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    Default Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    I can't get over how weird this is.

    I left this in a What does it mean? thread (here) while it sunk in, so apologies for the duplicate post. But if it's legit it belongs here*1. If it's not legit it's an exceptional fraud

    Flash frozen, one creature frozen mid-step.



    A little more detail here


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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    I can't get over how weird this is.

    I left this in a What does it mean? thread (here) while it sunk in, so apologies for the duplicate post. But if it's legit it belongs here. If it's not legit it's an exceptional fraud

    Flash frozen, one creature frozen mid-step.



    A little more detail here
    I did a news search on Kazakhstan and found this link, Matthew:
    Animals Frozen in Kazakhstan in -51 Degrees Temperature is Fake? Viral Video Doing The Rounds Online Raises Doubts Whether it is Staged
    I also found this news item:
    Kazakh Police 'Kettle' Freezing Protesters For Nine Hours, Blasting 'Blizzard' Song

    I know little about what is going on in Kazakhstan, but it appears there is quite a bit of conflict, and the 2nd link posted above is revealing.

    The climate change, NWO agenda may be involved, with a theme of "freezing", somewhat like the theme of "I can't breathe" in the US. (total speculation)

    Also - it would be quite easy to stage a video of stuffed animals from a taxidermist.

    A thread on Kazakhstan might be interesting.
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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
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    Also - it would be quite easy to stage a video of stuffed animals from a taxidermist.

    A thread on Kazakhstan might be interesting.
    As I said in the What does it mean? thread, I find it hard to believe my lying eyes. Jury's out for me, but I love Fortean mysteries. Really really wasn't sure if it belongs here, in this thread (EDIT This was from when I posted it in the weird weather thread), but definitely deserves scrutiny and opinion. Sincere thanks for yours
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    Also - it would be quite easy to stage a video of stuffed animals from a taxidermist.

    A thread on Kazakhstan might be interesting.
    As I said in the What does it mean? thread, I find it hard to believe my lying eyes. Jury's out for me, but I love Fortean mysteries. Really really wasn't sure if it belongs here, in this thread, but definitely deserves scrutiny and opinion. Sincere thanks for yours

    So ... as a Canadian, I have personally endured some -40+C. Not for long periods of time mind you (to bring in wood, or whatever) and it is tolerable if you are dressed well and don't have to stay out long. But I can say that animals wouldn't freeze like that at -51C.

    It would never happen that way. As the body starts to get cold, (for mammals), huddling itself into a small ball and pulling the limbs in to try to save them would happen long before freezing to death. As a body's temperature drops severely, all blood is pulled from the limbs into the central core - running wouldn't even be an option after this begins to occur to the point where the body determines that the limbs can be sacrificed to maintain basic functions.

    They wouldn't be frozen in a "running" position like that ... It would never happen. And why is there a rat riding on the one dog?
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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    There was a movie about that effect a while back. About how, was it The Perfect Storm?, a combination of weather patterns could bring super cold air down from the heights and flash freeze everything. But the temperatures in the movie was space cold - 100 degrees below zero. Was it Denis Quaid? can't remember...
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    There was a movie about that effect a while back. About how, was it The Perfect Storm?, a combination of weather patterns could bring super cold air down from the heights and flash freeze everything. But the temperatures in the movie was space cold - 100 degrees below zero. Was it Denis Quaid? can't remember...
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    It wasn't attracting enough attention in the first thread, which is why I promoted it. Now it has some, wonder if it belongs in its own thread, or the conversation all moved to the first thread? In the article I posted (this one) talks about a single isolated incident in 2018, and in my opinion, a good showman would make the sequel more dramatic like we're seeing

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    It wasn't attracting enough attention in the first thread, which is why I promoted it. Now it has some, wonder if it belongs in its own thread, or the conversation all moved to the first thread? In the article I posted (this one) talks about a single isolated incident in 2018, and in my opinion, a good showman would make the sequel more dramatic like we're seeing
    Hi Matthew - We've moved this discussion to its own thread, as it has become interesting in itself. If you would like a title change, feel free to suggest one.
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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    It wasn't attracting enough attention in the first thread, which is why I promoted it. Now it has some, wonder if it belongs in its own thread, or the conversation all moved to the first thread? In the article I posted (this one) talks about a single isolated incident in 2018, and in my opinion, a good showman would make the sequel more dramatic like we're seeing
    Hi Matthew - We've moved this discussion to its own thread, as it has become interesting in itself. If you would like a title change, feel free to suggest one.
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    What comes to mind is:
    "The Day after Tomorrow film is real OR Brilliant taxidermist showman"
    "I can't believe my lying eyes"
    "Flash frozen OR flash taxidermist - you decide" <---- gotta be this one
    I'm easy on the title if someone thinks of something better, thank you for the chance to have fun with it!!!

