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    The reason I will hunker down and wait and see what happens is that whether or not I am paranoid, there is something SO STRANGE about how the vaccination issue has been treated all along (Denying that it may be a huge mistake. Denying that people are becoming autistic at exponential rates and that SIDS is vaccine injury for example... REFUSING to acknowledge thses issues). Now it is so STRANGE that every public health measure has been subverting health (masks, lock downs etc.).
    Exactly. Another such strange thing is that there hasn't been any government recommendation for people to optimise their immune system. Instead of sending out unsuitable tests, why not distribute or at least recommend health supporting vitamins? There may have been a blink-and-you-miss-it mention of vitamin D, but on the whole, as you say, all they've encouraged people to do has been to undermine their body by depriving it from the very things it needs. Now they're wanting to fluoridise all of the drinking water in England and Wales. Not hard to guess why, but they'll probably 'justify' it with the denied dental care.

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    I have decided here to not talk about my thoughts with friends and family any more on the vaccine because I don't know how far the police state will go or be allowed to go down the road from here. Who is to say if reporting others who did not take the vaccine might not be something people are told is their patriotic duty?
    If you have done enough research where you possess the knowledge and understanding the vaccines might be unsafe, is it not your duty as a human to share what information you understand to friends and family are not vaccinated?

    snip......
    If I think there is a chance of an open mind yes, if they have not taken the "Vaccine".

    But... the decision most people make is not logical or thoughtful, and there are many reasons not to say anything.

    1. If we are right and harm comes to people who take the vax, most people will remember what you said and not be appreciative at all, as their body begins to fall apart.
    2. If they have bought into the current lie why would they not buy into any future lies about the possible risks of being with people who have not taken the vax? Where does that leave people and their relationships?
    3. If you look at places like pre-war Germany one of the strategies was on turning other people in for not towing the party line. Social shaming is already being used here on so many issues, I can see laws being passed codyfying this sort of thing.
    4. I think mind control technologies are much further developed now and as I talk to people I wonder how they can be so illogical?

    The list goes on as to why one should be circumspect at this point in time.....

    One more note... the vax seems to be in response to covid19. I would make the argument that while this is true, maybe covid19 was primarily created so people would take the vax. Making people live in fear for a year has totally destroyed the rational thought process for many people.

    It has proven to be a very effective strategy to get people to voluntarily accept what look like the beginnings of a software operating system into their bodies...right?

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    I am not into Mike Adams stuffs at all but someone sent it to me and decided to listen..

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/c8b5f02a-b9a7-4792-af56-dd34f61320e8

    It is related to this thread, the podcast is a little bit over one hour, I played it at 1.5x speed just to have a general idea what he was speaking about.. well no opinions or judgment from my part, just listen and see for yourself.
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    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    I am not into Mike Adams stuffs at all but someone sent it to me and decided to listen..

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/c8b5f02a-b9a7-4792-af56-dd34f61320e8

    It is related to this thread, the podcast is a little bit over one hour, I played it at 1.5x speed just to have a general idea what he was speaking about.. well no opinions or judgment from my part, just listen and see for yourself.
    This is way down the rabbit hole and talks about the whys of this current situation with an explanation of terra forming the planet, annihilating human kind, the goal of placing consciousness into machines and rounding off with god and souls.

    I keep thinking I have reached the bottom of the barrel of evil but Mike has just reminded me there is always a fresh barrel to scrape.

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    Default Re: Supporting others who've had the covid vaccination

    Mike Adams als foresaw bloodbaths and civil war for January

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    Quote Posted by wegge (here)
    Mike Adams als foresaw bloodbaths and civil war for January
    It was WE who stopped that. Good job Us. Hope Mike was not too disappointed. On a serious note, I met 6 different people who had both jabs today (all teachers) in Blue Ridge but visiting form all over (40's to 81) and NONE reported any problems. Interesting. Maybe WE did that too? I absolutely think Divine can do anything and WE connect the Divine inner with the outer.

