Men, ejaculating is the single biggest handicap you can give yourself in the game of life

[waxamillionpehhgasus]

Still on the fence regarding these concepts? Try watching this video as a beginner guide. It will tell you how your sexual habits may very well be DESTROYING your potential in terms spiritual ascension/harmony! (Though who am I to say - according to many posters here, it's unrealistic for me to have any spiritual sense whatsoever, due to the way I'm typing! I don't have any charisma, either, apparently. It's all in my head. Drat! )

Once you're through with the video, check out the materials in the first post to dive even further in! If you give it a try, and manage to properly transmute your sexual energy - your life will truly never be the same!

Or, if you're satisfied with the trajectory of your life, just keep masturbating and having casual sex to scratch that materialistic lower-body sexual addiction itch. The path you choose is really completely up to you!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sVggeyOckbQ

P.S. Would highly recommend all of Gigi Young's stuff, especially the Isis Rising series she did!

[Mashika]

You know, i understand why you don't want girls commenting on here, there's nothing to gain from listening to them, since you already have your mind set and you don't seem to find any value on other opinions, you "know what you need and where you want to be"

But hear me out for a bit, i know i lack the necessary parts to be considered a 'bro' lmao, but still going to post this

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It seems you are angry that no one, except maybe one person as you pointed out, wants to follow or drop everything to believe in what you said

So let me quote you a bit, because i think i know why some of that stuff you said is going out the window and flying away to never be seen or listened to again...

This is going to be veeeery long.. ashh... #whywhywhy

Fascinating replies! I work as a copywriter, so this post was in fact crafted with a very particular style of writing in mind, to appeal to a very specific audience.

People on Avalon doesn't need to be lead by the nose, and they know it and can see it, the way you wrote that and then admit you did it on purpose comes out as not very sincere, like in having ulterior motives right from before you posted.

People here are way smarter than to fall or follow a pop psychology article that has self aggrandizing comments all over, it just reads as an attempt at a mind job. Do you realize most people here have way lots more experience than us and already went through the entire process at least once before you even got this idea? You are preaching to the chore

I seem to have reached at least one person - which makes it completely worth it!

So you are preaching

Most have completely missed the point - I'm talking primarily about male ejaculation, not celibacy. According to some, apparently I've never been in a loving interpersonal relationship - which is QUITE the assumption to make. Are you able to glean that much information about a person's life due to the words and punctuation they use on a forum post? Does my style of writing indicate how I behave in real life, and how other people perceive me as I go about my day-to-day? Apparently, it does. Who knew?

You would be surprised but yes it does, it says a lot, more than you think you are letting other people know

Flawless assumptions. I must have NO charisma. Zero.

See? This has said so much, is such a small sentence and yet

Others have harped on certain words such as "ascended", assuming I was talking about spiritual ascension, when the rest of the post does not indicate that at all. To be completely upfront, in terms of energy levels and motivation compared to my male peers, I have certainly "ascended".

Guys that are above, don't think of it like this or are aware because it is already on their nature. They did not fabricate it or had to find ways to make it happen artificially, they just are, same as girls by the way, you just "are". I think you are pushing very hard for an image that is not you, because if you were accepting and happy with yourself, then why the need to work so hard to find an alternative around just "being you" ? See, once again your words say more than you thought they could say, in writing form. You need to escape from the person you were before

I feel as if I was completely clear in the first post - I was being blunt and borderline brash to get my point across. The point being: reckless male ejaculation = bad news. Keyword: reckless. It's a handicap. Full stop.

For you. The entire world doesn't revolve around your perception of what charisma and masculinity is. As far as i could care, i can 'smell' that you are not being honest about the charisma thing, because you make it such a point to make it a talking point, that it makes me think you are building an image around it, and not being honestly yourself

You're free to believe whatever you want, of course. Perhaps I'm just delusional. I've gone months and months without ejaculating and put in the work to transmute my sexual energy into other avenues simply because I'm delusional. Makes sense. Everyone is aware that a major topic in Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich is sexual energy transmutation, right? It's only one of the most popular self-help books of all times. And countless other highly-respected self-help materials talk about it, too! I'm not the first one to talk about this. Not by a long shot.

You are exposing a lot of resentment somehow

Others have gone so far as to bash me directly due to my style of writing, going so far as to call me bipolar and/or depressed (such as a member with the username "Open Minded Dude"). How "open minded"! Amazing.

