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    I often think of the following scenario;

    Imagine a handful of people found a primitive tribe deep in the jungle and unaware of modern tech. And this handful of people brought to this tribe for the first time, a tv , radio, electricity , a gun etc.
    Two scenarios could occur
    the small group , with love, could bring the tribe up , educate them and teach them the way of this new tech , or
    the small group, with ego and hate, could see an opportunity to play god, lord over them with majic , creating fear and division in order to dominate ,hold power and rule .

    which person are you?

    and which people are running our show?

    and thats why they are running our show .

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    I think the main issue Doug is not a matter of tech but a matter of spiritual/personal development.
    Not quit so easy to amend or is that what already happened way back before, Gods from the skies ?


    Quote which person are you?

    and which people are running our show?

    and thats why they are running our show .
    I have no desire to be God or dictate.
    I have desires to learn and illuminate others.

    Power hungry people are running this SHOW
    They running it because they are power hungry.

    Well the ones from our family are the power hungry but in the long run we will see they are not running the show and will get put in place I'm sure.
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    sunny side. "
    I think the main issue Doug is not a matter of tech but a matter of spiritual/personal development.
    Not quit so easy to amend or is that what already happened way back before, Gods from the skies ?"/

    ~

    yes agreed. perhaps I wasnt clear. I too do not believe its only about tech. what I was expressing is that we either see things as opportunities for our ego to take over and reinforce separatness to hold advantage or we see an opportunity to share for the benefit of all.

    Many would see sharing intelligence as with those not in the know as blowing a great opportunity. And these people tend to be the very people that rise to power. Becuase they crave power and control at the cost of others.

    and this is a hallmark of the human being since the beginning. whould you share your rich hunting spot with another tribe? maybe you and I would, but for the most, NOT

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    Hmm yes Doug we are doomed
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    And this brings us back to those that have decided tech is NOT the way to go, and they have apparently, and "Supposedly" stepped back to a more traditional way.. (a simpler way) of living, giving up the tech, the weapons, and the fighting which supposedly cost them their planet....

    So what do we do knowing both sides? Or the potential?

    perhaps it is an individual choice when living on this planet?
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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    About Steven Greer..

    I do appreciate the work that he has done thus far, but I find many areas where he may be mistaken... And the first, and most important is that all ET must be peaceful, or "NOT HOSTILE" because, as he says, if they were, we would have been gotten rid of long ago...

    I disagree wholeheartedly with this. Why? Because a hostile species, or group, does not necessarily mean a stupid or ignorant species. Or factions thereof. Greer is constantly complaining we have the tech to have free energy, yet we are not allowed to have it, to "Keep the rich, rich"... ..

    Absolutely... This is Greer's big error ... By his own logic the Aliens working with the secret government cannot be good , because they could give free energy directly to the people , and not allow the US military to sequester this technology for their own use ...

    But we are forgetting one of the founding principles of thruther understanding .. that the ET's were here thousands of years ago passing themselves of as "Gods" enslaving us , breeding with us and manipulating our genetics ...

    Zachariah Sitchin , Erick Von Danican , Michael Tellinger and many others established this beyond doubt ...

    David Icke went further and said they never left , went underground and left an elite bloodline to rule over us , which they secretly helped to stay in power as long as they follow orders from the ET's ..

    These elite humans still control the world today , they are the super wealthy , Rothschilds , Royalty and others ...puppets of the ET's ..

    These ET's believe they own this planet and us and would never allow any friendly ET's near , they would blast them ....

    As for technology... Some reliable sources think technological advancement inevitably leads away from 'spirituality' .. just look at people with their faces stuck in their smart phones ! ..And look at me typing a keyboard , when I could be looking into someone's eyes and interacting!
    The first thing technological civilizations do is extend their lives ... It is said that the Annunaki who enslave , us live on average a million years , and this has lead to their decent into depravity ...On death we return to the light .. get a Divine perspective before reincarnating ... Without constant return to the light , the incarnated soul can loose clarity and become depraved.

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    This maybe off topic a bit as is felt compelled to add a personal perspective..tho it has been touched on by some on the thread that i have great respect for and gained over the years.

    also wouldnt blame those reading this to doubt..as i have always been as honest and open about my journey as possible..Xconvict,,junky drug dealer..all around bad dude..was a bad dude..dark world i traversed for many a years..seen things done things that i will carry with me to through and of this current life.

    Its a wait to carry,,and dont take for granted..so judgment is a part of it that i wouldnt hold against anyone..

    What compelled me to write was The DOOMED part and tech and a few other things mentioned and discussed.

