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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    French government report on UAP 2021.

    TECHNICAL COMMISSION SIGMA 2 – Progress Report 2021 Summary

    This has more detail from the French government on UAP than the US report.

    Principles of exploration of new, unknown subjects, such as UAP by combining audacity and prudence, perseverance and modesty in the face of the difficulties encountered in terms of Scientific procedure. Indeed, prejudices or incredulity, skepticism oppose curiosity in the face of the unknown, and the absence of sufficient data is also one of the difficulties in moving from simple observation to knowledge, transforming Facts, in Hypotheses, then in Laws and finally in Theories.

    English-language summary (19 pages) of this French report at:

    https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link....c_id=4375&fg=1

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    https://projectavalon.net/2021144054...mmary-2021.pdf

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    Mick West has gone way over his head and just when you think he's said the stupidest thing ever, he keeps talking. The turning point within the UAP reality transition is that the skeptics will be left behind.

    Here follows the weakness and the turning point within the academic and scientific community known skeptic advisors to the US government.

    Unfortunately, in the scientific community we have hubris and human self-centeredness that have been fundamental barriers to clear thinking about the opportunities and risks surrounding the UAP. It’s been a case of extraordinary conservatism leading to extraordinary ignorance.

    The research of this problem within academic and scientific arena can be exemplified by Douglas Walton. His evidential research draws on everyday conversations on all kinds of practical matters in which the argumentum ad ignorantiam is used quite appropriately to infer conclusions. Walton makes an original contribution in the areas of argumentation theory and informal logic, contending that, despite its traditional classification as a fallacy, the argument from ignorance is a genuine, very common, and legitimate type of argumentation with an identifiable structure.

    https://medium.com/on-the-trail-of-t...d-1be22166b533

    Now we have another UAP basher from history UFO Skeptic Eric Weinstein now comes around.

    As reality intrudes, the cultural commentator and mathematician apologizes to the UFO community. Can his pal Sam Harris be far behind?

    Eric Weinstein has in the past heaped scorn on the UFO community. He still maintains some are “nutty,” but he now acknowledges there appears to be a “there” there.

    While we wait to learn who did or didn’t call Sam Harris about UFOs to help prepare the public for disclosure, one of the cultural commentator’s fellow so-called ‘Dark Web’ colleagues and friends, Eric Weinstein, appears to have had a Damascus-style conversion.

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    The SETI Institute has reacted to the DoD REPORT.

    The SETI Institute and its policy on UAP is similar in nature to the skeptics as to the mentality and perception. Read post 282.

    This has been a consistent problem. Unfortunately, the scientific establishment failed to recognize the UAP existence due to the debunking charade by government reports like Condon and Blue Book. These government reports were intentionally published to debunk the UAP issue because senior researchers couldn’t either integrate its reality and thereby setting an illusionary mental framework in the scientific arena.

    This led to over the decades no funding or grants for UAP research in particular, for departments of Astronomy, SETI and Astrobiology. The UAP taboo was left to an invisible college of independent scientists without funding. Leaving very few scientists operating under a cloak and dagger scenario, ducking and weaving from any exposure in case their careers and pensions were jeopardized. If the science community had recognized the UAP subject it would have saved 75 years delay.


    The SETI Institute has reaction to the REPORT

    https://www.calameo.com/read/0048123637a4a64903b14

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    The reaction to the DoD REPORT:

    According to John Radcliff UFOs exist that appear to display technology the United States does not possess and lacks the ability to defend against, according to the former intelligence chief.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...edgdhp&pc=U531

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    from: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=Argang17Aw4


    Quote The DNI Report on "UAPs" : UFO Coverup 2.0

    The DNI report on so-called UAPs (a made-up psy ops name created to obfuscate the truth...) is, as predicted ,the usual US government cover-up, but with a twist.

    Since the mid-1940s, the US government (and others) have simply denied the significance of the subject. Via Project Blue Book, the Condon report and other operations staged to give the appearance of a real investigation, the government has simply denied the matter is "real" or of significance.