Resentment because he said what he was thinking. And you can't deal with it. Why do you care so much what other people think if you are 'above most other males"?

A select few have read the post fully and replied with solid information regarding these topics, particularly in regards to the dangers of porn and the benefits of taoism. Respect. You guys are right on the money.

"Peccatum Originale" - Those are the chosen ones that can follow the leader into the unknown path of liberation from earthy sin and temptation

As I clearly mentioned in the first post, I don't expect everyone to get on board with celibacy or my overall lifestyle. I'm aware that it's extreme, and I don't think I'll be doing this for the rest of my life. But for now, considering what I see in my day-to-day, I firmly believe that the VAST majority of males are handicapping themselves due to what society has taught them about ejaculation - in particular, those under 40 years of age - and I won't beat around the bush regarding it!

But why do you get angry or bothered that other people did not care, it's your choice and your path, should just stop there, no need to preach about it

Lastly, male ejaculation is not a prerequisite to having a loving relationship with a member of the opposite sex. You can't love someone else because you, as a male, don't ejaculate? Please!

It's a personal choice, why does it bother you what other guys do? "Please!" -- "Why don't you understand that you need to stop because i said so!" that's how it comes through to other people i think

No matter what you've replied with, it's all good

Thing is, it is not, because later on you wrote another post with more resentment towards the people that called or pointed out a few of the things on your original post

my only intended audience was the group of men I was targeting! If you're a male, and you're happy masturbating and ejaculating all of the time, you do you.

But that's what people are already doing... Just being them, you are trying to impose your view and then complain they won't listen and change to become and follow your ideology

No harm done. For the rest of you who feel like you suffer from a handicap, anxiety, depression, awkwardness, lack of muscle development, lack of confidence, brain fog, you name it - check out the resources I linked in the original post and get to work. One single month of transmuting your sexual energy away from degeneracy will change how you see the world. Peace!

Now you are selling your ideas, and it's very visible in which way, there could be lots of reasons for all those things happening in a guys life, but somehow the remedy is to stop playing with yourself, there's no other way around it, that has to be it!

And here's your last post

Still on the fence regarding these concepts?

I thought you said "you be you", but you are insisting again that everyone has to make a choice and follow you on your own path, for some reason?

Try watching this video as a beginner guide. It will tell you how your sexual habits may very well be DESTROYING your potential in terms spiritual ascension/harmony!

Not even going to tell you all that is wrong with this religious touched statement. It speaks for itself (WHY ARE YOU YELLING!)

(Though who am I to say - according to many posters here, it's unrealistic for me to have any spiritual sense whatsoever, due to the way I'm typing! I don't have any charisma, either, apparently. It's all in my head. Drat! )

More resentment, it's painfully visible

Once you're through with the video, check out the materials in the first post to dive even further in! If you give it a try, and manage to properly transmute your sexual energy - your life will truly never be the same!

Please understand that most guys here are way beyond your own experiences in life at this point and you are trying to educate them when they are looking from way beyond. Have you stopped to think for a moment, since you already said you are not the first one thinking about this, that a lot of the guys here already went through that and possibly found something beyond and are perfectly happy and don't want to turn back 20/30 years in time to be in their mid 20s again just so you can have some followers on your religious based theory of purity and ascension?

Or, if you're satisfied with the trajectory of your life, just keep masturbating and having casual sex to scratch that materialistic lower-body sexual addiction itch. The path you choose is really completely up to you!

More conditioning lol, and yes you said that they should just do whatever they want several times, but that's not what you really want, it shows through the words dude

I know you don't care about my opinion since i'm not "the target" of this thread. But just think about it for a moment, if i can see these things, what do the guys over here can see that i can't?

You know, the writing style does have a lot to do, you did not come as charismatic, you came as arrogant and lacking on something that you were trying to replace or artificially reproduce, i can see and 'feel' it, and other people can too

It just doesn't come natural, and the best way to talk to people is just natural talk, not elaborated posts that attempt to do a mind job on people to 'filter' out some of them so that the ones that are failing/ill/in anxiety or any other weakened state that you previously carefully described allow themselves to be controlled by hope and faith so they find 'cure' of all the evils in your semi-religious no-earthly-sin proposal

Possibly, but i could not know for sure, is that you continually try to come on top of everyone else, just read your own words again, constantly pushing hard that you have some kind of higher living experience than other guys, because you said so and you think so. And then you expect them to somehow drop everything and follow you on this path you discovered not long ago, it sounds so odd, you just can't see it because it's coming from you, but from the outside...

