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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    To highlight the above:

    January 26/21
    Canada - pop. 37,742,154

    to date:
    753,011 cases

    19,238 deaths


    If we drill down on just these three numbers and assuming the data as year one totals...

    % of population so far infected: 1.9
    % of population so far died: .05
    % of infected so far died: 2.5

    These numbers do not take a genius to understand, nor does it take a 'health care professional' or 'official authority' to annalyse it.

    Using the predictive models from the beginning of the epidemic we can see that in fact even those numbers were over-estimated. The most reliable numbers I saw were : 15% infection rate and .04% deaths.

    If you look at the numbers for Canada the infection rate so far is only 2.5% and deaths are a bit higher than predicted at .05%. The deaths can be explained if they begin tapering off now in year two, as it seems they are. The bug has taken most of the susceptible in year one and should drop and flatten out at around 04%.

    What I can see is the infection rate is off. That could mean the lock downs are working, more people are self-isolating, some may have taken preventative measures, they may have been luckily avoiding the clouds of virulent droplets floating around everywhere, and/or more people are unaffected by this disease than originally estimated.

    Another inference that can be made based on the data is that 2.5% of the infected dying seems too high for such a weak bug. I wonder what protocols they are using in Canada? No idea, but I would bet it is not the most effective as Canada follows WHO directives. Does that include HCQ or Ivermectin or Regeneron or high dose vitamin therapy?

    Just how long do they think it will take for the entire population to be infected? And do they think that 37,000,000 people will catch it?

    If we take Canada's numbers we should expect to have around 5,500,000 cases. If after a year there has only been 753,000 cases do they think it will take another 7 years to spread through the population?


    My speculation, now, apart from the facts but loosely based on them, and based on other flu seasons:
    I think this bug has already made its rounds and infected those with weak immune systems and left the rest of us alone.

    But even if I am wrong, year two must certainly see the spread of this bug to everyone on the planet, and as far as a time line estimate that's being generous.


    Tentative conclusion: There is no need for a vaccine and certainly not for an experimental gene altering injection. The risk outweighs any expected benefit.
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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    NURSE WARNS - STAY AWAY FROM VAXXED PEOPLE


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/uNpRqMROrZQB



    Sounds like the Walking Dead


    More warnings:
    http://www.truthunmasked.org/p/stay-away.html
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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    NURSE WARNS - STAY AWAY FROM VAXXED PEOPLE


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/uNpRqMROrZQB



    Sounds like the Walking Dead


    More warnings:
    http://www.truthunmasked.org/p/stay-away.html
    CDC's Zombie Apocalypse.
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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    Hello folks,

    A friend of my passed this onto me earlier today. Apparently there are now cases of folks who have taken the vaccine coming into contact with people who have not taken the vaccine...and "shedding" such that there seems to be some sort of effect given to the unvaxxed person...and also affecting animals (vaxxed person petting a animal and the animal dying shortly thereafter).

    I highly recommend watching this video of a nurse explaining it. Runs 8 minutes and has valuable info, imo. Could save you or your pet's life.



    Dave - Toronto

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    Wondering what is happening with Lawrence Palevsky. Is the treatment shedding and causing symptoms for those who did not get it?



    And Christiane Northrup talks at 26:30 about the changes in menstrual cycles of untreated women

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    NURSE WARNS - STAY AWAY FROM VAXXED PEOPLE


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/uNpRqMROrZQB



    Sounds like the Walking Dead


    More warnings:
    http://www.truthunmasked.org/p/stay-away.html
    CDC's Zombie Apocalypse.

    This is concerning 😳

    I guess if they can’t get us one way they’ll try get us another way...

    Staying away from the jabbed is nigh impossible.
    I’d asked a close relative to let me know when she has had her 2nd jab as I was concerned about the shedding.

    She turned up yesterday and half an hour into her visit, with my puppy on her knee and one of my children sat next to her, admits she’s had the jab late on last week.

    After respecting her wishes to keep a distance as she isolated countless times this last year, I was astounded by the lack of respect for my wishes now she feels she is safe.