    This time, in UFO Cover-up 2.0, the DNI report calls for further "study" . Doubtlessly, this will be staged and a dog and pony show like the 1960s Condon "Report" during which professor Condon of the University of Colorado, was on the payroll of the CIA- and we have documents proving this.

    But this time, the so-called further investigations are beginning with one true premise and three huge lies:

    The true premise is that the UFOs are real, and not simply misperceptions of other known craft or phenomenon .

    And the 3 Big Lies:

    First: that we do not know what the UFOs are. But we do. A cursory investigation of existing evidence, testimony and so forth proves what Lockheed Skunkworks director Ben Rich concluded in 1986: That there are 2 types of UFOs "ours" , or manmade antigravity propulsion vehicles , and Extraterrestrial. Case closed.

    Second: That the US does not have any aircraft or technologies that can perform in the manner the UAPs do. This is simply a cover-up of the fact that since the mid-1950s Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPs) have had exactly such operational classified craft. These craft have been used in clandestine operations for 60 years, including the criminal staging of "alien" kidnappings and torture, also known as "alien abductions". Such false flag operations have been confirmed by intelligence officials and by a 1980s CIA document (see The Cosmic Hoax, to be released soon). Additionally, the energy and propulsion technologies behind such man made UFOs, once disclosed, would lead to the end of oil , gas, coal, nuclear power and other current energy systems and begin a New Energy economy. While this would be the salvation of the earth and perhaps the long term prospects of humanity, this would spell the end of the corrupt global elites and oligarchs who currently run the planet.

    Finally, such a truthful disclosure would also expose the means whereby these same USAP-connected oligarchs could continue to hoax, and eventually convince the vulnerable general public of "an Alien Threat". This hoax, which began in the 1950s, has been part of a long-term covert military strategy to unite the world, not in peace, but around a militaristic response to this hoaxed alien threat.

    Which leads us to the third Big Lie: That the UAPs are a threat to "national security" . What rubbish! If the ET threat was real, we would have known about it the day the first atomic bomb was detonated. As first CIA Director Roscoe Hillenkoetter stated in a letter, the SECRECY surrounding UFOs is a threat to national security - NOT the UFOs- except for the man made ones that are being used in false flag operations, deceiving even our top military officials. This Big Lie is central to the long term military strategy : Convince the world that we must be united , again not in peace and real unity, but against an external threat. The result: a global totalitarian super-state that unites the world against the "alien threat", just as Werner Von Braun warned.

    It must be remembered that those who authored the DNI report may be completely unaware of any of this. How? The nature of USAPs is that only those read into the project know of its very existence. I have personally briefed world-leaders, Ministers of Defense, a CIA director, the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Director of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff (J2), among others- ALL of whom had been explicitly denied access to these USAPs - if not directly threatened for even inquiring.

    Therefore, the current DNI may or may not have actionable intelligence or even effective access to these USAPs. Certainly, few members of Congress do- and the ones that do have agreed to the illegal nature of the USAP system. Now THIS is a national security threat, as the first CIA Director stated. The extreme secrecy and runaway nature of USAPs, which President Eisenhower warned us about, is the actual threat to national security- and to world peace.

    We must all unite to encourage our representatives and leaders in every country of the earth to avail themselves of the evidence and research of the Disclosure Project. Write them today! And we need more brave whistleblowers to step forward with detailed information about these illegal operations immediately. If you are such a person please contact us at SiriusDisclosure.com .

    It is time for universal peace, not endless war. It is time for a new world of clean, boundless energy and justice for all. It is time to permanently approve the treaty to ban all weapons from space- and preserve space for peace forever. This is our call to action- not the cul de sac of another staged fake government study with pre- determined conclusions designed to advance the criminal agenda of the secret-keepers.

    It is time for change, real progress and a new world in which the future of humanity is directed by peace and not endless war and lies.

    Steven M. Greer MD
    Founder
    The Global Disclosure Project
    27 June 2021
    Washington DC
    www.SiriusDisclosure.com

    For more information see the documentary Unacknowledged and read the book by the same title . And see The Cosmic Hoax- An Expose

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    Pentagon Told to “Formalize” Its Investigation of UFOs, Possibly Expand UAP Task Force
    Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks Orders Pentagon to Provide UAPTF More Resources and Support.