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    After the initial heartbreak, of those that I LOVE and care about not interested AT ALL in what I had to say... and getting the 'jab' anyway...

    I've gone Nocebo...

    I figure that without any outside influence with regards adverse effects etc... As they don't show them on the news... (Barsteward liars and the lying "Supposed" professionals) I've refused to mention it...

    If the Placebo effect can be so POWERFUL why can't the NOCEBO effect be equally as powerful...
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    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    After the initial heartbreak, of those that I LOVE and care about not interested AT ALL in what I had to say... and getting the 'jab' anyway...

    I've gone Nocebo...

    I figure that without any outside influence with regards adverse effects etc... As they don't show them on the news... (Barsteward liars and the lying "Supposed" professionals) I've refused to mention it...

    If the Placebo effect can be so POWERFUL why can't the NOCEBO effect be equally as powerful...
    I have been very vocal with friends and family and they did not care what I said really. It is as if some poeple were mesmerized A LONG TIME AGO> If someone has been jabbed, I just stop talking. If they want to talk to me about it, I will bite my tongue. It is really important to support others by allowing them to feel what they chose is OK. Actually I avoid talking to jabbed people because I still feel really sure it is deathly and feel my own helplessness. Maybe we will soon find remedies that reverse the issues? Well, except for those who die.

    YES, the nocebo is powerful. That is why NO ONE should EVER use a medical procedure that they think is harmful. People should NEVER be mandated to be vaccinated. This is a crime against humanity in itself... to disregard that each person is different and each of us modulates the world based on our beliefs.

    I believe vaccines are EVIL and they entangle the whole world in a psychic snare of harm and trauma. It is not just one or two but dozens now with more coming and this MRNA jab is a mystery in its effects.

    Children are CONSTANTLY being held down and forced to receive HUGE numbers of vaccinations. This is a crime in itself as the children are over powered and hurt. Parents must face their complicity in allowing these inoculations. We have a legacy of cruelty and ignorance and call it healthcare. I cannot help but feel that the insult caused people to embrace the enemy so to speak. If you cannot beat them, join them psychologically.

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    Default Re: Supporting others who've had the covid vaccination

    Delight you speak my frustrations...

    Hence my post about Nocebo...

    Thank God for Avalon so we don't pent up all our frustrations and have no one to talk to about OUR feelings... x



    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    After the initial heartbreak, of those that I LOVE and care about not interested AT ALL in what I had to say... and getting the 'jab' anyway...

    I've gone Nocebo...

    I figure that without any outside influence with regards adverse effects etc... As they don't show them on the news... (Barsteward liars and the lying "Supposed" professionals) I've refused to mention it...

    If the Placebo effect can be so POWERFUL why can't the NOCEBO effect be equally as powerful...
    I have been very vocal with friends and family and they did not care what I said really. It is as if some poeple were mesmerized A LONG TIME AGO> If someone has been jabbed, I just stop talking. If they want to talk to me about it, I will bite my tongue. It is really important to support others by allowing them to feel what they chose is OK. Actually I avoid talking to jabbed people because I still feel really sure it is deathly and feel my own helplessness. Maybe we will soon find remedies that reverse the issues? Well, except for those who die.

    YES, the nocebo is powerful. That is why NO ONE should EVER use a medical procedure that they think is harmful. People should NEVER be mandated to be vaccinated. This is a crime against humanity in itself... to disregard that each person is different and each of us modulates the world based on our beliefs.

    I believe vaccines are EVIL and they entangle the whole world in a psychic snare of harm and trauma. It is not just one or two but dozens now with more coming and this MRNA jab is a mystery in its effects.

    Children are CONSTANTLY being held down and forced to receive HUGE numbers of vaccinations. This is a crime in itself as the children are over powered and hurt. Parents must face their complicity in allowing these inoculations. We have a legacy of cruelty and ignorance and call it healthcare. I cannot help but feel that the insult caused people to embrace the enemy so to speak. If you cannot beat them, join them psychologically.

