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    Lightbulb This ridiculous forum thread instantly turned me vegan

    Here's the link

    The premise is that the forum thread starter is a "Rothschild", in other words a very high-ranking member of the STS hierarchy. No idea who he actually is.

    I originally clicked on this thread to see how many people were tricked by a sophisticated LARP, but found this guy spitting some major knowledge at times.

    The tone won't be for everyone, but I found it pretty funny. It starts slowly, mostly with insults, but picks up once the good questions start getting asked. Took me two days on and off to read and it was completely worth it.

    Right after finishing up, I became vegan. The way he explained it just made it so OBVIOUS, at least to me. I had no reservations whatsoever. It's been about a week and a half and it's going great.

    As context, before, my view of vegans were pretty neutral. It sounded interesting, but I didn't think it would work for me because I am a tall male with significant caloric needs, so I had never really tried it. (It does work... you just have to eat a ton of plant fat. Like, often more than you think.)

    He also mentioned "The Secret Life of Plants" by Peter Tompkins as an essential book to read. I'm on chapter 5 and it's equally groundbreaking (if not more).
    • It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    • It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    • In a broader sense, it explains, scientifically, the science behind the Infinite Intelligence.
    • And to be clear I'm only on chapter 5.

    The book only added to the obviousness of becoming vegan. The forum thread set me up to really understand and appreciate the implications of the concepts within the book, though.

    Here's the link to the forum thread

    Compelling vegan-related excerpt from forum thread below...

    ---

    You have been very gracious in your presentation of questions and ideas and demonstrated respect by following through on suggestions made by doing further research!

    I would like to expand on two points for your consideration.

    Most in the west are familiar with the concept of YIN YANG...the interrelationship of seeming opposite forces. I encourage you to become familiar with this TRUTH and look for examples in your experiences. See if it rises to the level of a NATURAL LAW in your reality!

    Let us start simply!

    "Night" cannot exist without "Day".

    "Truth" cannot exist without "Lies"

    "Problems" cannot exist without "solutions"

    One gives form, creation and life to another.

    A straight line cannot exist in nature!

    There is no timeline...there is no past and no future. Because there IS no PAST...there cannot be a FUTURE.

    Leaving only NOW, or REALITY. Keep this in mind.

    Moving on to the concept of food!

    You, presumably are an ANIMAL...a mammal.

    You were a product of the insemination of egg by sperm. You were a live birth (again presumably) and a nursing mammal! Slow to mature and capable of complex cognitive interactions with your environment. Perhaps 300 million possible iterations of YOU, with one prevailing!

    Sentient...capable of feeling pain, of growing and evolving.

    What, of the attributes noted, differ from the animals you choose to eat? Say a PIG or COW...slaughtered by the hundreds of millions per year...and slaughtered without observing the laws and rituals of nature!

    Most importantly, slaughtered on YOUR BEHALF!

    It is well understood that these animals suffer greatly in their lifelong confinement (look up VEAL PRODUCTION for a "taste" of the sacrifice of YOUTH), are injected with all sorts of unnatural poisons and pharma effluents, fed genetically modified "grains" in a filthy environment.

    Fear permeates their environment...misery unto DEATH.

    Their complete existence is a MISERY from birth to death.

    SLAUGHTER.

    Where does all that fear and misery accumulate? Where does it go? Would YOU want to live in this existence? Do you APPROVE of these miseries being inflicted by those who act as your AGENT? Do you realize that AGENTS actions are lawfully binding upon the principal? As you BUY meat, you buy and legitimize this "system" of misery.

    These mechanisms allow modification of thought perception which lead to such things as the aborting of human babies! Self-inflicted genocide! Astounding!

    What will the next big advancement of humanity be?

    Enquiring minds want to know!

    Laughing out loud!

    In the US, mcdonalds serves up billions of these little misery bombs...brightly wrapped and served by a grotesque clown character.

    Eat up, Kiddies!

    Eating animals is eating one's own. It is not a FOOD SOURCE per se, but cannibalism.

    Consider another source of food. Plants.

    Along the YIN YANG meridian, plants are opposite/complementary in most respects. Life forms, sure, and many realize now sentient.

    However, plants and humans are symbiotic! One respirates Co2 and the other o2. One cannot live without the other!

    Plants take non organic elements from the earth and make them digestible for humans. In fact, the only true source of minerals for human consumption come from plants. Elemental sources cannot be metabolized and end up causing sickness and death in humans.

    Laughing out loud!

    Human faeces is PLANT FERTILIZER! That which is SHAT is life giving food to plants!

