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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)

    Are the jabs FDA approved? Yes! This was rushed in using the EUA (emergency use authorization) which is the third time it's been used. This was done even knowing all the above.
    Actually, I think the answer to this one could be listed as No. They were approved for emergency use, but do not have full FDA approval, as explained Here by the FDA.
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    How on earth can anyone eliminate the nanites in there that replicate? I cannot imagine any drug, supplement or concoction that is defense against A.I.
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    Quote Vaccines actually are a legally defined term … under public health law … under CDC and FDA standards, and a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission …
    Don't know how old your information is, but both Pfizer and Moderna have been proven greater than 90% effective at disrupting transmission.

    It is true that for regular clinical trials vaccines have to be proven to be safe and efficacious both against becoming sick and transmission. They were approved on emergency basis, and so the transmission part was relaxed. But they have since both been proven to be efficacious against transmission.

    Not sure what your complaint is, we don't even know how long Covid-19 has been in existence and it is also a strand of RNA wrapped in a package.

    Full disclosure -- I have had both shots of Moderna. I got sick after the second shot for several days, it would have only been for one day but I had complications.

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    There is a rumour that Ireland has passed a law which will criminalise unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated people in their own homes


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    Ireland passed a law which will criminalise unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated people in their own homes https://gov.ie/en/collection/1f150-v...d-19-pandemic/
    10:49 pm · 13 Apr 2021



    I don't follow Irish politics, but saw this on twitter. Does anyone follow Irish politics closely enough to know if this is true?

    Somebody asked them to clarify their tweet in the comments and they responded with this:
    Go to the S.I. No. 168 doc - go to pages 11-13, various restrictions eg "the event is attended only by vaccinated persons"
    source: comment tweet

    I suspect it is true, but there's always hoping it's not

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    Pyrangello, I'm in lower Michigan very near big hospitals. I've heard from several people first hand about the large numbers in hospitals, "worse than it was in the beginning"... more fear and anxiety, as if we needed it. No idea if this is from shedding, variants, bad tests? I had my hair cut yesterday by someone who got the vaccine, had my bushes trimmed yesterday by someone who feels he is just getting over a mild case. I honestly forget I shouldn't be close to him, for example, although we were outside. I just have never thought I would get it. On and on...stay up North!! lol Diane
    Could those first hand accounts relate to vaccine injury cases rather than covid infections? And/or flu cases. I ask because there's strong evidence that hospitals overcrowded with covid cases is a total scam. And we also know that death stats around the world are showing there are no more flu deaths as these have been reclassified as covid. Several top scientist, including one of the top epidemiologists, Knut Wittkowski have asserted that, “Influenza has been renamed COVID-19 in large part.” And in the USA, according to the CDC, the cumulative positive influenza test rate from late September into the week of 19 December was just 0.2%, compared to 8.7% from a year before. So, bottom line is hospitals are classifying flu deaths (and lots of other cases with comorbidity factors as "covid cases". And let's not get into the financial incentives that some countries have introduced to do exactly this!

    As for overcrowded hospitals, I recall a video of a bunch of Brazilian MPs who demanded access to one of the big hospitals there only to find the wards empty. I watched the video of an activist in the UK who went from hospital to hospital filming empty wards then got banned from going near any hospitals. And here are a series of articles that expose the scam of covid cases in hospitals based on just a five minute search and therefore just a small sample of what's out there if you look:

    Houston, Texas to dismantle temp hospital that didn't see a single covid case https://principia-scientific.com/hou...ingle-patient/
    Nurse exposes empty UK hospitals https://principia-scientific.com/whi...fake-pandemic/
    Exposing Nightingale's hospital scandal https://principia-scientific.com/exp...pital-scandal/
    What really happened in Nightingale hospitals https://principia-scientific.com/rev...ale-hospitals/
    Irish FOI request reveals hospitals were not strained in 2020 https://principia-scientific.com/iri...ained-in-2020/
    Government scientists expose covid hospital beds scam https://principia-scientific.com/sco...tal-beds-scam/
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    Andre, It's frustrating to not have access to truth...people can't even visit loved ones in the hospital I'm referring to. I would love to have access to a few patient charts to see diagnoses, lab results, test results, etc., but of course that can't happen. I did hear from a friend here that a friend of hers in Florida, who is a nurse, is caring for a couple of patients with COVID who had received both vaccine doses..fairly credible info, but who really knows. I also think it would be very difficult to identify patients in with vaccine side effects - I'm guessing the language being used in the patient record is tightly controlled. I'm waiting for more people to find out that those who have been vaccinated are not protected as they thought they would be. Truly horrible.

