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    There is a lot of quaking. But none explains why they dug on both sides of the bow. Its not even engineering its a simple common sense that a child could instinctively do correctly. If you want to get that boat out you only clear one side not both sides. because there is only one way to get it free. Its almost unbilievabe that despite being aware that science engineering and experts are normally corrupted and manipulated most people will still use them to make a point. so much so that they lost the capacity to use the imagination and instead rely on the corrupteds.

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Some interesting observations in this video. Only short, worth a watch I think:



    Of note...

    The incident with the sister ship
    The matching of the container patterns to the DNA breakdown of Sars Cov 2
    The excavator to ACE 2 0 this seemed like a stretch to me, but the cover of the Economist often seems to have the inside track...
    The green to the Wuhan games ceremony and the IPetGoat2 sequence however seemed like astute observation.

    Sadly I think this sort of interpretation more likely than the white hats ambushing the black hats narrative...

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    Quote Posted by Journeyman (here)
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Now they are digging the bank to insert the bow of the ship further while the small ship on the fore is pushing it further in. If they have to dig a constant pulling must be applied to prevent the bow from going in further. They are doing the opposite. Its a clear sabotage to me.
    ... and clearly none of the many teams of global marine salvage experts who have been looking closely at this situation for days have realized that!

    Well said Bill. This is indeed another thread that brings out all the armchair experts! Who needs teams of experience marine salvage specialists when some Joe Blogs posts his expert advice?
    Indeed.

    Something out of the ordinary happens and makes the news: "Rothschild/Illuminati did it!"

    If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....it's usually a duck. People need to remember that accidents and other messy anomalies just happen in life, not EVERYTHING is always some intricate plan.
    That's true and you're right to raise the banner of scepticism and not rushing to judgment, but we also live in a world where plans are hatched and executed and sometimes those plans may involve staging accidents. I agree there's a danger of reading too much into things, but there's also a danger of reading too little. I think for a long time we (as a society) have been guilty of the latter, blithely believing the 'party line' on anything and everything and silencing any dissenting voices by ostracism or ridicule. Both positions are no substitute for taking each incident on its merits.

    If we examine this incident, we had an initial 'duck' explanation 'sandstorm and high winds' that was swiftly accepted and disseminated via the media. Many people will have seen that initial explanation and that will form their opinion from here on out. I found out that the local weather didn't support that explanation from reading posts from other individuals who have learned not to accept things at face value and guess what, they've now changed that explanation in the msm reporting.

    There's a lot more sketchy aspects of this, that doesn't mean that the alternative explanations are correct and there are likely more forces at work in any case than just the Rothschilds, but whether there's the 'coincidental' Evergreen truck blockage in China or the 'unfortunate accidental' drawing of a rude symbol in the vessels movements prior to entering the canal, this duck appears to be miaowing, has 3 legs and an elephants trunk.
    Where would the forum be if some of us didn't jump to a conclusion that fitted some sort of conspiracy narrative!

    When sh!t happens the media scurry about for anyone who will supply some sort of explanation - without even doing a basic fact check, like confirming weather/wind in this case. These 'facts' get repeated and circulated until the real facts are revealed after proper analysis of the events. Then of course it generates a fertile ground for yet more conspirational stories where none exist; "Why change the story? Why wasn't this reported at the start? Who is manipulating the narrative?"

    We distrust MSM for good reason, but many of us seem to accept alternative narratives without doing some basic fact checking, or even just exercising a bit of critical thinking.

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Indian crew of the Ever Given face ARREST as Egyptian authorities probe crash that blocked the Suez Canal for a week – amid fears they will be made 'scapegoats' for the chaos.

    The pilots and crew onboard the massive container ship that blocked the Suez Canal could face arrest and be 'made scapegoats' for the incident as investigators continue to search for the cause of the grounding that strangled global trade.

    Union officials fear the 25-man Indian crew onboard the 220,000-ton Ever Given, which found itself wedged across the crucial waterway in Egypt last Tuesday, will fall under increasing scrutiny from the Suez Canal Authority, with claims that the workers could soon be placed under house arrest until the investigation is completed.