    I Did have contact with the Operators of some of the tech we have been observing and had very up close contact with the crafts more than once.On the ground and very close to the surface hovering.I could go into detail tho choose to not go there anymore..

    The Contact and the tech left me traumatized for some time..it has taking years to process and find meaning that i could convey in any way that would make since to someone else..

    Why would they want us to have there crafts and the energy source to drive them?..the engery source and tech that moves them would make splitting the atom and then in turn turning that into weapon of unfathomed destruction seem like childs play compared to the tech involved and used to move said UFOs..that we would turn into a weapon at some point if not already.

    The so called down loads i was given...were not downloads...it was information already there in the hard wire of my dna..info we all share from the past present and future..our history as a race passed on into the collective for hundreds of thousand of years..longer maybee..our story as a race..still carrying on and still being told..we are NOT doomed by the very fact i am sitting here writing this..that the story.. our story survived despite everything.

    disclosure by the ass hats is never going to happen in a honest and clear healthy good way..

    The ass hats came a calling after my contact..harrassed me and my family..hacked and stole things from my laptops..broke into my home to take or damage cameras and so forth..

    they are not good people just doing there jobs.

    UAP...Bull crap.

    the contact has evolved tho its stayed the same if that makes any since..there were never any word or phrases exchanged..

    For example only..take it for what its worth..

    2018..summer...mid August..5 or 6 pm.

    Smoke on the horrizon due south miles away when me and my family seen it..i knew without Thinking to go see what it was..

    My wife traced the source and we pulled up in the middle of no where on a back country rode..Pulled over and we all got out went to the edge of a large field Full of deer...hundreds of Wild deer..more Wild deer in one place than i have ever seen..we came to the the edge of the field and Stood with all them deer..some of em would just stare at us..not running away and some stood looking at a large fire in the back of the field several football fields away at the edge of a tree line.

    We all stood watching The fire and watching each other until about Dusk..and the fire went out..they began to disperse and we got back in the car and went home.

    wife asked me what it meant...

    I told her were still in trouble ..big trouble..tho there was still much HOPE.

    That was there message from the start..and still is..

    that hasnt changed.

    Good Et or Bad Et..i have know way of knowing really...

    pretty open on that end..

    as far as The ASS HATS pushing the UAP agenda...

    well....



    thanks for letting me share..

    Great thread to..

    William.
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    Human life is hard. It shouldn’t be that way .

    People coming from outside of your perspective whether they’re human or not may be good or bad influencers.

    It’s not easy to accept that this world won’t change and advance to greater understanding that easily. Because human life is short and hard.

    Let’s remember the lessons ..


    The closest workable option we have, I believe , is return to your original, individual , undivided self and find out “where are you going”.
    What’s your own genuine perspective, perhaps “you can’t tell”.

    I know I can’t always tell but deep inside we all know much better.


    Sometimes, I really don’t know why talking anymore. Heard it all. It’s not going to get better any soon ..

    But you know, we live in timeless reality.


    Imagine that time wasn’t an issue.

    In timeless reality everything g eventually happens as it should.


    You and I return to our Source Intelligence .


    Don’t get scattered around the planet ( like me recently) or worse, don’t break yourself to pieces because this world is hard like all the stone blocks and we can’t go against it.

    If you happen to want to go against it, pick a nice solid wall and sit in front of the wall like Zen Masters do 🌈 and see if you are actually able to pass through the hardest element all by yourself.

    There is more ancient meaning to starring to rock than the art of meditation itself or quieting your mind, the original meaning.

    Say one day a “door” opens in the wall of your consciousness and you may actually enter another world.


    We are all wonderful beings with multidimensional abilities who should not be turned to animals, slaves and drones

    and though they’re trying so long now to subdue the masses , all with the help of digital programming, consider your own worth please 🙏



    Maybe there are no bad ETs but there are people who got the message wrong and pretend to be “them”.


    They want to teach us to “dissolve ourselves”, to “free us from the suffering”, no I don’t believe it’s a good idea. We are doomed to suffer quite a bit as a matter of human life and understand our suffering is part of it all.

    Don’t believe in any good looking nonsense and what anyone has said. When the positive change comes, we all know ..
    we would feel lighter, less mad and far more sentient to others.


    Truth is ..we are all good ...we just need to understand even our selves better





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    Quote Posted by william r sanford72 (here)
    This maybe off topic a bit as is felt compelled to add a personal perspective..tho it has been touched on by some on the thread that i have great respect for and gained over the years.

    also wouldnt blame those reading this to doubt..as i have always been as honest and open about my journey as possible..Xconvict,,junky drug dealer..all around bad dude..was a bad dude..dark world i traversed for many a years..seen things done things that i will carry with me to through and of this current life.