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    Graph showing the last 10 years of adverse vaccine reactions reported to the CDC from all vaccines compared to adverse reactions reported following covid-19 vaccines in the past 4 months.

    The Covid-19 data is a month old as there have now been 2500 deaths reported as of last Friday. Also keep in mind that the VAERS reports are between 4-6 weeks behind meaning we have not gotten any data from states where the vaccines are now allowed for anyone 16+

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    You can read detailed reports of all 2500+ deaths on the CDC's website via the link below.

    https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D8/D143F127

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    Nhs nurse speaks out

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    There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds
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    Well worth a listen to this episode, of note is the fact that the lady whistleblower relays what many thought in that most NHS employees are just following orders from "line management" and doing as they are told. She spoke to a consultant and a doctor who had both been "jabbed", neither of which had any idea that they were part of an experimental trail until 2023, or what the ingredients of it were....


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    Nhs nurse speaks out

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    There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds

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    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    Well worth a listen to this episode, of note is the fact that the lady whistleblower relays what many thought in that most NHS employees are just following orders from "line management" and doing as they are told. She spoke to a consultant and a doctor who had both been "jabbed", neither of which had any idea that they were part of an experimental trail until 2023, or what the ingredients of it were....


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    Nhs nurse speaks out

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    There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds


    Okay, listening now. Wow.

    My MP will hear from me citing this, and perhaps I'll write to the CCG as well.

    This will be in the library pronto as soon as we can start uploading again, so its saved, as permanently as anything can be these days. Downloaded now
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    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...


    I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.


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    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...


    I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.
    I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time

    It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it
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    I'm getting her now, but the glitch I caught has gone, and other glitches in testing my system have also been resolved. Very strange.


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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...


    I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.
    I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time

    It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it
    When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...


    I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.
    I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time

    It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it
    When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
    You don’t understand. As a test, I tried a personally bookmarked video which has nothing to do with the subject at hand: Miloslav Kabeláč’s Mystery Of Time, which I like to listen to now and again. The link also stopped working... until it started again. In other words, the problem is at my end.


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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...


    I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.
    I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time

    It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it
    When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
    You don’t understand. As a test, I tried a personally bookmarked video which has nothing to do with the subject at hand: Miloslav Kabeláč’s Mystery Of Time, which I like to listen to now and again. The link also stopped working... until it started again. In other words, the problem is at my end.
    I hear the same symptoms that Tintin described, with the audio out of sync. So from that, I conclude there must also be an issue with the video

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    UK Column News - April 14th 2021: NHS nurse testimony

    The audio has now been fixed



    UKC explainer:

    "Since Youtube decided to mess up the audio sync when we snipped the countdoun timer off the front of the video using their editing tool, here's a re-upload."
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    For anyone who can't watch the video for whatever reason here is the NHS whistleblowers words transcribed for anyone that may be interested. Brian from UK column insinuated that he has been contacted by lots more as well. x

    (apologies for any typos)

    Dear Brian as you can see from my photo ID I work for the NHS

    Can I please ask that you and UK Column not reveal my identity, my job title, or the health board the I work for, as I am a senior nurse it is appropriate to refer to me as such.

    I really cannot afford for my health board to be revealed as it would take no time for me to be identified and I have already been threatened with losing my job.

    I report directly to the line manager who sits at executive level in my board and my card is already marked.

    I am directly involved with the vaccination programme for my health board at senior nursing management level.

    I am essentially a policy writer and I'm responsible for the prescribing documents for our health care staff to administer the jabs. They are not vaccine and as such I can't refer to them as is.

    I have been in my current post, directly responsible for our vaccine policies and prescribing documents for SEARS in tandem with our public health team. I know a great deal in regard to vaccines and their use. I have also worked previously as a research nurse and I know how to critically appraise journal articles and trial protocols.

