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    Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has no problems with the strike, so there we have it.
    Now the all important question begs, does this change any perceptions that the move is unacceptable?

    Pompeo is a neocon, so of course he likes war in the middle east. Don't forget, there were a lot of neocons in the Republican party until Obama co-opted the philosophy for the Dems. Now it's onward to WW3! Whoopee, we're all gonna die!

    In the 1960s, if you predicted that the Democrats would become the new face of the Nazi ideology, people would have thought you were on drugs. Now just look around. And get that mask over your nose!

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    Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has no problems with the strike, so there we have it.
    Now the all important question begs, does this change any perceptions that the move is unacceptable?

    Pompeo is a neocon, so of course he likes war in the middle east.
    Certainly he is. That's a reason I've been finding it curious he's generally held in such high regard. Had this strike happened under his watch, I suspect it would have likely been seen more as something that had to be done for the greater good, as opposed to deep state being back on the march to WW3.

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    Don't forget, there were a lot of neocons in the Republican party until Obama co-opted the philosophy for the Dems. Now it's onward to WW3! Whoopee, we're all gonna die!
    I don't think the dems have acquired any sort of monopoly on this philosophy, it's now just one of the rare areas where there is bipartisan agreement; others would be undying loyalty to high dollar donors and Wall Street elites.

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    Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has no problems with the strike, so there we have it.
    Now the all important question begs, does this change any perceptions that the move is unacceptable?

    Pompeo is a neocon, so of course he likes war in the middle east.
    Certainly he is. That's a reason I've been finding it curious he's generally held in such high regard. Had this strike happened under his watch, I suspect it would have likely been seen more as something that had to be done for the greater good, as opposed to deep state being back on the march to WW3.

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    Don't forget, there were a lot of neocons in the Republican party until Obama co-opted the philosophy for the Dems. Now it's onward to WW3! Whoopee, we're all gonna die!
    I don't think the dems have acquired any sort of monopoly on this philosophy, it's now just one of the rare areas where there is bipartisan agreement; others would be undying loyalty to high dollar donors and Wall Street elites.
    The pro-China technocrats in Silicon Valley backed the Democrat party, and most Democrats are not aware they are now supporting fascism. It's been a gradual shift to fascism from the time the Clintons allied the party with the deep state, and Obama started charging journalists with treason. Ironically, the once-captive Republican party is now, since Trump, less aligned with the deep state. Throwing their weight behind the Dems, the deep state lost the Republican Party they used to own.

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    Ok Gracie, i get it. I always tell people,

    I wasn't there
    Sabre rattling and actual strikes unite both parties, deep state, overt state and most of mainstream media. You want to know what's wrong with America, consider being someone living somewhere in the Middle East and having to fear attacks on your country based on propaganda and completely random nonsense.

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    The pro-China technocrats in Silicon Valley backed the Democrat party, and most Democrats are not aware they are now supporting fascism. It's been a gradual shift to fascism from the time the Clintons allied the party with the deep state, and Obama started charging journalists with treason. Ironically, the once-captive Republican party is now, since Trump, less aligned with the deep state. Throwing their weight behind the Dems, the deep state lost the Republican Party they used to own. Tomkat

    The pro-China technocrats? They're pro-money. It's value and ideology free--though their is a strong element of religion there--the worship of money. Fascism is rooted in Nationalism, so no to Clinton being a fascist. He was the prototypical neo-liberal globalist--bad enough.

    The "deep state" was never completely aligned with Dems. If it was the case, Trump would never have been elected. The Deep State isn't monolithic. It is a number of clandestine agencies who owe their allegiance to banking (East Coast) military (oil) and Wall Street.

    You really have to get off mainstream media and social media and start to read or watch business media. Follow the money and click your heels three times, Dorothy, and it will take you right out of OZ.