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    An alternate health professional I know said years ago that "Im over run with cases of those who spent time with people vaccinated with the flu vaccine" it seems possible that those vaccinated unknowingly can spread what they have been vaccinated with.
    I hope that is not true of this vaccine
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    Chris If I may ask, what did your friend mean exactly?

    Did he feel an emanating force through those that had been vaccinated compared to those that hadn't ?

    How could he tell? x




    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    An alternate health professional I know said years ago that "Im over run with cases of those who spent time with people vaccinated with the flu vaccine" it seems possible that those vaccinated unknowingly can spread what they have been vaccinated with.
    I hope that is not true of this vaccine
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    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    Chris If I may ask, what did your friend mean exactly?

    Did he feel an emanating force through those that had been vaccinated compared to those that hadn't ?

    How could he tell? x




    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    An alternate health professional I know said years ago that "Im over run with cases of those who spent time with people vaccinated with the flu vaccine" it seems possible that those vaccinated unknowingly can spread what they have been vaccinated with.
    I hope that is not true of this vaccine
    Chris
    Rosalie is retired now but developed the most successful complimentary practise in Scotland.
    She had a method of testing hair samples against known illness.
    Basically at the time of year that people get the flu vaccine there was an uptake of people with flu like symptoms who had no temperature issues -- in other words they did not have the flu.
    Now the conversation happened many years ago so I am saying this what she said to the best of memory.
    Rosalie was very down to earth and precise --if she said there was some kind of transference I believe her. Unfortunately

    Remember there is a very effective immune system -- not everyone would be susceptible to transference

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    An alternate health professional I know said years ago that "Im over run with cases of those who spent time with people vaccinated with the flu vaccine" it seems possible that those vaccinated unknowingly can spread what they have been vaccinated with.
    I hope that is not true of this vaccine
    Chris
    I’ve heard this too Chris, I believe the nasal spray for flu that they give children is the worst as it is known to shed. And as we know all too well, little kids aren’t all about catch it bin it kill it, it gets wiped and sneezed at random.
    I often wondered is this what actually causes the yearly flu? Much as approx 78%(?) of polio cases are now vaccine induced polio, are the yearly flu cases vaccine induced varients too?
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    After the initial heartbreak, of those that I LOVE and care about not interested AT ALL in what I had to say... and getting the 'jab' anyway...

    I've gone Nocebo...

    I figure that without any outside influence with regards adverse effects etc... As they don't show them on the news... (Barsteward liars and the lying "Supposed" professionals) I've refused to mention it...

    If the Placebo effect can be so POWERFUL why can't the NOCEBO effect be equally as powerful...
    I have been very vocal with friends and family and they did not care what I said really. It is as if some poeple were mesmerized A LONG TIME AGO> If someone has been jabbed, I just stop talking. If they want to talk to me about it, I will bite my tongue. It is really important to support others by allowing them to feel what they chose is OK. Actually I avoid talking to jabbed people because I still feel really sure it is deathly and feel my own helplessness. Maybe we will soon find remedies that reverse the issues? Well, except for those who die.

    YES, the nocebo is powerful. That is why NO ONE should EVER use a medical procedure that they think is harmful. People should NEVER be mandated to be vaccinated. This is a crime against humanity in itself... to disregard that each person is different and each of us modulates the world based on our beliefs.

    I believe vaccines are EVIL and they entangle the whole world in a psychic snare of harm and trauma. It is not just one or two but dozens now with more coming and this MRNA jab is a mystery in its effects.