    I am contacting you at UK Column in response to the video "No smoke without fire Pt 2" In particular concerning a question you put to Debbie Evans. You asked Debbie if she knew what was going on in regard to Nurses, Medics and Carers who are involved in the vaccine programme and whether or not they had knowledge of the risks around the jabs, but were carrying on regardless, or were they not aware as a result of how they are trained nowadays.

    I would agree with part of Debbies response in so much as everyone involved in the jab programme are simply listening to management and there is very little if any questioning around the whole issue of the jabs.

    I started to ask questions in regard to the safety of the jabs before the MRHA gave their emergency use authorisation use last year.

    I knew I would be expected to be directly involved in the rollout of the jab in our health board and I had been reading the trial protocols and the interim analysis data where published.

    I could see very early on that they were flaws in the Pfizer trial and for all the jabs, there was little to no safety data made available. I could see that the claims from the pharmaceutical company as the efficacy of the jabs was poetic licence and as far as I'm concerned, designed to mislead.

    Because my work is entered on vaccines this last few years I asked questioned the speed with which these jabs came into use and the fact that no one was questioning the outcomes of the numerous animal trials that had been undertaken over the previous 18 years for SARS and MERS.

    Initially I refused to have any involvement to undertake my usual involvement in these jabs however I was quickly threatened with redeployment to the planned vaccine centre, where I would be expected to administer the jabs. I definitely did not want to be in a position where I was expected to inject anyone, is I reined in my objection but continued to refuse to have my name appear on any of the paperwork.

    At every turn I have challenged the need for these jabs in any cohort than the plus 65 years and the clinically at risk. Even then I questioned the lack of safety and efficacy data.

    I challenged the fact that our health board had adopted a policy of not providing the patient information leaflet PIL for all jab recipients. The PIL should always be and available to every recipient in a timely manner so that they may read through it, in order to make a truly informed decision and provide consent to receiving the jab.

    Yet it became policy that no one was to offer this to recipients unless they had requested it. However lay people have no concept of the PIL and are unaware that this is supposed to be provided to them, conversely however it is written in the protocols health care professionals must use them to authorise administration of the jab. The PIL must be made available to the recipient.

    Similarly I challenged the fact that the documentation used by the health care professionals as a checklist should be gone through with every recipient must include that they are taking part in an ongoing clinical trial.

    At every turn and where I can I have questioned and confronted my executive level line manager, public health colleagues and my peers, some who I have worked with for over 10 years now. As a result of my non conformity I've been labelled and "Anti vaxer" and "conspiracy nut" even though both my children have been fully vaccinated.

    I myself whilst working clinically had my hepatitis vaccination. I am not anti vaccine at all.

    I have been excluded from certain meetings, I've been openly ridiculed, and laughed at. Recently I was told I needed to "watch my step" as when cost saving measures are required later this year, I may just find myself surplus to requirements.

    So Debbie is correct those delivering the programmes and injecting the public are simply following the orders given to them. For the most part they are doing so naively in the belief the can trust the rhetoric dictated by senior management.

    However there is Total awareness of the issue and risk involved with these jabs at senior level within the NHS and not just in my board. I've spoken with colleagues in other health boards who report the same issues.

    When I last faced up to my manger asking why they were content to be taking part in what amounted (as far as I was concerned) genicode. Their reply was chilling and left me felling both disgusted and despairing They agitated replies that "we all have job to do and a part to play" so just "shut up, put up and get it done"

    It was made very clear to me that government were leaning heavily on health boards to not only ensure not only compliance with the jab program, but that the boards met the targets set by the government.

    Brian I have tried to recruit colleagues to the cause, I've had numerous conversations with nurses who have years of experience working in the NHS and who are all aware that things simply aren't right, but always to no avail.

    I am often told it is futile, to speak up or speak out as they, the management just won't listen.

    Then there are those who are aware of what's going on and simply can't take the stress of being involved, they are off work long term sick in their droves.

    There are also very many senior nurses who have taken early retirement over the last few months, all of them citing the current situation with the jabs and the whole Covid debacle as the reasons they just had to get out.

