    you invade my space with what would cause me harm? i terminate.

    as a mother who does not suffer from such hesitations to act … when a fever invades and contaminates her child? NO hesitation occurs as to whether she “should” be loving or merciful and compassionate to the virus because of whatever reason.

    Contamination invades? it is eliminated. withOUT hesitation or remorse.

    just in coming to that choice? i felt many “lost aspects” of Self gratefully return … hopeful that at long last the possibility may exist they will not be utilized as human dartboards over and over and over again.

    it is NOT our “job” to regulate the actions of another. it IS our responsibility to set CLEAR boundaries on what we will or will NOT “allow” to invade OUR lives
    (again, ACIM dictates that our capacity to ‘suffer’ is great .. but NOT without limit)

    i have at long last, reached mine.

    ~ iota


    i wrote this 3 yrs ago and might give a little clarity to some of my responses
    Last edited by iota; 22nd January 2021 at 10:29.
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    Quote Posted by ;1405832
    It's the what now iam really interested iota.
    right now iam holding my breath, as it feels we are just in the eye of the storm.
    But if nothing occurs do Americans ditch Trump and go back to sleep or form a third party?
    I also think you would be surprised how many non Americans there are supporting Trump.
    dear Samildamach

    the WHAT is what has occurred

    just finishing typing it out now ... give me 10 mins!

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    Quote Posted by iota (here)
    so ... for reasons very closely resembling some of what transpired here ... i came to this conclusion and you might now understand some of my responses and actions and how i came to espouse them ... only last 3 yrs ...

    this was written 3 yrs ago

    and i believe it relevant today ,,, interestingly enough ... one of the Presidents agrees with me


    at some point? i had enough


    PART 2

    ENOUGH


    HIGH TIME … i’d say …

    and i HAVE

    but here is what it looks like … the ptw operate withOUT hesitancy

    and we don’t.

    you can see it in the movies for example. where the protagonist is assaulted and attacked and now has the opportunity to “terminate” .. but the internal dialogue (compassion and love .. yes, i agree are good, that’s not the point) keeps the protagonist from quick and decisive action to “end” it.

    the other side doesn’t have that “hesitation” …

    their “will” is CLEAR and actions consistent

    that hesitancy is seen and interpreted as the moral compass that differentiates between them and us …

    i know, i’ve exercised it ALL my life …

    and i can unequivocally state, it worked out GREAT > for them

    me? not so much so. and not for anyone else i’ve encountered (in fact, or depictions) … you see, they “let” the “dark” continue

    and on a FREE will basis that is tantamount to “implied consent”

    so the evil that could have decidedly been obliterated and the ‘other’ side would have definitively done so … is NOT … it is granted compassion and allowed to remain …

    so it (unsurprisingly) strikes again … and AGAIN … and AGAIN

    finally, after 50 battles more SOMEONE finally obliterates it and ends the whole shenanigans (refer to any movie or story … or your life)

    so here i find myself … after countless lifetimes of such subjections, now at last concluding … NO MORE …

    i “see” that lack of hesitation, that conviction that drives produces unwavering action? produces strength …

    the hesitancy? does not .. it weakens

    and rightly so ACIM (A Course in Miracles) early chapters that state that when our actions and desires are out of accord? the part that is denied expression will be outraged ..(paraphrasing …)

    so today at last, i’m terminating ALL proclivity towards such “hesitancy” to act.

    you invade my space with what would cause me harm? i terminate.

    as a mother who does not suffer from such hesitations to act … when a fever invades and contaminates her child? NO hesitation occurs as to whether she “should” be loving or merciful and compassionate to the virus because of whatever reason.

    Contamination invades? it is eliminated. withOUT hesitation or remorse.

    just in coming to that choice? i felt many “lost aspects” of Self gratefully return … hopeful that at long last the possibility may exist they will not be utilized as human dartboards over and over and over again.

    it is NOT our “job” to regulate the actions of another. it IS our responsibility to set CLEAR boundaries on what we will or will NOT “allow” to invade OUR lives
    (again, ACIM dictates that our capacity to ‘suffer’ is great .. but NOT without limit)

    i have at long last, reached mine.

    ~ iota


    i said "one of the Presidents agrees with me"

    (you know we have 2 right? the one duly elected and the one there by fraud)

    it is OK ... we'll discuss why and how

    This has really spoken to me, Iota. I have suffered from and paid for soft heartedness throughout my life, doggedly ignoring the inner knowing that I was taking the cowards way out by not directly addressing the issue. Confrontation might hurt my family, perhaps I should give the perpetrator a second chance - a myriad of excuses. But you don't feel better for it and usually all hell breaks loose when it shouldn't have done because unspoken resentment has accumulated and trust has been broken.

    Today, I finally closed the chapter on a long standing friendship with someone who had consistently ignored my requests to stop baiting me over my pro Trump stance on a social media platform.

    Two very public words put an end to it: DON'T EVER........



    Instant empowerment


    My sense is that the collective has been greatly strengthened over the last year in it's determination to stand up and call out the BS and as individuals we are far less afraid than we were of standing up to authority.

