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    Default The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    The UAP is heating up with more new initiatives by way new websites, disclosure has become a hot topic on many sites this is before the culmination of the Senate hearings in June 2021.

    There is now more frequent announcements, more revelations of UAP incursions with not only US military, but Chinese and Russian military; more government/ex government interviews that provides the concern of governments world wide. Its an unprecedented time in the 75 years of UAP.

    The skeptics are trying hard to counter the revelations. This is to be expected as the mental framework of thinking is come up with answers that might fit the criteria, but frequently falls short of the reality when one analysis the data. Its been a lazy approach of sweeping statements that are fallacies.

    https://www.space.com/declassified-u...m_term=3653836

    James Fox filmmaker of THE PHENOMENON announces new Political Initiative – UAP ACT NOW https://uapactnow.com

    Into the mix we also have new announcements today from Alfred Webre and Paul Helyer that really don't align with mainstream at present. In particular, 'who represents the Earth'.

    IMHO Alfred Webre cannot produce any genuine evidence to support his claims of an Intergalactic Federation.

    What sets PA apart is that we are evidentially based within the broad sense of the word.

    This also goes with Paul Hellyer (ex deputy Prime Minister of Canada) regard his comments made in relation to the link information provided here.

    VANCOUVER, BC –

    Now that the U.S. White House of Joe Biden has quietly abolished the privilege of White House Petitions the U.S. Citizens formerly enjoyed under prior Democratic and Republican administrations, Canadian UFO researcher Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd, CERT Public Health – a dual Canadian-American citizen – turned to the Canadian Parliament’s ePetition in his continuing quest to seek official status as “an Earth representative to the Regional Galactic Governance Council.

    Canadian UFO researcher creates official Petition to have Canadian government designate him “an Earth representative” to Galactic Council

    EXOPOLITICS.COM: https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopol...tative-to.html

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    https://newsinsideout.com/2021/03/ca...actic-council/

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Regarding Alfred Webre, although it's just "noise", it's one of those situations that contributes to the lack of credibility of the UFO community. In particular at this time in history. I have always considered his views beyond radical to the point of ludicrous. In my mind he makes Steven Greer look like Stanton Friedman.

    With any kind of luck the Canadian member of Parliament to whom he has directed his petition - Jody Wilson-Raybould - the petition will probably be responded to but ignored if and when it does not receive the necessary number of people signing and supporting it. If it somehow hits the press - which is entirely possible because of its high level of strangeness - something like this could seriously harm all of the fine research being done in the UFO/UAP research community.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Alfred Webre claims he is the founder of EXOPOLITICS. I suggest you would have to be very careful, there are 1.9 billion Muslims who will have their own interpretation about Theological/Political relationship with these other worldly beings.

    Of course, appointing one extremely mythopoetic person without serious evidence as a representative for humanity is not the way to go. Popular interpretations are not what we are striving for. According to experiencer reports, different UAP intelligences may have indicated to experiencers that some are indeed associated with each other but we still don't understand this clearly. And for the most part, they seem to contact whomever they wish, some as "prime contactees" and others as hybridization and run-of-the-mill" experiencers.

    It is a complex situation. According to Mary Rodwell children seem to be taught on board and so on. But UAP/UFO explorers will have to contend with the mythopoetic tendency prevalent in enthusiastic people that begin to open up to these issues. We need to keep things as evidentiary as possible.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Oh wait ... it's not Webre. I actually thought Mr. Courtney Brown of the Farsight Remote Viewing Institute is now Earth's representative. At least that is what he claims and (kind of) 'acts' to be.




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    Military and spy agencies accused of stiff-arming investigators on UFO sightings.

    Some military and spy agencies are blocking or simply ignoring the effort to catalog what they have on "unidentified aerial phenomenon," according to multiple current and former government officials. And as a result, the Biden administration will likely delay a much-anticipated public report to Congress.

    The Senate Intelligence Committee has asked the director of national intelligence to work with the Defense Department to provide a public accounting by June 25 on unexplained sightings of advanced aircraft and drones that have been reported by military personnel or captured by radar, satellites and other surveillance systems.

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    Great thread and totally support disclosure but if I may throw a monkey wrench? Disclosure needs 2 important benchmarks to meet. A Decree by POTUS to remove the subject of UFOs & alien life without releasing national security details and to allow people that signed non-disclosure agreements to come forward and speak. The second point is that POTUS or VP needs to be read into all tax payer funded secret black projects. When that happens there will be no hiding the general knowledge we are not alone.

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    Last night Chris Mellon was on the Fox's Tucker Show.

    More details about the forthcoming report from Senate hearings in June.

    Tucker is critical and frustrated with these affairs an asks the pertinent question
    Why haven't we heard about this all before? Chris Mellon explains the historical situation.
    Mellon doesn't counter Tucker regarding other world vehicles.

    https://twitter.com/jeff5647a/status...271121409?s=11

    Video 1 of 2 pic.twitter.com/jbuQu9XtDA

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    Former Intel Head Confirms Multiple 'Difficult To Explain' UFO Incidents
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    Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti discuss new UFO sightings.