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    Default Re: Biden takes first military action with strike on Iran-backed militias

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    It's been a gradual shift to fascism from the time the Clintons allied the party with the deep state, and Obama started charging journalists with treason.
    Sure, the Clintons are as guilty as they come. Biden, Obama, swamp creatures all. Now if we expand hanging the Deep State noose around people's necks concerning not just callous air strikes, but their relationships with journalists as well, is it really just the dems looking to muzzle free speech?

    Here's our buddy again. It's already an oldie but goodie classic for the ages, and his boss did zero to pull back on the long leash he was given:

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    Why does Washington Post hate Trump so much? Is it for all the stated reasons? Are the reporters and editorialists sincere? (probably to a point). But hey, look over here. Bezos owns the Post and look at what was at stake for this sack of ****.

    https://www.techradar.com/news/penta...and-start-over

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    Oh Pompao. What a bloviating lying windbag.

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    The pro-China technocrats in Silicon Valley backed the Democrat party, and most Democrats are not aware they are now supporting fascism. It's been a gradual shift to fascism from the time the Clintons allied the party with the deep state, and Obama started charging journalists with treason. Ironically, the once-captive Republican party is now, since Trump, less aligned with the deep state. Throwing their weight behind the Dems, the deep state lost the Republican Party they used to own. Tomkat

    The pro-China technocrats? They're pro-money. It's value and ideology free--though their is a strong element of religion there--the worship of money. Fascism is rooted in Nationalism, so no to Clinton being a fascist. He was the prototypical neo-liberal globalist--bad enough.

    The "deep state" was never completely aligned with Dems. If it was the case, Trump would never have been elected. The Deep State isn't monolithic. It is a number of clandestine agencies who owe their allegiance to banking (East Coast) military (oil) and Wall Stree
    You're not keeping up. Fascism has been international since the days of Caroll Quigley (Clinton's mentor, who wrote Tragedy & Hope in the 1960s). That's why it tag teams with communism so often.

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    Not keeping up. Too funny. Fascism has been a concern since it moved its franchise to the U.S from Germany, largely through Project Paper Clip,
    Fascism rides in on a wave of populism, becomes entrenched, the leader is revealed to be a tyrant after the fact. By then it's too late. But...small reward, people will be allowed to work.

    The Nazis were fascists, not socialists. Clinton was neither. He was a globalist and a jerk.

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    The Nazis were fascists, not socialists. Clinton was neither. He was a globalist and a jerk.
    Nazi is an acronym for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei - in English, National Socialist German Workers' Party.

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    Not keeping up. Too funny. Fascism has been a concern since it moved its franchise to the U.S from Germany, largely through Project Paper Clip,
    Fascism rides in on a wave of populism, becomes entrenched, the leader is revealed to be a tyrant after the fact. By then it's too late. But...small reward, people will be allowed to work.
    The Nazis were fascists, not socialists. Clinton was neither. He was a globalist and a jerk.
    Actually, the US backers of the Nazis, such as the Dulles brothers, the Bushes and Rockefellers, brought fascism to the US, and it never had a charismatic leader and it was sold as the middle way. Remember "Rockefeller Republicans" who were "kinder and gentler?" Bill Clinton came from Rockefeller's Arkansas and started out as a "blue dog" (conservative) "Democrat."

    I think they were trying to do Marx's dialectic: Capitalism and Communism resolving to the "Middle." Unfortunately, it never worked and we end up, today, moving back to feudalism. Property for the "stake holders," and UBI for the propertyless (serfs). That's why Biden advocates a $15 minimum wage and Social Security retirement the same. This further wipes out the major employers (small business, the bourgeoisie) and sets us up for a UBI of $15/hr. "You will own nothing but you will be happy."
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    Brigantia and Tomkat,

    I have no desire to get lost in the weeds of definition with you. What stands out here is the term, 'nationalist.' And nationalism can and should be a great thing. Who doesn't want a government that promotes its own people and always puts them first? Correct?

