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    Default What Happens After You Die And Before You Reincarnate - Between Lives

    7000 Souls Recall Their ‘Life’ Between Lives During Regression Hypnosis, The Similarities Are Astounding

    Over 7000 people/souls share their experience, through regression hypnosis, as to what happened after they died and before they reincarnated.



    Certified Master Hypnotherapist Michael Newton developed a technique to regress his clients back in time to recall memories from their past lives. During this process he stumbled upon a discovery of enormous proportions. He was able to bring the souls back to the place where they go before their next life — a life between lives. Out of 7,000 regressions, a large majority had eerily similar recollections of a place that many of them called “home.”

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Newton’s work was that it didn’t matter who he was working with or what their previously held beliefs were in regards to the concept of “a soul” or reincarnation–in fact, many didn’t believe in these concepts at all. After coming out of a session, many of these people were changed forever. They were able to recount some of their past lives and feel and clearly see the relationship those previous lives had to their current life.

    The Life Between Lives

    In the world of hypnotherapy, past-life regression is almost common, but what’s unique about Newton’s work is his ability to get his subjects to recall memories from being in the womb, and then from before that point as well, to the place between each life. This was a place where, often, all of the soul family was waiting and welcoming with open arms. Many of the subjects were often surprised to see who was there as some of these people had provided a challenging experience for them in their previous lives.

    According to Newton, the hypnotic responses from his subjects in regards to the afterlife provided credible information because of the consistency in their reports. Often the subjects would even use the same words and graphic depictions of where they were and what they were seeing. Newton had no reason to feel that anyone had a motive to fake their stories, and treated each case as if he was hearing the information for the first time. In other words, he was not suggesting words or ideas to them, but rather giving them the freedom to express these lives on their own. The similarities between the subjects was quite astounding.

    Some of these similarities included
    • People’s memories of the initial activities of the soul just after final death on earth parallel the recollections of people returning from a near-death experience (NDE).
    • Souls are generally anxious to move away from the earth after death, and in many cases may stay a few days for their funeral.
    • Most souls initially pass through a tunnel towards the light of heaven.
    • The appearances of physical structures or other familiarities from Earth on the entry of the soul into heaven are intended to ease their transition.
    • Souls have the capability of projecting former life forms in communication with other souls.
    • Immediately after their death on earth, souls are met initially in heaven by their spirit guides or someone with whom they were close in their previous life. They meet others that were important to them previously.
    • Spirit guides continue their protective role in heaven.
    • Communication in heaven is done through telepathy.
    • A private form of consciousness between spirits exists through touch.
    • Ghosts are spirits who have chosen to remain within the earth plane, generally with a high degree of discontent. They can be dealt with by various means, such as exorcism, to get them to stop interfering with human beings.
    • Souls who were unable to turn aside a human impulse to harm others will go into seclusion upon entering the spirit world and remain for quite a while. The following reincarnation may be as a victim in a karmic cycle of justice.
    • An arriving soul can enter a place of healing as part of the restoration of the soul after a lifetime on earth.
    • A life review is conducted, first with spirit guides and later with a Council of Elders.
    • Souls travel to their initial destination in heaven through a large staging area.
    • Souls proceed to their cluster, consisting of small groups of soul energy that appear like a cluster of transparent bubbles or translucent bulbs. They contain entities who often shared past lives with the arriving spirit.
    • Group placement is determined by soul level.
    • Secondary groups have some contact with a primary group.
    • Opportunity for socialization and travel exist for souls living in their group.
    • Once a soul group is formed no new members are added.
    • Souls are grouped with others of similar characteristics.
    • At higher levels of soul evolution more independence takes place from group activities.
    • Spirit lights demonstrate color that correlates with a soul’s state of spiritual evolution.
    • The spirit world resembles one great schoolhouse with a multitude of classrooms under the direction of teacher-souls who monitor progress.
    • All souls have a personal guide who may be with them for thousands of years and many lives.
    • Junior guides are often assigned as well, later in the development of a soul.
    • Guides can appear as humans as well as spirits.
    • Most souls in the world today are in an early stage of development.
    • Spirits can experience two lives on earth at the same time.
    • A dormant part of our soul remains in heaven during incarnations.
    • Souls learn the techniques of the creation of physical items by thought, starting with simple assignments.
    • Souls incarnate on worlds other than the Earth.
    • The evolution of souls can continue way beyond the level where incarnation takes place.
    • Souls are reincarnating more frequently in recent centuries, and today would have roughly two lives during the past century.
    • Souls are not required to reincarnate but considerable pressure is brought to bear by spirit guides when the time is considered right.
    • Souls go to a place of life selection in order to examine alternative lives to lead.
    • There is a tendency for spirits to reincarnate in the same geographical area they were in during past lives.
    • The effort required to overcome a physical disability accelerates spiritual evolution.
    • Souls learn prior to a new incarnation to recognize future earthly signs from other souls they may encounter on earth with whom they have been close in the spirit world.
    • Souls leave heaven to enter the body of an infant through a tunnel.
    • The physical shock of birth is greater than that of death.
    • Souls can arrive in the infant’s body anytime before, during or slightly after the moment of birth.
    Again, not only is this level of similarity and detail fascinating, but many of the thousands of people who were put under this hypnosis had no previous belief of reincarnation, the soul, or source consciousness. Their experiences here changed their minds.

