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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Chris Melon and Sean Cahil (retired US Navy Chief Master at Arms) talks
    to Chris Cumo.

    https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...k-in-politics/

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Chris Mellon and Sean Cahill (retired US Navy Chief Master at Arms) talks
    to Chris Cuomo.

    https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...k-in-politics/

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    I watched the CNN piece, just a few minutes. So, so dreadful. Anyone who's studied the real history of Ufology for more than a few months will be able to see what's seriously wrong with this media-massaged picture.

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    I suggest those interested in Disclosure in PA to listen to Victor Viggialini POST 60 Minutes discussion with Steven Bassett. This is a totally different perspective on the political chess game of Disclosure and what the POST DISCLOSURE World might look like.

    https://anchor.fm/zlandcommunication...on-UAP-e112uea

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    And I listened to that, too. Well, kudos to Steve Bassett. He's a good politician, and of course that's how come he's managed to stay afloat all these years, despite significant obstacles and hardships.

    These hearings are what he's literally dedicated his life to. And in this presentation, he makes a very good fist of explaining how the puppet show must play out. (And a puppet show it is, of course.)

    In my posts above, I expressed my own personal distaste for the puppet show. The scripted theater. The public, poker-faced pretense that things are so very different from the very well-known truth.

    But I do [kind of!] understand that this is what it really needs to be, the only way out of the corner that the US Agencies and Military (and maybe MJ-12 — anyone remember them?! ) have painted themselves into. I don't like it, and I wish I lived in a different world, where truths could be spoken and apologies made, with good people being respected for that courage.

    But political humans aren't like that. They're game-players. And they play the odds, very often safely backing the horse that's in front. And in so doing, they play safe with their own reputations and careers.

    And — remember?? This is so often clean forgotten — TTSA itself was formed after Tom DeLonge went to the Pentagon with his wild proposal, and some specialist groups there started to realize that maybe they could use this populist musician guy to help them get out of their corner.

    Then they loaded TTSA up with people with resumés who would add gravitas, and all this time Lou Elizondo has been doing and saying exactly what he's been told to.

    Because it's all been wargamed out already.That's what's been happening. I'll stake my entire reputation on that.

    I'm certain.

    So now, the Pentagon will get their way. There will indeed be some kind of 'Disclosure', but as we can see already, it'll be very partial, and — it seems — someone extremely senior in the Pentagon or beyond is allowing all this to happen having obtained the guarantee that the ETs are presented to the world as a likely threat.

    That's part of the deal that was made. And whether they agree personally or not, everyone involved is going along with that simply because Disclosure of any kind at all, they believe, is better than none. So everyone is complicit in this. Everyone. Even George Knapp. He knows all this.

    That's the origin story for ALL of this. The Pentagon was driving it all from the beginning. Bookmark this post, and in a few months' time, maybe read it again and see.
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Bill very good comments and observations. the best lie to tell is one of partial truths. Its a great way to say and cover yourself for the perhiperal flack returned . Its why drills always accompany an event.
    god its all so tiring.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Former President Barack Obama on Monday offered a blunt assessment of the videos of unidentified aerial phenomenon that have continued to gain attention in the United States.

    "What is true, and I'm actually being serious here, is that there is footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are," he said.

    Obama's comments add to the growing legitimacy of the reports of the unidentified phenomenon and the government's awareness of them at high levels.

    Appearing on "The Late Late Show with James Corden" on CBS, Obama offered some levity on the question of aliens and his personal curiosity before assuming a more serious demeanor.

    "We can't explain how they move, their trajectory," he said. "They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so I think that people still take seriously, trying to investigate and figure out what that is."

    The U.S. Navy has for years confirmed the legitimacy of videos from jet fighters that tracked unidentified objects, some of which moved in ways that aeronautics experts have struggled to explain.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/weir...ly-are-rcna963

    So for 8 years as president he covered up, ridiculed and dismissed the subject - and now we are meant to "Trust" their assessment when it comes !!

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Daniel Liszt nails it. Just the first few minutes is a good summary.


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    • 'Just disappeared': Veteran combat pilot describes UFO sighting
    CNN's Anderson Cooper talks to retired Navy Lt. Commander Alex Dietrich, a veteran combat pilot, about her report of spotting a UFO off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    • Something in the air: The increased attention to UFOs:
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    Good ole CIA man Anderson to help sell the messaging.
    I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

    The present as you think of it, and in practical working terms, is that point at which you select your physical experience from all those events that could be materialized. - Seth (The Nature of Personal Reality - Session 656, Page 293)

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    Good ole CIA man Anderson to help sell the messaging.
    Disgusts me to look at him

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    I have not read nor posted here in a good while, but now that we are approaching the advent of disclosure I want to be here. I am so glad that my past years were spent studying with Bill and Kerry on Project Camelot and Project Avalon. I watched all of the videos that were produced by their teamwork especially regarding ET. Some were exceedingly awesome, but all were informative and enlightening.