You are trying to impose you way so hard, that you driving people away, no one will listen, trust me, i have done the same mistake before

Anyways, you probably hate me at this time and that's totally fine, wish you well and if you want to chat we could, or not. But if we do, please be natural, and drop that 'poor little people need to be told what they're missing" act.

Uom veram dirim da
Uom veram verom


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Masha

[Strat]

Chihuahuas are very confident when they are stuck inside with the house cats...

Wax, I'm putting in my application to be your unofficial older brother.

[Mashika]

Posted by Strat (here)
Chihuahuas are very confident when they are stuck inside with the house cats...

Wax, I'm putting in my application to be your (pseudo) older brother.

Well, if i may say, you do have natural charisma that could be transmitted, that i can say

[Hym]

Masha, You're awesome!

I DO super appreciate the insight of a woman, so apparently young, yet so wise and able to speak so fluently, so much to the point, to the heart of the matter in a language other than the one she grew up learning. Amazing!

I appreciate your calling out a narcissist with your insight of many lifetimes.

I really couldn't give a care about addressing aggressive and judgmental posts, but I do notice the real message of understanding creative energy being limited to the release of sperm. The creative energy of a male is not bound by the retention or release of an ejaculate. That is just the beginning and an external and limited view, likely bound by some other energy.

Others posted a wide variety of experiential insights and suggestions but not once do we see any understanding. The very odd thing about the judgmental and self-aggrandizing attitude is that some of us have lived, and are living, the life he has posted about, without all of the showboating.

It makes anyone wonder where all of that focus is going. I don't know, except that it clearly isn't being used to find the power of humility. Maybe the problem is that we didn't kiss ass. This forum is the wrong place to project that on so many who have come to share, grow, learn, and enjoy the company, with many challenges included amongst each other and welcomed.

How someone can't perceive the lives some of us here have lived and turn it into a cloaked, and pseudo-intellectual attack tells us all much more about the intent, the personal messaging, than the subject matter itself. I really don't give a F about someone so deaf, but then it's obvious that attitude is self-sustaining. Talking about mental masturbation and stroking your own ego would have been more to the point.

Yes, many of us have gone thru the thread's suggestions as life choices, without the preachy shyte. There are so many ways to get an idea, an energetic insight across other than all of that ego-filled crap. I agree, to be more accurate, I have lived and still live with those things so offensively, defensively, and aggressively stated. You can't sell to us what some of us already have.

Looking at such an inexperienced perception from one who has not done what was suggested for anywhere near the decades some of us have, I wonder if that preachy approach will serve the lessons of the soul. No matter, I'm not here to preach to a preacher, just call out the b.s.. Is there a definition of a dick bigger than an unchecked and immature ego, not yet integrated into living beyond the lower senses? And is there any bigger one than one whose bragging overwhelms the message?

When someone puts that out here, on this forum, it seems they are trying to set up a very judgmental series of posts, which is easy to see. You don't like it here, you're more than welcome to sell your vision elsewhere. I can sense the hatred in your 'better-than-others' posts. You want to get one up on the people and their insights on this forum? Then grow out of the ego you're stroking and live. You are welcome, like all of the rest of us mere immortals living mortal lives.

I'm putting a small bit of a long post I recently added from Bill's April Fools parody, edited to the extreme 3 or 4 times longer than my original post, where I referenced an obvious insight that many of us have here about the incongruity of threads like this one. Tho it was tangental to the funny April Fools thread Bill posted about going all woke and sjw, I spent a moment riffing about the content on this thread.

In this extremely long post I wrote, over a very long and busy day, I claimed to be a moderator moderating my own excesses, but one of the two subjects was on what I got from reading the interactions on this thread....


"(Fictitious Mod Note:

Okay now, Hymmy. That's quite enough of this over-editing stuff. There are a few threads here on Project Avalon that are full of over-editing. We suggest you satisfy the creative urge, one that seems to be your own personal demiurge, by frolicking on one of those.

