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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Here's an article from The Guardian newspaper in the UK which contains some very good statements that point away from foreign technology being the explanation (I'm aware these will be mentioned in other articles too)

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...perts-reaction

    "China has well-documented issues with basic jet engines, they rely on espionage to develop their most advanced weapons systems. So, I struggle with China having developed this. Russia has a defense budget that is a fraction of the United States, and much of its military infrastructure is crumbling so I struggle with that too. So if it is China or Russia, then that’s extraordinary. I don’t know how they did it, and it would be a monumental failure of intelligence collection on the part of the United States, orders of magnitude worse than 9/11." - Marik Von Rennenkampff, Pentagon and State Departments Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation Analyst

    "If a foreign power had technology that could operate that fast, take turns that aerodynamically really shouldn’t be able to happen, that we would see that in operation during a conflict. And if a foreign power was actually testing really hi-tech equipment, they would be testing hi-tech equipment in a protected area of their country that the United States or other foreign powers couldn’t see. If you get something that secret that can work that well, you’re not going to show it to anybody until you absolutely need it." - Jack Weinstein, Boston University International Security Professor and former US Air Force Lieutenant General

    This will become the main go to argument for skeptics going forward from this so I feel it's statements like these which are extremely important.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    What if it had already happened? Look at the number of population as it 'exponentially' increased after 1950 or so... what about that, compared to the previous decades, centuries and so on.. Yes.. The modern tech allowed it, but.. but but.. Chicken or egg?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Just a few comments here.
    1. Yes, it was a nothingburger. In his pre-release half hour podcast posted here by Kryztian yesterday, Grant Cameron got it all exactly right.
    2. It does seem to dilute the chances of an 'alien invasion' scam. If that were anywhere on the cards, the 'threat' narrative would have been hyped up far more.
    3. If this was all a movie, what would happen next would be a strong formal disclosure of the alien presence from Vladimir Putin.
    Yup Bill a Nothingburger
    But I'm still think an 'alien invasion' could be on the cards.
    If there is anything substantial they want to destroy (thinking back to the twin towers), it will be blamed on ET's and or break away's, then a call to war
    Tired

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Iran has been keeping quite?

    Wasn't they, a few years back saying they had such tech ?
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    As we all had expected it was a "9 pages off a nothingburger" thanks to DJ.

    Not being a Nazi,but events play out as appropriate.
    They will play their game at the time Covid scare as long as they can.

    Carrol Rosin (Werhner von Braun)statet that the last trick was an Alien invasion.

    When will that be ?
    1 years from now, 5 or 10 probably a 100 years from now
    it will probably never happen in your lifetime.

    Timelines may crash with idiotic mindsets at hand,but we will prevail!
    Last edited by Rawhide68; 26th June 2021 at 14:13.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    French government report has just come out at the same time as the US one.

    The French government report has significant in depth analysis on the characterization of UAP as compared to the preliminary very basic, 'still confused' US report. The US should be embarrassed with there preliminary UAP report, as if it was a new found discovery to take notice of now. Look at the French one!

    64 years of UFO research by CNES, a French group involving reports from 56 countries. This research is one of many sources proving that the UFO/UAP issue is a worldwide phenomenon.

    It contains 251 military and 233 commercial pilot reports that form the bulk of the 600 plus cases in their research.

    https://collective-spark.xyz/french-...over-64-years/

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    ICER POSITION STATEMENT FOLLOWING THE RELEASE OF THE DNI PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT REPORT ON 25 JUNE 2021

    Dated: 26 June 2021

    With the publication of the highly anticipated DNI Preliminary Assessment on UAPs, the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER) is pleased the summary document acknowledges that only one of the 144 military cases collected between 2004 and 2021, have been identified.

    The report indicates that at this stage more data is required to establish what UAPs are.

    ICER agrees and encourages more detailed investigation/analysis of the scientific data produced from these and future UAP events.

    ICER also agrees that it is important to standardize the reporting procedures across the US military services in an effort to acquire uniform data.

    The subsequent statement made by Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby that followed the release of the nine-page summary marks a significant moment in UFO/UAP history, as it finally recognizes that these objects are real, are operating near sensitive military installations and some of them appear to exhibit advanced technology beyond anything yet developed. This marks a sea change in attitudes and is long overdue.

    ‘To that end the Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks, has directed the Office of the Under Secretary for Intelligence and Security to develop a plan to formalize the mission currently performed by the UAPTF’.

    In line with the comments made by Senator Marco Rubio published ahead of the release of the summary document on 25 June 2021, he makes it clear that this is only the first step in what will be an ongoing policy of research into the UAP phenomenon.