    Its a wait to carry,,and dont take for granted..so judgment is a part of it that i wouldnt hold against anyone..

    William.
    Really appreciate your authenticity and honesty

    as for judgment?

    if anyone does? it speaks more of them, and not of you

    it is NO ONE's place TO judge you

    what you have done were ONLY "choices" made at some point in time and space

    it might be of interest to ALL to understand that ANYONE given:

    YOUR EXACT genetic disposition
    EXACT experiences of life
    EXACT perspective and so on?

    would have made the EXACT same choices

    and i mean ANYONE

    so ...

    the cool thing about choices, is that you can ALWAYS make another one ... a different choice

    it was an experience

    and there were lessons inherent as there are in ALL experiences

    it served you somehow ... it provided a unique perspective experience that since there has NEVER been "another" YOU?

    THAT experience
    from THAT perspective
    with THOSE feeling, thoughts
    THOSE choices that are ONLY yours?

    has NEVER been had before, nor will EVER be had again .... by ANYONE ... just YOU

    and even YOU? ... have changed, evolved, new thoughts, experiences, beliefs, perspectives

    even YOU duplicating the EXACT SAME actions and all else that comprised THAT experience?

    would have a DIFFERENT one now

    YOU? are NOT .. THAT "You" any longer

    so ... WHENEVER you are ready? ... you CAN "release" it

    the thing to remember is that the "past"? ... has existence ONLY in the mind

    MIND ... can be our Master or our Servant

    and AGAIN, the choice is ours

    what i find is that:

    we are "encouraged" to REMAIN "stuck" in a past that has ceased to be


    sometimes replaying it over and over which creates several issues

    one, it strengthens the receptors in our brain that are "reinforced" EACH time we utilize them

    when WE reinforce a belief or pattern that doesn't serve us?

    this has a VERY negative impact upon us as it strengthens in power EACH time it is reinforced

    it is WHY i SILENCE ... with vehemence ALL who attempt to disempower others

    NO ONE who is benevolent or acting in "good faith" will seek to infringe upon another with messages that diminish them through mockery or ridicule and result in disempowerment

    EACH time we acquiesce to these? that pattern, proclivity increases until it appears almost beyond us to overcome and reclaim our power

    we must learn to identify them AS the saboteurs they are, and DENY those that seek to drain us of our power

    the thing to remember is that our power CANNOT be "taken" from us

    but we CAN succumb to persuasion to relinquish it

    we must STOP allowing others to "review" us

    it is a TOXIC programming we have all been subjected to

    it is TOXIC because it demeans us

    it puts the opinion of another about us ~ ahead of ours

    which becomes an ACT of RELINQUISHMENT of our power

    there is but ONE voice we MUST listen to and whose "Review" is essential

    OUR own

    and ANYTIME we place ANYONE else there?
    (put another "god" before us)

    indeed, it is like a "mortal" sin

    that inflicts a "mortal" wound upon our psyche

    leaving bits and pieces of our soul behind


    YOU deserve YOUR own allegiance


    i once heard said that our most sensitive souls had succumbed to addiction

    that makes sense ...

    so does the desire to CONTINUE to dull the pain and feelings

    there is another path > to turn and face them

    to say .. what was done? is DONE

    what happened? HAPPENED

    TODAY > i begin anew

    and TODAY? i choose to honor ME

    the TRUTH of my BEING and my SOUL

    and i will place NO "other gods" before my own Soul

    again, its ALL choice

    ONLY choice

    and each new moment affords us an opportunity to make a different one

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    Quote Posted by oz93666 (here)
    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    About Steven Greer..

    I do appreciate the work that he has done thus far, but I find many areas where he may be mistaken... And the first, and most important is that all ET must be peaceful, or "NOT HOSTILE" because, as he says, if they were, we would have been gotten rid of long ago...

    I disagree wholeheartedly with this. Why? Because a hostile species, or group, does not necessarily mean a stupid or ignorant species. Or factions thereof. Greer is constantly complaining we have the tech to have free energy, yet we are not allowed to have it, to "Keep the rich, rich"... ..