    Children are CONSTANTLY being held down and forced to receive HUGE numbers of vaccinations. This is a crime in itself as the children are over powered and hurt. Parents must face their complicity in allowing these inoculations. We have a legacy of cruelty and ignorance and call it healthcare. I cannot help but feel that the insult caused people to embrace the enemy so to speak. If you cannot beat them, join them psychologically.
    I agree about nocebo/placebo. It's very powerful and goes deeper than most realize. If circumstances require one to get the jab (might be the case for me at my current job), it's best to try to reclaim your own power and sense of choice in whatever way you can. Examples might be making sure that the appointment occurs on your own terms, that you spend time ramping yourself up into a positive state beforehand and such. While the specific compounds in vaccines or other medicines are important and are responsible for some of the reactions we see, on a deeper level it does come down to our sense of agency and inner sovereignty. If one feels that such is being violated, am autoimmune reaction is more likely, especially for those of us with heightened spiritual and energetic sensitivity. This is one reason why some of the other practitioners I know advise against acupuncture for babies, or suggest rounded needles that don't puncture the skin but can still stimulate acupuncture points.

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    While I have breath left in my body I will not be taking this jabberwocky..I'm getting constant texts and letters to make my appointment but it's not gonna happen. My husband isn't taking it either but my twin girls 20yrs are on the fence which is concerning to say the least. One is away at uni and I don't know if it will be mandatory in the future to attend ,sigh..I have shown her mountains of evidence from vaccine impact news website and various videos with experts in vaccines who are telling truths ..all to no avail..I know all she's bothered about is going clubbing..God help us all ,I'm not giving up on her. My other girl is very quiet and likes to follow rules and not upset anyone. I just hope they see the light before it's too late ..I never shut up about it now the news are lying so am praying the seeds of truth are growing in their brains. My son 22yrs is autistic with learning difficulties and is more than happy to listen to mum and go along with my wishes. My brother and his wife are adamant they are having it ..they think I'm the stupid one for refusing !..so many people I work with have had it or getting it I'm going to be the odd one out soon ..something to be proud of at least .My heart genuinely goes out to all the souls globally that have been jabbed that the ultimate creator will heal them and keep the connection strong. For all the souls who have passed I pray you have gone home to be with source in eternal bliss.💖

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    I was reading a comment a while back, I think it was on one of UK Columns videos...

    It was from a nurse who worked in the 'lab' at her Hospital so she had had close contact with patients and took bloods for analyse.

    The bit that got me was the fact that she stated that from 2002 until 2009 the Hospital she worked in was NEVER overrun with the flu, in fact during that time she could only recall 3 folk that had been hospitalised with it, One was over 80 and the other two were twins 3yrs old. None of them died. She said it was around that time 2009 they started to introduce the annual flu vaccine 'jab' then she saw cases of flu induced hospitalisation sky rocket...

    She didn't say it, but was implying it was caused by the flu vaccine...

    I'm still nocebo, it's all I have left to hang on to because IF I believe all that is being purported to happen after the 'jab' then in theory my loved ones "could' all die on me pretty soon or if that doesn't finish them off, then the autoimmune diseases will make their lives unbearable ...



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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    An alternate health professional I know said years ago that "Im over run with cases of those who spent time with people vaccinated with the flu vaccine" it seems possible that those vaccinated unknowingly can spread what they have been vaccinated with.
    I hope that is not true of this vaccine
    Chris
    I’ve heard this too Chris, I believe the nasal spray for flu that they give children is the worst as it is known to shed. And as we know all too well, little kids aren’t all about catch it bin it kill it, it gets wiped and sneezed at random.
    I often wondered is this what actually causes the yearly flu? Much as approx 78%(?) of polio cases are now vaccine induced polio, are the yearly flu cases vaccine induced varients too?
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    Default Re: Supporting others who've had the covid vaccination

    I'm in the same quandary as many of you - with numerous loved ones, friends, and family members that have had 2 injections of gene therapy (but believe they are "vaccinated.") I too have shut up, thinking, what good can it do to alarm them now (even if they can become alarmed.)

