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    Even the NY Times is skeptical about UFO disclosure:

    I Created ‘The X-Files.’ Here’s Why I’m Skeptical of the New U.F.O. Report.
    June 25, 2021
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/o...fo-xfiles.html
    By Chris Carter
    Mr. Carter is a screenwriter and director who created the TV series “The X-Files.”


    When we were dressing the original set for Agent Mulder’s office on “The X-Files,” I came up with the poster with a U.F.O. on it that reads “I Want To Believe.” And I think that’s where most people come down on the whole extraterrestrial business. Not quite there yet, but waiting for a sign. The universe is just too vast for us to be alone in it. Carl Jung wanted to believe, as did Carl Sagan. Both wrote books on the subject. Now videos from Navy aircraft tracking unidentified aerial phenomena (as they’ve been relabeled) suggest that maybe we have seen them. Based partly on the videos, a much-anticipated government study on the topic is expected to land in Congress on Friday. Answers are promised. But answers are always promised.

    I have never seen a U.F.O. or an alien, as much as I’d like to. But as a result of “The X-Files” I’ve met many people who claim they have. I have seen grainy videos of gray aliens on someone’s back patio. I know an award-winning movie director who told me straight-faced he’d seen a U.F.O. when he was in college. Annie Jacobsen, the author of the terrific book “Area 51,” introduced me to a man who worked at the top secret facility for many years who saw strange craft coming and going on the air base. For a decade I became a magnet for this stuff.

    The plot of “The X-Files” was built on a conspiracy theory: The government is lying to you about the existence of U.F.O.s and extraterrestrials. Do I believe the government lies to us? Absolutely. I’m a child of Watergate. Do I believe in conspiracies? Certainly. I believe, for example, that someone is targeting C.I.A. agents and White House officials with microwave radiation, the so-called Havana syndrome, and your government denied it.

    Will the new report, or any government report, give us clear answers? I’m as skeptical now as I’ve ever been.

    In 1996 I was invited to the clinic of the Harvard psychiatrist John Mack to witness the regression hypnosis of a self-professed alien abductee. I first met Dr. Mack, who studied and ultimately believed in alien abduction, when he came to Fox Studios to discuss his work. I had used a Roper survey he was involved in (a poll of 6000 Americans on their belief in the existence of extraterrestrials) to sell “The X-Files” as a TV show in 1992, and later read his book, “Abduction.” So I knew something about what I was going to see. I went in doubtful, unprepared for the drama of a woman sitting next to me in tears and in terror over the encounter with aliens that she described, on a beach in Mexico. The experience turned out to be powerful and not a little unsettling.

    Years later I attended a conference in San Mateo, Calif., which focused on a purported underground government program. Attendees believed that this program used, among other things, reverse-engineered technology from captured U.F.O.s to weaponize space. By outward appearances, these were respectable and accomplished professionals, including former government officials and lawyers. Some of them also believe that the military has hidden bases on the dark side of the moon and meet secretly there with reptilian aliens.

    This radical element has bedeviled high-minded “ufologists” for decades and colored the public’s perceptions of the phenomena. Many people are afraid to admit they believe for the real fear of being laughed at. (Fear itself may be the reason some of us refuse to believe that aliens exist at all.)

    We are living in times of uncertainty, where truth may be unknowable. I don’t have to tell you this has bred a universe of rampant conspiracy theories. From the Covid conspiracy documentary “Plandemic” to the idea that we’re living in a Black Hole created by the CERN’s Large Hadron Collider when we discovered the Higgs boson. Darin Morgan, a writer on “The X-Files,” calls this the “Post Conspiracy Era.” PoCo — the industrialization of conspiracy theories. Rigorous science and scientists are castigated and vilified. Rigorous journalism is decried as fake news.

    “The Truth Is Out There,” “Trust No One,” “Deny Everything” went the provocative catchphrases on “The X-Files,” but that was in the ’90s, when we had a relatively shared reality. The slogans are now a fact of life.

    In addition to the Navy videos, the reason U.F.O.s are getting their big moment is due to a bombshell 2017 article in this paper. The piece exposed a secret program inside the Department of Defense searching for the truth about U.F.O.s. The combined evidence has engendered the government’s imminent report.

    But for me, the report on U.F.O.s is already D.O.A. Advance word is that the report, ordered up by a bipartisan group of legislators during the Trump administration, will reveal nothing conclusive about U.F.O.s or their extraterrestrial origins. And the portions that remain classified will only fuel more conspiracy theories.