And no, we don't mean the ejaculation preservation thread. We have left that to brew with the author's own rare, self sustaining, energetic, audio-free responses. In case you didn't notice it, many honest and heartfelt understandings of the issue were met with a boatload of 'I could give a F**Ks' on that thread.

Tho we here on the Crew know, by your responses, that you have a much more humane outlook on matters of the ego, We Do measure the quality of F**Ks, nurturing and destructive alike, and on this we are not neutral.

On that pertinent note.....
We all personally prefer Mike's 'Satan's Own' thread when we want to be slapped upside our ego's, but then....that's us. At the very least, "My balls is hot" BallZBub offers some condolences for the suffering.

Yes, that's us, the Mod Crew here. We may not be slim or super-duper healthy, we may even be bed sleeping bums, but We Too are Awesome, just in different ways that only insight, humility and balls, or ovaries, Not Age, can nurture.)"

From deep inside of the excessively long editing foray Hym put into Post #42:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1419601

Again, I am so appreciative that I can enjoy the insights of so many people like Mashika!!!!!

[onawah]

I agree that Gigi Young is a good source of spiritual information.
I lost track of the conversation of this thread a couple of pages back, but if the points that the OP has been trying to make about modern sexuality concur with what Gigi says in the video Tantra, Sex Magick and Sacred Sexuality, , then I would have to concur.

Posted by waxamillionpehhgasus (here)
Still on the fence regarding these concepts? Try watching this video as a beginner guide. It will tell you how your sexual habits may very well be DESTROYING your potential in terms spiritual ascension/harmony! (Though who am I to say - according to many posters here, it's unrealistic for me to have any spiritual sense whatsoever, due to the way I'm typing! I don't have any charisma, either, apparently. It's all in my head. Drat! )

Once you're through with the video, check out the materials in the first post to dive even further in! If you give it a try, and manage to properly transmute your sexual energy - your life will truly never be the same!

Or, if you're satisfied with the trajectory of your life, just keep masturbating and having casual sex to scratch that materialistic lower-body sexual addiction itch. The path you choose is really completely up to you!

P.S. Would highly recommend all of Gigi Young's stuff, especially the Isis Rising series she did!

[iota]

i've only read a couple of posts and don't have time, energy nor inclination to do more than that .. because this is kind of a "been there ... done that ... way over that" issue for me

BUT OMG the level of attack is both extraordinary and a lark!!

so ... here are my two cents worth

WAX is telling the truth people

like it or not

and obviously, you don't

the man is telling the truth

ABOUT the attraction and magnetism he developed and experienced

and can i just be blunt and say it?

that just because YOU HAVE NOT

and HAVE NEVER

and most likely will leave the planet without having had this experience

didn't automatically make it a LIE

WAX ... why did you tell them?

you know it is one of the things that people (for all their spirituality professed and real) STILL secretly yearn for

and in not having it? cannot conceive that anyone else would

and will HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

IF they had EVER experienced

or come even close to having this experience?

they would not be in such a state of disbelief about it .. and that is just a fact

right people?

for all the ooohs and ahhhs of manifesting and "abilities" the thing that has escaped them could not have conceivably been experienced by another

and i'm sorry guys ... the little that i read ... you all were harsh .. and you ganged up

and i get that he didn't (and i most likely am not) talking the way you want

but when are we going to grow up and realize that people do NOT HAVE TO talk the way that we would want

he was just sharing his truth

and it really, honestly WAS his "truth"

furthermore, the guy was (mistakenly) trying to "help" and share

that alone, should have given him "points" or at least a break of sorts

i WAS going to pipe in early but when Gracy started in immediately with her typical derision and goading of a member
(not going to bother to look it up, but i think she asked for video)

i rolled my eyes, KNOWING she didn't have a clue
had NEVER had the personal experience
and it was going to be BEYOND the scope
or desire of anyone wishing to remain sane
to convince her

and who cared anyway????

so here's the things he said that i KNEW (because i'vd had the same experience) when he said them he was not BSin'g

and again, going from memory here:

1. "energy off the charts" ... it is .. THAT is what is the "attractor" ~ magnet if you will

now he did it by not ejaculating

i just "made it up"

2.) both men and women are attracted

when this gets "turned on" it makes no distinction between men or women NOR even between gay or straight

until you reach Oprah level (a term used to acknowledge the surpassing of a point to such a high degree you soar above HATERS and everyone just conceeds "you're it")

anyway, until then?