    I refuse to wear a mask and want to carry on with life as best I can with no fear, but equally don’t want to be taking part in no science experiment.
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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    Dave, many thanks for this thread. For those interested in learning more about this (and it may well be important), if you search for shedding as a keyword, you'll see there are already a number of posts about this spread over quite a few different thread topics. As a note to the mods, it might be helpful for us to move some of them over here.

    (Aside: this is part of a larger known issue with dozens of vaccine-related posts in the covid threads as well. It's all a bit of a librarian's nightmare — simply because important stuff can later be hard to find unless one remembers specific keywords and is good at using the Avalon search function.)


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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    Thank you for posting. Is there a way we can get the link to this video? I'd like to forward it on.

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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    Thank you for posting. Is there a way we can get the link to this video? I'd like to forward it on.
    Now I found the clip here

    Can vaccinated people make the unvaccinated sick? Watch Dr Palevsky explain
    April 21, 2021


    and it's still on y0utube


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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    This very important debate and counterpoint to the official, do-not-ask-questions, narrative is what is supposed to happen in medical institutions and research labs before releasing drugs, vaccines, etc... into the public to be consumed by an unsuspecting citizenry.

    But, instead we are relegated to getting this information only after the toxic substance(s) is unleashed on the public, and only through alternative “conspiracy theory” sources on the internet. (And many thanks to all of them.)

    Thank your god that we are getting this information. But is it too little, too late? I say “No”.

    If this information is even partially accurate, and I am convinced it is more so than that, this “treatment” , ie, vax or jab, will be much worse than we people could have ever known or even suspected than is CV19 (SARS Cov 2) itself.

    The people responsible must not be allowed to escape their responsibly and culpability, and must not avoid their just due.

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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    Thank you for posting. Is there a way we can get the link to this video? I'd like to forward it on.
    Now I found the clip here

    Can vaccinated people make the unvaccinated sick? Watch Dr Palevsky explain
    April 21, 2021


    and it's still on y0utube

    Many thanks.

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    I was just asking for the address for that clip too.Can we get the FB address for it too? Thanks
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Wondering what is happening with Lawrence Palevsky. Is the treatment shedding and causing symptoms for this who did not get it?

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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    Hi Bill...thx for moving my above post re-shedding. Still trying to make my way around. So many different threads.

    Hi Satori, I was forwarded that video by a friend (KB) who posted it at his personal YTY site. I will ask him for an origin point or that nurse's site and report back.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I was just asking for the address for that clip too.Can we get the FB address for it too? Thanks
    FB address

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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    Considering that the top vaccine expert featured in Del Bigtree's video says the antibodies in the COVID jabs are destroying the recipients' immune systems, I would say there is a threat to the unvaxxed as well because it only follows that the vaxxed will be so susceptible to so many other illnesses including communicable ones.
    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/ZFjj86buJWA8
    Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1422885

    From Clif High
    SHEDDING WOO – EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT
    4/20/21
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    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/shedding-woo/

    (THIS ONE'S ON BITCHUTE, AND CLIF SAYS HE MAY POST IT ELSEWHERE AS WELL)
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/VJ4A4yu0veDA/

    Review from Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge:
    "For years, Clif High published his ALTA Reports, to which I began subscribing in 2009, which were based on the predictive linguistics harvested and processed by his Web Bots starting in 1994, which scoured those areas of the internet rich in posted language, such as comment boards, social media, etc.

    Clif believes his efforts proved that human beings are unconsciously psychic and that they begin accurately posting about future events, on average about 8-10 weeks before these events actually occur in physical reality. He published these reports until he was forced to quit, he says because the internet was gummed-up by the lies of the “Blue Chicken Cult” (aka “Blue Avians”) of Corey Goode.

    The predictions were both short term and long term but throughout the time of the ALTA Reports, Clif says he saw language about “Desperation in Summertime” building over a number of years, which he now believes refers to the summer of 2021, due to the horrible fallout from the MRNA vaccines, which in turn will precipitate another linguistic cluster, which his reports referred to for years as the “Secrets Revealed” about UFOs, extraterrestrial life and their technology, etc.

