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    this is an email had in response to the petition below.
    this sentence stood out for me:
    However, the Government has stated that individual organisations may make a discretionary choice to require covid-status certification (for example, via the NHS app) to help keep their premises safe, although the review has concluded that "essential services" should not do this.

    Dear ......,

    You recently signed the petition “Do not rollout Covid-19 vaccine passports”:
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

    On Monday 5 July, the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Sajid Javid MP gave a statement to the House of Commons on covid-19. The Secretary of State updated MPs on the Government's plans for social restrictions and guidance from 19 July.

    He also announced the outcome of the Government's review of domestic covid-status certification, also known as 'covid passports'. The Secretary of State confirmed the Government will not mandate the use of covid-status certification as a condition of entry for visitors to any setting, such as shops or events, at the present time.

    Watch the statement here:
    https://parliamentlive.tv/event/inde...1&out=17:52:16

    Read the transcript here:
    https://hansard.parliament.uk/common...Covid-19Update

    Read the Government's report on its covid-status certification review:
    https://assets.publishing.service.go...iew-Report.pdf

    The Government's review concluded that there would be a public health benefit to covid-status certification, but that the burden of implementing such a system, to businesses and individuals not yet fully vaccinated, would be disproportionate to that benefit at this stage of the pandemic.

    However, the Government has stated that individual organisations may make a discretionary choice to require covid-status certification (for example, via the NHS app) to help keep their premises safe, although the review has concluded that "essential services" should not do this.

    The review also noted that the Government will keep the option of routine covid-status certification under review, and that certification could provide a means of keeping events going and businesses open if the country is facing a difficult situation in autumn or winter.
    What are Ministerial statements?

    Ministerial statements are a way for Ministers to bring an important matter to the attention of the House.

    Find out more about them here: https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/...ss/statements/

    Thanks,
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    Medical apartheid announced

    Incidentally other venues where large crowds gather include supermarkets etc



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    Well, I don't know if it includes supermarkets right now, I was being flippant. But I just won't be surprised as and when (if?) it does. I'm embarrassed to put if? because the one thing a British government will do is u-turn all previous promises to keep up with draconian measures being imposed at the same time in other countries all round the world. Globalist coup if you ask me.

    News just in, because it always moves fast in 2021: Globalist pawn Boris doesn't rule out vaccine papers for pubs. It's to get the youngsters jabbed obviously, the same as nightclubs and large venues 😢


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    The push-back here will I think just be too much, I'm certain. Macron has already been forced into a 'U turn' of sorts.

    My MP (Conservative) will be hearing from me about this, that's for sure.

    Edit to add
    This could just of course also be a bluff to coerce take-up in those age groups.
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    Covid - 19(84)

    can we beat it?

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    Courtesy of The Daily Expose
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    Vaccine Minister announces Vaccine Passports will also be needed to go to the Cinema, Church, and Football

    The list of attractions that could be forced to mandate vaccine passports as a condition of entry is already growing, with minister Nadhim Zahawi listing other “crowded venues” that may have to ban the unvaccinated.

    On Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson made a mockery of ‘freedom day’ – when all coronavirus restrictions were supposed to be lifted – by announcing that nightclubs would be made to check for vaccine status on the door.

    Despite widespread backlash to the idea and the potential for a defeat when it comes to a vote in Parliament, vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi indicated today that the program could be extended further.

    During a speech to the Commons, Zahawi said sporting and business events, churches, music venues and festivals would also be subject to the rules, which are expected to come into force at the end of September.

    “We reserve the right to mandate its use in the future,” he said.

    Zahawi also asked venues to make providing evidence of taking the jab or a negative test a condition of entry before September despite the fact that it’s not the law.

    Nadhim Zahawi confirms the vaccine passport roll out in the UK.

    He also reiterates double jabs becoming a condition of entry at any venue where “large crowds gather and interact”, such as churches, cinemas and nightclubs.

    “We reserve the right to mandate its use in the future.” pic.twitter.com/ueHAp3FP4I

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    “Although we don’t encourage its use in essential settings like supermarkets, other businesses and organisations in England can adopt the pass as a means of entry where it is suitable for their venue or premises when they can see its potential to keep their clients or their customers safe,” he said.

    Some nightclub owners are already saying they will refuse to follow the law because the system will be unworkable and wipe out profit margins.

    It remains to be seen whether the entire issue is just a PR stunt to bully younger people into taking the vaccine or whether it will actually be implemented.

    The government previously assured the public that vaccine passports would not be introduced for domestic purposes, even going so far as to label the practice “discriminatory.”

    Despite widespread unruly protests in France forcing President Macron to walk back part of a similar plan, a vaccine passport will still be required to access a multitude of venues, including bars, cafes and public transport.