    Unfortunately the nationalist impulse can go hand in hand with ideas of superiority that can break down along ethnic lines, as it certainly did in Germany with its magical realism of a native Aryan type that was threatened and enslaved by Semites.

    That's all. Back to topic.

    There is some hysteria surrounding the issue of definitions, for sure.

    https://www.econlib.org/how-socialis...nal-socialism/

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    Default Re: Biden takes first military action with strike on Iran-backed militias

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    Not keeping up. Too funny. Fascism has been a concern since it moved its franchise to the U.S from Germany, largely through Project Paper Clip,
    Fascism rides in on a wave of populism, becomes entrenched, the leader is revealed to be a tyrant after the fact. By then it's too late. But...small reward, people will be allowed to work.
    The Nazis were fascists, not socialists. Clinton was neither. He was a globalist and a jerk.
    Actually, the US backers of the Nazis, such as the Dulles brothers, the Bushes and Rockefellers, brought fascism to the US, and it never had a charismatic leader and it was sold as the middle way. Remember "Rockefeller Republicans" who were "kinder and gentler?" Bill Clinton came from Rockefeller's Arkansas and started out as a "blue dog" (conservative) "Democrat."

    I think they were trying to do Marx's dialectic: Capitalism and Communism resolving to the "Middle." Unfortunately, it never worked and we end up, today, moving back to feudalism. Property for the "stake holders," and UBI for the propertyless (serfs). That's why Biden advocates a $15 minimum wage and Social Security retirement the same. This further wipes out the major employers (small business, the bourgeoisie) and sets us up for a UBI of $15/hr. "You will own nothing but you will be happy."
    It is absolutely useless to view the current cluster f*** as anything but generations of elites arranging the world around their own selfish desires. As well as political realities you have to also feature in automation and consider that some of the elites are actually kind of concerned, for selfish reasons.

    It serves no purpose for them to have people starving to death. "You will own nothing and be happy," understood in black and white terms seems really awful, but some of these types maybe deduced that the future will be so bleak that just having enough to eat and a roof over your head, even if it is a government subsidized co-op of some sort, beats living under a bridge.

    You can criticize the Reset along typical screaming points of the alternative media, or dismiss concerns about it entirely, like mainstream media, but it's a good idea to examine the real practical concerns of some of the elite here. Some of them have a conscience. Hard to believe if you are highly politically doctrinaire, along the lines of the current zeitgeist, but it is the case. They are not all, right down to the individual, psychopathic and soulless. That doesn't make sense on any level.

    Same with the military and defense contractors, to a point. It is all about the money on a systemic level, but some who rise to levels of prominence in the military do have souls and don't like what their own country gets up to overseas.

    It's probably wise not to be too much of an absolutist. It can devolve into a witchhunt, like the Metoo movement, that sees all men as 'the enemy' and guilty until proven innocent.

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    It's probably wise not to be too much of an absolutist. It can devolve into a witchhunt, like the Metoo movement, that sees all men as 'the enemy' and guilty until proven innocent.
    That's good medicine.

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    Not keeping up. Too funny. Fascism has been a concern since it moved its franchise to the U.S from Germany, largely through Project Paper Clip,
    Fascism rides in on a wave of populism, becomes entrenched, the leader is revealed to be a tyrant after the fact. By then it's too late. But...small reward, people will be allowed to work.
    The Nazis were fascists, not socialists. Clinton was neither. He was a globalist and a jerk.
    Actually, the US backers of the Nazis, such as the Dulles brothers, the Bushes and Rockefellers, brought fascism to the US, and it never had a charismatic leader and it was sold as the middle way. Remember "Rockefeller Republicans" who were "kinder and gentler?" Bill Clinton came from Rockefeller's Arkansas and started out as a "blue dog" (conservative) "Democrat."