    ICER believes the UFO/UAP subject has finally come of age, and it encourages full transparency on the topic moving forward and seeks the release of data for independent private scientific research.

    ICER also calls for open public hearings on the subject of UAPs where military witnesses in particular, can be provided with "immunity" to allow them to speak openly about their personal experiences with the phenomenon.

    ICER encourages that all relevant parties work together for the greater good of establishing the truth about these craft.

    ICER is confident that the more scientific research is undertaken, the data will ultimately confirm that Planet Earth is being engaged by extraterrestrial/non-human intelligences.

    Dr Roberto Pinotti

    President of the International Coalition for Extraterrrestrial Research

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Just a few comments here.

    1. Yes, it was a nothingburger. In his pre-release half hour podcast posted here by Kryztian yesterday, Grant Cameron got it all exactly right.
    2. It does seem to dilute the chances of an 'alien invasion' scam. If that were anywhere on the cards, the 'threat' narrative would have been hyped up far more.
    3. If this was all a movie, what would happen next would be a strong formal disclosure of the alien presence from Vladimir Putin.
    Wouldn't a better way to insert an alien threat narrative have been to do exactly as they have done, simply planting the seed? Overplaying that would have invited alien motive analysis (with no official declaration of hostility encountered, a big hype may not have produced the desired outcome of the official narrative.)

    I agree, it does nothing to advance the scary "Project Bluebeam" (from memory, not sure that's right, but the alien invasion scenario supposedly from Von Braun), but all they really need to do is establish some sort of fuzzy "reasoning" (really, an emotional pill) to commit the US government into overtly spending trillions on space weaponry.

    We certainly know this isn't any sort of US military or government transparency, or benevolent disclosure. It does serve to fortify justification for further military/intelligence-industrial complex spending (as is their standard M. O.) As revealed in "The Princeton Report", US citizens have literally zero input on US foreign (or domestic) policy, so I take this as an announcement of yet another boogeyman that the US military needs to protect us from, and that they will allocate the (US taxpayer) funds, regardless of US citizen opinion. They're just telling us what they are going to do, not asking us for permission to do it.


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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    French government report has just come out at the same time as the US one.

    The French government report has significant in depth analysis on the characterization of UAP as compared to the preliminary very basic, 'still confused' US report. The US should be embarrassed with there preliminary UAP report, as if it was a new found discovery to take notice of now. Look at the French one!

    64 years of UFO research by CNES, a French group involving reports from 56 countries. This research is one of many sources proving that the UFO/UAP issue is a worldwide phenomenon.

    It contains 251 military and 233 commercial pilot reports that form the bulk of the 600 plus cases in their research.

    https://collective-spark.xyz/french-...over-64-years/

    aoibhghaire
    Actually, this was released back in 2012. I remember Linda Howe did a Phenomenon Radio podcast about it a few years ago. It's very comprehensive!

    Here's the whole thing:

    https://projectavalon.net//NARCAP_Fr..._IR-4_2012.pdf


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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Thanks Bill for clarifying the dates.

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    Thanks aoibhghaire
    The research you have done, amazing !

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    UFO Report Provides No New Information But Plenty Of Fodder For Cold Warrior Policymakers
    JUNE 26, 2021
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    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/06...-policymakers/

    "The Office of the Director of National Intelligence has released its hotly anticipated UFO report, which at nine pages in length with no new information is about as spectacular a letdown for UFO enthusiasts as you could possibly get. It does however contain multiple lines which will likely be useful for cold warrior policymakers going forward, just as we forecast earlier.

    In summary:

    The ODNI says there do appear to be unidentified objects in US airspace behaving in ways the government can’t yet explain.
    No direct mention is made of the possibility that these objects could be extraterrestrial in origin.
    Direct mention is made of the possibility that UFOs could be highly advanced Russian or Chinese technology.
    UFOs “pose a hazard to safety of flight” and could be a national security threat.
    Those last two points are the only ones which US policymakers of any significance are going to pay attention to.

    “UAP [Unidentified Aerial Phenomena] clearly pose a safety of flight issue and may pose a challenge to U.S. national security,” the report says. “Safety concerns primarily center on aviators contending with an increasingly cluttered air domain. UAP would also represent a national security challenge if they are foreign adversary collection platforms or provide evidence a potential adversary has developed either a breakthrough or disruptive technology.”

    “UAP pose a hazard to safety of flight and could pose a broader danger if some instances represent sophisticated collection against U.S. military activities by a foreign government or demonstrate a breakthrough aerospace technology by a potential adversary,” the report adds.