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Courtesy of The Daily Expose
    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/22...church-cinema/

    [INDENT][I]Vaccine Minister announces Vaccine Passports will also be needed to go to the Cinema, Church, and Football

    During a speech to the Commons, Zahawi said sporting and business events, churches, music venues and festivals would also be subject to the rules, which are expected to come into force at the end of September.

    “We reserve the right to mandate its use in the future,” he said.
    Churches??? They're nowhere near full these days in Britain. Only about 10 people go to services in our village apart from the Christmas carol service, and in cities quite a few have closed. Rural vicars these days cover about 4 or 5 parishes as the Church of England can't sustain financially a vicar in every parish.

    Now if that includes mosques, synagogues and temples... expect a lot of people who will start to protest vehemently who have previously been silent.
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    I saw this tonight and the vaccine passport issue is becoming a bit of a political football now...

    Lib Dems and then Labour have decided to oppose it and there is a chance it might not get through the Commons - let's hope that is what happens - finally there is some real opposition at work - and how many conservatives might swap sides if they think they have a real chance of stopping it - ?

    If the conservative Party gets isolated on this they could lose the next election - voters might have piled in to vote the Johnson Government in because that was the only way to get Brexit done... but now they are enthusiastically taking away freedoms and pushing people too hard to take the experimental 'vaccine' - which is utterly irresponsible - they could find a very different swing when the next election comes... (if the next election comes and the Global Dictators don't create a situation to stop it, that is...)



    43 Conservative MPs sign up to anti-vaccine passport campaign
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    Quote Posted by Brigantia (here)
    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Courtesy of The Daily Expose
    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/22...church-cinema/

    [INDENT][I]Vaccine Minister announces Vaccine Passports will also be needed to go to the Cinema, Church, and Football

    During a speech to the Commons, Zahawi said sporting and business events, churches, music venues and festivals would also be subject to the rules, which are expected to come into force at the end of September.

    “We reserve the right to mandate its use in the future,” he said.
    Churches??? They're nowhere near full these days in Britain. Only about 10 people go to services in our village apart from the Christmas carol service, and in cities quite a few have closed. Rural vicars these days cover about 4 or 5 parishes as the Church of England can't sustain financially a vicar in every parish.

    Now if that includes mosques, synagogues and temples... expect a lot of people who will start to protest vehemently who have previously been silent.
    There are protests, in France, Italy, Greece, and London tomorrow. It's all moving much faster than I'd let myself believe it could. Its not too late but I think it's time for slightly more drastic lifestyle planning/changes

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    Was just looking at this and the vote that included making vaccines mandatory for Care Home staff was pretty much split on party lines - with just 2 labour MPs voting for it - and 31 rebel conservatives voting against -

    https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Co...sion/1078#ayes

    12 Consevatives and 45 Scottish National Party were in the 'no vote recorded' category...

    Now if they voted against vaccine passports ...... even if it was just to give the Johnson Government a bloody nose.... ???

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Was just looking at this and the vote that included making vaccines mandatory for Care Home staff was pretty much split on party lines - with just 2 labour MPs voting for it - and 31 rebel conservatives voting against -

    https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Co...sion/1078#ayes

    12 Consevatives and 45 Scottish National Party were in the 'no vote recorded' category...

    Now if they voted against vaccine passports ...... even if it was just to give the Johnson Government a bloody nose.... ???
    Interesting... thanks for that. Time to drop my MP a line but he's youngish, the type with an eye on becoming a junior minister some day. He voted for the care home workers' jabs.

    I think I'll give him a history lesson about a time in the last century, somewhere across the Channel, when people had to show their papers.

    PS - fellow Brits, writing to your MP is easy via Write to Them.
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    Ditto but I try to keep emails to my MP a minimum. Mine voted in line with the Tory party whip for the last year. He responded to my last email by waffling on about long covid,. I responded with ONS figures (I asked him to look for himself but ended up sending them to him). But I wonder if they're terrified. MP is a job not a passion, and one that could be dangerous. That said, if I didn't write to mine, I would have regretted the chance to. I sent him one recently along the lines of:

    > In 2020, HCQ showed amazing results curing Covid to the point it warranted official trials. So, since the only reason the trials were halted was because of a mistake by The Lancet, why oh why don't we resume those trials?