it pisses EVERYONE off

men friends, women friends, gay friends, straight friends

at first its a novelty (like him, i wasn't "born" with it) so when it happens, at first its a novelty then they get pissed off

can't help themselves for hating ...
its a typical and standard form of projection
its not like most people are going to take a good hard look at their own insecurities so they will project them onto you

3.) he made the comment somewhere "they couldn't if they tried"

ONLY someone who has REALLY attained THAT level of magnetism is going to have a thought like that

as, i've already stated, you start to deal with people's projections
they start to say stupid things like

"well ... i would never .............. (insert women or men here)

i just want a good woman or man" or something to that effect
like they are spiritually above such yearnings

and ONLY someone who CAN and DOES attract whoever they want
and really tons they do not even want?

will have the thought:

"Sweetie, that's a darned good stance for you to have, because you couldn't if you tried"

arrogant?

yes i KNOW .. THAT is the point

you're NOT THAT arrogant without having had THAT experience

if you haven't had THAT experience?

you're in the lot of disbelievers
or
the lot who tell themselves they haven't because they did not want to

whatever

the point is ... to have THAT thought?

THAT level of arrogance?

you HAVE ACTUALLY had that experience



it is stupid and unproductive use of time and energy so don't waste time bemoaning missing out on that experience

truly truly without merit or value

what WOULD be a good exercise is to operate in TRUTH

like admit this is a "secret yearning" and then explore WHY?

what is the SOURCE of that?

for me? it is a HUGE red flag anytime i'm basking in the validation of another
OR giving the invalidation another gives any merit

it is WHY i terminated this ...

something to be wary of

NOT seek after

like a trap one can be EASILY ensnared in

i'm embarrassed, not proud of this experience



WAX!!!!!


you know how you are trying to convince them to conserve their energy?

conserve yours

why waste your time trying to convince them of something they cannot even fathom????

[iota]

i piped in ... because i hate it when people gang up ... and everyone i'm sure had their points ..

but its just like i tell the young people:

"don't let them take your rights away! they will tell you its "For a good reason"

"good reason" does NOT give ANYONE the RIGHT to dominate you!"

same here ...

so he wasn't humble

again, not that it can be fathomed, but people with THAT experience are generally NOT known for "being humble"

it was just another "Tell" that he was indeed speaking his TRUTH



now, THAT was the second reason i piped in

this bit of WANTING
INSISTING
almost to the point of FORCING

people to CONFORM their behavior has ALMOST DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY

i know people here think it was the fraud
or
the powers that be
or
whatever "external force" flavor of the moment is responsible for the state of affairs

but i differ in opinion

i submit that it is OUR willingness to accept things as long as they "sound" ok

as long as they SAY them in a way we find "acceptable"

palatable

some of this humbleness demanded here
or
"politeness" perhaps

THINK on this for a moment

where does TRUTH factor in?

the elected officials we have do NOT HAVE to BE honest people

they just HAVE TO SOUND like honest people

WE have decided that as long as we are placated

WE WILL AGREE TO BE LIED TO

a truly sad and pathetic state of affairs if you ask me

Me> i'll take honesty over flowery lies ANY TIME

it is a TRUE DISRESPECT to "put on" for people

it is saying: "you are NOT big enough person to handle the truth"

QUITE a LETHAL game everyone is agreeing to play

i want NO part of it

[Gracy]

I don't see any hating, forcing, or ganging up going on here; just people sharing information, opinions, and not always in agreement.

Non agreement is allowed.

[iota]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I don't see any hating, forcing, or ganging up going on here; just people sharing information, opinions, and not always in agreement.

Non agreement is allowed.

#1. that's a LIE

or are you are going to ask anyone to believe you don't "see" what you habitually do?

YOU were one of the first to start it

and you were the first to admit in writing publicly that HATE is the basis for responses to people you disagree with

none of us had ever gone t to that level before YOU brought it up

or as far as i know, coming from THAT place

YOU were the ONLY one expressing

HATE as present

and yes ... bringing it here ... so that it was present here

i NOW "see" it where before i did not

perhaps something you should REALLY "look" into and TRY "to see" what is the source of that?