    This is X-Files territory if there ever was any. But it’s also cause for some important questions.

    How did the Defense Department keep a budgeted project — sponsored principally by Senator Harry Reid in 2007 — secret for 10 years? Why, when Mr. Reid sought even higher security — and asked to see physical evidence of U.F.O.s — was he denied? And why only a $22 million budget when looking for answers about sentient life visiting us from worlds far away? (That’s roughly the cost of three episodes of the Netflix series “Stranger Things.”)

    Ardent disbelievers have explained the latest Navy videos as tricks of the eye — even though the fighter pilots describe the U.A.P. in great detail as having no flight surfaces, no exhaust plumes, with the ability to perform impossible maneuvers at hypersonic speeds. This opposition, scientific and not, dates back to the 1940s, when pilot Kenneth Arnold saw nine “flying disks” over Mount Rainier.

    But the prosecution raises a good question: Where is the Deep Throat of the U.F.O. world? Why no credible deathbed confessions? As Nobelist Enrico Fermi’s famous paradox asked, if aliens are out there, why haven’t we seen them? Could the government actually be telling the truth? That it really doesn’t know what to make of the phenomena? Or is the truth above top secret?

    Curiously, Barack Obama, who once joked sarcastically about U.F.O.s on late night TV, is now admitting there are objects in the sky that can’t be explained. Even Donald Trump, under whose aegis the latest study was cooked up, admits there may be something to it.

    I think in all likelihood this report will come and go, and with it the mainstream chatter around U.F.O.s, until definitive proof is exposed. A planet that can’t come together on climate change or a global pandemic might not pay much attention even if wreckage or an alien corpse is discovered. The culture wars alone might eclipse it, so rabidly are we in their grips.

    But what if we had direct contact? With actual alien beings from an exoplanet who’ve traveled light years to seek us out? Who have answers to every question we’ve ever asked?

    The result would unquestionably change the course of mankind. But would it change us?

    I want to believe.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Incredible post, Kryztian.....

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    In the best sense of incredible I mean😁

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    UAPTF Report preliminary release.

    https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsro...rial-phenomena
    For those of you who regard the United States Government as a criminal enterprise that extracts wealth and blood from it's citizenry while crushing their souls, this report gives you absolutely no reason to change your mind.

    According to this report, the "UAP" events can be placed in one of five categories:

    Quote Airborne Clutter: These objects include birds, balloons, recreational unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), or airborne debris like plastic bags that muddle a scene and affect an operator’s ability to identify true targets, such as enemy aircraft.

    Natural Atmospheric Phenomena: Natural atmospheric phenomena includes ice crystals, moisture, and thermal fluctuations that may register on some infrared and radar systems.

    USG or Industry Developmental Programs: Some UAP observations could be attributable to developments and classified programs by U.S. entities. We were unable to confirm, however, that these systems accounted for any of the UAP reports we collected.

    Foreign Adversary Systems: Some UAP may be technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity.

    Other: Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them. We would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management.

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    STATEMENT OF SENATE INTEL CHAIR
    MARK R. WARNER

    ~ On UAP report ~

    WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-VA), Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, released the following statement upon the release of a congressionally-mandated declassified report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP):

    “I was first briefed on these unidentified aerial phenomena nearly three years ago. Since then, the frequency of these incidents only appears to be increasing. The United States must be able to understand and mitigate threats to our pilots, whether they’re from drones or weather balloons or adversary intelligence capabilities. Today’s rather inconclusive report only marks the beginning of efforts to understand and illuminate what is causing these risks to aviation in many areas around the country and the world.”

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    SEN. MARCO RUBIO STATEMENT ON UAP REPORT

    Miami, FL — Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-FL) released a statement on the unclassified report on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) issued by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

    “For years, the men and women we trust to defend our country reported encounters with unidentified aircraft that had superior capabilities, and for years their concerns were often ignored and ridiculed,” Rubio said. “This report is an important first step in cataloging these incidents, but it is just a first step. The Defense Department and Intelligence Community have a lot of work to do before we can actually understand whether these aerial threats present a serious national security concern.”

    In 2020, Rubio, as Acting Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, included report language in the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021 directing ODNI to submit a report to congressional intelligence and armed services committees on unidentified aerial phenomena.