    Christopher Plain · June 26, 2021
    https://thedebrief.org/pentagon-told...ap-task-force/

    Moments after the long anticipated UAP report was released to the public, the Department of Defense has been tasked to expand the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force’s efforts to improve their mostly inconclusive findings.

    A statement released by the Pentagon notes that report, and confirms that the analysis of UAPs is “a collaborative effort involving many departments and agencies, and the Department thanks the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for leading a collaborative effort to produce this assessment, as well as the other contributing departments and agencies.”

    That same statement confirmed the report’s findings, while also noting the challenges associated with assessing UAP occurring on or near DOD training ranges and installations.”

    The Pentagon echoed the report’s conclusion that “improvements in processes, policies, technologies, and training” will be necessary to “improve our ability to understand UAP.”

    To try to improve that understanding, the report suggests a “consistent consolidation of reports from across the federal government, standardized reporting, increased collection and analysis, and a streamlined process for screening all such reports against a broad range of relevant USG data will allow for a more sophisticated analysis of UAP that is likely to deepen our understanding.”

    In December 2017, the New York Times revealed that an obscure program under the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), had been quietly investigating reports involving unidentified aerial objects for a number of years. Since then the subject–more commonly known as UFOs–have increasingly become a topic of serious attention both in the public sphere, and in government.

    Full story with hyperlinks and images continues at: https://thedebrief.org/pentagon-told...ap-task-force/

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    For me - I have come to experience the enigma of Dr. Steven Greer's being and information as both informative / freeing and a rabbit hole.

    Greer has inspired me.

    Greer seems stuck within a paradigm of his own design (likely influenced by the matrix critters) where, whenever someone hangs it all out there such as he has and then establishes firm conclusions such as he has, these actions greatly reduce the chances they are capable of shifting their views.

    Greer was a gateway (one of many) for me. Greer can continue to serve that role for others that are at the 'baby-step' stages of awakening to "UFO Reality" (whatever that may actually be). Yet, I've graduated from 'the Greer Paradigm' some time ago and, looking back... am very, very glad a I did.
    Last edited by Chester; 29th June 2021 at 18:26.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    The reaction to the DoD REPORT:

    According to John Radcliff UFOs exist that appear to display technology the United States does not possess and lacks the ability to defend against, according to the former intelligence chief.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...edgdhp&pc=U531

    aoibhghaire
    Dont know anything about the credibility of this guy, but this starts to be quite frankly put disclosure real deal?

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    Richard Dolan on the UAP Report

    LEAKED info on UAP Task Force Report, plus talk on the Threat Narrative

    (I haven't listened to this one yet, but pretty sure this is on topic. Sorry Bill, no channeled information here )

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    Screen shot from Richard Dolan's presentation. This is the leaked info he received one hour before he went live on this show posted above.

    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 30th June 2021 at 06:54. Reason: enhanced the image a little for easier reading

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Richard Dolan on the UAP Report

    LEAKED info on UAP Task Force Report, plus talk on the Threat Narrative

    (I haven't listened to this one yet, but pretty sure this is on topic. Sorry Bill, no channeled information here )
    Please do listen. It is very sad. Very very sad.

    So much mental gymnastics and self-contradiction. It is like he is a different man.

    I used to have so much respect for him. I still do, but purely for the amazing "UFOs and the National Security State" books. This work is truly for the ages. But his analysis of the current situation is either ignorant due to lack of knowledge and/or understanding or intentionally ignorant. Both equally disappointing.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Screen shot from Richard Dolan's presentation. This is the leaked info he received one hour before he went live on this show posted above.

    Just a couple of comments here, one from Rich Dolan and another from myself.
    • Richard said that he has no knowledge of what "K-Song" refers to. (I've not heard of that either.)
    • The leaked text (which was sent to his personal source who then relayed it to him) states that "none of the experimental crafts have flown outside the Nellis Test and Training Range." I'm 100% sure that's a flat-out untruth.

