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    Default Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Just came across this video, where top vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche explains why the current vaccine rollout is a dangerous mistake from his scientific angle.

    Although his comments regarding the benefits and safety of the new jabs as such seem rather premature in my humble opinion, I found it very interesting to hear his explanation of how the broad protection by the innate immune system gets outcompeted by this too specific weapon, leaving the body vulnerable to any pathogen that differs from the one targeted by the vaccine.

    At 23:45 he even states that we do not even know exactly what the virus is.

    Last edited by Anna70; 10th March 2021 at 18:38. Reason: Accidentally wrote "vaccine" instead of "virus"

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Good find!
    Here are two pdf's, in English:

    https://www.deblauwetijger.com/wp-co...en-Bossche.pdf

    https://www.deblauwetijger.com/wp-co...-Bossche-2.pdf

    Also very interesting to read, here:

    https://dryburgh.com/geert-vanden-bo...nation-danger/

    A quote by the doctor:

    "Well, the answer is very easy. I mean, this is human behavior. If you’re having panic, we do something and we try to make ourselves believe that it is the right thing to do, until there is complete chaos and there is a complete disaster.

    And then people say, I mean politicians will probably say, we have been advised by the scientists, and scientists will maybe point to somebody else, but this is now a situation.

    I’m asking every single scientist to scrutinize, to look what I’m writing, to do the science and to study exactly the, I call these the immune pathogenesis of the disease. And because I like people to do their homework.

    And if the science is wrong, if I’m proven wrong, I will admit it, but I can tell you, I’m putting my career, my reputation at stake.

    I would not do this when I would not be 200% convinced. And it’s not about me, not about me at all. It’s about humanity. People don’t understand what is currently going on. And we have an obligation to explain this."
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 10th March 2021 at 18:43. Reason: edited the important transcript for a little more clarity

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    There are several reactions to his theories. Below just one (link provided). Exaggerates? tell that the people that died (or their family) in Manaus (Brasil).

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/03...sible-monster/

    "We await detailed scientific rebuttals of the various claims in the paper. But the current feeling among a number of sceptical scientists we are in touch with is that the paper greatly exaggerates the capacity of viral variants to evade the human immune system. Upon encountering a virus like SARS-CoV-2, a large repertoire of T-cell epitopes is produced which are capable of dealing with most variants.

    By Will Jones / 9 March 2021 • 00.58
    Vaccine Variants"

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Thank you for those links!!!

    Regarding the emergence of new variants, someone pointed out how it is interesting that these have come from the very countries where vaccine trials were/are being held.

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    It's an excellent interview. There are two different videos cited on the transcript page, one that's 39 minutes long (Brighteon) and another that's nearly a couple hours (Bitchute). The transcript is for the shorter one.

    What jumped right out at me here is that Geert Vanden Bossche explains really clearly how come the vaccine is so dangerous, because it weakens the immune system to anything else other than this specific one thing.

    But in a situation where there are many covid variants, that alone explains why there are SO many reports coming in almost daily of (e.g.) nursing homes where many came down with covid (and many died) almost immediately after being vaccinated. This is a very, very important thing he's pointing out here.

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Speculating what it would mean for the future if he is proven to be correct. Shielding for the vaccinated/gene therapy treated, who besides being extra vulnerable could be classed as potential asymptomatic carriers, while the great unvaxed regain freedom?

    It would be ironic, but obviously not funny in the slightest.

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Geert Vanden Bossche letter, here:

    PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OF INTERNATIONAL CONCERN
    Why mass vaccinaton amidst a pandemic creates an irrepressible monster

    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Many thanks to you all for all the (links to) documents! I have printed out many of them to read more thoroughly, and to share with the GP as well.

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Geert Vanden Bossche now has his own sub-folder in the Covid-19 Vaccines area of the library.

    Here's the other important interview he did on March 8th with Dan Astin-Gregory on the Pandemic Podcast that covers much of what he shared with Philip Macmillan:

    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Quote Posted by Johan (Keyholder) (here)
    There are several reactions to his theories. Below just one (link provided). Exaggerates? tell that the people that died (or their family) in Manaus (Brasil).

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/03...sible-monster/

    "We await detailed scientific rebuttals of the various claims in the paper. But the current feeling among a number of sceptical scientists we are in touch with is that the paper greatly exaggerates the capacity of viral variants to evade the human immune system. Upon encountering a virus like SARS-CoV-2, a large repertoire of T-cell epitopes is produced which are capable of dealing with most variants.

    By Will Jones / 9 March 2021 • 00.58
    Vaccine Variants"
    Brasil has one of the highest mortality rates in the world. But one should take into consideration that the combined epidemics of Zika, Chikungunya, Dengue and Sars-Cov-2 make for a very vulnerable population.

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    Quote Posted by Anna70 (here)
    Just came across this video, where top vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche explains why the current vaccine rollout is a dangerous mistake from his scientific angle.