    Office of Sen. Marco Rubio

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    My only editorial comment:

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    If UAPs (UFOs & USOs) are seen so so many times by multiple US-Navy personnel why do they not share 4096 × 2160p full color 4K UAP video footage's?
    • Even IPhones & Android Smart Phones can record 4K.
    Of all people in the Navy has no one a 4K camera (or higher?) ... or are they explicit forbidden to film them? ... Can these orders be reviewed? ... or is that also classified? ... Can it be declassified through FOIA-request? ... If not, than the whole UAP report 2021 is just a whitewash!

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    What a colossal waste. Just as expected.

    If this preliminary assessment, clearly not a “report”, is intended to disclose anything, I assign them an F. If it is intended to continue the cover up, I assign them a B.

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    Re-reading the report. Here is something I find quite curious:







    What do they mean by "a non governmental entity" ??? A entity that could produce technological vehicles that exceed what the U.S. or China or Russia could produce? Is there a group of people from companies like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, et. al. that have developed "break-away" civilization with it's own law, government, property, etc. that are behind this? Did Martin Borman and other Nazi's escape to Antarctica and build secret bases there to develop, manufacture and implement the technology that is now giving us the "UAP" phenomena? Are these the "Four Horseman" or four power groups that William Pawlec talked about about 20 years ago that control the development from "retrieved" materials"?

    Disclosure of a "non governmental entity" could be as big a deal as disclosure of an alien presence.



    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)

    William Pawelec Interview


    From Dr. Steven Greer's Sirius Disclosure

    Quote Mr. William Pawelec was a U.S. Air Force computer operations and programming specialist with numerous credentials in security technologies and access control systems. He gave this interview with Dr. Greer prior to the 2001 National Press Club Disclosure event and asked that it not be released until after his death. We recently found out that Mr. William Pawelec passed away on May 22, 2007 and we received permission to release it in December 2010.
    Published on Nov 23, 2015

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    The 9 page "report" alluded to above is that which was "unclassified." The report that the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence received was just under 80 pages and was (according to some folks I trust) about as impactful as the 9 page unclassified summary. One of my intelligence community sources told me the "The IC was barely consulted and had little input in the report."

    Did anyone actually expect more?
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Right to put 2 and 2 together, they save "alien invasion" until covid scare go away
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    "a non governmental entity" ??? or is it "a non-human governmental entity" or "governmental non-entity" or "a non making any sense entity" or "Orwellian entity governed by some with mental issues" ?

    Because everybody knows there are so many prosaic mundane entities that are not "governmental".

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    Is this what U.S. citizens pay TAXES for ?? Seriously ??
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Why do people put so much value in what the good old USA (corporation) has to say about UFOs ?

    They would say it was a security exercise if one was seen landing on the White house lawn, sad thing is many would believe them

    Just view all the other evidence from around the globe, much more credible.

    PS: If these (all) are private industrial machines/experiments, well then why hasn't the USA Gov just stepped in and taken them over, because the already sanction and or own them.
    They would have to say they have power and flight tech that would save the world.
    They not for you, me or the world to use.
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Just a few comments here.
    1. Yes, it was a nothingburger. In his pre-release half hour podcast posted here by Kryztian yesterday, Grant Cameron got it all exactly right.
    2. It does seem to dilute the chances of an 'alien invasion' scam. If that were anywhere on the cards, the 'threat' narrative would have been hyped up far more.
    3. If this was all a movie, what would happen next would be a strong formal disclosure of the alien presence from Vladimir Putin.

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    • George Knapp's initial reaction after reading the UFO report:

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    • The UAP Task Force Report: A Mystery Buried Amid the Jargon:

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    Greetings everyone.

    Today, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released the unclassified version of the famous UAP Task Force Report, officially titled “Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.” It’s dated June 25, 2021.
    The entire paper is just nine pages long, and that includes the title page as well as two Appendix pages, which add nothing to the report. So it’s essentially six pages. I suspect that everyone who reads this, including anyone from the general public who lack any real knowledge of UFO/UAP, will be extremely surprised at how threadbare this report is. Granted, we were led some time ago to understand it would be thin, to say the least. And I was certainly not expecting anything substantial at this point, but even so, I must say I was expecting more than six pages.

    Frankly, this report is an exercise in bureaucratic jargon, and the unclassified version at least clearly seeks to avoid providing much of any genuine information.