    Also see
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8vTDpVoLHeI
    Posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1418530
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    This interview of Rubio is well worth watching. Jump to about the 3rd minute into the video. I picked up three takeaways from that interview:

    1. The report will not be completed by June 1, which I don't think is a surprise to anyone. But it is nice to see that the national media is pushing them on this report with an expected completion date.

    2. A couple of times Rubio notes that we need to "try and figure out what these things are". This may indicate that he has been told in debriefs that we have no idea of what these UAP are or their origin.

    3. It is also good to see him note the stigma involved in the subject and that we need to ignore the stigma and figure out what's over our military facilities.

    I also like that she brought him on not to just talk about UAPs but other topics as well. This helps legitimize the UAP discussion and it makes it more likely that he may talk off the cuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBaPSLmx964

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Dark Journalist reveals quite a lot about all this--Rubio and the current situation regarding disclosure, etc. in his latest here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vTDpVoLHeI

    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    This interview of Rubio is well worth watching. Jump to about the 3rd minute into the video. I picked up three takeaways from that interview:

    1. The report will not be completed by June 1, which I don't think is a surprise to anyone. But it is nice to see that the national media is pushing them on this report with an expected completion date.

    2. A couple of times Rubio notes that we need to "try and figure out what these things are". This may indicate that he has been told in debriefs that we have no idea of what these UAP are or their origin.

    3. It is also good to see him note the stigma involved in the subject and that we need to ignore the stigma and figure out what's over our military facilities.

    I also like that she brought him on not to just talk about UAPs but other topics as well. This helps legitimize the UAP discussion and it makes it more likely that he may talk off the cuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBaPSLmx964

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Dark Journalist reveals quite a lot about all this--Rubio and the current situation regarding disclosure, etc. in his latest here:
    Yes, great stuff. The part about Rubio begins around minute 34, but start around minute 22 to get the context.

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    Interview with Lue Elizondo on Vechten met Moszkowicz (Netherlands) broadcast channel 31 March, 2021

    Former national director of AATIP Lue Elizondo shares NEW bombshell details on the UAP / UFO encounters by American armed forces. NEW details on what kind of signal data of UAP's was observed by AATIP. Elizondo talks for an hour about his experiences while being head of AATIP, the pentagons top secret ufo research program on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. Why the fighter pilots ufo footage was exposed to the general public through the New York Times. NEW details on what it is that makes UAP technology much more advanced than modern human technology. NEW information about foreign governments research on UAP/ UFO encounters and the worldwide pattern of UAP's visiting nuclear army bases around the world, shutting down nuclear warheads. Elizondo elaborates on the behaviour of the UAP's/ UFO's, where the possibly could be from and what they want.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Just following on from your post Mojo some further thoughts

    The Shift

    Due to official evidence brought forth since 2017 to the general public and to the U.S. Congress by members of To the Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, ufologists, contact experiencers, and people in general that understand that our planet is indeed being frequented by NHIs are gaining more respectability. Hopefully, they may again receive more support from yet another official recognition that such a presence might indeed be among the valid possibilities behind the UFO phenomenon.

    A report from intelligence agencies about UFOs is going to be given to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee in late June, 2021. How much will it be revealed is unknown. However, reasonably speaking, this and the possibility of future congressional hearings on UFOs (also now more technically known as UAPs) should not just promote the legitimization of ufology and of NHI-related contact experiences, but also greater worldwide interest and a worldwide conversation about what it may all mean.

    Multidimensional Thinking

    Comprehensively adapting to a more complex, multi-level of reality (that relates physical as well as psychic and ‘paranormal’ phenomena) and to the need for a more inclusive ethics of inner higher-dimensional connections will require major corrections and enhancements to our worldviews.

    What Else May Happen?

    Hopefully, under the request of a few nation-state members, the United Nations will activate decision 33/426 and - at the very least - establish a UFO research office. There is a concerted push that this may happen.

    Thus, in many ways, Disclosure/confirmation of the NHI presence will be an extremely challenging, collective growing up. Moreover, it will require the active promotion of international trust and learning to live with the NHI presence under well-balanced and practical international agreements.

    The ontological shock of knowing that other intelligences are on the planet interacting with us, that there may be – for the most part - little we can do about it (besides some spiritually-related forms of claiming our spiritual sovereignty), that we may have been involved with them for eons, that understanding their organization principles may be necessary to think differently and develop a viable society with related technologies is unparalleled.

    Incorporating multidimensional thinking in our cultures, involving psychic and paranormal functioning, spirituality and consciousness as we aim to reorganize ourselves is daunting. And all of it happening along with the urgent need to solve the snowballing ecological crisis and the need to come together to create a healthier economic and political system. Such troubles should slap us out of our cynicism and business-as-usual complacency.

    The challenges of admitting the NHI presence are truly immense, almost chimerical, and they amount to a great taxing of our human nature or, perhaps, may require its - artificial - modification and/or an unprecedented actualization of its potentials. However, there seems to be no way to avoid facing this situation if we want to continue and prosper.