    In one instance a woman who had always faced challenges with her father in her current life saw that his soul had actually inhabited the body of the man who was the one who killed her in a past life. She was able to see how the members of the soul family aren’t always who you might expect. Some people who have caused us the most grief may have been doing so for our soul’s best interest, in order to help us grow.

    For some of us, this work may resonate on a deep level. I know for myself while watching a documentary on this subject called, Flipside: A Journey Into The Afterlife, and hearing the people recount their previous lives or the place that was often described as “home,” no part of me doubted anything they were saying for even a second. This information resonated to the very core of my being and just happens to go along quite nicely with my previously held beliefs in terms of reincarnation and the afterlife. Of course, we can never know for sure, but the topic of past lives and life after death is truly fascinating and can be fun to explore. I highly recommend the book on this subject, Journey Of Souls: Case Studies Of Life Between Lives by Michael Newton himself. It goes into much more depth and provides transcripts of actual sessions with the hypnotized subjects.

    What do you think happens when we die?

    Source: https://www.collective-evolution.com...BdF05EY1v8OsIc
    Artlcle by Alana Ketler - writer for Collective Evolution

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    Default Re: What Happens After You Die And Before You Reincarnate - Between Lives

    The follow-up book by Newton to Journey of Souls, Destiny of Souls, is also rivetting on this subject.

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    A short while after my son's mother, my ex-wife, passed on I asked him where she was at.

    He said she was sent to a training for those people who had addictions. That makes sense as that is why she passed away some 10 years ago, even as the time we had spent with her shortly before, had quickly improved her health, until we left to come back here. Many lessons there for me, yet a calmness and deeper communication with her for my son, one that continues to this day.

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    rgray222

    this is my favorite subject today. I study NDE , OBE and soul journey continually. It all speaks to me as the most credible of revelation regarding the so called afterlife .

    thanks

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    Quote Posted by Hym (here)
    A short while after my son's mother, my ex-wife, passed on I asked him where she was at.

    He said she was sent to a training for those people who had addictions. That makes sense as that is why she passed away some 10 years ago, even as the time we had spent with her shortly before, had quickly improved her health, until we left to come back here. Many lessons there for me, yet a calmness and deeper communication with her for my son, one that continues to this day.

    That's very interesting Hym. Thanks for sharing that.

    It reminded me of what my friend Jim told me once, after his close friend had committed suicide. He said he had a lucid dream a few weeks later, where this deceased friend had come to visit him. And the friend told Jim that he was assigned to a group of people - all suicides - whose job it was to go out into the world and prevent disasters. It wasn't to defuse bombs or anything like that; he gave Jim an example but I've sort of forgotten. I think the group had prevented a structure from caving in on some people or something of that nature.

    Anyway, it all rang very true to me.

    Anyone know what Newton says about fate vs free will?
    Last edited by Mike; 9th March 2021 at 06:17.

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    This is very interesting subject, I had some experience on it long ago, nowadays I do not know if I believe it anymore, but I did for a long time..

    I went through regression hypnosis when I was about 20 something years old, and for my surprise I learned who I was in my previously life and also that time it explained why I had such a pain in my belly, at least that was a reasonable explanation.