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    Sorry Bill. I’m perfectly sure “they” are getting nowhere with the blown up nonsense “about ETs” above and continuing. Nowhere means it’s a joke on the “ufo community”.

    None of my material is “channeled material” and I am asking for even small rectification of the course “we are taking” with this though I’m perfectly no one to you.
    You had all the privilege of “knowing me better” through the 10 years I spent training my patience on this forum.
    Normal, decent people tend to do that.

    You did not really want to know me because you presumed “something” or because, maybe people keep sending you tons of musings and materials of little relevance,
    you are busy man - by your own choice - we all need to remember that 🙏


    I do not see any point in the “divide and conquer” of material in recent threads as requested by aoibhghaire and others, to any “insider” or knowledgeable person and I feel lots of anxiety and indecency while posting to “your threads” (?).

    Again, Mrs Aoibhghaire is NOT an insider of ET research community no matter how qualified her contributions are in this specific matter,
    the course of her and others research , passage that did not even start yet among the “science community” involved aggressively disregards the rest of us who have been in touch with “else” through out our life time.

    I’m not seeking either to offend and least to argue. But forgive me we all have the right to express our intelligence and knowledge freely and openly - as appropriate- without constant fear of bullying and reprimands.

    I won’t “ask you to move my comment please” and other such submissive, good feeling for you nonsense even if it “resonates” because it’s not true to me or ever were.

    I have never troubled you either with PMs, communication or arguments the years spent here as I would have considered that abuse of your authority.
    Also , no one has need to be belittled on behalf of their presumed nationality, achievements or lack of and since we never talked before Barry King shared the Bodhgaya report with you , neither I’ve ever talked to Kerry Cassidy before interview for Camelot was conducted putting myself to about 90% disadvantage against the rest of you ( and it’s not about self-pity), neither do I approach people or share information ANYWHERE , neither I talk behind your back, neither I engage in chit chat worth 2-3 year olds repeating simple things ad nauseam so no,
    there isn’t any way you could know me better.

    You could have asked for my certified CV, passport photocopy or photos from years and where I’ve been but no, you didn’t, silently presuming that we all are cheating and somehow “a bit fake”?

    Please do take this to your heart even a bit since I’m still member of the forum and plenty of materials buried down under ,
    I’m not asking for “attention”

    but I am asking for at least common respect and understanding.


    Years back we all read comments from various moderators and what’s been on the board behind our sight.

    Lots of lies, guesses and bad words included.

    Is it where we are again ? Like you can not evolve further, ethically ? I bet you did, you do and you can.


    There would be obviously ZERO need for THIS post if you’ve not labeled me previously, labels that do not match any sort of “reality”.

    And I repeat this second time and asking for some kind of smart redemption here.

    None of what I’ve shared anywhere on the board is or qualifies as “channeled material”

    and Mrs Aoibhghaire and others calling my encounter “the dream you had” is manipulative, dirty tactics that could only pass at dirty court of law of today, with lawyer being payed to take you down,
    only because the world “as if in dream” ( or something like that) was used by ME in the second sentence trying to describe my ET encounter in Bodhgaya 2002.

    I repeat this is not even logical to argue about, it is dirty manipulation in order to discourage people from even reading my report or interacting with me anyhow.


    My posting does have a point and every each of them: unless you ( or someone else in the back) were perfectly emotionally biased and trained in techniques of manipulation,
    the point is : there is nothing going to come out of this “military agenda” and presumption that ET is somehow trying to attack “your human civilization”.

    It is a show , it is known to end up in no point ( again) and is totally fake.



    Not sure what to say anymore but please - anyone on the moderators board- do not respond with anger or the intention to manipulate all of my contributions here further and use me as “clown” and laughing stock.

    It’s not helping you or others, I’m your friend and humanities friend, not an enemy.


    (?)

    Thanks 🕊
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    Quote Posted by holcaul (here)

    Please do listen. It is very sad. Very very sad.

    So much mental gymnastics and self-contradiction.
    Could you be more specific? Can you give some examples of where he contradicts himself? What do you think he is saying here that is futile or senseless?