#2 not only is it predictable that you would say that?
it is predictable that you would be on your best behavior right now


but SOUNDING "innocent" does NOT become you

it was the SECOND part of my post ~ the fact that people are NOT operating in TRUTH

but in outright deception that everyone will just PRETEND and "go along" with AS long as IT SOUNDS good

what IS the Truth is that a major portion of your posts online are:

DIVISIVE
DISPARIGING
MOCKING
OPPOSITIONAL
INSULTING
and

ABSOLUTELY DISAGREEING

you do this on the FIRST post
then on responses you know they are being watched and you are "careful"

often the second posts sound eeerily suspiciously like the response was well thought out BEFORE anyone responded

so ... yea ... you made sure NOTHING in this response could be held against you

i mean except for the fact that it is an outright LIE

it was WORDED to SOUND good

#3 i am amazed at how it is that you manage to keep up at all in this FORUM

if i had the time, (and i'm growing closer TO BE inclined)
to look up ALL of your posts and count

i wonder HOW many times you have posted the words:

"I don't see __________________"

i honestly, just do my own thing, i do not keep up with you

yet i CONTINUOUSLY run into you on threads i frequent saying EXACTLY

"i don't see ________________"

"i don't think ________________"

and i wonder how it is that you manage life in any viable way at all

i mean "NOT SEEING" or understanding ANYTHING?

#4 you want to know what I DO NOT SEE?

i do NOT SEE how someone whose title is supposed to be one that represents:

1. a stabilizing force on the forum

instead CONTINUOUSLY and habitually and CONSISTENTLY

comes in and DISRUPTS

2.) a SAFE space

instead IS THE VERY ONE MOCKING or ridiculing members

3.) UNITY and HARMONY

is DIVISIVE, DISAGREEABLE, CHALLENGING

it is like if i had a child i was attempting to train in HOW TO BEHAVE?

i would pull YOU up as an example of

HOW NOT TO BEHAVE

i'd have to say:

we strive for TRUTH > NOT LIES

we speak honestly but > NOT antagonistically

we defend the downcast > NOT ATTACK

we respect > NOT ridicule, mock, derision

again, we speak TRUTH > not PRETEND to "not see" to try to JUSTIFY or RATIONALIZE

i taught my children that if they felt the need to justify or rationalize?
"
that it was their BEHAVIOR that needed changing
and an exploration of WHY they were acting this way
what was the SOURCE of the upset
what wounds needed to be healed

i'm not expecting you to understand ANY of this

i mean we have post after post after post

of you declaring how you:

"Don't see"

"Don't understand" asking (expecting) people to explain things to you

so again, what i DO NOT see?

is HOW this is acceptable behavior for an admin

i personally know of members both who have left

and expressed the desire TO leave because of YOU

GREAT JOB as an admin Gracy!

[Gracy]

Mod hat on

I hope you feel better now iota, it's good to let it out.

And now:

[iota]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
Mod hat on

I hope you feel better now iota, it's good to let it out.

And now:

darn it ... left out ... just to NOT overstate a point and all

#5 when your behavior is CLEARLY inexcusabe

AND

you lack the capacity to respond?

you throw your weight around

MODS HAT

and no Gracy,

i thought i had made it abundantly CLEAR

since AGAIN you DO NOT "understand"?

INTERACTIONS WITH YOU ARE VERY UNPLEASANT

WHY would i FEEL better?

and #2

now it is I who does NOT understand?

EXPLAIN The purpose of MODS HAT

to say "i hjope you feel better"

WHY is a MODS hat needed?

is that a:

"i have put on my hat of 'authority' on and am NOW throwing my weight around"?

so in other words:

SHUT UP?

#6

you DO realize that you did it AGAIN, right?

like you just can't help yourself

you were DERISIVE, mocking a member

TAUNTING

because there is NOTHING about your current behavior

nor PAST behavior

to lend ANY credibility to the statement that

YOU HOPE i FEEL better

i'd have to call that ANOTHER lie

and no need for "MODS HAT" if that were anywhere in the vicinity of TRUTH

PLUS ... AGAIN

WHY ARE YOU A MOD?

and how is this acceptable?