    However – and this is a big however – there are very interesting tidbits buried in here. And indeed, despite the fact that this report studiously avoids trying to make any conclusions about UAP, it contains a potentially provocative conclusion. The only problem is that you have to lift out a few statements that are scattered in different sections and piece them together.
    • Point number one. Although the authors do not point to any specific culprit as being the primary source of these objects, they do state that they found no evidence that any of these objects were U.S.-derived technology. Of course, we knew this in advance, more or less, from the various media reports that already came out.
    • Point number two. But there is something else. The authors found no evidence that any of these UAP (144 reports, incidentally) came from Russia, China, or any other foreign nation.
    • Point number three. Furthermore, the report also states that these UAP are for the most part solid, real objects and surely appear to be technological.
    • Point number four. It’s also stated that these objects have caused a fair amount of havoc during U.S. military exercises and a number of near-mid-air collisions.
    • Point number five. Some of these objects apparently are puzzling in their flight characteristics and not easily explainable.
    Each of these various statements are scattered throughout the report, easy for the casual reader to miss, typically buried within long-winded sentences and paragraphs.
    But this report, despite its skimpy nature, opens up a potential public relations problem. After all, if not U.S. tech (military or industry) and not a foreign nation, and they appear to be solid and technological, and they cause an air safety hazard and a potential national security “challenge,” and they sometimes exhibit puzzling flight characteristics, then what are we talking about?

    With that said, I’ll do a quick breakdown of the various (small) sections within the report, although it’s probably just as easy if you read the report yourself.
    First is the “Scope and Assumptions” section, which merely states that this report:
    “provides an overview for policymakers of the challenges associated with characterizing the potential threat posed by UAP while also providing relevant processes, policies, technologies, and training for the U.S. military and other U.S. government (USG) personnel if and when they encounter UAP, so as to enhance the Intelligence Community’s (IC) ability to understand the threat.”
    Presumably whoever wrote this run-on sentence failed English Composition 101. Aside from that, we learn that the purpose of the report is not to explain what these objects are, but merely to provide an overview of the challenges of understanding a potential UAP threat.

    In other words, there is no information in this report about any specific UAP/UFO event. This is important to recognize. There are no cases specifically described.

    Which means that for the general public, at least, there is no information upon which to gain a clear picture of precisely what was examined.

    The “Executive Summary,” provides a barebones summary of the following sections. But first, a disclaimer:
    “The limited amount of high-quality reporting on Unidentified Ariel Phenomena (UAP) hampers our ability to draw firm conclusions about the nature or intent of UAP.”
    Therefore, right away we see this report is not going to give us any firm conclusions about anything.

    We also learn that this report covers the years 2004 to 2021, and apparently really zeroing in mainly on the last few years, following the codification of UAP reporting procedures as indicated by the United States Navy in 2019 (although there is no indication about the nature of those procedures). So presumably they looked at the Tic Tac case but never mentioned a word about it. Or any other case.

    In this section, the report does state that:
    “most of the UAP reports probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors…”
    While the report emphasizes that there are probably multiple answers to the UAP reports it investigated, only one actual case seems to have an explanation at all (a stray balloon that was losing air).

    Two other statements are noteworthy. One is that UAP clearly pose a flight safety issue, and “may pose a challenge to U.S. national security.”

    The other noteworthy statement in the Executive Summary is simply a call for better and more streamlined processes to screen and process UAP reports.

    The next section, entitled “Available Reporting Largely Inconclusive” is perhaps the most interesting section of the report. Such as it is. Perhaps the most interesting piece of data we get is that there were 144 reports studied by the task force, all of which originated from US government sources. Of these, 80 reports involved observation with multiple sensors. Another interesting fact is that most of these reports were situations in which UAP interrupted preplanned training or other military activities.

    Precious few details. We learned that in 18 incidents, observers reported unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics. Some of these included the ability
    “… to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernible means of propulsion.”
    Apparently a small amount of data seem to show “UAP demonstrating acceleration or a degree of signature management.” Like everything in this report, the language is ultra bureaucratic, vague, and really forces you the reader to go through a process of translation from bureaucratese into ordinary English. But with a little bit of work we get the idea that some of these objects demonstrated extraordinary flight characteristics.
    And that’s essentially it for that section. No other real details to work with.