    I had an uncle that was murdered (stabbed in his belly and back) by one of his employee when trying to protect my granpa (granpa was the target), the time of the event I was not born yet, but of course I learned about the story from my parents, I born after almost 10 years of his death and everybody in my family said the same thing, I was exactly like my uncle, in physical appearance and in spirit and it wasn't the first time someone said that to me, my family specially my father was into spiritualism, they believed in reincarnation and one medium at some point said that, I was his reincarnation, that time we didn't give much attention after all I was a young boy, but years later I went all by myself into regression hypnosis process to learn things about me and mostly about my past and for my surprise this damn thing came up again, the person doing the regression didn't know anything about my family history, he was an strange and that made me scratch my head once again.

    Since then I had read just a lot of things related into reincarnation and every doctrine, religion, mediums, etc.. have a different idea of it, what bugs me the most is that in Buddhism for example, it is said it takes about 49 days to the spirit reincarnate, during a period of 7 weeks process.. others mediums says it can take as long as it is necessary.. there is no agreement in between them.

    I myself didn't remember anything been murdered in my previous life, in the regression session I can remember was some sort of conflict I was in, but images were blurred, there was no clear definition of what it was and where or in what time it happened.. for me the information is not clear enough to take it as granted.. then I still wondering what it is all about.

    I went to many doctors as a kid in order to know what was that huge pain in my belly, doctors had no idea what the problem was, my health was in perfect condition. Many years later I had the same thing in my back, the same feeling of been stabbed and I had never been stabbed in this life. How do I know how it feels? Last time my wife carried to the hospital, because I couldn't move or breath very well, we did tomography (full body scan) and once again, nothing, no explanation for my pain, not even a teared muscle.

    I guess I have to live with that, whatever it is.
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    I think we all judge ourselves, and go from there

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    I am also fascinated by this subject. Reading Newton's work what struck me most were not only the uncanny similarities in the accounts but also how structured the afterlife was. The leads me to believe that the reincarnation mechanism is part of the same trap/illusion we are currently in. There is lots of info on how to escape the afterlife trap out there.
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    Quote Posted by George (here)
    I am also fascinated by this subject. Reading Newton's work what struck me most were not only the uncanny similarities in the accounts but also how structured the afterlife was. The leads me to believe that the reincarnation mechanism is part of the same trap/illusion we are currently in. There is lots of info on how to escape the afterlife trap out there.
    That's what I was wondering about reading some of the accounts above. Are we making informed decisions to come here for our growth or is this a trap?

    I found the Wes Penre site via Avalon:

    https://wespenre.com/contents-of-the...l-of-learning/

    and I think Wes has posted here also.

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    It is indeed a fascinating subject. I have read - long time ago - Newton's books.
    Also, while I do remember some past life experiences (no regression though), I have some "thoughts" by what is "the normal", after death.

    George and Journeyman make very valid points.
    Trap or not? (the "light and the tunnel" I mean).
    Personally, I am still "debating" that with myself.

    I did have one NDE, where I almost died. I did see no tunnel, but after seeing myself from "the back" (about 3 meters) and also seeing the silver cord, the next scene was like "floating on clouds". Quite nice and interesting.

    Then, the next scene was where I was in a nice garden and some being/entity told me I had a choice to leave and go on to another life or to stay and continue that life where I was in. I was 18 at the time; now I am 63 (and I am obviously still here).

    Interestingly, I was looking at the scene from "outside". Meaning, I saw "myself (as a person(ality)?) and the entity (that looked like an old wise man with long hairs and beard, tall, slender and like floating in the air); I know that some authors consider this entity - possibly - the/a demiurge. Which would indeed mean that it is a kind of "trap". But it may be something else as well. I felt no negativity, nor positivity emanating from "him/it". Very neutral, non-emotional, sort of "matter-of-fact-like" was what it/he said.

    So, why is it that some see tunnel+light and others (not a whole lot it seems), skip that and have a different experience, during NDE's?

    The NDE did not change me thàt much, I had read "Life after Life" by R. Moody just the year before. I found it special to have a personal experience, related to what he wrote about. However, I felt after the NDE like "more of me" had come into the physical body (no doubt because I was going towards a pretty "tough" life and with the Energy I had/was before the NDE, I would never have survived all what was yet to follow, in those 45 years so far).

    Thanks for bringing this subject up! It is worthwhile exploring it.

