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28th June 2021 15:32
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Re: Supporting others who've had the covid vaccination
I had to get the vaccine for work, and I specifically chose the J&J shot since it is a true vector vaccine, which is what a flu shot is.
I was told beforehand that it helps to be thoroughly hydrated when you get the shot. I was--I drank and drank and drank so much water in the four days before I got the shot that I felt like my eyeballs were floating. When the nurse injected the shot, it felt kind of cold and like a bruise. They made me sit there for 15 minutes to make sure I didn't have a reaction or anything, but then I could go. The sore, bruised sensation disappeared on my drive home (about 10 minutes) and then I felt oddly elated for the next few days. I never got sick like some do, and I was thankful for that.
If you have to get the poke, I suggest the J&J shot for those reasons.
Too many unknowns about the mRNA shots.
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28th June 2021 19:58
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Re: Supporting others who've had the covid vaccination
Having friends in jobs where there are pre-employment tests and two-a-week-tests both being a prerequisite and a continuing mandate for working, I've had to stop sharing the scientific details with them for not testing, and the massive dangers of getting shot. Not because they asked me to stop, or even that they have complained, as they have not done either.
The facts are that it does them no more good for me to expand upon the truths they already have a good understanding of, unless they ask me. As a friend I count my support of them and their health, their mental health, dealing with what they are now enduring on the job.
None of these friends will voluntarily take a shot, just as I will not take a test to begin with, let alone a shot, both of which violate the Nuremberg Code adopted by many countries in 1947, rules against experimental testing and vaccination, especially those without fully informed consent.
When told of the implied necessity to be tested before I am 'allowed' to work, I simply told one of my friends that "I'm okay with the situation." He and I do have different interpretations of that statement.
As I'm in a position with two job offers that are managerial and will require my intense participation, energies and commitment way beyond the common 12 hour days, for 6 or 7 day weeks, that skilled positions normally take on, I spend my days being very busy prepping to jump in. In this business it is all about adaptation, especially with production scheduling, funding, talent availability, etc..
As a master at repurposing flats/recycling used walls and construction materials from other productions, and my profound respect for the propmakers, the plasterers and the amazing painters to make used flats new (and safe), I have also been well aware of my value to a production that does not need to unnecessarily pad it's production costs, leaving more in each budget for profit. I was told on the last one I CC'd, construction coordinated, that we saved the production a large amount in construction costs. When the DP, the director, the line producer and other producers tell you that, it's usually true. Their other promises, we trust when the cash is in hand.
(Off topic but relative to employment opportunities....
In this time of hyper inflated material costs it's wise to recycle.....Something initially practiced, until CC's realized they could resell the cleaned up set materials for an immediate cash return and it was then that the better practice of saving flats stopped.....more union work hours spent with new materials, etc..and many sets were just trashed. However it must be noted that if a wall cannot be saved to store, with no immediate cash reward available, there are few ways to structurally save it. And, there is the matter of paying the rent or mortgage on a building where all of the used set materials are stored, which is just a matter of using abandoned, but securable, buildings.)
So, my friends do know my position, as well as I do their continuing angst about working under unethically mandated testing and extremely unhealthy, and at times dangerous, masking mandates that defy all previous OSHA health rules. I tell all of the productions that insist on testing to stick the swabs where the sun doesn't shine, and to eat the masks they know are poisoning their workers....
If I were to comply with what we can easily prove to be unhealthy working conditions I, as well as the production that hires all of us, could be subject to litigation. The truth, the irrefutable science cannot be unlearned, nor ignored. What a country full of weak minded, distracted losers, losing their freedoms without a whimper...!!!
Let alone my care for my health and those working with me, the industries can take their arse kissing and exposure to being sued, elsewhere. I refuse to subject anyone to complying with unethical mandates.
If I lose my union membership it will be my gain. I was told of a muslim union member, who after long being harassed by racist, pseudo-christian members and telling of his desire to leave for his own self-respect, his physical safety and his future, if he'd like an honorable discharge from the union. His reply is the same as mine will be. He said "If there was anything honorable to be discharged from, I'd take it. There isn't. I'm free."
This is but one of many industries that have lost their human touch, their primary and elemental understanding for their being called unions or industries with a pride in the quality of their work and their treatment by their employers. Not only did their union servants, their elected officials, not listen to them, they didn't listen to each other.
(I'm putting up my next post on another locked-in industry, another career path that has completely lost its way, with egregious constrictions of its health freedoms. It is a glimpse into another world that few know about.) https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1437071
This is all beyond the core reasoning for not being tested or taking a shot, when we're healthy and show no symptoms of disease.
That core reason is this is all about freedom, the need to be employed, the intrusion into civil liberties and americans for the most part being conditioned by compliance, though many have professed their individuality and forbearance for living as a free person in a free nation. Those friends are not yet ready to stop being employed with the skills that they have while in the industries they have been in for years, and are not yet prepared to then to jump into new careers, or revive old ones they have an interest or previous skill in. They have to pursue options in order to even think about ending their compliance to unhealthy mandates.
The very predictable aspect of all of this is that my friends have already expressed their thinning tolerance for the very negative and inhumane nature of working in a union so distant in it's challenge to inbred abuses and its insulting and degrading, superficial support to social justice issues. I know, as I was on those committees initially created to address those issues, when a union leader was finally caught being abusive to women and forced to leave....but his dark imprint won't leave for years until the systemic abuse he fostered is gone, being that he trained them all so well.
It was so easy for that union to call out for racial equality in a place where so few blacks live and where the predominantly hispanic work force is straight up racist, and compliant to the abusive heads of departments, tokenism at its best. The proofs of all of this weakness, which I do not anymore point out to my friends, are that not one union member has complained to the local about the mandates. They've whined about it a little, but not one has gone further, nor demanded action and support of its elected officials.
So, with my friends who are acutely aware of all of this, I am one of few who stand with them and listen, prompting the new strengths they cultivate in finding the freedom they assumed existed in their current careers.
Last edited by Hym; 28th June 2021 at 21:40.
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29th June 2021 09:09
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