Do you have an 'immunity passport' price?

[DaveToo]

As sad as I am to admit it, I believe we will be seeing 'immunity passports' in the not too distant future, particularly for travel purposes but also for employment and entry into various venues and stores etc.

Of course there is no logical reason for implementing them.
But then, has there been any logic to any of the other pandemic measures we have seen thus far?

The vaccine manufacturers have already admitted that their vaccines won't provide immunity from Covid-19. The best you can hope for is a reduction of Covid symptoms should you come down with the disease.

So why would governments be anxious to introduce 'immunity passports'?

Well first off they would provide a big incentive for people to take the vaccine. Many who were hesitant would be swayed to taking the injection if it meant they couldn't travel, work, enjoy leisure activities or shop in the majority of stores without it.

Secondly they would form the groundwork to the introduction of a digital control scheme that would later be broadened to encompass financial payment systems, health record systems, credit record systems, criminal record systems etc. etc.

In other words they would be instrumental in giving governments the ultimate control
over their citizens.

So now for the big question.

Assuming an immunity passport system was implemented in your country,
would you willingly go along with it?

If not, what would be your price?

That is, let’s assume the clever 'immunity passport' forgers were sophisticated and doing a brisk business, OR sympathetic doctors/nurses were willing to give you your passport without you having to take the vaccine (for a handsome price of course).

How much would you be willing to pay for one?

What would be your maximum price to buy one? (This would eliminate the need for you to get vaccinated or tested for Covid).

The passport would be guaranteed to work and give you ‘free’ ability to travel worldwide, work and go anywhere you had gone to prior to the pandemic.

[pueblo]

Why would anyone pay (even more than we already pay) to be enslaved?

[Olam]

Price?
lol
How about debilitating neurological problems in a few years essentially reducing you to a sloth waiting to die?

I have travelled around the world a few times, it's my passion, and I will abandon all of this before I take that crap in my body.
I will go live in the woods if I have too, but no one will force me to take this, period.

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting question. I'd imagine in developing countries (that are often happily chaotic with plenty of holes in their administration) it'd be quite possible to get that kind of thing for a few hundred $$. In tightly organized countries (US, Canada, Australia, Europe), it may be a little more difficult.

But Dr Mercola predicts that the global outcry about vaccination injuries will pretty soon be impossible to suppress, and that may well force governments (and corporations) to rethink their policies. Based on what I feel I know, I think he may well be right.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I have travelled the world, now I live in the woods. I would not pay for one. I would however use my graphic editing skills and software to create one should I feel the need to travel.

[T Smith]

Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
I have travelled the world, now I live in the woods. I would not pay for one. I would however use my graphic editing skills and software to create one should I feel the need to travel.

You're hired...

[DaveToo]

Posted by pueblo (here)
Why would anyone pay (even more than we already pay) to be enslaved?

Good question!

The payment wouldn't be to be enslaved in this case (should immunity passports become a reality).

It would be to skirt the system and not be enslaved (not give in and take the vaccine).

Again it's all a big IF at this stage.

But if it were to come to pass, which I hope and pray it won't, I would sit back for at least a few years to see how the whole thing is playing out.

After that amount of time, if I saw I desired to travel/partake in certain activities that I was being blocked from, I would check out the different avenues for getting a passport and POSSIBLY pay for one (without taking the injection).

Don't forget Qantas has already stated they are thinking about implementing mandatory vaccines for travelers.
And tech nerds are busy developing immunity passport apps as we speak.
Tech always leads governments and technocracy.

They develop things, governments check them out and decide whether they can make use of them, and then
bingo! It has been and will always be that way.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Olam (here)
Price?
lol
How about debilitating neurological problems in a few years essentially reducing you to a sloth waiting to die?

I have travelled around the world a few times, it's my passion, and I will abandon all of this before I take that crap in my body.
I will go live in the woods if I have too, but no one will force me to take this, period.

You seem to be confusing this poll with my earlier poll where I asked if you have a vaccine price.

Like you I would never take 'the vaccine'.