    Humans and plants have evolved together. There is much WISDOM which plants can impart to humans. One need only EAT!

    Laughing out loud!

    Let's create a small food chain scenario easily accomplished by MOST first world inhabitants.

    You have, or acquire, a small plot of land. The land is fertile or reasonably so...or, worst case, can be rehabilitated with a small amount of knowledge of earthworms .

    You plant a variety of green plants and vegetables...the type that humans normally consume. The cost of seeds is very small and through some miracle of life, you discover that the plants which grow also produce seeds...which can be kept for future growings! Food for now and the means of production for later!

    You learn that by selecting the type of plants grown, you can make an ideal combination specific to your blood type and nutritional constitution. After some study, you learn that food can, indeed, be your "medicine"...just like that old guy said a few thousand years ago!

    Laughing out loud!

    After a period of systemic adjustment, you realize that your health has improved and you are bursting with abundant energy. You are never ill! No colds, no flu...no flesh eating bacteria!

    The idea that one would need health insurance (socialist or private) becomes an absurdity!

    At some point, you realize that the digestive tract you inherited required constant grazing...such as elephants, horses and cows do...and learn of JUICING! Most of the nutritional value can be extracted and made portable along with other benefits. You adopt this regimen after carefully weighing the pros and negatives and find an increase of super-charged energy....along with a small mountain of grindings from the juicing process...from vegetables and plants grown by yourself, with your labor...in your own garden!

    You elect to form a relationship with a CHICKEN. Or maybe TWO CHICKENS!

    You find that the chickens greedily eat the fibrous grinding remains along with bugs and anything else they can find...and, in exchange, give you a small nutrient bomb of proteins, high quality fats, organic minerals and other good stuff. They, in essence, extract the rest of the nutrition from the vegetables and produce it in a highly assimilatable form...complete amino acid profile, proportioned correctly.

    Seeing an opportunity, you add this marvel of human nutrition to your green juicing! Raw!

    Because the egg is UNFERTILIZED, there are no karmic issues with its consumption! Because you are providing a safe and healthy environment to the chicken; supplying it with healthy vegetables grown from the sweat of YOUR BROW...your toil...it is a perfectly symbiotic relationship!

    Quid pro quo!

    Now, the chicken ages and stops laying.

    What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO??

    Why, you continue to care for the chicken...to feed it and respect it during its "life" as you did while it was producing eggs! RESPECT, YO!

    YOU DO NOT EAT THE CHICKEN! It lives out its life according to its NATURE and GENETIC PROGRAMMING. You are living according to the NATURAL LAW OF BOTH!

    Why? Because you are living in the NOW! There being no timeline, there is only NOW. The killing of the chicken affects the Eggs...ALL the eggs concurrently. Betray the chicken NOW and poison the eggs NOW.

    And you don't want to eat poisoned eggs, do you?

    It's really very simple, actually.

    So now, by the sweat of your own brow (and admittedly, taking very little actual sweat) you are feeding yourself and have taken responsibility for your own health. You are full of energy and brimming with positive POWER!

    You grow your own food, maintain your own health and have no need for the pharma or poisoned ag industry!

    At the same time, your need for fiat has been reduced significantly, so the need to toil in some dreary cubicle has been reduced or eliminated! You spend your life in the sunshine, in nature, producing and consuming your own labor.

    How can ANY entity tax the fruit of your labors? Sadly, the various bureaucracies are not set up to process CHICKENS!

    Laughing out loud!

    This is but one very simple action ANYONE can take which changes their lives completely and allows them to take a new path. This earth truly is a biblical GARDEN OF EDEN!

    Profoundly simple, and now laid out clearly for all to see!

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    Default Re: This ridiculous forum thread instantly turned me vegan

    Quote Posted by waxamillionpehhgasus (here)
    Right after finishing up, I became vegan. The way he explained it just made it so OBVIOUS, at least to me. I had no reservations whatsoever. It's been about a week and a half and it's going great.
    keep up the great work!

    And welcome to the forum
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    Default Re: This ridiculous forum thread instantly turned me vegan

    Quote Posted by waxamillionpehhgasus (here)
    Here's the link

    The premise is that the forum thread starter is a "Rothschild", in other words a very high-ranking member of the STS hierarchy. No idea who he actually is.

    I originally clicked on this thread to see how many people were tricked by a sophisticated LARP, but found this guy spitting some major knowledge at times.

    The tone won't be for everyone, but I found it pretty funny. It starts slowly, mostly with insults, but picks up once the good questions start getting asked. Took me two days on and off to read and it was completely worth it.