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    Jeremy Corbell just dropped another piece of footage. Starts at 11:59.



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    ...

    ... for lack of finding a better thread for this video, here is David Adair recent video starting with his run-ins with various factions of the 1%ers"

    David Adair - The Twelve Sites on the Moon Where NASA Told Us Not To Go To! 2:01:01

    First published at 01:32 UTC on June 26th, 2021.

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    David Adair in Manchester, UK: Awakening Expo Anniversary (2019) Triple - Feature Release Special:
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    David Adair is an internationally recognized expert in space technology spinoff applications for industry and commercial use. At age 11 he built his first of hundreds of rockets which he designed, and test flew. At age 17 he won “The Most Outstanding in the Field of Engineering Services” award from the US Air Force.

    David describes the life of astronaut Neil Armstrong from a personal view as he was close friends with the Armstrong family, reveals some of the secrets behind the moon landing and those famous words as Neil stepped onto the lunar surface.

    David also discloses some of the incredible technology utilized by space fairing agencies, and what we can expect in the future.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by holcaul (here)

    Please do listen. It is very sad. Very very sad.

    So much mental gymnastics and self-contradiction.
    Could you be more specific? Can you give some examples of where he contradicts himself? What do you think he is saying here that is futile or senseless?
    Sure.

    I see the following as a self-contradiction. Others may say that it's just his unwillingness to make up his mind...

    “…we're talking about using US soldiers and sailors as unwitting guinea pigs for advanced technological tests of new gadgets… now this isn't to say that the US military hasn't done unethical testing of all different types on its personnel. It has. We know about this drug testing, for example, psychological mind control testing, yes even testing of bacteriological agents on the general population. Yes, I know about all these types of activities and more. But faking or spoofing UFOs to its own military forces… so look, it's not to say that it's impossible. It could happen, but just how realistic is that scenario…”

    His main defense of this position is that he hasn't found any documented evidence trail for these to be true. But at the same time, he berates "...folks who said they weren’t surprised...[regarding the emptiness of the UAP report]" by saying “…those people who always pretend that they know everything…”.

    Also, he mentions that no one is talking about the "UAP" phenomenon as a threat besides Elizondo and Mellon. Untrue, Leslie Keane and Nick Pope, the crowned "champions" of this phenomenon, specifically used the "threat" narrative in recent interviews with Tucker Carlson and other MSM platforms.

    Dolan goes into semantic differences between the words national security challenge vs threat (to me these don’t really sound different, especially when they come from politicians and military [the very same people that rebranded the term UFO to UAP]), and that these are not the same things but in the same breath berates the report for being written in a bureaucratic jargon that is designed to confuse and mislead.

    And there is much more.

    To understand what is going on here, right now with this "UAP" narrative being pushed, you have to look at it through multiple lenses. Ufology lens is not enough.

    Forgive me but I am not going to analyze further what I think is wrong with Dolan's views and argumentation in this video. He is a great UFO historian, but I disagree with his stance on the current events unfolding.

    I know it is an unpopular position. And that I am in a minority, but I am NOT in a minority of one.

    How dare I challenge the UFO researchers. I know what I am challenging here, I am challenging their life's work to uncover the truth about alien existence, and now that they're so close, now that they're getting something from the secret keepers, they are willing to close their eyes on obviously dangerous trends of this whole "disclosure".

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    Although 2.5 Hrs long, just drop in anywhere to find some interesting UFO stuff.

    Leading Australian mainstream journalist Ross Coulthart goes deep into the UFO mystery in this sizzling Project Unity interview with Jay.
    Ross believes the recent Task Force report is a drop in the ocean compared with what the US and other world governments, know.
    In this 150 minute marathon summary of Ross's new book In Plain Sight, he talks of crashed craft in the possession of the US, Russia and China in so-far unsuccessful attempts to back engineer their technology.

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    Since the REPORT came out last Friday, 25th June, there is even more developments that have come to light which reveal that within ninety days, the ODNI will update Congress on UAP and how their strategy on data collection along with their coordination with the DoD has progressed.

    https://www.theblackvault.com/docume...ithin-90-days/

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