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    Question Jacobo Grinberg-Zylberbaum

    Have you ever heard about Jacobo Grinberg?

    He had contact with shamans in Mexico in the 80s and so on

    He then went to write some books about all he learned and how to apply it with science and life. And got rejected by what was current scientists and such, back then

    On the day of his birthday, he disappeared on the way to his family party, never to be seen again

    I have searched for his books, in english form (he knew and wrote his books in several languages) yet those are nowhere to be found online, or offline so far :/

    Have you ever heard of him?

    Do you have any books by him?

    It does look like he was ahead of some understandings we have today, but like 40 years ago or so

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Grinberg
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    Interesting! Never heard of him before thank you!

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    I have searched for his books, in english form (he knew and wrote his books in several languages) yet those are nowhere to be found online, or offline so far :/
    Very interesting, and thanks! His books can be found here, but it seems only in Spanish:

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    I've heard about him from Dean Radin and others as a reference regarding the telepathy and brain-to-brain / mind-to-mind entanglement experiments. Here's an old link I bookmarked. Many studies in this field have been made, some by Grinberg-Zylberbaum:

    http://deanradin.blogspot.com/2010/0...periments.html

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Have you ever heard about Jacobo Grinberg?

    He had contact with shamans in Mexico in the 80s and so on

    He then went to write some books about all he learned and how to apply it with science and life. And got rejected by what was current scientists and such, back then

    On the day of his birthday, he disappeared on the way to his family party, never to be seen again

    I have searched for his books, in english form (he knew and wrote his books in several languages) yet those are nowhere to be found online, or offline so far :/

    Have you ever heard of him?








    Do you have any books by him?

    It does look like he was ahead of some understandings we have today, but like 40 years ago or so

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Grinberg

    I never heard of him Mashika, but found this short film about his work and others that contributed to it.




    I found a few pdfs about his work in english, but not sure how to upload them.


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    I have not heard of him before, thanks for the heads up. I'm fascinated in Mexico's native history, especially regarding mysticism, shamanism, art, etc.

    I see some of his books are on Amazon. I'll pick one up. I'm slowly learning Spanish and I've been planning to get a Spanish book to further improve my Spanish comprehension, the timing of your post is perfect.
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    "Documental el Secreto de Jacobo Grinberg"

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    • The Secret Behind Doctor Grinberg

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    “After his passing to the other world, he would not die like the rest of the humans, he would voluntarily disappear, his body would disappear without a trace” . -Jacobo Grinberg-Zilberbaum



    Dr. Jacobo Grinberg, a Mexican neurophysiologist, expanded the scientific study of conscience and experimented with levels that grazed the secret behind telepathy. In 1994, in the climax of his scientific career, Dr. Grinberg mysteriously disappeared. This documentary tells us about the impossible story of experts, family and friends in search of his body. We are upon a metaphysical thriller hatched by discoveries made through seven years of journeys and arduous investigations.



    It all began in a trip to Mexico, in the Amatlan mountains. I was talking to a woman about Mexican shamans and healers when she asked me if I knew Dr. Jacobo Grinberg, ‘the greatest Mexican scientist in the XXth century’. She told me he had disappeared many years ago and it was very likely that the CIA or the NASA had kidnapped him. I said I had never heard of him. She continued to tell me about him and said he had been an assistant to Pachita the healer, famous for opening her patients wide open with a knife and changing their ill organs.

    When she mentioned Pachita, I remembered having read about her in an Alejandro Jodorowsky's book ‘The dance of reality’ where he tells his own experience with her, and I remembered having read Jacobo Grinberg’s name somewhere. Immediately, I had a weird intuition, so I opened my leather bag and took out a small book of poems I had bought the day before, only to confirm that the author was indeed Jacobo Grinberg-Zilberbaum. At that moment, I had no idea what that little morning synchronicity would mean...​
    - Ida Cuéllar





    The project ‘The Secret Behind Dr. Grinberg’ revolves around Dr. Jacobo Grinberg, one of the most prominent scientists in Mexico. Specialised in neuroscience, Grinberg studied and researched within the field of Science at the Laboratory of the UNAM (National Autonomous University of Mexico) and published over 50 books. His work is renowned for combining Mexican shamanism, eastern disciplines and meditation together with science after meeting the legendary healer, Pachita. He founded the National Institute for the Study of Consciousness and his legacy has left a deep print in the scientific story of Mexico and the world.