    Right after finishing up, I became vegan. The way he explained it just made it so OBVIOUS, at least to me. I had no reservations whatsoever. It's been about a week and a half and it's going great.

    As context, before, my view of vegans were pretty neutral. It sounded interesting, but I didn't think it would work for me because I am a tall male with significant caloric needs, so I had never really tried it. (It does work... you just have to eat a ton of plant fat. Like, often more than you think.)

    He also mentioned "The Secret Life of Plants" by Peter Tompkins as an essential book to read. I'm on chapter 5 and it's equally groundbreaking (if not more).
    • It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    • It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    • In a broader sense, it explains, scientifically, the science behind the Infinite Intelligence.
    • And to be clear I'm only on chapter 5.

    The book only added to the obviousness of becoming vegan. The forum thread set me up to really understand and appreciate the implications of the concepts within the book, though.

    Here's the link to the forum thread

    Compelling vegan-related excerpt from forum thread below...

    ---

    You have been very gracious in your presentation of questions and ideas and demonstrated respect by following through on suggestions made by doing further research!

    I would like to expand on two points for your consideration.

    Most in the west are familiar with the concept of YIN YANG...the interrelationship of seeming opposite forces. I encourage you to become familiar with this TRUTH and look for examples in your experiences. See if it rises to the level of a NATURAL LAW in your reality!

    Let us start simply!

    "Night" cannot exist without "Day".

    "Truth" cannot exist without "Lies"

    "Problems" cannot exist without "solutions"

    One gives form, creation and life to another.

    A straight line cannot exist in nature!

    There is no timeline...there is no past and no future. Because there IS no PAST...there cannot be a FUTURE.

    Leaving only NOW, or REALITY. Keep this in mind.

    Moving on to the concept of food!

    You, presumably are an ANIMAL...a mammal.

    You were a product of the insemination of egg by sperm. You were a live birth (again presumably) and a nursing mammal! Slow to mature and capable of complex cognitive interactions with your environment. Perhaps 300 million possible iterations of YOU, with one prevailing!

    Sentient...capable of feeling pain, of growing and evolving.

    What, of the attributes noted, differ from the animals you choose to eat? Say a PIG or COW...slaughtered by the hundreds of millions per year...and slaughtered without observing the laws and rituals of nature!

    Most importantly, slaughtered on YOUR BEHALF!

    It is well understood that these animals suffer greatly in their lifelong confinement (look up VEAL PRODUCTION for a "taste" of the sacrifice of YOUTH), are injected with all sorts of unnatural poisons and pharma effluents, fed genetically modified "grains" in a filthy environment.

    Fear permeates their environment...misery unto DEATH.

    Their complete existence is a MISERY from birth to death.

    SLAUGHTER.

    Where does all that fear and misery accumulate? Where does it go? Would YOU want to live in this existence? Do you APPROVE of these miseries being inflicted by those who act as your AGENT? Do you realize that AGENTS actions are lawfully binding upon the principal? As you BUY meat, you buy and legitimize this "system" of misery.

    These mechanisms allow modification of thought perception which lead to such things as the aborting of human babies! Self-inflicted genocide! Astounding!

    What will the next big advancement of humanity be?

    Enquiring minds want to know!

    Laughing out loud!

    In the US, mcdonalds serves up billions of these little misery bombs...brightly wrapped and served by a grotesque clown character.

    Eat up, Kiddies!

    Eating animals is eating one's own. It is not a FOOD SOURCE per se, but cannibalism.

    Consider another source of food. Plants.

    Along the YIN YANG meridian, plants are opposite/complementary in most respects. Life forms, sure, and many realize now sentient.

    However, plants and humans are symbiotic! One respirates Co2 and the other o2. One cannot live without the other!

    Plants take non organic elements from the earth and make them digestible for humans. In fact, the only true source of minerals for human consumption come from plants. Elemental sources cannot be metabolized and end up causing sickness and death in humans.

    Laughing out loud!

    Human faeces is PLANT FERTILIZER! That which is SHAT is life giving food to plants!

    Humans and plants have evolved together. There is much WISDOM which plants can impart to humans. One need only EAT!

    Laughing out loud!

    Let's create a small food chain scenario easily accomplished by MOST first world inhabitants.

    You have, or acquire, a small plot of land. The land is fertile or reasonably so...or, worst case, can be rehabilitated with a small amount of knowledge of earthworms .