[Gracy]

Once again iota:

[iota]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
Once again iota:

should i pull out YOUR quote of YOU saying:

"i'll POST AS I PLEASE WHEREVER I PLEASE"

is that like for admins only?

because, again, the point has ALREADY been made

you ONLY have the TITLE of "admin"

you do NOT in fact, BEHAVE as an admin

so YOUR behavior would NOT be an exemplary one to follow

[Gracy]

Posted by iota (here)

Posted by Gracy May (here)
Once again iota:

should i pull out YOUR quote of YOU saying:


"i'll POST AS I PLEASE WHEREVER I PLEASE"

is that like for admins only?

because, again, the point has ALREADY been made

you ONLY have the TITLE of "admin"

you do NOT in fact, BEHAVE as an admin

so YOUR behavior would NOT be an exemplary one to follow

Perhaps on topic needs to be explained. This is a topic oriented forum, meaning threads are based upon varying topics of conversation, with the goal being to keep conversations on, or close to, the topic an original poster designates.

Posting as I please necessarily means I try to stay on topic, while saying whatever I please on said topic; that doesn’t mean you have to like it, and it has zero to do with some sort of staff privilege.

On the other hand, your parade of insults are not only against forum rules, they have ZERO to do with this topic at hand so I’m asking you, yet again:

[JackMcThorn]

Ben Franklin wrote his 13 virtues in his early 2os. He said they are constantly a work in progress.

12. Chastity. Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dullness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another’s peace or reputation.

The rest of Franklin's Virtues can be found here:
http://franklinsway.com/benjamin-franklins-13-virtues/

[bobme]

I am not here to judge the op, nor anyone else.

Just to give an example of my own encounter with someone of similar ideas of celibacy.

they were told on a website,that if you do not practice celibacy, you cannot ascend. sorry,but the web site was not given to me. my thought on the matter did not matter to them. they were right, I was wrong. period.

I was said to be full of parasites, possessed of archons,reptillians,& a number of other evil creatures for even suggesting that the person may have an addiction to the ascending culture.

I am not into celibacy. Guess I have no chance to ascend

Just asking that question has put a bullseye upon me. Living it to this day.

[Mike]

I don't care about ascension. I don't even know what it is exactly. I don't think anyone does.

Why would I forfeit something so pleasurable for some abstract, nebulous notion of 'ascension'? It requires an enormous sacrfice and an act of faith that makes almost zero sense

So I can be charming and charismatic? So I won't feel awkward in front of people? So people of both sexes will desire me?

One sex desiring me occasionally is good enough for me! Lol. And if I want to be charming and charismatic, I just flip the switch and do that silly dance, even if I've jerked off 3 times that day. It doesn't stop me. But the whole motivation for that type of thing is to get laid, in general, so there's a lack of circular logic to this whole no ejaculating thing that I'm having a hard time grappling with

But, of course I've heard of these benefits that are described in the OP. And perhaps there's something to them. But it all honestly sounds like a sales pitch, like someone telling me I can regrow my hair for 49.99 a month. So, for Wax, good on you mate. Glad it works for you. But I'm not quite sold yet.

[bobme]

It is never sold to me Mike.

[DeDukshyn]

I have been at both ends of the spectrum ... maybe I can help explain some of this.

During longer periods without orgasm / ejaculation, I've never gained any superpowers, massive amounts of charisma, didn't ascend, etc.

But I have also had periods where it was probably a bit of an addiction. I wasn't just doing it because I was really horny, I was doing it out of boredom, addiction, to feel "better' etc. But in these cases it dragged me down, kinda like many addictions can. It saps your energy, you gain some subconscious guilt, you lose creative energy, you lose motivation, etc. It really does have a negative effect.

But then when you get out of those cycles, you gain your creativity back, normal sex drive comes back, the addiction and negative mental impacts that come with that subside, your motivation strengthens, and guess what? It feels like you've gained superpowers and super charisma, (still not sure about that ascension claim though, lol) because the previous state had been normalized and the contrast between the two creates a feeling of superiority.

I think there might be appropriate times to masturbate, but those times are where the horniness is extremely strong and the energy cannot be redirected into creative endeavours. One doesn't want any type of energetic blockage.

At the same time, doing it outside of these instances, is a drain on creative energy which does have other effects, and plus the potential for addiction and other issues arise.

I don't think its any more special or complicated than this.

EDIT to add: Just as an anecdote, I have noticed that I tend to lucid dream more, when I orgasm less. Considering that sexual energy is creative energy and orgasming less allows it to build up a bit, this makes sense to me.