    Clif doesn’t know how this will play out, whether it will be a Deep State false flag alien invasion or whether the aliens will bypass the Deep State altogether and directly introduce themselves to us.

    But ETs are the least of our concerns, as it seems clear to him that the MRNA vaccine is shaping up to be a mass-genocidal, Extinction Level Event. In this video, Clif echoes the warnings of Dr Vernon Coleman, that the vaccinated people will infect the unvaccinated people as they slough off their dead skin cells, which contain the MRNA contagion, thereby rendering everybody infertile or worse.

    Clif says, “We’ve got this situation where people who are vaccinated are shedding cells, as we all do, continuously all day long; they’re shedding cells that have the vaccinated, pre-loaded MRNA in them. This vaccinated, pre-loaded MRNA is potentially a cause for this new reported phenomenon going around, which is women are having extremely rough periods; that menstruation has become very painful and debilitating and very suddenly.

    “And prior to that, we had noticed that there was a huge rise in the statistical reporting of miscarriages across all of the Western world, where vaccines had been put out and where we had this mass-inoculation program going on. Miscarriages were just up 500% and 600% in just a little over a month and a half.

    “Now, bear in mind that in 4 months, we’ve had a reported 3,000+ deaths and that equals all of the deaths for the last 13 years. So, we’re on the bad side of a trend, Guys. We do not, as humans have a good track record with vaccines. This trend is now starting to kick our ass, here, because we’re starting to show women that are having miscarriages who have NOT been vaccinated. And women that are having exceptionally difficult periods, to the point of debilitation. Even in older women, they’re saying that it is like nothing they’ve had in their entire history.

    “So this is not a good sign. I was very much afraid that MRNA could be passed by kissing or by sex. We now know that that’s true, that’s happening. And now it looks like there’s MRNA passage is being done through contact with shed skin cells which have the MRNA within them – also, all the cells we respirate…

    “So the desperation component is now going towards this push for infertility. So it looks like maybe the Powers That Be did, indeed have a giant depopulation agenda and if they did, then it would be fair to say, if that is conspiracy-fact, then it would be fair to say they’ve implemented it and there may be nothing we ca do about it, at this stage.

    “There may be enough people inoculated with the vaccine that we’re now going to push infertility on most of the populace, due to the close contact of the vaccinated with the other unvaccinated and fertile people. We may, as a result of this have to alter our social order, to where the vaccinated people are put in some kind of coventry, where they’re excluded from contact with non-vaccinated; where they’re isolated and held back, so that the species can continue…

    “It is highly probable that everyone who’s been vaccinated with the MRNA product is infertile. And if they’re not infertile, I would shudder to think as to what would be the outcome of their progeny, what that would look like. It’s that bad. The potential for this is quite severe.

    “All we have is discovery. We’re continuing to discover new clusters of effects from this MRNA product, which is not a vaccine, which should be halted immediately and everybody that’s ever been involved with it, rounded up somewhere where we can just hold them for a while, while we sort this out to decide what we’re going to do with them. Because it may truly be a crime against humanity. The MRNA vaccination, if it is as bad as it appears at this stage may have doomed the entire species to infertility and we’ll expire as a species when the last human on Earth now dies. It could be that horrific. We just don’t know…

    “The MRNA, which is intimately connected with reproduction of every cell and every part of every cell and then, on a larger level, it’s a key component to the reproduction of the human being, themselves, by the production of the gametes necessary to produce sperm and egg. So MRNA issues throughout the entire process. So, we can see if you have a very robust immune system and there’s these strange MRNAs coming in – now, bear i mind that our bodies cannot tolerate MRNA anywhere except in the cell, itself. If our bodies find that the stuff is in between the cells, there’s whole crews of scrubber things that come along to scrub it out. So, we’re very robust at scrubbing against MRNA.

    “But MRNA is something we need within the cells. It’s just that we don’t need the strange stuff that is coming off the people tat have been vaccinated and apparently, women are reacting and it may be – it’s my supposition at this stage, sort of a woo conclusion, a very tentative, very nebulous, very wobbly, so that we can throw it away at any time – but the conclusion at the moment is that, ‘Hmm, maybe the MRNA is altered enough that it’s triggering the immune response within the women that get it to the point where their immune response then goes on to attack their own reproductive MRNA processes.”