    Egyptian maritime officials are expected to seize the Suez Canal crew as they carry out their probe, with one expert telling Indian media that investigators would listen to recordings of mariners' conversations in the lead-up to the blockage.

    more here:
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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Hillary Clinton's Secret Service codename is Evergreen. This event imbued that name into the global psyche.
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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Turkish TV is reporting something quite interesting (BEYAZ)


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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Turkish TV is reporting something quite interesting (BEYAZ)


    Really interesting, and astonishing at the same time.

    In the Hollyweird thread someone uploaded a video about adrenochrome and Hollywood, also from Turkish TV. Astonishing, as well.

    My question now, can we be quite sure that this is from the Turkish mainstream media or is it just from a small, alternative TV Station that nobody watches?
    I so hope it's the former.

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Turkish TV is reporting something quite interesting (BEYAZ)


    Really interesting, and astonishing at the same time.

    In the Hollyweird thread someone uploaded a video about adrenochrome and Hollywood, also from Turkish TV. Astonishing, as well.

    My question now, can we be quite sure that this is from the Turkish mainstream media or is it just from a small, alternative TV Station that nobody watches?
    I so hope it's the former.
    This is certainly fascinating!! BUMP!

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Any new news about this huge fiasco? Nobody is talking anymore.

    and bump the thread!
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    Quote Posted by palehorse (here)
    Any new news about this huge fiasco? Nobody is talking anymore.

    and bump the thread!
    It got big because Reddit made it big with lots and lots of memes. And once it ended being useful, Reddit "buried" it, and so everyone stopped paying attention to it

    Most of those things start/end the same, like nobody talks anymore about the Jeffrey Epstein thing, even though it has been mostly proven that the Maxwell girl was one of the top admins at reddit, it just got "dismissed" on time

    Once a tool serves its purpose, it goes away...
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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Turkish TV is reporting something quite interesting (BEYAZ)

    Who is Kaan Sariaydin? Anyone checked the accuracy of the subtitles? Or that Beyaz TV is even a real channel? (The channel is a real National TV channel with offices in Ankara and Istanbul. As for the subtitles translation or the credibility of Mr Sariaydin...?)
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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Turkish TV is reporting something quite interesting (BEYAZ)

    Who is Kaan Sariaydin? Anyone checked the accuracy of the subtitles? Or that Beyaz TV is even a real channel? (The channel is a real National TV channel with offices in Ankara and Istanbul. As for the subtitles translation or the credibility of Mr Sariaydin...?)
    ~~~

    The key reason why this has to be nonsense is that it's totally impossible to check out the contents of any containers (except maybe a handful at the very edges of the huge stack of over 18,000!) unless they're all unloaded in port.

    While the Ever Given was stuck, no containers were moved. There was no crane anywhere near. (It was near-impossible to get a large container-unloading crane to that spot. That's why they didn't unload any containers to lighten the ship's load so it could float higher in the water when the tugs were working to free it.)

    On ships like this, the containers are stacked solidly like 18,000 identical lego bricks in several huge, thick blocks. You can't reach any of the containers unless they're at the edge of the block and their doors are somehow able to be opened.

    If there was anything of interest in any of the containers — which might not be impossible, of course — the simple (and only possible!) thing to do would be to wait till it had reached Rotterdam, and then impound everything for a huge methodical examination.

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Turkish TV is reporting something quite interesting (BEYAZ)

    Who is Kaan Sariaydin? Anyone checked the accuracy of the subtitles? Or that Beyaz TV is even a real channel? (The channel is a real National TV channel with offices in Ankara and Istanbul. As for the subtitles translation or the credibility of Mr Sariaydin...?)
    I just did a little research on Mr Sariaydin.
    Apparently he gets quite a bit of coverage as a speaker about different subjects, mostly Turkish politics and Azerbaijan. He doesn't seem to
    have his own youtube channel but is featured on several channels.
    His most popular video is about the possible crash of the gold price and had 1.9 million views.
    It seems he is quite well-known in Turkey and isn't necessarily a conspiracy theorist.
    At least I wouldn't dismiss what he says out of hand. It would be great if we had a member who speaks Turkish.
    There is an English transcript of what he says here on the internet, but obviously I don't know how reliable it is.
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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Here the Video is on Bitchute


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/HOHbkKuvh1Yw

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    Thanks, uzn, looks like it has been removed from youtube now.