    But repeating "warranted officials trials for a reason / cancelled by mistake" three times within the flow of argument (four paragraphs ish). I've sent a total four emails to my MP in my life. But I'm motivated to send that last one because I didn't want to regret something rather than I thought it would make a difference (w/ my specific MP). Good luck with yours, I'm sure it can only be a good thing to write to them atm

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    Can you believe this? Listen to the video, this was actually said:

    Quote As far as the UK is concerned they will be considered as fully vaccinated whether they have had the placebo or the vaccine
    Nadhim Zahawi, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Prevention, Public Health and Primary Care



    In other words, someone injected with a saline solution will be considered good to get a vaccine passport.
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    I think this belongs here rather than the crypto thread. Britcoin will be tracked digital currency, not decentralised in my opinion; top-down authoritative rather than person to person. Guessing but like what else am I going to guess at this point?


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    I thought we were meant to judge the government not the other way round. More anti-social policies from the UK government, all too fast. France seem slightly ahead of us, waiting to see what happens there


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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    I thought we were meant to judge the government not the other way round. More anti-social policies from the UK government, all too fast. France seem slightly ahead of us, waiting to see what happens there


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    Johnson plans to introduce an app that records shopping history and rewards points for foods bought in supermarkets that are healthy. Social credit system begins in UK. Heard this on GB News.
    I'd like to know what 'healthy' supermarkets are... do they mean the higher-priced ones like Waitrose? I sometimes go around the bargain ones, Aldi and Lidl, and they have really expanded their organic, wholefood and vegetarian/vegan lines.

    There's still a lot of unhealthy food - highly processed, high sugar, high fat - that you can find in Waitrose.

    What about people like me who don't have a smart phone and don't want one either?

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    The push-back here will I think just be too much, I'm certain. Macron has already been forced into a 'U turn' of sorts.

    My MP (Conservative) will be hearing from me about this, that's for sure.

    Edit to add
    This could just of course also be a bluff to coerce take-up in those age groups.
    I don't believe it is a bluff, they are clearly determined to implement some sort of passport system. Vaccine passports are, in my opinion, one of the primary objectives. Once they are in place CBDCs, social credit and UBI become possible to implement as a means of control.

    The Tory party can't be blind to how unpopular they are becoming and this will be worse for them than the poll tax. Perhaps they don't care. I wouldn't be surprised if the next general election is put on indefinite hold. The labour parties feigned opposition looks like theater to me and I think that if it were a labour government we would still be in the same situation.

    I have written to my MP about it on a number of occasions, as early as summer last year when most people were telling me 'it will never happen' or 'that's just a conspiracy theory'. I think it is pretty clear that something sinister is going on and if that conclusion is wrong then the onus is on government here and around the world to start demonstrating that fact; fast.

    Perhaps this is all preperation for our glorious zero carbon future. Did you see the report Absolute Zero?

    Quote We have to cut our greenhouse gas emissions to zero by
    2050: that’s what climate scientists tell us, it’s what social
    protesters are asking for and it’s now the law in the UK.

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    ...

    ... if Kim Goguen is correct, the vax pass has become totally irrelevant... like having a 5" floppy and no drive to read it

    I.e., Microsoft Azure system brought down to a pile of useless trash!

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    Default Re: Internal Vaccination Passports for the UK

    Lets reiterate that statement to say they are "DESPERATE" they are Cleary witnessing their own dissent and while there is still some control over the MSM who are still on their side I can't see it lasting much longer...

    Desperate times call for desperate measures...

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    The push-back here will I think just be too much, I'm certain. Macron has already been forced into a 'U turn' of sorts.

    My MP (Conservative) will be hearing from me about this, that's for sure.

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    This could just of course also be a bluff to coerce take-up in those age groups.
    I don't believe it is a bluff, they are clearly determined to implement some sort of passport system. Vaccine passports are, in my opinion, one of the primary objectives. Once they are in place CBDCs, social credit and UBI become possible to implement as a means of control.

    The Tory party can't be blind to how unpopular they are becoming and this will be worse for them than the poll tax. Perhaps they don't care. I wouldn't be surprised if the next general election is put on indefinite hold. The labour parties feigned opposition looks like theater to me and I think that if it were a labour government we would still be in the same situation.

    I have written to my MP about it on a number of occasions, as early as summer last year when most people were telling me 'it will never happen' or 'that's just a conspiracy theory'. I think it is pretty clear that something sinister is going on and if that conclusion is wrong then the onus is on government here and around the world to start demonstrating that fact; fast.

    Perhaps this is all preperation for our glorious zero carbon future. Did you see the report Absolute Zero?

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    2050: that’s what climate scientists tell us, it’s what social
    protesters are asking for and it’s now the law in the UK.

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    Default Re: Internal Vaccination Passports for the UK

    https://gab.com/MajorPatriot

    Quote The EU started working on a vaccine passport system in 2018, with the goal being to fully implement it by 2022.

    Odd timing, isn't it?


    https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/de...roadmap_en.pdf

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