    Grinberg was a scientist not understood at his time. His research work is now cutting edge science and many of the things he studied continue to be an enigma today. Grinberg proposed, back in the 70s & 80s, what many researchers of the consciousness are proposing today: that the Universe is a consciousness itself and constitutes one sole being.

    One of Grinberg’s biggest achievements has been the demonstration of the scientific bases for telepathy; however, those discoveries have yet to be accepted by the scientific community. If this was to be confirmed, it would represent a revolution in the field of science and would give meaning to the existence of humanity in the world, ending the nihilism of the actual materialistic world view.




    Amit Gozwani: PhD Physics. Great friend and colleague of Dr. Grinberg.
    Major Padilla: Policeman in charge of Grinberg's case. He disappeared in 2010.
    Carlos Castaneda: Peruvian Anthropologist and writer.
    Patrick Harpur: English writer.
    Lizette Arditti: Grinberg's first wife.
    Estusha Grinberg: Grinberg's daughter and musician.
    Teresa Mendoza: Grinberg's last wife. She also disappeared.
    Pachita: One of Mexico's most important healers, using supernatural methods.
    Sam Quiñones: Journalist, writer of the article "Looking for Doctor Grinberg" (1996)


    How is it possible that almost no one knows who Dr. Grinberg is and his impact in the science community?

    After the triumph of scientific Empiricism (end of the XVII century), based on observation and experimentation over the sensitive world, Materialism as a philosophical system became the unquestionable paradigm of the Western World for the last 400 years. The basic principle of this philosophic system is based in the axiom: ‘Matter is all there is’.

    For Grinberg, on the contrary, all our experience, everything that we can know is nothing other than consciousness. We don't know things directly, we know them as manifestations inside our consciousness, decoded by our mind. For Grinberg, consciousness is ‘what is behind every act of perception, what supports the mere quality of experience itself’. Reality is for him not matter, but consciousness.

    Grinberg was ahead of his time. His first theories about consciousness formulated in the 70s are today cutting edge science but the theories he elaborated later on are still today somewhat regarded as science fiction: demonstration of telepathy, remote viewing, explanation on shamanic healing, the unity of the Universe...
    Was Dr. Grinberg’s research valuable or dangerous enough to make certain forces willing to eliminate him?

    With this film we don't only want to ask us this question, but we specially want to encourage the scientific community to research on Grinberg's phenomena.


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    SCRIPT WRITER : Juan Muñoz-Tebar & Miguel León Durán
    DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY : Jose Luis Bernal http://joseluisbernal.es
    EDITOR : Judith Miralles

    POLAR STAR FILMS : Established by Carles Brugueras in 1997, POLAR STAR FILMS is an independent audiovisual production company. Based in Barcelona, the company has a track record in creative documentaries, short fiction and advertising.
    Polar Star Films has been co-producing with broadcasters such as ARTE, BBC, SWR/NDR, France Télévisions, Al Jazeera, TVE and TVC. Recent works include: Freightened (2016, dir. Denis Delestrac, 52 & 84 min); Google and the World Brain (dir. Ben Lewis, 52 & 89 min, screened at Sundance in 2013); Falciani’s Tax Bomb (premiere Dok.Munich 2015, dir. Ben Lewis, 52 & 90 min); all funded by Creative Media Slate Funding.

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    • Interview with Jacobo Grinberg (cc-option).

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    Jacobo studied for 15 years (before mysteriously disappearing) how the human mind works and creates reality as we perceive it, basing many of his studies on the ancestral wisdom of Mexican shamans, especially on Pachita who had a Higher Consciousness level.