    You plant a variety of green plants and vegetables...the type that humans normally consume. The cost of seeds is very small and through some miracle of life, you discover that the plants which grow also produce seeds...which can be kept for future growings! Food for now and the means of production for later!

    You learn that by selecting the type of plants grown, you can make an ideal combination specific to your blood type and nutritional constitution. After some study, you learn that food can, indeed, be your "medicine"...just like that old guy said a few thousand years ago!

    Laughing out loud!

    After a period of systemic adjustment, you realize that your health has improved and you are bursting with abundant energy. You are never ill! No colds, no flu...no flesh eating bacteria!

    The idea that one would need health insurance (socialist or private) becomes an absurdity!

    At some point, you realize that the digestive tract you inherited required constant grazing...such as elephants, horses and cows do...and learn of JUICING! Most of the nutritional value can be extracted and made portable along with other benefits. You adopt this regimen after carefully weighing the pros and negatives and find an increase of super-charged energy....along with a small mountain of grindings from the juicing process...from vegetables and plants grown by yourself, with your labor...in your own garden!

    You elect to form a relationship with a CHICKEN. Or maybe TWO CHICKENS!

    You find that the chickens greedily eat the fibrous grinding remains along with bugs and anything else they can find...and, in exchange, give you a small nutrient bomb of proteins, high quality fats, organic minerals and other good stuff. They, in essence, extract the rest of the nutrition from the vegetables and produce it in a highly assimilatable form...complete amino acid profile, proportioned correctly.

    Seeing an opportunity, you add this marvel of human nutrition to your green juicing! Raw!

    Because the egg is UNFERTILIZED, there are no karmic issues with its consumption! Because you are providing a safe and healthy environment to the chicken; supplying it with healthy vegetables grown from the sweat of YOUR BROW...your toil...it is a perfectly symbiotic relationship!

    Quid pro quo!

    Now, the chicken ages and stops laying.

    What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO??

    Why, you continue to care for the chicken...to feed it and respect it during its "life" as you did while it was producing eggs! RESPECT, YO!

    YOU DO NOT EAT THE CHICKEN! It lives out its life according to its NATURE and GENETIC PROGRAMMING. You are living according to the NATURAL LAW OF BOTH!

    Why? Because you are living in the NOW! There being no timeline, there is only NOW. The killing of the chicken affects the Eggs...ALL the eggs concurrently. Betray the chicken NOW and poison the eggs NOW.

    And you don't want to eat poisoned eggs, do you?

    It's really very simple, actually.

    So now, by the sweat of your own brow (and admittedly, taking very little actual sweat) you are feeding yourself and have taken responsibility for your own health. You are full of energy and brimming with positive POWER!

    You grow your own food, maintain your own health and have no need for the pharma or poisoned ag industry!

    At the same time, your need for fiat has been reduced significantly, so the need to toil in some dreary cubicle has been reduced or eliminated! You spend your life in the sunshine, in nature, producing and consuming your own labor.

    How can ANY entity tax the fruit of your labors? Sadly, the various bureaucracies are not set up to process CHICKENS!

    Laughing out loud!

    This is but one very simple action ANYONE can take which changes their lives completely and allows them to take a new path. This earth truly is a biblical GARDEN OF EDEN!

    Profoundly simple, and now laid out clearly for all to see!
    He seems to have a fixation on "GLP", he got some things right, and some very wrong, as expected if you try to play the "this is what people consider a mystery and a hidden truth so it will bring me more people to lead" game

    Take this for example:

    Quote WE aren't the problem...YOU are.

    No one forces you into your routine(s), you CHOOSE.

    Just remember one thing above all...wherever you are...whatever you do...

    you are here because of your choices and beliefs.

    we are just the "gatekeepers".

    One other thing...If you knew what it tasted like, you would take the deal as well.
    No, you are not, you did not had that choice, that's a blatant lie, it's common to think of if you go with the reincarnation and choosing what other experience you want to live on next life, which is unproven entirely

    Quote we are just the "gatekeepers"
    No

    The correct term is "Kai" as in "keeper of the earth" not "gate keeper', because a gate keeper is just the guy standing at the door opening it for the real important people, he doesn't get to listen or know what happens inside once the real thing walks through that door, he got it wrong there.

    He heard about this somewhere but he failed to understand the concept, it got lost in translation...

    But don't quote me on that

    Quote YOU create your own reality...but you are HIGHLY suggestible.

    HIGHLY.

