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    Default Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Hi all, we are considering moving, possibly to Ecuador or somewhere else in South America and are in the process of looking in to the pros and cons of different countries. We recently visited Sweden as that was an option but have now crossed it off.

    Anybody else been looking at a move and want to share what they've found out? We'd be really grateful for any input.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    I think responses are going to be a very subjective. Bill lives there so I assume he likes it. But my friends moved there from Europe and after a year of travelling, looking for a place they felt like settling, they decided it was absolutely not for them. They ended up returning and buying land in the hills of Spain.

    I probably should add that I moved from Canada to Australia and after 23 years still love it.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Enfoldedblue is right. This IS a very subjective matter!
    "Freer of covid measures" is also a relative thing: you mentioned Sweden. From what I heard, there are now pretty tough measures, compared to very few early last year. So, things like that change too.

    It's probably going to be difficult to find any place in Europe that is "easier on the measures".

    Outside Europe, there are often other problems and it really depends on what is important for you, it can be very different from person to person.

    Personally I am looking more into strengthening the immunesystem (as much as possible), use borax (see the borax conspiracy thread) and trust the spiritual intentions you have.

    It doesn't harm to look for a better place of course; my favorite (so far) outside Europe would be Costa Rica.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    I was thinking of moving to another country, my shortlist was South America. Since then I've been talking with a family member about pooling and relocating to an isolated area, but somewhere in the UK. I haven't ruled going abroad out

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    I am considering to move to Paraguay - namely to El Paraiso Verde.
    It's a community of spiritual minded - non-religious people, mostly of German/Austrian/Swiss origin but also other nationalities are welcome.
    There is also a YT channel with many of their videos - mostly in German - but some are subtitled: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM5...zbV8L6w/videos

    Only small caveat is in order to live there, you need to purchase a piece of land (which you subsequently own), but you can get all details from their videos and their website.
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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    It is also not "just" the covid-measures that one should take in account I think.

    There is a faster and increasing (in size and importance) polarization going on between people that are defending the earth (wanting to be close to nature, in every possible way) and those that are "all in" for AI, transhumanism, ...

    There are still places where one can "retreat", being close to nature, creating a small eco-village, and live with a minimum of "technology".

    But it takes some searching to find a place that can offer what one is looking for.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Egypt or possibly Uganda is on my radar.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Quote Posted by Michi (here)
    I am considering to move to Paraguay - namely to El Paraiso Verde.
    It's a community of spiritual minded - non-religious people, mostly of German/Austrian/Swiss origin but also other nationalities are welcome.
    There is also a YT channel with many of their videos - mostly in German - but some are subtitled: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM5...zbV8L6w/videos

    Only small caveat is in order to live there, you need to purchase a piece of land (which you subsequently own), but you can get all details from their videos and their website.
    This place sounds wonderful - I'm all set to pack my bags and move there - only problem is the getting there without having something stuck up my nose or a jab in the arm. Wish I'd heard of the this place sooner - thanks for sharing

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Other things to consider is how you gain entrance to a country - such as buying land or investing in a business. If there are things like that be sure to read and research everything you can about it. Things do not always go as planned. A visa for entry can be subjective and laws can change - be sure that you have a plan 'B'.

    Another way to investigate a country that you are interested in is we look at other people that have gone and they report how much they love their decision. So, it is also good to look into people that have gone with a good plan and once they were there they changed their mind. Look up people that "left" the country and why.

    Things will be different for everyone depending upon what they are looking for, what they are able to accept, and how adaptable they are willing to be.

    There is some truth to an old saying "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."

    I am always looking for a place to go. I guess that is me always being flexible and keeping a plan 'b' active and mentally ready to go.


    In my own soul searching, I found that I am a person who has always longed for a place to call home - and I think I might never find it. On the other hand, maybe if I stopped looking I would see that I am home.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    When one is seeking to move to a new country, there are issues that you probably have never thought about. For instance, have you ever had past lives in that location? If you have, was living there a positive or negative experience? One might then ask, how can I possibly know the answer to such a crazy question!? Well, I have an easy litmus test for this: Which cuisines are your favorites? If you love Japanese food, for instance, you probably had enjoyable past lives in Japan. If you hate some other cuisine, you probably had some bad experiences in that part of the world, or if you are neutral to a particular cuisine, you probably never had a past life in that location.

    Another major consideration is something called "Astrocartography" which is the astrological forecast for you in a new location. I would definitely check that out before making a major international move. There is good astrocartography software available. I use Kepler software which has that too. Otherwise consult an astrologer.

    Another consideration is your age. Some countries have a hidden agenda in which they won't allow people over the age of 45 to become residents. This is especially true for countries like Australia, that have universal health care. I don't know the current situation there, but most Western countries have set very high bars for residency, except the U.S. which is letting people pour over the borders.

    One small spot on Earth that seems to lack most barriers is the Turkish part of Cyprus, which is not officially recognized as existing by any international organization. Only the Greek part of Cyprus is recognized as a duly established government. I know this because I have students there, and have visited those students on several occasions. It has a tempting climate, but is experiencing the Covid plandemic like everywhere else. I think you only have to buy a house there to live there. You can arrive there via the Greek part of the Island, and will need to show your passport when crossing the barrier separating Greek Cypriots from Turkish Cypriots. Since it was a British colony until about 1961, most people on the island speak English.