    The next small section simply states that most of these reports very likely have one of five possible explanations, although no numbers or statistics are provided. The categories are:
    • Airborne Clutter (birds, balloons, drones, etc.)
    • Natural Atmospheric Phenomena (ice crystals, moisture, thermal fluctuations, all very vague)
    • US government or industry developmental programs.
    This is interesting because I personally was wondering if they would include private contractors and the like, and apparently they are doing so here. The report does state,
    “we were unable to confirm, however, that these systems accounted for any of the UAP reports we collected.”
    It must be stated that this is not any kind of blanket denial that US technology is behind this. The report repeatedly emphasizes the lack of sufficient data, and does a consistent job of bowing out of any kind of conclusions. All they are saying here essentially is that they could not confirm that US technology was behind any of these reports. That essentially means nothing. They clearly were not ruling it out.

    I believe this essentially contradicts earlier news reports that indicated this report had ruled out U.S. technology as a potential source of these reports. If I am not mistaken, this was a statement by Luis Elizondo. But from how I read this report, no such conclusion was made. They simply found no evidence.
    Next potential category for UAP reports are:
    • Foreign adversary systems, in other words China and Russia, possibly another nation “or a non-governmental entity.”
    The last category of potential UAP sources is simply called “Other.” And no, not a single reference or even hint that this could refer to anything extraterrestrial. For the authors of this report, it simply seems to refer to anything that requires “additional scientific knowledge” to study.

    When you really read this section carefully, you find that it’s essentially empty of content. Even the title “UAP PROBABLY LACK A SINGLE EXPLANATION” gives me the impression that there was really no analysis performed. One gets the impression that they don’t even have an idea of what are the most likely explanations. Presumably the classified version of this report is a bit more sophisticated.

    A short section relating to flight safety threats and potential national security “challenges” follows. We learned that the task force collected 11 reports of documented incidents in which pilots reported near misses with a UAP. That is interesting.
    Under the subsection of potential national security challenges, we do get a very interesting statement. Easily lost in the shuffle.
    “We currently lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary.”
    And there it is. Obviously none of these conclusions are even remotely definitive, but I find it very interesting that the report seems provisionally to discount U.S. technology and foreign adversaries as the source of these UAPs. Any logical mind is going to wonder about the implication. If not U.S., if not foreign nations, what are we left with? The question is not even asked. The implications are buried within the mass of bureaucratic language.

    However, the report does state that a number of these UAP have been detected near military facilities or by aircraft carrying the U.S. government’s “most advanced sensor systems.”

    The final section is a call for more money to go into UAP analysis, standardization of reporting procedures, etc. It states that the ability to collect these reports was severely hampered in earlier years, and really only started to become halfway decent in the last few years, following the U.S. Navy’s reorganization of the reporting process.

    That’s essentially the report. Definitely a disappointment to anyone anticipating genuine data, much less images or video. But buried within this report, amid all of its qualifications, is the provisional conclusion that this phenomenon cannot be attributed to U.S. military or industrial technology, nor that of foreign adversaries. It furthermore states that these objects clearly appear to be solid and technological. You do the math.

    Obviously the point of this unclassified version of the report is to bore the public to death about UAP, because despite the interesting tidbits in here, there is nothing even remotely exciting about this. The report would make an excellent sleep-aid. But despite the best efforts of the authors, there is something to work with here. The phenomenon is real, it’s technological, it’s an annoyance and potentially even a threat, some of the objects operate in ways that seem difficult or challenging to explain, and none of the cases examined pointed to the U.S., Russia, China, or any other nation.

    My guess is that the classified version of this report will leak out soon enough. I have no inside information to that effect, just my best hunch. Someone will get the rest out to the public soon. Let’s see.

    Richard Dolan
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    cheers,
    John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
    June 26th, 2021

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

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    Just a few comments here.
    1. Yes, it was a nothingburger. In his pre-release half hour podcast posted here by Kryztian yesterday, Grant Cameron got it all exactly right.
    2. It does seem to dilute the chances of an 'alien invasion' scam. If that were anywhere on the cards, the 'threat' narrative would have been hyped up far more.
    3. If this was all a movie, what would happen next would be a strong formal disclosure of the alien presence from Vladimir Putin.
    Yup Bill a Nothingburger
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    If there is anything substantial they want to destroy (thinking back to the twin towers), it will be blamed on ET's and or break away's, then a call to war
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