    Childish in so many ways...and you adults are children who never grew up...to reality...all busy telling each other the "beautiful lie".
    Yes, he knows about this very well, totally true He has open eyes, for sure, unless he got this from someone else, there's always that dangerous situation.
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    Default Re: This ridiculous forum thread instantly turned me vegan

    Quote What relationship do you enjoy with your kids

    What do they spend their time doing?

    What is there future?

    The only way WE go down, is if you WAKE UP...and that isn't EVER going to happen.

    Look at the stupid comments on here, and so far not ONE intelligent question!

    you can learn because, as a man of honour, I will answer truthfully.

    but, alas, as one once stated...

    "the truth...the TRUTH...you can't handle the truth..."

    laugh out loud
    Why so much anger? No one asked him to provide all that information, yet he requested AMA, then once people ask, he gets angry? And he called them immature and kids, big contradiction here "laugh out loud", what's the point?

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    Quote Close the door when the winter winds blow cold!
    No, he got it wrong here, sounds reasonable but it is not, the real way was something around "touching you back to back so cold goes away", in the actual winter cold, closing the door does very little, as the air freezes inside anyway. He picked this up from something he doesn't understand. When freezing cold, you get naked and embrace other person, so the heat between your bodies is shared and you survive the night

    This is important in the way he tried to explain here, but i don't know if he understands what he was expressing, because it seems he got a bad explanation of it and went with it.

    "When the wind blows cold, is the last moment you want to close that spiritual, emotional, natural, human door"
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    Default Re: This ridiculous forum thread instantly turned me vegan

    Quote Posted by waxamillionpehhgasus (here)
    Here's the link

    The premise is that the forum thread starter is a "Rothschild", in other words a very high-ranking member of the STS hierarchy. No idea who he actually is.

    I originally clicked on this thread to see how many people were tricked by a sophisticated LARP, but found this guy spitting some major knowledge at times.

    The tone won't be for everyone, but I found it pretty funny. It starts slowly, mostly with insults, but picks up once the good questions start getting asked. Took me two days on and off to read and it was completely worth it.
    I took a quick look, as you say it's a long read so I just took a taster.

    I did catch myself reacting to some of his barbs. There's been a couple of supposed 'elites' dispelling patronising wisdom to the serfs, whether LARPS or genuine it's difficult at times not to respond emotionally when someone is basically boasting about their parasitical status. However there's the signs of an interesting conversation taking place amidst the jibes and maybe this was someone's chosen medium to put out their worldview. Or who knows, maybe it's for real. Either way, it looks of interest so thanks for sharing it here.

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    Default Re: This ridiculous forum thread instantly turned me vegan

    Quote
    it's protocol, by the way.

    doesn't your computer highlight spelling errors? Do you care how you appear to others?
    And yet... he made tons of those same mistakes, even i can tell, with my third hand English

    I think you want to take a second, a third, and then a forth look into his words.

    But i'm not a Rothschild! So what could i possibly know?

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    I am re-reading this and boy it is certainly different the second time.

    Quote Well, Reptilian is an emotionally charged word here, and elsewhere. So please forget the reptilian reference for now and consider the following "facts" and "questions"...

    Who are the "Children of Israel?" Why was their seed blessed? Why were they told not to inter-marry with other people and to circumcise their sons for identification? Why were they told to preserve their geneology? Where did Adam and Eve's sons go to get their wives, if they were the only "humans" on earth?

    Many scientists believe that modern man evolved from ape-like primates. They have much proof to back up their theories, including modern blood analysis and comparative studies between modern man and lower anthripoids, such as the chimpanzee and the Rhesus monkey.

    It has been proven that the majority of mankind (85%) has a blood factor common with the rhesus monkey. This is called rhesus positive blood. Usually shortened to Rh positive. This factor is completely independent from the A, B, 0 blood types.

    In the study of genetics, we find that we can only inherit what our ancestors had...except in the case of environmental or selective mutation. We can have any of numerous combinations of traits inherited from all of our ancestors. Nothing more and nothing less. Therefore, if man and ape evolved from a common ancestor, their blood would have evolved the same way. Blood factors are transmitted with much more biological precision than any other characteristic. It could be argued from scientific scrutiny that modern man and rhesus monkey have had a common ancestor sometime in the "past". All other earthly primates share this Rh factor. But this leaves out the people who are Rh negative. If all mankind evolved from the same ancestor their blood would be compatible. Where did the Rh negatives come from? If they are not the descendants of prehistoric man, could they be the descendants of planetary travelers?