But I would possibly consider paying for a passport IF they were required to travel and gain entrance
into various venues I was interested in and the price was 'right'.

It might become the 'cost for living' in the future.

The fact is that there are loonies running this world and they have been extremely successful in
duping the masses into accepting almost anything they wish.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
An interesting question. I'd imagine in developing countries (that are often happily chaotic with plenty of holes in their administration) it'd be quite possible to get that kind of thing for a few hundred $$. In tightly organized countries (US, Canada, Australia, Europe), it may be a little more difficult.

But Dr Mercola predicts that the global outcry about vaccination injuries will pretty soon be impossible to suppress, and that may well force governments (and corporations) to rethink their policies. Based on what I feel I know, I think he may well be right.

I sure hope and pray he is right!

Nothing would make me happier at this stage than to see the vaccination program fall flat on its face.

[gord]

These two links could be relevant here. I don't know.:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8691939

Abstract:
Currently in this digital world, passport is still a physical entity. It is carried at all places along with other travel related documents such as VISA and Immigration stamps that are also part of the passport(s). Each country maintains its own database of travel related information of the people entering and leaving the country. This paper is written with a vision of digitizing Passport, VISA and Immigration documents. Digitizing Passport and VISA helps in streamlining and simplifying Passport and VISA issuing, renewing, revoking, verification and validation process. For this process, we are proposing a solution based on distributed ledger for storing and retrieving information. Once implemented, this framework will help do-away with fake passports and VISA, unauthorized and repetitive data verification process. Blockchain-based distributed ledger implementation will solve several issues pertaining to paper-based authentication and make services more streamlined, improving efficiency and potentially lower costs at all levels.

https://citizenshipbyinvestment.ch/i...rts-and-visas/

Imagine a world, where there are no immigration controls, no long queues, no airport counters, no paper passports, no paper currency and the world has gone completely digital.

You might be wondering what it is, the answer to that is blockchain technology.

[Olam]

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Olam (here)
Price?
lol
How about debilitating neurological problems in a few years essentially reducing you to a sloth waiting to die?

I have travelled around the world a few times, it's my passion, and I will abandon all of this before I take that crap in my body.
I will go live in the woods if I have too, but no one will force me to take this, period.

You seem to be confusing this poll with my earlier poll where I asked if you have a vaccine price.

Like you I would never take 'the vaccine'.

But I would possibly consider paying for a passport IF they were required to travel and gain entrance
into various venues I was interested in and the price was 'right'.

It might become the 'cost for living' in the future.

The fact is that there are loonies running this world and they have been extremely successful in
duping the masses into accepting almost anything they wish.

The thing is its not just about a passport. I am sure they will force people into quarantine facilities as a double measure at some point.
You don't want to be stuck in another country, in some camp and then go positive because you share facilities.
I really think its going to be a long time before we can travel and not wonder if they will lock us up for a while...

We have the Canadian gov here recently put out some paper asking for companies who could build such facilities.
Expect corona detention centers at airports and places close to that.
Really they could decide at any moment because of some "new strain" that people need to be quarantined into those facilities.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Olam (here)

Posted by DaveToo (here)

... The fact is that there are loonies running this world and they have been extremely successful in
duping the masses into accepting almost anything they wish.

The thing is its not just about a passport. I am sure they will force people into quarantine facilities as a double measure at some point.
You don't want to be stuck in another country, in some camp and then go positive because you share facilities.
I really think its going to be a long time before we can travel and not wonder if they will lock us up for a while...

We have the Canadian gov here recently put out some paper asking for companies who could build such facilities.
Expect corona detention centers at airports and places close to that.
Really they could decide at any moment because of some "new strain" that people need to be quarantined into those facilities.

Oh I agree 100%.

Currently anyone coming to Canada, whether they have taken 'the vaccine' or had a negative test (which is now required)
STILL needs to quarantine for 14 days!

And they do check up on you. People who can't confirm they are at home alone will get a call/visit from authorities.

They already have Covid detention centers in Canada. The government website states that anyone entering Canada without
a negative Covid test can expect to be escorted to one these centers.