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    This Mexican man talks about things that foreign scientists now claim to have discovered!

    How come I hadn't heard about him and his work

    Because now you are ready to listen to him. Everything happens just when we need it.

    Nothing is accidental.

    @Chelo Ruiz Gomez I agree with you, the question is: if everything comes at the right time and it is a learning process, why does this information reach us?

    @alberto reyes So that you are aware that there is nothing separate from you. Everything is you. So that you discover your true Essence. To remember Who you really are beyond the holographic matrix that denies what We Are. We are the observers and through that observation of our mundane life, when each one is ready it seems that through us the REAL information arrives.

    @alberto reyes This information does not reach us, we who obtain it have tried to do so
    It is not understanding what it says ...
    In the end, the information is there for everyone, knowledge is available to everyone, taking silence as a starting point.

    Here is something interesting that can help you understand a bit more. Enjoy it

    There is nothing new under the sun Lulu, this was taught by the Buddha over 2,500 years ago. Greetings

    @Chelo Ruiz Gomez you want to say that we are the universe experiencing itself, I agree with you and it is something that has intrigued me for a long time, it is comforting to find an opinion that minimally supports that hypothesis that I have not only raised; but many humans throughout history and it makes sense to reason the fact that we are composed of most of the elements scattered around the universe and that we are a biomechanical process of Gaia that is worth redundancy, we are not alien to it but part of, at the same time Gaia is part of a larger process involving the solar system and the universe. It could be said that this is a living being, although not necessarily conscious, but that consciousness manifests itself in us and in other self-conscious organisms throughout the universe.

    @Chelo Ruiz Gomez for which of his works do you recommend starting reading?

    Friend, here you have the link of Jacobo's books for sale on Amazon or perhaps your usual bookstore already have them or can pick them up for you. The one that you feel inspired to buy will be just the one you need. The truth is not in the books although they may point to it. It is more that we begin to create a relationship with a part of our mind that already knows everything. And sometimes this is presented outside as something that tells us how to see that everything we seek is already in the Mind, within us. Beyond the ego mind and beyond the entire perceivable world.

    @Chelo Ruiz Gomez great 😉 thank you very much, very good and inspired recommendation. I already want to know more about consciousness and the chair offered by Dr. Grinberg and of course, in the end it is oneself who draws his own conclusions, to tell the truth, this material is only one light of many others that lead us to the transcendence. In good time, happy Thursday

    Now I understand a little why they disappeared, Mexico would be awake to have given it the approach it deserved in its time, I am grateful to find this so ignored by so many.

    The fact that he has disappeared does not mean that you cannot read his work as a first approach to oriental philosophy, study it and as a consequence be a Mexican who "wakes up" (time does not exist, that is, specify in "his time" 'has no relevance) (: to avoid the cult of personality, we can start by valuing the message more than the issuer

    @DM Fxxx you are absolutely right, study read and you will realize that at no time does he handle in his studies and ipotesis what you affirm (oriental I mean if you must read ok)

    His book on synergistic theory is one of my favorites. I read it three times to understand it

    I started with Pachita's book, but the next Book is the Sintergic Theory. Greetings Little Brothers.

    @Jorge Fernandez where do you get them

    An out of the ordinary, a genius ... One of my mentors told me that sooner or later when scientists discover how reality works and that we are its creators, they will become mystics like the beloved Nikola Tesla

    In the faculty of psychology unam the professors take it as an urban legend, one told me that they saw him get on a plane and he never returned. All this because it gave me a half-crazy insight during my career because they did not study them with scientific rigor and that was how I came to know about Jacobo.