    All animals and other living creatures known to man can breed with any other of their species. Relative size and color makes no difference. Why does infant's haemolytic disease occur in humans if all humans are the same species? Haemolytic disease is the allergic reaction that occurs when an Rh negative mother is carrying a Rh positive child. Her blood builds up antibodies to destroy an ALIEN substance (the same way it would a virus), thereby destroying the infant. Why would a mother's body reject her own offspring? Nowhere else in nature does this occur naturally. This same problem does occur in mules - a cross between a horse and donkey. This fact alone points to the distinct possibility of a cross-breeding between two similar but genetically different species.

    Why does "science" (ie, the little peoples science)fail to explain how Rh negative is possible? Those familiar with blood factors, admit that Rh - humans must at minimum, be a mutation (if not descendants) of a different ancestor. If a mutation, what caused the mutation? Why does it continue with the exact characteristics? Why does it so violently reject the Rh factor, if it was within their own ancestry? Who was this ancestor? Difficulties in determining ethnology are largely overcome by the use of blood group data, for they are a single gene characteristic and not affected by the environment.

    The Basque people of Spain and France have the highest percentage of Rh negative blood. About 30% have (rr) Rh negative and about 60% carry one (r) negative gene. The average is only 15%-Rh negative, while some groups have very little. The Oriental jewish people of Israel, also have a high percent Rh negative, although most other Oriental people have only about 1% Rh negative. The Samaritans and the Black Cochin jewish also have a high percentage of Rh negative blood, although again the Rh negative blood is rare among most black people.

    Could the Basque people be one of these colonies? Or could it have been the original colony on earth? The origin of the Basques is unknown. Their language is unlike any other European language. Some believe that Basque was the original language of the book of Genesis. Some believe it was the original language of the world and possibly of the creator.

    Genesis 6:2 "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives, all of which they chose." Who were the children of these marriages? Genesis 6:4 "God came into the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, and the same became mighty of old." From the King James Bible dictionary we find: "menchildren - men of Israel, male children of God, not children of man - Ex. 34:23." Ex. 34:7 states "The iniquity of the father will be unto the children unto the fourth generation." It is plain that something is inherited, could it be the blood?

    Blood is mentioned more often than any other word in the Bible, except God. These two words you will find on almost every page, blood and God! (The blood of the Gods?) This message has been written for thousands of years. There is a connection between the blood and the Gods.

    The American Indians had the tradition of making good friends, "blood brothers", if they thought they were worthy. Could this tradition have been for a reason? Could they have actually been checking to see if they were blood brothers (the same type blood)? The clumping (aggulation) that occurs when Rh positive and Rh negative blood are mixed is visible to the naked eye. Could they have been told, by their ancestors, that their blood was different from that of the rest of mankind except for their brothers and sisters, from other tribes, scattered throughout the earth. Indian tradition declares that their ancestors were of cosmic origin. The Indian totem pole is actually a family genealogy.

    Why all this preoccupation with genealogy among different people scattered throughout the earth? No other animal on earth has this preoccupation with ancestry. Where did this tradition come from? People scattered throughout the earth, who have had no-known contact with each other all simultaneously have the urge to chart their family tree? Why? How important could this have been to primitive cave men? Struggling to survive, to chart their genealogy? They had no understanding of modern genetics and inheritance. So why should they preserve their genealogy? Were they told to preserve their heritage, until a future date when they would return and it would be understood? Until a time, like now, when their descendent would be able to understand the message they were leaving.

    Although they probably didn't realize the importance of preserving their genealogy, they may have believed that future generations would understand. Are we that future generation? Was there a message left for us to understand? Do we have the courage to look for the answer?

    Do we really want to know or would we rather keep our heads buried in the sand? What we don't know will still affect us. You will not see unless you look. Only through knowledge will we find truth.

    Rh negative blood has not evolved on earth in the natural course of events.

    For many years people have been searching for the wrong thing. Could the true "missing link" actually be man himself? The unknown link between earth and the stars - hybrid man. Is man the missing link between primate and extraterrestrial?

    Upon x-raying the tomb of Makare, high priestess of Ammon, it was found that the infant buried with her labeled Prince Moutenihet was actually a female hamadryas baboon. An examination of Makare showed she had given birth shortly before dying.

    Dear Bickle! Start to consider the possibility that you, the Rh positive primate that you are...have only just begun your evolutionary journey. Consider that you are evolving as fast as your little helix can regenerate!

    The "others" who you so misunderstand have engaged you to our mutual benefit and survival!

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    Quote It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    Someone will have to explain how plants react when they read that you are intent on eating them in even larger quantities than before because you have stopped eating meat.