    Absolutely... This is Greer's big error ... By his own logic the Aliens working with the secret government cannot be good , because they could give free energy directly to the people , and not allow the US military to sequester this technology for their own use ...
    it is NOT his "Error"

    it is outright deception

    Bill posted here (and i as well here) recently posted this video HE made back in 2007 and in it CLEARLY demonstrates he was/IS well aware that there ARE

    "negative" ET's

    (i HIGHLY recommend viewing this video in full as it answers many questions)


    it is of note that at the time that Greer got "struck" with an aggressive cancer as did Congressman Steven Shiff and Shari Adiamak CSETI? AND William Pawele,.

    of the FOUR? only Greer "miraculously" survived to sing another tune "ALL ET's are Positive"

    personally, his credibility was shot when i saw this short video back when he still held a political position in England




    for me? a life lived in deception, of compromise, inauthenticity
    to KNOW and think ONE thing but say something else instead?

    would NOT be "living'
    but an "existence"
    and one of being in hell at that ..
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    Quote Posted by iota (here)
    it is NOT his "Error"

    it is outright deception ..
    Well.. you may be right ... I tend to the theory people like Greer and Simon Parkes are mind influenced/controlled ... Parkes does seem to believe in his own story , it does make sense , he has said in a video the the mantids who he works with have a goal to repopulate the Earth with mantid/human hybrids! It's just that SP is mind influenced to think that's OK!

    As for your other video ...sure , chips with everything. My understanding is we all have ingested mind control chips , the 5G network sends messages which these chips decode into a form accepted by the unconscious mind.. covid vaccines will deliver more of these chips for greater control ... virtually invisible alien tech ...

    So politicians will get suggestions that encourage overreaction to the virus ,implementing lockdowns etc ... SP and Greer will be given their own mind influence messages ...

    Not everyone falls under the spell , just like with hypnotism some are more resistant , these people will have to be taken out , cancer or whatever ....

    Someone like Greer will be much more convincing if he actually believes his own message .... MK has come a long way since the 60's

    EDIT ... reading your post again I think you maybe confusing SP with Greer. The guy in your second video is Simon Parkes
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    Another excellent talk by Daniel Sheehan



    Two points I found particularly interesting:

    20:52 - Shehan talks about how U.S. government may have used private corporations to profit off the UFO phenomena. He specifically mentions Brown Brothers Harriman (affiliated with the Bush family and the Dulles brother). He is confused by the name, but I think he is refering to Yamashěta's gold here.

    43:00 - The NGR (National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency) has the intelligence files on the Roswell incident. [The NGA is the fifth largest intelligence agency within the United States government, and unlike the CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA (Defense Intelligence) and ONI (Naval Intelligence), yet hardly anyone has heard of it or written about it.]
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    Quote Posted by agape (here)
    human life is hard. It shouldn’t be that way .

    People coming from outside of your perspective whether they’re human or not may be good or bad influencers.

    It’s not easy to accept that this world won’t change and advance to greater understanding that easily. Because human life is short and hard.

    Let’s remember the lessons ..


    The closest workable option we have, i believe , is return to your original, individual , undivided self and find out “where are you going”.
    What’s your own genuine perspective, perhaps “you can’t tell”.

    I know i can’t always tell but deep inside we all know much better.


    Sometimes, i really don’t know why talking anymore. Heard it all. It’s not going to get better any soon ..

    But you know, we live in timeless reality.


    Imagine that time wasn’t an issue.

    In timeless reality everything g eventually happens as it should.


    You and i return to our source intelligence .


    Don’t get scattered around the planet ( like me recently) or worse, don’t break yourself to pieces because this world is hard like all the stone blocks and we can’t go against it.

    If you happen to want to go against it, pick a nice solid wall and sit in front of the wall like zen masters do 🌈 and see if you are actually able to pass through the hardest element all by yourself.

    There is more ancient meaning to starring to rock than the art of meditation itself or quieting your mind, the original meaning.

    Say one day a “door” opens in the wall of your consciousness and you may actually enter another world.


    We are all wonderful beings with multidimensional abilities who should not be turned to animals, slaves and drones

    and though they’re trying so long now to subdue the masses , all with the help of digital programming, consider your own worth please 🙏



    maybe there are no bad ets but there are people who got the message wrong and pretend to be “them”.


    They want to teach us to “dissolve ourselves”, to “free us from the suffering”, no i don’t believe it’s a good idea. We are doomed to suffer quite a bit as a matter of human life and understand our suffering is part of it all.

    Don’t believe in any good looking nonsense and what anyone has said. When the positive change comes, we all know ..
    We would feel lighter, less mad and far more sentient to others.


    Truth is ..we are all good ...we just need to understand even our selves better





    🌟
    thank you!

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