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    Quote should not just promote the legitimization of ufology and of NHI-related contact experiences, but also greater worldwide interest and a worldwide conversation about what it may all mean.
    wonderfully said...

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Its certainly heating up! The giggle factor is no more. We're in the phase now of not only recognizing the existence of UAP, but they are seriously considering that its extraterrestrial intelligent civilization around the Earth. This is a paradigm shift in the making. According to Chris Mellon whom is in the know, he has already indicated that when the report comes out its going to be a massive shift for our society.

    The Washington Post. The Perspectives column

    Daniel W. Drezner. "Yes, this is being published on April 1. No, this is not a joke column"

    Some quotes from by Daniel W. Drezner. Daniel W. Drezner is a Professor of International Politics.

    If UAPs are extraterrestrials, however, this is a different scenario: It is not humans contacting extraterrestrials but rather those extraterrestrials actively observing us. Furthermore, they seem to be doing so in a way that is not destructive.

    Furthermore, it might be better for U.S. national security if these UAPs turn out to be ETs. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) told the New York Post, “Frankly, that if it’s something from outside this planet — that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or the Russians or some other adversary that allows them to conduct this activity.”

    And if those UAPs are ETs, maybe there is more hope for interstellar relations than either scientists or science fiction envision.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...ut-ufos-again/

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    Black Vault's John Greenwald interviews James Woolsey, retired Director of CIA.

    Although the core subject is on the JFK assassination it unexpectedly goes into a discussion on UAP

    Starts at 35:00 mins, however, there is a hidden gem inside it around 43:00, when Woolsey mentioned something curious reported by pilots of " intelligence" planes. Although we all have heard about reports from USAF, US Navy pilots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQF4QzUX9M&t=2118s

    https://www.theblackvault.com/docume...sination-ufos/

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    Robert Powell on the Science Behind the Nimitz UFO Encounter.

    The case has become legendary.

    Complete with numerous witnesses telling compelling stories, and yes, even this video that the US Navy calls “unidentified” – the Nimitz Encounter continues to fascinate and intrigue anyone with an interest in the unknown.

    But what is the true science behind what we know? Some know the facts; few dissect the science. Robert Powell has done just that.

    Robert Powell, who co-authored a 270 page scientific breakdown of findings relating to the Nimitz event, is here to share what they found.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndbYAxejdjE

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    https://www.theblackvault.com/docume...skOnxPv0POkB5U

    https://www.mysterywire.com/ufo/myst...gLJFBDa6SWiuUo

    Preliminary analysis of images

    1. Images show it's out of focus craft , plane or drone, not a triangle or pyramid..Optical aberration. When you watch the full video clip it passes 2 stars in upper left and all were pyramid looking ...now if these were all stationary pyramid crafts at that latitude why hasn't the Navy didn't not have a plane in the sky.

    2. Very unfortunate in many ways but still doesn't say much anyways. Its a complete entire fiasco of the pyramid UAP which is absolutely false 100 percent and amateur Navy personnel using out dated NV device by Digiscope with camcorder.

    So I can only suggest it was his personal device. if The Pentagon is entrusting a movie director to disseminate this information , we already know what to expect in the future another 2 decades of misleading , misinformation ..let's just hope it's public disclosure of videos and photos etc.

    3. The video js simply amateur video in someone's cheap NV gear set up and optical aberrations occur all the time when out of focus, the NV video js simply aberration and is very similar set up using Digiscope method and it produced triangles when out-of focus ..and this is all we are seeing..The pictures are the worse blurry whatever.

    4. Conclusion: With all due respect, I looked at the different videos and we should take them with a grain of salt. All we have to go on is Jeremy Corbells words that the Navy has reported that these were used in training videos: "However, Gough refused to confirm whether they remain “unidentified,” or are used as training material for identifiable objects, or remain unknowns. " Why won't she confirm if they are real or not, very suspicious and so they could be bogus and used to train people how to identify real anomalies.

    Jeremy Corbell sits talking to the other 'UFO experets' with a picture of Bob Lazar on his poster board which doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence. I took a screen shot of a couple of the images and they could easily be fakes as all we have is mysterious people reporting information with no documentation to back them up.

    They could even be Navy personnel playing tricks on Jeremy or some others. One image looks to me like a close up of an insect and the other two like a bird splats on a window. The pyramid video could easily be faked with a stationary objects and moving the camera at different angles to simulate motion. Maybe the're real, maybe not, but there is a lot of arm waving about all the technical data they have but they present none of it except the video and images. We need to be skeptical until there is real evidence to back things up. There is so much faking and bogus nonsense that it is prudent to be skeptical until till we have solid evidence. That is a factual and also scientific attitude requirement.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    With all due respect ...
    Is This Pyramid UFO just Bokeh?

    "It moves like a plane, it flashes like a plane. But if it's a plane then why does it look like a "pyramid"? Well, if it's a bit out of focus, it's possible for a (camera) effect called "bokeh" to make a small distant light (like a plane, or some bright stars) look like triangles. I'm not sure this is what it is, but it's a possibility!"

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