    For those that question the validity of the BLA (as Wes Penre calls it) and the tunnelexperience, there is this website, mentioned elsewhere on PA as well: www.trickedbythelight.com It gives another perspective.

    What's the "truth"? Or are different situations possible depending on the soul/person in question?

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    sorry, i dont know how to highlight someones previous quote, lol

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    I am also fascinated by this subjectReading Newton's work what struck me most were not only the uncanny similarities in the accounts but also how structured the afterlife was. The leads me to believe that the reincarnation mechanism is part of the same trap/illusion we are currently in. There is lots of info on how to escape the afterlife trap out there.
    That'
    s what I was wondering about reading some of the accounts aboveAre we making informed decisions to come here for our growth or is this a trap
    My feeling is its not a trap if its bliss. What is it that makes life on earth a trap? Loss pain and lack of love. Why is this life hard here on earth? Because its temporary, we build attachments to loved ones, joys and shared happiness. What makes this life tragic is these are either torn from us, or eventually must end. Loved ones die, sickness and suffering and old age are inevitable for most.

    So if an afterlife, as many have described is an awareness of these loved ones, these attachments and so on, but without the fear and pain of the loss of them, then why would it be called a trap? And what would be the opposite of that trap?

    Is there any way of conceiving a knowing, without this knowing being based on our present reality? Could I be out in the universe unattached to mother father son , daughter loved ones and have happiness? Why would one feel or perceive a peace and tranquility from this? Our very definitions have been created within this earth bound reality .

    I would need to know what an alternative to the trap would be?

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    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    This is very interesting subject, I had some experience on it long ago, nowadays I do not know if I believe it anymore, but I did for a long time..

    I went through regression hypnosis when I was about 20 something years old, and for my surprise I learned who I was in my previously life and also that time it explained why I had such a pain in my belly, at least that was a reasonable explanation.

    I had an uncle that was murdered (stabbed in his belly and back) by one of his employee when trying to protect my granpa (granpa was the target), the time of the event I was not born yet, but of course I learned about the story from my parents, I born after almost 10 years of his death and everybody in my family said the same thing, I was exactly like my uncle, in physical appearance and in spirit and it wasn't the first time someone said that to me, my family specially my father was into spiritualism, they believed in reincarnation and one medium at some point said that, I was his reincarnation, that time we didn't give much attention after all I was a young boy, but years later I went all by myself into regression hypnosis process to learn things about me and mostly about my past and for my surprise this damn thing came up again, the person doing the regression didn't know anything about my family history, he was an strange and that made me scratch my head once again.

    Since then I had read just a lot of things related into reincarnation and every doctrine, religion, mediums, etc.. have a different idea of it, what bugs me the most is that in Buddhism for example, it is said it takes about 49 days to the spirit reincarnate, during a period of 7 weeks process.. others mediums says it can take as long as it is necessary.. there is no agreement in between them.

    I myself didn't remember anything been murdered in my previous life, in the regression session I can remember was some sort of conflict I was in, but images were blurred, there was no clear definition of what it was and where or in what time it happened.. for me the information is not clear enough to take it as granted.. then I still wondering what it is all about.

    I went to many doctors as a kid in order to know what was that huge pain in my belly, doctors had no idea what the problem was, my health was in perfect condition. Many years later I had the same thing in my back, the same feeling of been stabbed and I had never been stabbed in this life. How do I know how it feels? Last time my wife carried to the hospital, because I couldn't move or breath very well, we did tomography (full body scan) and once again, nothing, no explanation for my pain, not even a teared muscle.

    I guess I have to live with that, whatever it is.
    You should try hypnotic regression.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    A lot of people like Seth and Cayce talk about people spending 50 years or more between incarnations. But my sources say it's about 6 years on average.

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    Fascinating stuff. I have always been drawn to this subject matter. I want to know more. As a child I remember spirit entities standing around my bed at night. I think they were guides and deceased family. At times in my adult life, right before sleep, I find myself traveling to a secret abyss where my soul frolics with other souls. We are balls of energized light. It’s intriguing but once I realize I am there my head starts to physically hurt so I let it go.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    This is very interesting subject, I had some experience on it long ago, nowadays I do not know if I believe it anymore, but I did for a long time..

    I went through regression hypnosis when I was about 20 something years old, and for my surprise I learned who I was in my previously life and also that time it explained why I had such a pain in my belly, at least that was a reasonable explanation.