    There can be no going back, we've come too far; the delicious anticipation of freedom will never be forgotten.
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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    And you've posted this 4 times now. It's getting close to qualifying as spam, by the standards we assume.
    Well, it is a really good list!!! and I've re posted it once on another thread.
    Chris, I know you, respect you, and I truly appreciate your sincerity. But it doesn't matter how good a list anyone might think it is. It's not the topic of this thread.

    If it's been posted on 4 other threads besides this one (once by yourself and 3 other times by Zamolxe), then those threads might seem to be appropriate places where you'd like to discuss that list.

    Here, it gets to be spam. Here's why. This is what iota was asking:
    • How come the election was stolen?
    • How did this come to pass? How did things ever reach this extraordinary point in a "free" country?
    • How come the Supreme Court did nothing at all about the multiple, documented injustices?
    • What happened to Mike Pence? And many other so-called Republicans?
    • What happened to the mainstream media? And critical thinking? And honesty? And whatever anyone might think real patriotism might be?
    • And what happened to so much of tech-giant controlled social media, such that legitimate questions, posed in perfectly civil ways, were totally censored? And accounts removed? And the President himself silenced?
    • And even before all that, what was gradually, strategically, carefully, quietly taking place, in America and all over the world, such that Trump's removal from office by fair means or foul, was held to be a critical-path factor to be forced to happen?
    That's a good list, too.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    And you've posted this 4 times now. It's getting close to qualifying as spam, by the standards we assume.
    Well, it is a really good list!!! and I've re posted it once on another thread.
    Chris, I know you, respect you, and I truly appreciate your sincerity. But it doesn't matter how good a list anyone might think it is. It's not the topic of this thread.

    If it's been posted on 4 other threads besides this one (once by yourself and 3 other times by Zamolxe), then those threads might seem to be appropriate places where you'd like to discuss that list.

    Here, it gets to be spam. Here's why. This is what iota was asking:
    • How come the election was stolen?
    • How did this come to pass? How did things ever reach this extraordinary point in a "free" country?
    • How come the Supreme Court did nothing at all about the multiple, documented injustices?
    • What happened to Mike Pence? And many other so-called Republicans?
    • What happened to the mainstream media? And critical thinking? And honesty? And whatever anyone might think real patriotism might be?
    • And what happened to so much of tech-giant controlled social media, such that legitimate questions, posed in perfectly civil ways, were totally censored? And accounts removed? And the President himself silenced?
    • And even before all that, what was gradually, strategically, carefully, quietly taking place, in America and all over the world, such that Trump's removal from office by fair means or foul, was held to be a critical-path factor to be forced to happen?
    That's a good list, too.

    first of all very grateful and couldn't agree more Bill .. if i may add just one thought?

    i really wanted to focus on solutions .. it was my hope that this be a haven of positive not negative energy and i don't think that to be an unreasonable request at this time .. in fact, i think it might be needed ...

    so i respectfully request that the posts here in this thread remain on topic

    at least from this point

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    Quote Posted by angelfire (here)

    This has really spoken to me, Iota. I have suffered from and paid for soft heartedness throughout my life, doggedly ignoring the inner knowing that I was taking the cowards way out by not directly addressing the issue. Confrontation might hurt my family, perhaps I should give the perpetrator a second chance - a myriad of excuses. But you don't feel better for it and usually all hell breaks loose when it shouldn't have done because unspoken resentment has accumulated and trust has been broken.

    Today, I finally closed the chapter on a long standing friendship with someone who had consistently ignored my requests to stop baiting me over my pro Trump stance on a social media platform.

    Two very public words put an end to it: DON'T EVER........


    Instant empowerment


    My sense is that the collective has been greatly strengthened over the last year in it's determination to stand up and call out the BS and as individuals we are far less afraid than we were of standing up to authority.

    There can be no going back, we've come too far; the delicious anticipation of freedom will never be forgotten.
    what you wrote so beautifully depicts exactly my message

    we have ALL gone through this in our personal lives

    we love and want to express that love

    yet somehow it gets convoluted

    and suddenly the ones we love see that as an opportunity to manipulate us or worse, control us

    it is expressed through the threat of anger

    "if you don't behave the way i want you to? i will punish you with my anger"

    it is so very easy to cave

    it gets tiresome to fight

    but each time that we cave, we betray a little part of us

    we give up a little part of our self respect

    we feel a little down because we KNOW inside that THAT was wrong

    we should NOT have allowed "love" to be the reason to be mistreated

    and that is the initial stages of loss of personal power

    and ....

    it is exactly the SAME loss we experienced in our political system and government

    ALL of us READ ...

    ALL of KNEW

    things were very wrong

    but .. we accepted it

    we did NOTHING

    and that "nothing" was STILL a choice

    one which had specific consequences

    not the least of all the relinquishment of our power

    and THAT is where we are at

    and THAT is why



    the only way back into power

    is to first OWN the choice we made

    as long as we deny it ... we deny the possibility and power TO change it

    and CHANGE is what we want

    because CHANGE is what is needed
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