    The reason that I have not been here for several years is due to all of the political talk. It did not matter which side it was from, but it greatly diminished the value of the forum for me. I realize that the freedom that the forum allowed gave rise to this event, however it was presented that Bill started this forum to discuss the very many strange events that occur in our universe. That is why I visited here in the past years.

    Now, we are seeing the gates open up on disclosure. It is important that we give our views on the credible people as well as the non credible people so we can know who to trust. It is also important that we stay as unified as a people as possible. I am grateful to you all for the links, summaries and critiques of each one. And most especially, I am grateful to Bill and Kerry for schooling me on this major series of events that, as it is disclosed, will indeed change our world forever.
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    This Just In!

    Dr. Steven Greer talks about Daniel Sheehan & Luis Elizondo's cooperation lately, quite interesting actually.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)


    This Just In!

    Dr. Steven Greer talks about Daniel Sheehan & Luis Elizondo's cooperation lately, quite interesting actually.
    Normally I don't put much credence into Greer as I dislike his stance that all ET's are benevolent (he's also very high on himself and charges a fortune...but we won't go there). However, the above clip is rather interesting. I've seen tweets lately from various gov't officials trying to push ETs as an immediate threat to mankind. The above clip dovetails into that. I'll always remember what Werner Von Braun said to Carol Rosen decades ago about a fake alien invasion (Project Bluebean, if I'm not mistaken).

    Personally, I think they are pushing this as a distraction which will further push the Great Reset and as a distraction from the ballot recounts in some US states that could prove voter fraud (nothing to see here, folks), which also dovetails into the Great Reset if you want to get right down to it.

    Thank you for posting the above clip Rawhide. Much appreciated.

    Dave - Toronto

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    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)


    This Just In!

    Dr. Steven Greer talks about Daniel Sheehan & Luis Elizondo's cooperation lately, quite interesting actually.
    Normally I don't put much credence into Greer as I dislike his stance that all ET's are benevolent (he's also very high on himself and charges a fortune...but we won't go there). However, the above clip is rather interesting. I've seen tweets lately from various gov't officials trying to push ETs as an immediate threat to mankind. The above clip dovetails into that. I'll always remember what Werner Von Braun said to Carol Rosen decades ago about a fake alien invasion (Project Bluebean, if I'm not mistaken).

    Personally, I think they are pushing this as a distraction which will further push the Great Reset and as a distraction from the ballot recounts in some US states that could prove voter fraud (nothing to see here, folks), which also dovetails into the Great Reset if you want to get right down to it.


    Very, very interesting. It appears I was 100% right in my post here 2 days ago, where I wrote:

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Remember?? This is so often clean forgotten — TTSA itself was formed after Tom DeLonge went to the Pentagon with his wild proposal, and some specialist groups there started to realize that maybe they could use this populist musician guy to help them get out of their corner.

    Then they loaded TTSA up with people with resumés who would add gravitas, and all this time Lou Elizondo has been doing and saying exactly what he's been told to.

    Because it's all been wargamed out already.That's what's been happening. I'll stake my entire reputation on that.

    I'm certain.

    So now, the Pentagon will get their way. There will indeed be some kind of 'Disclosure', but as we can see already, it'll be very partial, and — it seems — someone extremely senior in the Pentagon or beyond is allowing all this to happen having obtained the guarantee that the ETs are presented to the world as a likely threat.

    That's part of the deal that was made. And whether they agree personally or not, everyone involved is going along with that simply because Disclosure of any kind at all, they believe, is better than none. So everyone is complicit in this. Everyone. Even George Knapp. He knows all this.

    That's the origin story for ALL of this. The Pentagon was driving it all from the beginning. Bookmark this post, and in a few months' time, maybe read it again and see.
    Well, read it again not in a few months' time, but just a few days.

    Now Greer is going public that lawyer Danny Sheehan — who understands all of this perfectly, of course — has reported that Luis Elizondo (a) confirms all I said above, and (b) is now being targeted by the Pentagon for going off the agreed script about the "threat". (And if he really is trying to stand up to them, then kudos.)

    Today, Elizondo is appearing live in a virtual conference hosted by Richard Dolan. Rich has said he will ask Elizondo all the hard questions. Let's see if he really does.
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Yes it’s exactly what I meant as well.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Today, Elizondo is appearing live in a virtual conference hosted by Richard Dolan. Rich has said he will ask Elizondo all the hard questions. Let's see if he really does.
    Thanks for the link.