    “Some UAP may be technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity,” it also says.


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    UAP REPORT: RUBIO FULL STATEMENT: Rubio is the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-FL)
    Kellie Meyer
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    NEW: @marcorubio statement on UAP REPORT:

    Calls the report "an important first step."

    Adds "the Defense Department and Intelligence Community have a lot of work to do before we can actually understand whether these aerial threats present a serious national security concern.”
    3:17 PM · Jun 25, 2021
    While the authors of the report also say they “currently lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary,” the fact that Russia or China magically leapfrogging US technology by centuries seventy years ago has been validated as a possibility by the report is a gift to cold warriors eager to ramp up aggressions and inflame a high-budget arms race against those nations.

    Among those cold warriors is Senator Marco Rubio, one of the handful of individuals behind this strange new UFO narrative’s entry into mainstream attention. Rubio released the following statement shortly before the report was published:

    “For years, the men and women we trust to defend our country reported encounters with unidentified aircraft that had superior capabilities, and for years their concerns were often ignored and ridiculed. This report is an important first step in cataloging these incidents, but it is just a first step. The Defense Department and Intelligence Community have a lot of work to do before we can actually understand whether these aerial threats present a serious national security concern.”

    As I’ve been saying repeatedly, the odds of this new UFO narrative entering mainstream consciousness courtesy of the Pentagon, military/intelligence operatives, and corrupt warmongering politicians at the same moment the US begins implementing a new cold war against Russia and China is far too convenient for mere coincidence to be a likely explanation. We can expect to see the hawkish agendas of warmongers like Marco Rubio further advanced by this new UFO narrative going forward.

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    • US pilot talks about UFO incident ahead of landmark report:
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Here is a one-page follow up to the report from to the report from the Deputy Secretary of Defense.


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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    In the mean time, we are all wasting precious time and effort on yet another diversion. Whatever it takes to keep us busy with meaningless and trivial squanders.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    I tried hard to stay aside of this discussion,but after all that I read regarding what now is called uap and the report release of which as always I didn't expect,as usual,at to much from the "officials" this is my view about "their" "report" and all possible follow-ups conclusions (the following two videos are two chronological sequences from the movie Burn after reading).

    Burn After Reading - No Biggie


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    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    The UAP (UFO-USO) Report released by US Department of Defense (Pentagon) End of June 2021 could easily be made in just 1 day if you have a team of people (specialists) working on it ... we could do the same 10 times more ... "imagine if you have a team of people working 6 months (= 182 days!) on it" ... obvious they desperately want to control the narrative ... hijack the UFO narrative for future "purposes" like False Flag Operations?

    After researching UFOs for 31 years organizing several (sold out) UFO Conferences, gave dozens of UFO lectures, writing many UFO articles and being on Local, National & International TV discussing UFOs... to me this "UAP Report" is an obvious insult to ANY intelligence and a pathetic attempt to summarize a much more complex issue... and as usual the Mainstream Media mostly only asks soft-ball questions ... not asking the right hard questions.

    On a positive note ... common (intelligent) people tend to ridicule less now ... and may be inspired to dig much deeper it to the subject and trigger 1000s of new UFO lectures & New UFO Documentaries world-wide due to more leaks and more insiders coming out.

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    UAP Task Force Report: Here's how the world reacts, ICER No. 2

    On June 25, 2021, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in the United States released a long-awaited UAP Task Force report.

    Although it was shorter than expected, many U.S. mass media outlets reported on it. But what was the reaction in other countries?

    That's what is talked about with representatives of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research from 14 countries.

    For more information, visit there website: https://icer.network

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FzQXiUW3Nk

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    Following on from post 277

    The reaction around the world particularly in Asia to the DoD REPORT

    Vietnam Zing news

    https://zingnews.vn/tinh-bao-my-lan-...st1231342.html

    The Greater India publication

    https://thegreaterindia.in/news/worl...-objects-news/

    Nikkei Asia reports.....

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/US-...-143-UFO-cases

    Indian report on Congress statement in The Hindu
    Evidence on UFOs 'largely inconclusive', says U.S. intelligence report

    https://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...le34997293.ece

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Experiencers is where this all breaks out from - sadly there are too many fabulists who exploit the vulnerable. In addition, there are far too many who are vulnerable to drawing conclusions which then either create or add to an existing "mytho/religious" paradigm... and many of these, though well-intentioned, spread their interpretations and conclusions which entrap more vulnerable.