    You mentioned Brian when talking with Debbie and I have heard similar sentiment elsewhere, that those NHS who have knowledge of what's taking place and who are not speaking out are complicit in the atrocity. Some even go so far as to demand nurse like me speak out as a moral duty and they have no sympathy for us if we end up facing Nuremberg style trials

    But I have a mortgage to pay, two children and all the bills, the whole house to cover, my partner was made redundant last year.

    If I went public I would most certainly never work in nursing again and with current climate of unemployment what chance would I stand of getting another job never mind one that pay enough to cover out outgoings and keep a roof over my children heads.

    I hate my job, I am currently ashamed to be a nurse and very day I work for the NHS I feel greater despair and loathing.

    You mentioned GP's specifically to Debbie and I thought I would relay a conversation I had just yesterday with a GP at one of our surgeries delivering the jabs. The GP in question know directly of my involvement with the boards jab programme and had questioned me regarding the forthcoming Moderna jab we are beginning to administer in April.

    Through the course of the conversation I learned the GP had taken the Pfizer jab herself. Aghast I asked her was she CRAZY considering the jab contained PEG (polyethelene glycol) also known as antifreeze. The GP didn't know the jab contained PEG, in fact the GP didn't know any of the excipients in the jab at all as they had never read the PIL or full prescribing documentation. I challenged this stating that they couldn't fully obtain consent from their patients if they themselves weren't aware of the terms of the PIL.

    I them asked were they informing their patients that they were taking part in a clinical trial. At this point the colour drained from the GP's face as they rather sheepishly replied that they weren't, they were simply asking if the patient was happy to be followed up over a 2 year period for research.

    In all honesty Brian the GP didn't even know the jabs weren't approved, that they were still in clinical phase 3 trials. Tragically this GP's lack of knowledge in regard to the jobs isn't rare.

    Again recently I had conversation with an NHS consultant who took the Pfizer jab, they too didn't know they had taken part in a trial or that the jabs weren't approved.

    If consultants, GPs, nurses and pharmacists within the NHS aren't aware of this how on earth can we expect the public to know.

    Lastly I disagree with Debbie on one point, she stated that she felt sorry for her NHS colleagues who were essentially being set up, I disagree.

    My NHS colleagues have forsaken their duty of care, broken their code of conduct, hippocratic oath and have been brainwashed just the same as the majority of the UK public through propaganda and predictive programming.

    When I trained as a nurse it was engrained in me to question everything, to never accept being told "because we have always done it" or "because I'm telling you to"

    I learned we were advocates for patients and it was our duty to protect them at all costs and I learned to look for the evidence behind every treatment or medicine I would provide a patient.

    Therefore I am complicit to

    Although I know about the safety issues, I've repeatedly tried to get through to management colleagues and I have failed.

    I can't recruit a single NHS colleague, be they nurse, doctor or pharmacist to stand with me and speak up.

    I have gone to the union to look for them to support me but predictably they told me I have no real case and it wouldn't be worth pursuing.

    As a lone voice I will not be heard but would lose my job, 23 year noosing career and my nursing registration. Of that I have no doubt.

    For now I am resigned to remain in my post, I will continue to be defiant and challenge everyone at every opportunity trying to wake them up and if they would be willing to side with me.

    If a time ever came this genocide came to light, and if I ended up on trial testifying against those in positions of power who could have affected the outcomes I would not hesitate to give evidence.

    I will also accept my fate should I to have been found to be duplicitous in this horrid act of human annihilation.

    I do not fear that day Brian I fact I welcome it and pray for it to come







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    Well worth a listen to this episode, of note is the fact that the lady whistleblower relays what many thought in that most NHS employees are just following orders from "line management" and doing as they are told. She spoke to a consultant and a doctor who had both been "jabbed", neither of which had any idea that they were part of an experimental trail until 2023, or what the ingredients of it were....


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    Nhs nurse speaks out

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    There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds


    Okay, listening now. Wow.

    My MP will hear from me citing this, and perhaps I'll write to the CCG as well.

    This will be in the library pronto as soon as we can start uploading again, so its saved, as permanently as anything can be these days. Downloaded now

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    When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
    There are lots of comments under the video about it - so they will know...

    whoops - just seen this in Tintin's post so they definitely knew all about it...

    "UKC explainer:

    "Since Youtube decided to mess up the audio sync when we snipped the countdoun timer off the front of the video using their editing tool, here's a re-upload."
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