    How His Holiness the Dalai Lama would say in a technology and meditation congress: "You Westerners are very advanced in technology, however in matters of the mind; you are in kindergarten"

    Form is void, void is form "
    -Sutra of the Heart

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    I have long had this same idea that the mind creates material reality. What my mind does not understand is how others manage to see / perceive those same colors, textures, shapes in the same way as others? I perceive the matrix. Could it be that as Carl Jung said, Is there an invisible flow or river of collective consciousness that influences everyone, as if it were a smoke that we inhaled? Very interesting, thank you very much for sharing. I will read more about your work.
    That they are well.

    I've heard it again. It will be the level of coherence that leads us to interaction with another neural field. Synergistic theory. Generate the links. Very interesting! Thanks, again

    Hello Friend, thank you for your comment. If you want to delve into this, I am a teacher and student of a Miracles course, which postulates that there is only one mind that is the one that dreams this entire perceptual universe. That is why we all see the same thing although with our filters based on the experiences and learned beliefs that we have acquired during our lives. There is only one dreaming mind of the Universe. A single verse, makes everything. A single idea makes everything. The idea that we are separated from Life. Of God or of the Unity that is the Totality of what exists. And each of us is one of the characters in the dream. I leave you my facebook I usually publish about it and in this same YouTube channel you can see a playlist that I have dedicated to this topic, It is called self-knowledge.

    @Chelo Ruiz Gomez Very interesting, but I will keep it in mind when psychology and its branches are a science 😃.

    In his work, Jacobo Grinberg answers your question. He establishes that the perception that all of us have about material things is due to the fact that our physiological conformation (anatomical structure of the brain) is the same in every human being. The most profound questions about its operation are those that he seeks to explain in his theory.

    In fact I also had the same conclusion as you, I know a little about Carl Gustav Jung and the collective consciousness and I believe that there is a relationship between matter and the collective consciousness of the entire planet. An easy way to understand this consciousness is with the movie "Avatar" where their collective consciousness was super developed

    interesting, so far I've been finding out about this guy.

    Of this type of findings that must be relaunched. I have time thinking about what ideas like these are possible. And here they are silenced by time.

    Is there a scientist currently doing similar serious studies?

    "Pachita" disappeared it 😅

    Material existence of Juan Matus or not, he said that sometimes men of knowledge decided to disappear, perhaps it was the case, perhaps in an experiment for some reason that he could not control, he disappeared.

    Or maybe some government caught him, or some powerful organization, as they say, everything is for the best, maybe we were not ready for what he was discovering, what he explains in books must only be the surface of what he came to understand and feel

    I also believe the same as you. Don Juan Matus used to say to his dear friend Castañeda that only a madman dared to enter the path of knowledge, this phrase always stuck in my mind and I managed to understand that it was possible after consistently trying to move the assemblage point to Whatever place one proposed to, the issue for me was how important it was to move the assemblage point as to return to the starting point, I think that there could be the answer to the mysterious disappearance of Jacobo Greenberg

    What is known is that he investigated consciousness, which is what the ascended masters teach. It is said that when a person manages to reach consciousness, which is the dimension where teachers live and that many do not return to their body.

    @litempo 8 yes, documents that spoke of his studies were declassified, they had an interest in him, they should have kidnapped him, well it's a great possibility.
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    I have searched for his books, in english form (he knew and wrote his books in several languages) yet those are nowhere to be found online, or offline so far :/
    Very interesting, and thanks! His books can be found here, but it seems only in Spanish:
    Thank you. Unfortunately i also only found spanish versions, even on Amazon, which makes it impossible to just quote things without having to translate and mostly impossible to correlate between different books. Because of not having a reference to point to without also translating. And without a good translation, a lot gets lost from original message :/

    Im starting to think that the translated versions are missing 'by design'
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    I find it very interesting he was already talking about a "matrix" in the interpretation most correct about what a simulation would be, instead of an abstract concept that hides the nature behind simple concepts

    Also he said something i had heard before, but now i think what i heard may have come from him initially

    "When you pray to a God or Source, are not you talking to yourself"?

    The great observer, the matrix, is always watching, we are the matrix consciousness, in several ways. Providing the cpu power to "process and refactor reality in real time"

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