    In the US, these problems will disproportionately affect Democrats and members of Antifa and BLM and the realization of same will hit them hard, as it becomes clear, into 2022 that these mental and fertility problems are legitimate.

    Clif says, “They lined up and took it en masse, they were true believers and the true believers are going to be basically, I think killed by the vaccine and killed early. MRNA, I do believe will cause prion-like or statin-like separations and voids in the brain and if the data on PubMed is accurate, then we can expect this to happen in 18 months to two years, it won’t be a 30-year process. And so, we’ll have a lot of very young people that will be debilitated. And they’re infertile.”

    It’s been reported that 150 million people have been vaccinated in the USA. If true, Clif says, “The USA is finished. As a nation, it’s finished, because over the next 2 years, that 150 million will become 100% debilitated and will need care for whatever remains of their short lives and it’s going to destroy the social order. It’s going to break down the banking system, it’ll destroy the value of real estate or any damned thing, because, as these people become debilitated and run into problems, the first reaction we’ll have will be to put them in nursing homes or care facilities, which will soon become overwhelmed. And of course, who did we give the shots to, right in the beginning, with these 150 million? We gave them to the healthcare workers…

    “The good news is that, even in early parts of the data reports about all of this badness, there were stuff saying, ‘Oh yeah, they’re going to just run and kill the Rothschilds, they’re just going to kill the Queen and everybody that’s a Royal and murder the political elite in our country – and in most countries – will simply be butchered, as this proceeds. This is our ‘Summer of Desperation’, this is the ‘Summer of Woo’. Remember, I kept saying, ‘Discovery is going to be the issue’ and ‘Discovery only lasts as long as it lasts.’

    “So the social order will be breaking down around you, because of everybody’s mind’s going, because of the worry, whether they’ve got the shot or not. They’re going to be worried whether their wife or husband has gotten the shot and are they going to get an effect from it? Do they have to split up? Do they have to stay away from their kids, as more and more of these side effects come on out. I hope I’m wrong on all of this…

    “If we can determine by September that, indeed that we’re going to be saddled with 150 million people dead or rapidly dying or debilitated, mentally or potentially mentally debilitated to the point where they can’t be trusted and/or have to be sequestered because they’re shedding the s*** in their skin, we’ve got real serious issues, as a species.

    “And so things like property values become non-sequitur, they just don’t compute. Who cares? At some point, we’ll worry, ‘Do we have enough functioning workforce to get oil out of the ground to produce gasoline?’

    “And it’s all their fault and they kept pushing it and Fauci and all these guys, Obama and all these f***ers. So, they’ve done it. We’re here. ‘Summer of Desperation’. We’ll see how it plays out. Hopefully, I’m terribly wrong about all of this. Hopefully, it is completely wrong. Hopefully, we’ll be much more resilient than it appears at the moment and we won’t be that affected by this horrible medical experiment. But at this point, it keeps getting worse and they’re covering-up the getting worse part. And unless we face it as adults, we can’t deal with it, we can’t address it…

    “I expect that things will degrade – there’s a real potential that things will degrade very rapidly over these next two years. So, in that case, over the course of the two years…

    “I can see that the good side of this is that there might be so many people dying on the planet, that war is not a possibility anymore. That we just have too many people dying off…

    “All of my plans are held in abeyance…

    “Good luck to all of us. It’s not a very good video. Didn’t want to have to make it. It’s been days and days and days. I’ve been getting these reports from people. I’ve had reports from a number of the nurses. They were the first ones send them to me, saying they didn’t know if it was related, they weren’t vaccinated, they wanted to escape the vaccination or turn it down at the hospital and they didn’t get it but…these reports from nurses have been coming for about a month now…There’s enough of them, now, that there’s a developing pattern. There’s enough of them now that they, themselves are discussing it, reporting it to each other and noticing that there’s a developing pattern.

    “So, I’m hopeful that this understanding will percolate through the female aspect of our social order very rapidly and raise Holy Hell and maybe we can get this stuff stopped and examined and see what we need to do to aid those individuals that have been injected and see what we can do.