    I had an uncle that was murdered (stabbed in his belly and back) by one of his employee when trying to protect my granpa (granpa was the target), the time of the event I was not born yet, but of course I learned about the story from my parents, I born after almost 10 years of his death and everybody in my family said the same thing, I was exactly like my uncle, in physical appearance and in spirit and it wasn't the first time someone said that to me, my family specially my father was into spiritualism, they believed in reincarnation and one medium at some point said that, I was his reincarnation, that time we didn't give much attention after all I was a young boy, but years later I went all by myself into regression hypnosis process to learn things about me and mostly about my past and for my surprise this damn thing came up again, the person doing the regression didn't know anything about my family history, he was an strange and that made me scratch my head once again.

    Since then I had read just a lot of things related into reincarnation and every doctrine, religion, mediums, etc.. have a different idea of it, what bugs me the most is that in Buddhism for example, it is said it takes about 49 days to the spirit reincarnate, during a period of 7 weeks process.. others mediums says it can take as long as it is necessary.. there is no agreement in between them.

    I myself didn't remember anything been murdered in my previous life, in the regression session I can remember was some sort of conflict I was in, but images were blurred, there was no clear definition of what it was and where or in what time it happened.. for me the information is not clear enough to take it as granted.. then I still wondering what it is all about.

    I went to many doctors as a kid in order to know what was that huge pain in my belly, doctors had no idea what the problem was, my health was in perfect condition. Many years later I had the same thing in my back, the same feeling of been stabbed and I had never been stabbed in this life. How do I know how it feels? Last time my wife carried to the hospital, because I couldn't move or breath very well, we did tomography (full body scan) and once again, nothing, no explanation for my pain, not even a teared muscle.

    I guess I have to live with that, whatever it is.
    You should try hypnotic regression.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    A lot of people like Seth and Cayce talk about people spending 50 years or more between incarnations. But my sources say it's about 6 years on average.
    Thanks TomKat
    The 6 years period would fits in my time frame since uncle's death and my birth.
    Is this one you are referring to?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Material
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    It would be interesting to see if those reports change as of recently.
    Jaquline Hobbs aka Oracle Girl says that the 'death space' has merged with the space that we are in. ie. they are no longer separate spaces.
    the 'death space' , part of the 'slave self' system construct, where the individuated spark of infinity is recycled into the incarnation cycle....
    according to her, if you drop the body now you are not going anywhere, you spend time in a new 'patition' and you will eventually re-apear here.
    I know.. sounds kind of like the old system... she also says as the frequency of the earth goes up, all sorts of people will just show up here.. cnat wait for that to happen...
    she says, if you die as a result of the injection regime, you wont be able to stay here and end up in a different low frequency setup elsewhere....

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    Two places where I have heard similar explanations about what happens in between lives:
    1. The "Convoluted Universe" books by Delores Cannon. There are five of them in the information is spread throughout.





    2. The moved "Defending Your Life" with Albert Brooks. Brooks wrote the script and I think some of it may be been inspired by the books of Shirley MacLaine. (MacLaine had a cameo appearance in the movie).

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    I also read Newton's books years ago. Even tried a Regression by a therapist trained by his institute (they are all around the world) but unfortunately I was not hypnotisable that day or in general.

    Also find Dolores Newton's books fascinating as she somehow enlarges upon the concept with 'aliens'. Something which is strangely missing from Newton's work.

    I do not believe in a trap although it is something like a 'restricted' school area. You can imv 'escape' or just 'leave' it if you stay connected to your Higher Self. (See William Buhlman's work for this and his mantra of "Higher Self Now"). Then you really will go "higher" or "home" (which imho is the HS).

    We know from Bob Monroe's (and some other OBE expert) books: There are BSTs / Belief System territories that might be leading from the false light pathway to some degree. William Buhlman calls them 'hollow heavens'. And there are astral hells that people also can end up for a while. They are like purgatory for some. But there are always souls working as guides to 'retrieve' them.

    You can even work as retriever helper together with the nonphysical guides still incarnated as an astral projector (I did for a while and had started a book on it even). More on retrievals should be discussed in the appropriate Astral Projection forum here.