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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    Someone will have to explain how plants react when they read that you are intent on eating them in even larger quantities than before because you have stopped eating meat.
    What a conundrum indeed

    When i was around 14, a cow got killed for my birthday, i stood there, watching all of it, second by second.

    There was this incredible sadness in the air, and then i look at the cow and she was looking a me, her eyes connected directly to mine, and she was in a very odd state, as if she "knew" and she locked eyes with me and did not let go, then the guy came with the gun and basically shot her in the forehead, the cow went down and closed her eyes, and that was it. "for me"

    If plants go through that same stuff, then we are way worse indeed.

    I guess we are going to have to eat air from now own
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    "For many years people have been searching for the wrong thing. Could the true "missing link" actually be man himself? The unknown link between earth and the stars - hybrid man. Is man the missing link between primate and extraterrestrial?"

    The missing link mentioned so many times refer to the evolutionary link between primate/ chimpanzee and man. and not the link between primate and extraterrestrial. there is no said evolutionary link because its were the hybridizing between chimpanzee and extraterrestrial happened. So yes man is the link between primates and extraterrestrial but its not missing.

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    By the way all men are product of hybridizing Brown, black, white. Think of it as different mixes of many experimentation. THERE IS NO ESPECIAL RACE OR SONS OF GODS. You can put this article on the lies and brainwashing category. Just like the bible and any other. Some truths as bait and then the lies hooks you.

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    Someone will have to explain how plants react when they read that you are intent on eating them in even larger quantities than before because you have stopped eating meat.
    What a conundrum indeed

    When i was around 14, a cow got killed for my birthday, i stood there, watching all of it, second by second.

    There was this incredible sadness in the air, and then i look at the cow and she was looking a me, her eyes connected directly to mine, and she was in a very odd state, as if she "knew" and she locked eyes with me and did not let go, then the guy came with the gun and basically shot her in the forehead, the cow went down and closed her eyes, and that was it. "for me"

    If plants go through that same stuff, then we are way worse indeed.

    I guess we are going to have to eat air from now own
    It is a conundrum, and whatever the answer, it cannot be imperative veganism. There would seem to be some kind of permission involved. Take those shoals of dolphins answering the fishermen’s call. They wouldn’t do that if they did not consent. There has to be something in it for the ‘victim’, some kind of communion sacrament that works both ways: participating in a greater consciousness or something like that. If so, then whatever we are doing wrong with respect to animals we are also doing wrong with respect to plants. Hardcore vegans object to drinking cow’s milk, but they don’t object to their mother’s milk, yet the gift is of the same order, or should be.


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    While I'm not vegan/vegetarian I can absolutely understand why people choose that lifestyle. That being said, reading this interview is painful. The lexicon used is that of a teen who plays Call of Duty all day or someone in their early 20s who 'knows everything.' It's hard for me to understand why any educated person would give this interview any serious consideration. This is just bonkers. If you want to be vegan, find a vegan who has their head screwed on straight.

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    Someone will have to explain how plants react when they read that you are intent on eating them in even larger quantities than before because you have stopped eating meat.
    What a conundrum indeed

    When i was around 14, a cow got killed for my birthday, i stood there, watching all of it, second by second.

    There was this incredible sadness in the air, and then i look at the cow and she was looking a me, her eyes connected directly to mine, and she was in a very odd state, as if she "knew" and she locked eyes with me and did not let go, then the guy came with the gun and basically shot her in the forehead, the cow went down and closed her eyes, and that was it. "for me"

    If plants go through that same stuff, then we are way worse indeed.

    I guess we are going to have to eat air from now own
    It is a conundrum, and whatever the answer, it cannot be imperative veganism. There would seem to be some kind of permission involved. Take those shoals of dolphins answering the fishermen’s call. They wouldn’t do that if they did not consent. There has to be something in it for the ‘victim’, some kind of communion sacrament that works both ways: participating in a greater consciousness or something like that. If so, then whatever we are doing wrong with respect to animals we are also doing wrong with respect to plants. Hardcore vegans object to drinking cow’s milk, but they don’t object to their mother’s milk, yet the gift is of the same order, or should be.
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    Someone will have to explain how plants react when they read that you are intent on eating them in even larger quantities than before because you have stopped eating meat.

    I invite you to see the responses that Akasha and myself made regarding plants in the thread that I started, called 10 reasons to be vegan.

    Regarding the comments made about the fishermen and the dolphins - it is the dolphins who are the benefits/recipients of food from the fisherman's net, not the fish being caught in the net. There is a symbiotic relationship happening but not between the fish and the fisherman.