    “Maybe there’s some way we can un-do the MRNA damage that’s been done. I don’t know, neither do they. Nobody knows about any of this sh**.

    “Some of the knowledgeable doctors are very, very, very concerned about this and are worrying, like me, that this is species-affecting.

    “OK, so I bummed you guys out enough, now already. I wish I could end on a really positive note but I can’t. I’m just concerned, I’m having to change my plans. It looks like our species has been affected to the point where we will all be affected, whether we are vaccinated or not and there’s no upside to it, at this stage.

    “I’m not particularly depressed, because there’s so much in the way of unknowns. This is why I like living in woo, because you don’t get a firm paradigm set there. So, I can’t be uplifting abut the information but I can be uplifting in the general sense that we don’t know. We don’t know so much, that there’s huge holes, there for hope…there’s so much we don’t know…

    “And I have faith in the spontaneous human reactions. OK. BLM and the riots? That’s not spontaneous. They get that sh** ginned-up on Twitter, they get all the social justice freaks all whipped-up to go get their buddies and it builds. That’s not spontaneous.

    “Spontaneous human reactions, though do arise and we’ve seen them cause whole countries to change. Cacerolazo…the women beating the pots and pans for their missing relatives in Argentina during the Dirty Wars. That kind of thing. That was spontaneous; it just kinda happened and it changed the nature of the country. If we have such a thing happen – such things, by the way, Guys, they usually happen from the female side of the species. The spontaneous change in over-wooing of the social order from below. When men get involved, we call it revolution because we go to violence. We don’t have any other recourse.

    “So, I’m hoping the women are going to get extremely upset and change the social order and stop this, as they will be the first noticeable victims of the side effects of the vaccine outside of someone else’s body. Strange days, Guys but we don’t know – there’s plenty of hope, so don’t get too down or anything and I’m going to continue looking at this and hey, we’ve survived terrible things and gotten this far.” "

    Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1423306


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/VJ4A4yu0veDA

    and here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1423312

    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/IZvzGXu6ejaE
    Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1423302
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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    This is a big concern for me as well. I can't remember the video where this was covered but since people shed skin every day, those vaxxed will be shedding mRNA through the skin. That is then "picked up" by an unvaxed person and then that mRNA has multiple ways of being absorbed into the body. Does this mean this would be the same as receiving the vax? And, there is also concern if this means that the frequency contained in the vax is then passed onto the unvaxed person and that will also affect them on a "spiritual" level - ie, after death following that frequency to another kind of enslavement? It seems to be damaging in and out of the body?

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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    That nurse who posted the video above....her website is as follows:

    http://www.truthunmasked.org/p/welcome.html

    Then click on Stay Away / Warning ....for which she has other videos including Morgan Scot (above).

    Hope this helps...as this is something I had no clue about until today. See, that's the thing that bugs me....all of this vaccine stuff is so experimental...we are the guinea pigs.

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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    I'll cross post what I've shared here Dave regarding shedding...
    and here...and here...
    Information shared by Tintin on vaccines and prions here

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    The vaxxed are affecting the unvaxxed

    Posted already on other Threads:


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    Default Re: Can a 'vaccinated' person pass on a jab ingredient to an unvaccinated person?

    Quote Posted by Anna70 (here)
    I'm not sure if this subject may have been covered already, but it is a worry I (and I'm sure others) have, as people around me have had/are having the jab (incidentally, I often feel as if I have failed them, but there is only so much you can do with little energy, when you're up against the tide of people's workplaces demanding it, their trust in 'science' and authorities, and the unrelenting propaganda).

    Anyway, whatever cocktail is put into them, or whatever is created by their bodies as a result of that, I really do not want any bit of it to somehow be passed on to me, and I wonder if there is any evidence so far of such a risk with these particular 'vaccines'. Hopefully my worry is completely unfounded.
    I think as long as you refrain yourself from french kissing or having sex with your colleagues, you should be golden.
    Kidding aside, you should avoid their sneezing or coughing. Regarding these testimonies, there's no smoke without a fire.
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