    I think they were trying to do Marx's dialectic: Capitalism and Communism resolving to the "Middle." Unfortunately, it never worked and we end up, today, moving back to feudalism. Property for the "stake holders," and UBI for the propertyless (serfs). That's why Biden advocates a $15 minimum wage and Social Security retirement the same. This further wipes out the major employers (small business, the bourgeoisie) and sets us up for a UBI of $15/hr. "You will own nothing but you will be happy."
    It is absolutely useless to view the current cluster f*** as anything but generations of elites arranging the world around their own selfish desires. As well as political realities you have to also feature in automation and consider that some of the elites are actually kind of concerned, for selfish reasons.

    It serves no purpose for them to have people starving to death. "You will own nothing and be happy," understood in black and white terms seems really awful, but some of these types maybe deduced that the future will be so bleak that just having enough to eat and a roof over your head, even if it is a government subsidized co-op of some sort, beats living under a bridge.

    You can criticize the Reset along typical screaming points of the alternative media, or dismiss concerns about it entirely, like mainstream media, but it's a good idea to examine the real practical concerns of some of the elite here. Some of them have a conscience. Hard to believe if you are highly politically doctrinaire, along the lines of the current zeitgeist, but it is the case. They are not all, right down to the individual, psychopathic and soulless. That doesn't make sense on any level.

    Same with the military and defense contractors, to a point. It is all about the money on a systemic level, but some who rise to levels of prominence in the military do have souls and don't like what their own country gets up to overseas.

    It's probably wise not to be too much of an absolutist. It can devolve into a witchhunt, like the Metoo movement, that sees all men as 'the enemy' and guilty until proven innocent.
    I do believe, after listening to countless testimony, that the top-top elite are Satanists, paedophiles and traffickers of every stripe with a "bad is good" morality. I just listened to Sean Stone interview a Belgian woman who has had success in rehabilitating some of these lower rung paedophiles (who are probably not psychopaths since they were rehabilitated):
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/bs2n8pxaan5T/
    She mentions how the Mother of Darkness castle (where George Bush Sr. initiated his daughter) is expunged from Google Earth.

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    Don't you think that at the end of the day, the very very top elite will turn out to be...from another world?
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    Don't you think that at the end of the day, the very very top elite will turn out to be...from another world?
    Well, their souls may have been displaced by alien souls. Malachi Martin called it "perfectly possessed," impervious to exorcism. He also theorized that our universe is built on top of an ancient, destroyed universe, where a lot of evil comes from.

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    Don't you think that at the end of the day, the very very top elite will turn out to be...from another world?
    Yes. PA member Wes Penre called them the AIF (Alien Invader Force), a relatively small group of multiple races.

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    Brigantia and Tomkat,

    I have no desire to get lost in the weeds of definition with you. What stands out here is the term, 'nationalist.' And nationalism can and should be a great thing. Who doesn't want a government that promotes its own people and always puts them first? Correct?
    No, me neither; it's just that 'fascism' gets tied to 'extreme right-wing' these days and it's not that clear-cut. Socialism has had a significant influence in politics here in Europe since the war, and so we know the difference between that and communism plus other political tags, a distinction lost in some other parts of the world.

    I would point out that ALL countries in Europe - and probably elsewhere in the world - used to be nationalist until recently, and I believe that this change has arisen through social engineering. Many Mediterranean countries still have a strong sense of national identity. Britain's Labour party resisted immigration from the West Indies in the 1950s as they said it would take away jobs, but the Conservatives wanted cheap labour; now their positions are reversed. In my youth everyone around me had a pride in being British - how that has changed over the years.

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    No, me neither; it's just that 'fascism' gets tied to 'extreme right-wing' these days and it's not that clear-cut.
    I have to agree there, been thinking about that a lot lately for some reason. As far as the definition goes:

    Quote A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
    If one takes out the Race thing it starts looking a lot like our New Normal for some reason, kinda like a Democratic Fascism with the illusion of free elections being actually honest.

    Ahh well.

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