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    I shelled out the $139 to go to the Dolan/Elizondo meeting today. The last part is Elizondo alone where you "get to ask him anything". That should be interesting. I will try and take some notes and post them.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    I shelled out the $139 to go to the Dolan/Elizondo meeting today. The last part is Elizondo alone where you "get to ask him anything". That should be interesting. I will try and take some notes and post them.
    Chris, do please see if you can record the audio, maybe even with a dictaphone, a desktop screen/audio recorder, or an app on your smartphone.

    I have no idea if Richard will release the conversation later (or charge for it!), but we really do need to know this stuff. It transcends anyone's personal intention to make money.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

    I was just reading basketball news and bumped into this:

    https://streamable.com/2wbk06 (not sure if this can be embedded)

    Jimmy Kimmel talking to Shaquille O'Neal (today?) about UFOs. O'Neal admitting he is a believer and sharing his personal experience.

    This is getting serious. They are pushing the agenda to the masses without hesitating anymore. Phrases by Kimmel like "I feel like it's not getting as much attention as it should" is classic manipulation.

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    At his virtual conference yesterday, Richard Dolan gave two presentations and interviewed Luis Elizondo. It was a virtual environment where you had an avatar and moved around a virtual conference room - rather gimmicky and annoying in my opinion, but it did allow Richard to make some remarks offstage to just a few people in the vicinity and I happened to hear it. He said that after this video came out, he talked to both Elizondo and Daniel Sheehan by phone (evening of May 19th) and both of them denied Greer's allegation that Sheehan made the condition that he would represent Elizondo "only as long as he told the truth." Dolan said that these remarks were "defamatory" and when he asked Sheehan about them: "Danny did not agree."

    I made lots of notes and will rewatch the parts I missed (because of the annoying interface would not work properly and also crashed) and post them here. I certainly hope Richard will make these presentations public domain, especially the second one where he proved inconclusively, that defense corporations have been re-engineering crash retrieved materials and created a breakaway civilization.

    As for Elizondo, I am convinced that he is for real, that he really wants disclosure, and that he is trying to say as much as he can without loosing his security clearance. If there are people who want up the "alien threat" agenda to build up the military even further, he is not one of them. At one point, Elizondo said that he was religious, but stated that it was science and not religion that informed how he understood this phenomena. However, there is a group of people who in the Pentagon whose religious views do dominate the understanding of this phenomena and they are interfering with it. At that point, Dolan asked if he was talking about the "Collins Elite" and Elizondo retorted "That's exactly who I am talking about."

    I was hoping to get some good notes from Elizondo's talk but it is hard to bullet point what he said, because he was walking a thin line between telling us what we want and need to know, and not violating his security clearance, and his answers were very convoluted, although it was clear he really wanted to communicate as much as he could. One thing I can say is that he has a genuine outrage about the illegal secrecy that is taking place and really believes that the disclosure of what we know about E.T. and what we have learned technologically, could greatly benefit mankind and bring about a new age.

    Also, he pretty much stated that he is an experiencer, without stating this explicitly. He said of AATIP, that you could not just join it, that they had to find you. Later someone asked him about how and why AATIP found him, and without saying this explicity, insinuated that it was because of some experiences he had.

    If Elizondo is a CIA agent with a dark agenda, then he has to be one of the greatest actors on the planet. The next person I would like to see vetted in a similar manner is Chris Mellon.
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: heating up to some kind of 'disclosure'

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    If Elizondo is a CIA agent with a dark agenda, then he has to be one of the greatest actors on the planet...
    He is exactly THAT. The best actors/liars are NOT in Hollywood or Broadway. The best "actors" are recruited by the counterintelligence community. By his own admission, Elizondo served in CIA COUNTERintelligence. It is in his job description. His job was to deceive the enemy, to LIE to other spooks. He has to be a master of lies. I would not trust him selling me a piece of gum, let alone disclosing the UFO reality that was kept hidden for 70 years by the very organization that employed him. And also, please don't be naive there is NO such thing as "former" CIA, let alone former CIA counterintelligence officer.

    Did Richard or anyone during the Q & A ask him the following questions:

    1. Do you currently work for the CIA? If not, have you been recently reactivated?

    2. Was the TTSA created as a front for pushing the ALien threat narrative?

    3. Are you officially not part of TTSA? and Why?

    4. Why the TTSA is in so much debt?

    5. Why 80%-90% of members of the TTSA are CIA employees? Are they really FORMER CIA employees?

    6. Are the creation of the "UAP task force" as well as the recent sudden shift in the MSM attitude towards the UFO subject, part of the preparation of the masses for "9/11" style Alien Invasion scenario?

    7. Why was the term UFO changed to UAP?

    There are so many more questions to ask. Was Elizondo asked any of those questions directly and if so, what were his answers?

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