    As I mentioned in the 10 Reasons to be vegan thread, animals are on a different evolutionary path than ourselves.

    A cows milk is the perfect formula made for their growing baby calf. All the hormones, the vitamins, the ratios of fat etc are perfect for growing a 900 pound cow.

    It isn't a gift for the mother cow when you consider that a cow continuously needs to be impregnated so that it can keep on producing milk. In its short life span of 6 years, it will produce 2 - 4 offspring.

    In commercial dairies (and even on the smaller dairy farms) the calves will be taken away immediately from its mother and the bobby calf (male) slaughtered (the males cows like the male baby chicks cannot produce milk or lay eggs). The mother cries for its calf and mother cows often experience depression. Their female offspring experience social issues too when separated immediately from their mothers.

    It is a common and unnecessary practice in the dairy industry for female cows to have a porthole inserted in their sides. Whilst there are claims made that this doesn't hurt or make the cow uncomfortable, I had the experience of having a spontaneous pneumothorax when I was 21 (I had severe bronchitis at the time). Surgeons drilled a hole in my right upper side to insert a tube so that the fluids could drain out of the chest. I was conscious the entire time. After the local anaesthesia wore off, it was a very uncomfortable two weeks with that tube in-between my rib cage. I might add that ever since going vegan that not only do I no longer suffer from bronchitis, I no longer get colds or the flu.

    People don't need to drink a cows milk, they want to drink a cows milk.

    The formula of breast milk is perfect for a human being. That is a gift.
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    Well said Constance, I couldn't have put it better myself!

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    Well said Constance, I couldn't have put it better myself!


    The thing is Mare, we could go back and forth on this forever with opposing views but as Brian Gerard Schaefer said ever so succinctly, very few people are genuinely open and willing to get to the true heart of the matter and consider all the evidence; evidence free of the biased information and propaganda from the underbelly of society - the medical/ pharmaceutical/ military/ industrial complex. If they were to do so, all the answers would be immediately obvious, self-evident, undeniable, and indisputable.
    One of the biggest issues people face when exploring the vegan approach is the conflicting science supporting both sides. There are diabolically opposed views on nearly every topic within this subject. This can be extremely confusing and upsetting for people wanting to make an informed decision. There are the usual amounts of ignorance and arrogance on both sides of what is often an argument. However, when you consider all the evidence that is free of the biased information and propaganda from the underbelly of society - the medical/ pharmaceutical/ military/ industrial complex - the answers are immediately obvious, self-evident, undeniable, and indisputable. However, it seems very few are genuinely open and willing to get to the true heart of the matter.

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    Looks like some people skimmed over this crucial part of my first post:

    Quote Posted by waxamillionpehhgasus (here)
    [URL="https://ia802300.us.archive.org/8/items/rofschildv1/IAmARofschildAxeMeAQuestion.html"]but found this guy spitting some major knowledge at times.
    I'm talking about plants. If I was talking about metaphysical concepts or blood types or other stuff, I would have posted in a different section.

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote It explains, scientifically, what happens when you talk to plants, send them love, etc.
    It explains, scientifically, how plants can telepathically read your mind.
    Someone will have to explain how plants react when they read that you are intent on eating them in even larger quantities than before because you have stopped eating meat.
    You're failing to realize something big: that by eating meat, you're actually eating a higher number plants than if you were to just eat plants.

    You also seem to have not read the excerpt from the thread I posted in the OP, or else you would realize that plants do not necessarily mind being eaten in the first place. If you read the book, you will understand why that is in a more specific sense.

    Otherwise, perhaps watch a factory farming video in the background the next time you eat meat. You won't mind, right?
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    You're posing lazy questions and making incorrect assumptions due to your lack of knowledge.
    Hey.

    This is your second of just two posts following your 'Welcome to Avalon' reply, which we appreciated. You might be surprised what many members here do know.

    Cool it. A good piece of advice may be to make friends first, and then have animated, passionate discussions with your friends.

    But — make friends first.


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    Quote Posted by waxamillionpehhgasus (here)
    You also seem to have not read the excerpt from the thread I posted in the OP, or else you would realize that plants do not necessarily mind being eaten in the first place. If you read the book, you will understand why that is in a more specific sense.
    I don't mean to hold your feet to the fire I'm just curious about your beliefs: does this apply to only certain plants? Like some plants mind whereas others don't? Or is it across the board that plants don't mind being eaten?

    No disrespect, but it's relatively well known that plants have natural defences against critters.

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