    My favorite country on Earth is Australia, and I am a citizen of that country currently living in America. I hope to return to Australia as soon as some of the Covid craziness subsides. Australia is a socialist country, however, and suffers interminable restrictions and government control as a result. Even with all the restrictions it still has lovely energy.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Everything depends on your age, your family situation, your skills in the workforce
    actually on everything. Ponder well before you go, as an old song goes.
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    Young, single and adventurous, go for it as I did, and never looked back.

    do your homework in advance...............

    Good luck!!!!!!!
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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    I hear good things about Panama. I have a good friend and Ex-Patriot who has lived there now a few years. She started in Costs Rica for a year of so but found Panama more to her liking. Knowing her and myself, Iím pretty sure we share many of the same considerations.

    When I left the states and moved to Canada in 2010, I wasnít planning on coming back. I was ďcalledĒ to return in early 2013. After all Iíve been through the past few years, Iím not feeling that call as strongly as I did anymore. Which might mean Iíve done what Iím supposed to do.

    We will see what happens next, but Central and South America are where Iím drawn to, rather than Africa, Europe or Asia.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Oh yeah, I would really enjoy a tropical climate - it has been a cold winter here.

    Would be fun if a bunch of Avalonians moved south - we could all have a meet-up in Ecuador with Bill!

    Or if I do get there myself, Bill and everyone could come to my place! Sometimes writing things down helps to make them happen.

    Anyone ever done one of those "wish" boards where you put a bunch of pictures of the things you want to see happen in your life? I think I am going to try one for a nice place in the south!

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    I lived in Brazil for many years, time enough to get a deep insight in their politics and way of life, I still have family and friends over there, now I am living in Thailand, I also liked Taiwan very much.
    I have no plan to move around anymore, I am probably settle for life here, I also like it here, unless government/immigration decide they do not want foreign in their lands anymore..
    then IF I had to move once again, I would go to Africa (Namibia or Angola), or Central America (Ecuador), or South America (Brazil) or Back home in Portugal (but the increasing level of BS over there, tells me to stay away, actually the same for Brazil right now).
    Yeah Ecuador and Namibia are the two places always in my mind, and I never been there before, hopefully one day, even if it is for a short visit. The deserted stunning beaches of Namibia, is just unreal, I once heard it is a surf's paradise with one of the longest waves on earth, more than 2KM in good condition.

    But of course, life is not only fun, do your research, not a single place will fit 100% what you are expecting, I say by experience, sometimes you have to learn to live with a few problems, it is not the end of the world.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Thanks everyone for all your input and insights!

    I moved from the UK to Germany in 1999 and have been here since then. The Merkel regime is getting claustrophobic and talk of covid vaccines for children in the summer is just unacceptable to us. Furthermore, they recently introduced 6 to 10 year olds having to wear masks all day in school - FFP2 (a.k.a. N95) masks no less! These masks come under work regulations here where it is strictly provided for how long a worker may wear a mask and how long a break without mask must be - but not for little children!!! Older children must of course also wear masks in school. This is all a disaster for mental, physical and spiritual health. A pediatrician here has done research showing the terrible negative effects of masks on children. This is just one aspect of many which concerns us greatly.

    Of course none of us know what the future holds and it could be that after a move, new measures are introduced whereever one moves to and one finds oneself sitting in the same boat again.

    Currently we are unsure how to move forward so all your input is most welcome and valuable!

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    there are also the safe zones to consider in case of micro nova and pole flip szenario.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oKa...PVS8br&index=9

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    If I have to move my top priority will be the energy of the people in the place. I used to be a sailor and been to many places around the world. I like Australia or New Zealand. Very relax, laid back but fun there. But that was 27 years ago.

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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Is there another world option? (Asking for a friend)

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    Quote Posted by Ricker (here)
    Is there another world option? (Asking for a friend)
    (A fascinating story that I think might be true... but all discussion on that thread, please )


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    Default Re: Is anyone else considering moving to another country to somewhere freer of covid measures?

    Quote Posted by Mark/Rahkyt (here)
    I hear good things about Panama. I have a good friend and Ex-Patriot who has lived there now a few years. She started in Costs Rica for a year of so but found Panama more to her liking. Knowing her and myself, Iím pretty sure we share many of the same considerations.

    When I left the states and moved to Canada in 2010, I wasnít planning on coming back. I was ďcalledĒ to return in early 2013. After all Iíve been through the past few years, Iím not feeling that call as strongly as I did anymore. Which might mean Iíve done what Iím supposed to do.

    We will see what happens next, but Central and South America are where Iím drawn to, rather than Africa, Europe or Asia.
    Hi Mark
    Panama has many advantages for expats. However regarding Covid, Panama has been and still is very restrictive. If you don't mind wearing masks and total or partial lock downs, Panama is OK. But if you do not like wearing masks etc, better check the actual Covid measures with your friend.
    One of the countries with less restrictive Covid measures in South America (maybe the country with the least restrictive Covid measures, at least in the Southern part) is Uruguay.

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