    I believe also that for many of us here it will not happen that we end in a trap (BST or whichever darker 'realm') since we all go to the 'state'/'place' where we 'vibrate' on and this is much higher for us. It is a kind of 'arrogance' that we more 'awake' people should allow ourselves.

    If we land after our immediate passing in the "Park" or "Focus 27" as Monroe called it, which is the highest 'area' were we can go in 'astral' human form, then we should bear in mind that this is still just a waystation to either go 'down again' as human (reincarnate) or depart to other tasks or higher levels or reunite with our Higher Self.

    Is there a nonphysical control system / Matrix and thus a prison system? Well, maybe it is. Is it maintained by aliens or demons or whatever entities? Maybe. But in my philosophy it is like Earth life. You are also already in a physical control system (maybe set up by the nonphysical ones, yeah). You are also here to learn and grow and you do not grow by incarnating into paradise worlds all the time. So that is why I believe it is a mixture of both aspects. It is a kind of 'prison' but you knew it before you came here for your first life to live as human. Maybe you got trapped in a karmic cycle or just are her because you happen to like it. How do we know? We do not have our Higher Self consciousness with us and don't know the greater plan (the 'different overview' as Monroe called it). Experiencing the control(led) system might still be the plan though despite all the 'evil rulers' (the physical and nonphysical ones).

    Btw, another movie that dealt with this concept of a 'human' waystation before you reincarnate but also shows that not all do and some went to other/higher places is Nosso Lar (Our Home). Definitely a recommendable movie:

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    Alan Kardec's spiritism (1857) is +90% what is explained on the first post.
    I've never ever connected so much with anything like I did with the book of spirits. Highly recommend it.
    It also gives an interesting justification to all of it. Putting the soul on a path of a moral learning process, where different lives give us different teachings and improve our spirits as a meaning of existence.
    Then, with the book of mediums it expands on the different ways of interacting with this paralel world, and how ritualism isn't that important at all, but the feeling and willfulness that is put into thoughts prayers and actions. Kardec contrasts with the methods of Newton cited here, yet the conclusion is preety much the same.

    Something curious imo, is that despite agreeing that past lifes had effects on our souls, Kardec never talks about regression methods themselves (not that I remember any at all), since it claims that we're supposed to learn from this life, as a consequence of the previous ones. I've personally never known about any regression hypnotist here, and at the same time im still debating with myself if i shouldn't in a spiritual way or if im just scared.

    Something that sticks preety nicely to this general concept of existance too, more in a material than a "explicitly" spiritual way, is stoicism and the writings of Marcus Aurelius. (which I'm reading from now and then and highly recommend too)

    On the other hand,
    Despite not being a drug consummer myself (never did, even cigarettes) I like investigating about drug effects, etc., specially when related to music. And I found out that the general stories coming from people who took DMT or salvia divinorum, (unlike psylocibine, LSD, etc) experience effects that are really really close in explaination to this spirit world: Fear of letting go of the material, Timeless dimension with entities that are familiar and greet them, usually having messages to them, etc.
    With this I don't promote or support any drug consumption in any way, but maybe it is one of the material "tools" that some souls may need to improve, or as a test of their Impulsiveness/greed for power, allowing them to visit the afterlife while still on earth.

    Amazing thread!!!
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    I don't subscribe to the "went to earth to grow"-meme as it is soooo utterly illogic.
    If you went here for that reason - then I am sure you found the worst option.
    How could one ever to expect to learn from ones mistakes or wrong-doings when he's forgot it all next times reincarnation comes around?
    No, this plane is just a play ground, entered either by purpose in order to have some tickling adventures or because someone convinced you. (or to help some)
    There is this fixed belief, that one has to undergo adversity in order to grow as a being.
    Why would an infinite powerful being need to grow?
    How about, he just wants to have fun and challenges and adventures?
    And I am sure there are other places with plenty of choices and combinations.
    In the end one has to decide, which place to go and which surroundings to create.
    "The greatest good you can do for another is not just share your riches, but to reveal to him his own."
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    Hi Michi/
    Im good with that as well. In the book , The application of impossible things,Natalie Sudman talks about that we are here to just experience.

    This is somewhat disconcerting to me because we will struggle with the killers and rapists idea as possibly not being a so called bad thing like we believe it is.

    Is it we ,who apply meaning to things? or is there actually good and bad in living and in our behavior?

    thoughts??

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