    Do we have any Turkish members who could tell us whether it has been translated correctly?

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Egypt has seized the Ever Given claiming they're owed $900 million in compensation due to lost revenue.
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    Quote A few weeks ago, Egypt was frantically trying to get the massive container ship Ever Given out of the Suez Canal.

    Now, authorities are saying the vessel is not allowed to leave.

    In the latest complication to the ill-fated voyage, Egypt has seized the Ever Given over its owners’ “failure to pay an amount of $900 million,” the state-run news outlet Ahram Gate reported. That amount represents the total compensation that Egypt says it is owed for the six-day blockage of the Suez Canal, including lost revenue from ships that ordinarily would have traveled through the canal during that time, as well as costs for damage to the crucial waterway and the equipment and labor deployed in the 144-hour scramble to free the ship.

    Since it was dislodged from the narrow section of the canal where it ran aground in late March, blocking commerce worth billions of dollars, the Ever Given has been anchored in Egypt’s Great Bitter Lake, at the midpoint of the canal. Twenty-five crew members, all Indian nationals, remain stuck on board.

    The ruling allowing Egypt to seize the Ever Given was issued by a court in Ismailia, a city on the west bank of the canal, according to the Ahram Gate website. The Suez Canal Authority, which made the request, noted that Egypt’s maritime trade laws allow the “precautionary seizure” of vessels that have outstanding debts, including failure to pay the costs from an accident.

    “The vessel will remain here until investigations are complete and compensation is paid,” Osama Rabie, chairman of the Suez Canal Authority (SCA), told Egyptian state television last week, according to the Wall Street Journal. “The minute they agree to compensation, the vessel will be allowed to move.”

    But the National Union of Seafarers in India argues that refusing to let the crew off the ship amounts to holding them for ransom. “If the SCA has suffered losses, they can sort it out with those involved with the ship,” Abdulgani Serang, the union’s general secretary, told the Times of India on Sunday.

    The Ever Given is owned by Shoei Kisen Kaisha, a Japanese holding company, but leased by Evergreen Marine Corp., a Taiwan-based conglomerate. Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement, a German firm, was responsible for hiring the crew.

    Egypt has not said which company it expects to pay for the damage, but Shoei Kisen Kaisha told the Journal last week that it was “in the middle of negotiations” with Suez authorities. The company has filed a lawsuit in British court aimed at limiting its liability for the incident.

    Investigations of how the Ever Given became lodged sideways in the canal are continuing. In a recent interview, Rabie suggested the captain could have “made a mistake” with the ship’s steering or speed, according to Kyodo News. He emphasized that the two Suez Canal pilots who were on board to offer guidance were not ultimately responsible for making decisions and dismissed the idea that strong winds had pushed the ship off course.

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    I find it fascinating that Ever Given is crowded with ships coming and going past her daily since being anchored in Bitter Lake.
    EXCEPT in the middle of their night. I look in on her from time to time on VesselTracker.com. https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000
    At their time, 3-4am, Ever Given is alone in the lake. No boating/shipping traffic at all. At least none with AIS signals. Lots of boats/ships are ready for their transit. Curious.

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    Egypt, Qatar, turkey and Israel all working together against the globalist? This must be true its been removed by youtube

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    I do feel for the Indian crew on the Ever Given. I have read many stories of the crews of impounded ships who are stuck on board and not allowed to disembark, sometimes for a year or more. They rarely get pay from their employers whilst the ships are impounded and their families are left to survive without income.

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    Default Re: Chaos in the Suez Canal (Ever Given container ship, March 2021)

    This story seems to have some way to go yet. A nation state doesn't just impound the biggest freight ship in the world, given the sway, and financial power the companies that own it, and others who have cargo on board, have, in comparison to one country (Egypt). I imagine that usually, when an incident of this magnitude takes place, then it'd be a given that invested interests would pay compensation no problem (or just say 'tough luck'), and nothing more would be made of the matter.



    I sense there's got to be be something much bigger at stake here.

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