    Oh, I long for when humanity understands that from the depths of our own human nature, we are meaning makers at heart. I find this trait to be super helpful on a personal level yet I also find it best to keep my own personal myths to myself.

    Lessons learned by this reformed megalomaniacal, narcissistic, messianic-complex-driven being named Chester this time 'round.
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Steven Greer's response, published yesterday (27 June 2021):
    The DNI Report on “UAPs” : UFO Coverup 2.0

    The DNI report on so-called UAPs (a made-up psy ops name created to obfuscate the truth…) is, as predicted, the usual US government cover-up, but with a twist. Since the mid-1940s, the US government (and others) have simply denied the significance of the subject. Via Project Blue Book, the Condon report and other operations staged to give the appearance of a real investigation, the government has simply denied the matter is “real” or of significance. This time, in UFO Cover-up 2.0, the DNI report calls for further “study”. Doubtlessly, this will be staged and a dog and pony show like the 1960s Condon “Report” during which professor Condon of the University of Colorado, was on the payroll of the CIA - and we have documents proving this.

    But this time, the so-called further investigations are beginning with one true premise and three huge lies:

    The true premise is that the UFOs are real, and not simply misperceptions of other known craft or phenomenon.

    And the 3 Big Lies:

    First: that we do not know what the UFOs are. But we do. A cursory investigation of existing evidence, testimony and so forth proves what Lockheed Skunkworks director Ben Rich concluded in 1986: That there are 2 types of UFOs “ours”, or manmade antigravity propulsion vehicles, and Extraterrestrial. Case closed.

    Second: That the US does not have any aircraft or technologies that can perform in the manner the UAPs do. This is simply a cover-up of the fact that since the mid-1950s Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPs) have had exactly such operational classified craft. These craft have been used in clandestine operations for 60 years, including the criminal staging of “alien” kidnappings and torture, also known as “alien abductions”. Such false flag operations have been confirmed by intelligence officials and by a 1980s CIA document (see The Cosmic Hoax, to be released soon).

    Additionally, the energy and propulsion technologies behind such man made UFOs, once disclosed, would lead to the end of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power and other current energy systems and begin a New Energy economy. While this would be the salvation of the earth and perhaps the long term prospects of humanity, this would spell the end of the corrupt global elites and oligarchs who currently run the planet.

    Finally, such a truthful disclosure would also expose the means whereby these same USAP-connected oligarchs could continue to hoax, and eventually convince the vulnerable general public of “an Alien Threat”. This hoax, which began in the 1950s, has been part of a long-term covert military strategy to unite the world, not in peace, but around a militaristic response to this hoaxed alien threat.

    Which leads us to the third Big Lie: That the UAPs are a threat to “national security”. What rubbish! If the ET threat was real, we would have known about it the day the first atomic bomb was detonated. As first CIA Director Roscoe Hillenkoetter stated in a letter, the SECRECY surrounding UFOs is a threat to national security – NOT the UFOs - except for the man made ones that are being used in false flag operations, deceiving even our top military officials.

    This Big Lie is central to the long term military strategy : Convince the world that we must be united, again not in peace and real unity, but against an external threat. The result: a global totalitarian super-state that unites the world against the “alien threat”, just as Werner von Braun warned.

    It must be remembered that those who authored the DNI report may be completely unaware of any of this. How? The nature of USAPs is that only those read into the project know of its very existence. I have personally briefed world-leaders, Ministers of Defense, a CIA director, the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Director of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff (J2), among others - ALL of whom had been explicitly denied access to these USAPs – if not directly threatened for even inquiring.

    Therefore, the current DNI may or may not have actionable intelligence or even effective access to these USAPs. Certainly, few members of Congress do - and the ones that do have agreed to the illegal nature of the USAP system. Now THIS is a national security threat, as the first CIA Director stated. The extreme secrecy and runaway nature of USAPs, which President Eisenhower warned us about, is the actual threat to national security - and to world peace.

    We must all unite to encourage our representatives and leaders in every country of the earth to avail themselves of the evidence and research of the Disclosure Project. Write them today! And we need more brave whistleblowers to step forward with detailed information about these illegal operations immediately. If you are such a person please contact us at SiriusDisclosure.com.

    It is time for universal peace, not endless war. It is time for a new world of clean, boundless energy and justice for all. It is time to permanently approve the treaty to ban all weapons from space - and preserve space for peace forever. This is our call to action - not the cul de sac of another staged fake government study with pre-determined conclusions designed to advance the criminal agenda of the secret-keepers.

    It is time for change, real progress and a new world in which the future of humanity is directed by peace and not endless war and lies.

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