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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    Actually Matthew, it has piqued my curiosity as to what exactly is going on in Kazakhstan.
    When I did a news search, it appeared that there is quite a lot going on, and that possibly the whole twitter promotion of the animal video was intentionally spread for some purpose. (?)
    I am hoping someone more familiar with the situation there might supply some input!
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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    I'm thinking a flash taxidermist showman makes sense, but not saying there isn't a bigger mystery... if there is, all the better for my obsession with the Fortean. Looking forward to any further thoughts/findings!
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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

     
    I noticed the article doesn't seem to indicate if the -51 is F or C. If that is in F, that is -46C. Every year there is some town in Canada that will get about this cold. The northern settlement Eureka, in 1979, the month of February had an average temperature of -48C (-54.4F). Snag Yukon has reported an official temp of -62.8C (-81F)on February 3rd 1947.

    No reports of animals frozen in their tracks.

    Kazakhstan has very harsh cold winters. -51, especially if that is in F (-46C), isn't out of the ordinary at all.

    It was a cold day, in Kazakhstan, as their winters very often are (-45C / -50C is not uncommon), someone was having a little fun ... that's all.

    Sources for the stats:
    https://www.advantour.com/kazakhstan/weather.htm
    https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia....aces-in-canada
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    Love it Gwin Ru (thank you) - got me being uncertain again. I'll be going back and forth like this for ages

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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    Here is what the WHO has to say:

    Kazakhstan

    Kazakhstan, a major global wheat producer, suffered reduced crop yields from drought and fires. Flooding related to climate changes already hit the country with significant impacts. Climate change is projected to increase temperatures, extreme precipitation events and frequency and intensity of droughts, with consequences for agriculture and water management.

    Changing climate is likely to alter the transmission of infectious diseases, increase mortality and morbidity from extreme weather events and reduced availability of clean water. Water scarcity also adversely affects food security and nutrition, particularly for subsistence farmers. The size of this impact is being assessed by the project.

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    Love it Gwin Ru (thank you) - got me being uncertain again. I'll be going back and forth like this for ages
    Well, animals can of course freeze to death. Obviously that is not an impossibility. But as they are walking in their tracks upright, keeping their balance, with rats riding on their back ... that's the part I'm having issues with. -- that and that a premise that these temperatures represent an "unusual" event. It gets cold there in the winters.

    EDIT: as the article Gwin posted noted, the dog became stuck in a snow field, and the rabbit looked to be stuck in a fence (quite some difficulty in removing it)

    EDIT2: The animals in the OP video may well have been found frozen to death, but then obviously staged into specific positions for the video (hence the rat riding the dog), and not "flash frozen in their tracks" - as it appears. I wish I could understand the guy in the video - he probably is explaining the whole thing.
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    Here is what the WHO has to say:

    Kazakhstan ...Climate change [victims].. Climate change [victims] ..
    I see what you mean, in this post above

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    Default Re: Kazakhstan Anomaly - flash freezing animals

    god damn it those bastards playing tricks..

    This one doesn't seem to be real, look at their "frozen" positions (looks like someone placed them in the spot) and look at any historical founds of frozen mummies, they doesn't look the same. In Siberia was recorded -71° C in the 70's and nobody got completely frozen, nor humans neither animals. Also in Siberia they found bisons and other frozen mummies, their bodies were preserved and they believe it happen in the ice-age event.

    In Vostok - Antarctica the average temperature is −55° C, no animals living there except whales, seals, krills, penguins and the likes.

    It is interesting to observe that frost can kill some plants and crops very easily, I had witnessed a few times unexpected frost and the crop failed, lost entire plantation. Freezing temperatures could kill animals and humans, but then something must be really wrong with the weather.

    What I am saying is: -51° C didn't kill those animals something or somebody else did.
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    What if (multiple?) countries testing new form of weather-warfare / weather extremes maybe done from from space via satellites combined with "next generation" chemtrails connected to Bill Gates? ... If so it fits perfect to the "Great Reset / Agenda2030" ... I heard many times from different sources that all draconian "covid lockdown measures" will slowly change in to lockdowns to "save the earth" blah blah to be sure all economies will be destroyed except the Ultra Rich just like the "Hunger Games" movie ... almost everything goes "virtual" same for the inauguration scam. Many (symbolic) similarities with the (predictive programming) sf-movie.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    What if (multiple?) countries testing new form of weather warfare / weather extremes maybe done from from space via satellites combined with "next generation" chemtrails connected to Bill Gates? ... If so it fits perfect to the "Great Reset / Agenda2030" ... I heard many times from different sources that all draconian "covid lockdown measures" will slowly change in to lockdowns to "save the earth" blah blah to be sure all economies will be destroyed except the Ultra Rich just like the "Hunger Games" movie ... almost everything goes "virtual" same for the inauguration scam. Many (symbolic) similarities with the (predictive programming) sf-movie.

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    Well, it could be. But also it could be just a regular winter in Kazakhstan, since -51 is within the realm of "normal' for a Kazakhstan winter.


    Quote "Cold winter starts in November and lasts till the end of April. The influence of Arctic air masses leads to a strong cold (up to -50 С°)"
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