    Although his comments regarding the benefits and safety of the new jabs as such seem rather premature in my humble opinion, I found it very interesting to hear his explanation of how the broad protection by the innate immune system gets outcompeted by this too specific weapon, leaving the body vulnerable to any pathogen that differs from the one targeted by the vaccine.

    At 23:45 he even states that we do not even know exactly what the virus is.

    Thank you Anna70. I am busy passing this interview on to others and it is having some effect on those that are more mainstream in their thinking. The whole thing appears to be a mess but who knows how things will work out in the end.

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    All interested in this thread. Im trying to put this discussion regarding Dr Geert in layman terms to share with friends and family.
    Would anyone like to add, edit and correct to my breakdown


    My interpretation ;  
    This accredited Doctor/ Virologist  is not anti vax.  The covid vaccinations we are presently using are specific to the covid virus it's designed for.  But that virus is shedding off and trying to survive even from vaccinated people, AND NEW VARIANTS are being created. These variants will be resistant to these present vaccines.  So the vaccines will no longer work, but the vaccinated people will still be shedding off a new variant virus.
    The further down side 
    The problem is these vaxx target specifically  C 19 . But they will step up front get in the way and suppress our own general non specific response fighters  for all other pathogens  The new variants created will now start to become perilous to younger people and children who could originally fight off the original C19 with their own natural non specific immune fighters.People who have been vaccinated will be left with a defenseless non specific immune worker system to fight off all other contaminants and diseases that are not C 19.So other diseases can step in and take hold much easierWe are playing with fire , and we don't really know what all this is. 

    I Have no answers except for myself which is, to do nothing and be fit and healthy

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    And add this to the mix/ verification of the warnings of the posts above. The Unz report
    https://outline.com/dCuErC

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    And add this to the mix/ verification of the warnings of the posts above. The Unz report
    https://outline.com/dCuErC
    I suggest you all read this article above. It was quite an eye opener. Things could be very real soon. It implies that 2020 was just the test run. And do read it here, at the original source, since the comments do give it contrast and more depth.
    Last edited by Metaphor; 12th March 2021 at 00:32. Reason: misspelling corrected
    "You can´t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending"
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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Quote Posted by Metaphor (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    And add this to the mix/ verification of the warnings of the posts above. The Unz report
    https://outline.com/dCuErC
    I suggest you all read this article above. It was quite an eye opener. Things could be very real soon. It implies that 2020 was just the test run. And do read it here, at the original source, since the comments do give it contrast and more depth.
    Absolutely! this is the next level...

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    This article I posted above is valuable. However, the title and the image poster are misleading and I do not think it will help to get this info out. I already know if i send it to my trump hating friends, it will be deleted on the spot

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Dr Vernon Coleman supports Geert vander Bossche's warning in his latest video on BrandNewTube.

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid...9dY1RcSNh.html

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    Quote Posted by Anna70 (here)
    Dr Vernon Coleman supports Geert vander Bossche's warning in his latest video on BrandNewTube.

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid...9dY1RcSNh.html
    Not everyone is on board with Bossche. I think we who are opposed with concerns over artificial immunity and its effect on our whole world were glad he might stop this roll out. :"Live to Fight Another Day". I did notice that he suggested we all be vaccinated. Mass vaccination with maybe a different one? Stop for a moment and maybe the world comes to sense?



    I think this may be for me evidence and more evidence that sincerely the noosphere (or whatever we should call it) is shattered. I keep saying that to myself then I still am surprised with how this is playing out

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    Default Re: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

    This supports Bossche....

    Quote Dr. Byram Bridle on COVID-19 Mass Vaccination Programs: “We Are Optimizing The Chance For A Variant To Emerge That Can Bypass All Of These Vaccines”
    March 15th, 2021


    New Zealand is particularly screwed:

    A country like New Zealand, which has isolated itself and may not have substantial, naturally acquired immunity, which is gonna be very broad and is relying on these vaccines, may be able to vaccinate their population.

    But if the rest of the world has these variants circulating, all those vaccinated individuals are gonna be susceptible to these variants that don’t care about that spike protein specific immunity anymore.

    And you may, as a population, have wanted much more broad immunity that’s conferred by natural natural acquisition of immunity, meaning you acquire the infection and clear it. So I’m very concerned about this.

    Via: Dryburgh.com:

    If you were to ask me as a scientist, how would I design an experiment that would maximise our chance of generating a highly immunio evasive variant of the SARS Coronavirus 2?

    My answer would be, essentially, the exact way we are rolling out these vaccines, precisely the way they’re rolling out these vaccines.



    The way we’re rolling this out, as I said, we are optimizing the chance for a variant to emerge that can bypass all of these vaccines.

    Research Credit: Jb
    Quote "My prediction, in the future, is that the history books ... will document this as the greatest mismanaged crisis of our time, unfortunately" Dr Byram Bridle
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