    But then, I just saw the following video, and I am squirming in my seat, internally debating which of my loved ones I feel that I MUST share that video with, because of what Dr. Bhakdi says near the end of the video about those people getting follow-up jabs (booster jabs maybe variant jabs), because their potential for clotting - anywhere in the body including the brain - drastically increases with each jab. How can I not spread this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyPjAfNNA-U

    "In February, 2021, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D. and a number of his colleagues warned the European Medicines Agency about the potential danger of blood clots and cerebral vein thrombosis in millions of people receiving experimental gene-based injections. Since then, two of the four injections have been suspended or recalled in Europe and the United States for just that reason. In this episode of Perspectives, Professor Bhakdi explains the science behind the problem, why it is not just limited to the products already suspended, and why in the long term we may be creating dangerously overactive immune systems in billions of unwitting subjects. "


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    Quote Posted by EarthGirl (here)
    I was reading a comment a while back, I think it was on one of UK Columns videos...

    It was from a nurse who worked in the 'lab' at her Hospital so she had had close contact with patients and took bloods for analyse.

    The bit that got me was the fact that she stated that from 2002 until 2009 the Hospital she worked in was NEVER overrun with the flu, in fact during that time she could only recall 3 folk that had been hospitalised with it, One was over 80 and the other two were twins 3yrs old. None of them died. She said it was around that time 2009 they started to introduce the annual flu vaccine 'jab' then she saw cases of flu induced hospitalisation sky rocket...
    I admit that I did take the flu shot a few years in the early 2000's, as I had a severe case of the flu in the 90's that led to pneumonia. (not hospitalized, though.)

    But I got a very creepy feeling about the whole thing in 2009 during that swine flu pandemic false push. The same scare tactics and terrible stories were rolled out then, about people dying from this new swine flu, and a huge push was made for everyone to rush to take the vaccine for the new H1N1 variant. Some vaccine horror stories appeared at that time, too. The whole affair had also been led up to by the 1918 flu pandemic being publicized widely by mainstream.

    Although the whole 2009 affair fizzled out, I vowed at that time to never take a flu shot with that new H1N1 variant in it, and sure enough, that variant was in every flu shot from 2009 on. My sister and her family continued to religiously get their flu shots since then, and every year, those family members have "the flu", whereas my last real flu was in 1994. My sister wound up in the hospital twice from the flu, and is now fighting heart problems among other things.

    I have been suspicious of the flu shot with H1N1 in it ever since, and this nurse you cite above, EarthGirl, reinforces my suspicions even more.
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    ... here is something that might cut it:
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    Default Re: Supporting others who've had the covid vaccination

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    I absolutely think Divine can do anything and WE connect the Divine inner with the outer.
    100%.

    I think WE have stopped a lot of things in the past decades that were designed and "meant" to be by those who think they control. I think WE will be doing the same moving forward and that this is how the shift will look. I think WE have every chance of neutralizing the vaccine as well if WE choose to do so en masse. The trouble will be, getting people to realize they've been had, bamboozled, led astray.


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    If someone has been jabbed, I just stop talking. If they want to talk to me about it, I will bite my tongue. It is really important to support others by allowing them to feel what they chose is OK. Actually I avoid talking to jabbed people because I still feel really sure it is deathly and feel my own helplessness. Maybe we will soon find remedies that reverse the issues? Well, except for those who die.
    I find this to be a powerful strategy as well. I will still offer hints, mostly in the realm of sharing articles that speak about SARS and long-term immunity and emphasizing the research shows that having had the virus previously, there are not only antibodies but T-Cells that protect the individual, which the experimental RNA treatments cannot say, so natural immunity is even better than the jab.

    But I find that the "stop talking" methodology is often accompanied by an agreement with the jabbed, that we just won't talk about it. That is where I'm pretty much at with family members right now and it seems to be working pretty well. Folks are very insistent on finding out if you are jabbed at work though, and I am a teacher of High School, so when the other teachers ask, there is an expectation that you will answer or that they have the right to your response. The team environment is wonderful in every other case but this one and I can't help but still feel the whole "bodysnatcher" thing going on when in a group of jabbed.
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