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    Quote Posted by Arkanthos123 (here)
    We need more people to sign a petition against what they are trying to take away our rights. https://stopmedicaldiscrimination.org/
    I've seen many calls to sign a petition. I've signed a few. Just curious has there ever been a petition that's been successful.

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz)

    There will be a way around this. It is coming. Just wait for it!
    Base on my analytical mind. I don't see a way out yet. But my guts tell me "there is a way around this". So for now I'm keenly observing so that when I see an opportunity I will be able to take advantage of it quickly.
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    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    Hello this is Naomi Wolf, CO of Daily cloud and I must warn you about great dangers. Well you nerd if you have been playing with fire to make your great tech carreer all these years, solve it now !
    I was confused by this video by a young, blonde Naomi Wolf. I'm familiar with the old, brunette Naomi Wolf, famous in liberal circles. I don't know who this new one is.

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    There will be a way around this. It is coming. Just wait for it!
    Base on my analytical mind. I don't see a way out yet. But my guts tell me "there is a way around this". So for now I'm keenly observing so that when I see an opportunity I will be able to take advantage of it quickly.
    Astrologer William Stickevers predicted people will be buying covid passports on the dark web.
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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    I was confused by this video by a young, blonde Naomi Wolf. I'm familiar with the old, brunette Naomi Wolf, famous in liberal circles. I don't know who this new one is.
    Naomi Wolf is 58 years young. Click here for images, also see wiki bio.

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    the individual right to lay claim to your own body is being taken away. Im 100% healthy. Why would i allow someone to invade my body with something I don't need, want or agree to?
    I view a mandatory covid passport to travel as the tipping point to the end.
    It would be bad enough if it were to be used just to regulate travel.
    But its proposed use will be far more sinister than simply regulating travel.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    One way to qualify for a vaccine passport is to get a positive covid-19 test. If you can clear out a 2-week quarantine period in your schedule, then go from test center to test center, say you're sick, and you'll probably eventually get a positive result, due to all the false positives on the PCR test. Maybe go without sleep or shower to sell it.
    There will be many different ways to obtain a 'vaccine passport' in the coming months and years.
    Getting one to use with the system is just playing into their hands.
    The smart thing to do is not to play their game.

    How could I have gained entrance to stores and other venues the past year+ without complying
    to the face mask -social distancing - lockdown -testing mandates?
    I just refused to play along with their game, plain and simple.

    Most people either worship their misguided 'leaders' or if they don't, lack the guts not to play along with their game.
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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    One way to qualify for a vaccine passport is to get a positive covid-19 test. If you can clear out a 2-week quarantine period in your schedule, then go from test center to test center, say you're sick, and you'll probably eventually get a positive result, due to all the false positives on the PCR test. Maybe go without sleep or shower to sell it.
    There will be many different ways to obtain a 'vaccine passport' in the coming months and years.
    Getting one to use with the system is just playing into their hands.
    The smart thing to do is not to play their game.

    How could I have gained entrance to stores and other venues the past year+ without complying
    to the face mask -social distancing - lockdown -testing mandates?
    I just refused to play along with their game, plain and simple.
    Right Dave, I remember once I was accosted in a crowded place for not wearing a mask. They ask for my ID I told them I dont have one. They said they have to bring me to the station. So I replied " Which way Lets go" They are apparently taken a back for a moment so I walk on by between them leaving them behind.

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    Doug and others: One of the latest vaccine companies has confirmed that this injection IS NOT A VACCINE OR VAXINE. It is a nanotech program stuck to an RNA molecule which is normally attached to DNA. It appears to me there must be two types of Nanotech molecules as follows: One kind turns you into a Mind Controlled Robot, while the other, and more prolific ones act to provoke your IMMUNE system to ATTACK THE BODY AND KILL IT. Also, you cannot take the test (up the nose or rectum) because it contains Living Morgellons Fibers loaded with Nanobots designed to invade the brain and body. It will kill you. YOU MUST REFUSE ANYTHING FROM THESE IGNORANT MURDERERS.

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    I have read that the plan is to kill 200,000,000 Americans. Don't be one of them.

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    Regarding covid passports, I think this might be the evidence from the horse's mouth...........the horse in this case being the EU.

    COV(ert)ID (20)19
    Last edited by Akasha; 3rd April 2021 at 09:38.
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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Quote Posted by Arkanthos123 (here)
    We need more people to sign a petition against what they are trying to take away our rights. https://stopmedicaldiscrimination.org/
    I've seen many calls to sign a petition. I've signed a few. Just curious has there ever been a petition that's been successful.
    Every time I get a petition to sign, usually I receive by email, the first thing I do is check how many trackers they have in the page, and who is behind the petition itself.

    - This petition above got 3 suspicious blocked script in my firewall to a server called "secureserver.net" that call some sort of heart beat script used to fire event on scheduled time (no clue why they have it).
    - They sent out their campaigns using a website called https://madmimi.com/
    - the petition form is coming from here: https://madmimi.com/signups/2cb39443...b6fcb27/iframe (which has another tracker called newrelic - probably to know who clicked/signed the damn thing and register some statistics for their own system).
    - then there is a call to this URL: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1535515097 which output a number, only a number (i do not know if it is a counter or random or whatever).
    - and the list go on and on, the petition page made 112 requests in order to work.. It is just too much for a simple petition.

    I avoid ALL petitions created with "Avaaz", I always check the source code of the page to search for it, I refuse to sign any petition that is bonded with the cabal.

    This one in specific I have a neutral opinion, IF I was going to sign it, I would research about them first and have sure they have no ties with any hell corporation out there.

    I hate to have to check and double check this sort of things every time, but if I am interested in sign it, that's what I do, the other option is asking someone with good character involved in this sort of things (easy way).
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    Finally a gust of sanity and for some optimism. Governor DeSantis of Florida signs a bill against Covid Passports

    https://apnews.com/article/health-fo...1b242678864857

    “It’s completely unacceptable for either the government or the private sector to impose upon you the requirement that you show proof of vaccine to just simply participate in normal society,” the governor said.

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    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Regarding covid passports, I think this might be the evidence from the horse's mouth...........the horse in this case being the EU.

    COV(ert)ID (20)19
    I should have mentioned the following in my previous post: when reading the pdf, please note in the top right of the document that it was last updated in March 2019.
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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    the individual right to lay claim to your own body is being taken away. Im 100% healthy. Why would i allow someone to invade my body with something I don't need, want or agree to?
    I view a mandatory covid passport to travel as the tipping point to the end.
    It would be bad enough if it were to be used just to regulate travel.
    But its proposed use will be far more sinister than simply regulating travel.
    Eventually, it will include every speck of metadata, including real-time biometrics, associated with any kind of interaction with anything, and monetized in a social credit system. If the metadata injected at the start is manipulated or outright fraudulent to begin with, well, too bad, now it's Immutably-True
    Last edited by gord; 3rd April 2021 at 12:36. Reason: the usual suspects
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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)

    Astrologer William Stickevers predicted people will be buying covid passports on the dark web.
    Re the forged covid passports/vaccination certs available on the dark web...I recently read an opinion that claimed these forgeries will be used as proof that some sort of biometric (chip) passport will be needed (all in the name of bio-security and convenience of course) and Uncle Billy G will be ready and waiting with the needed chip tech. Game over.
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    This article is satirical, but very sharp. It deliberately exaggerates a few of the issues, but in so doing it warns us about where we may be headed: the Unvaccinated may become the new Untouchables.
    The “Unvaccinated” Question

    29 March, 2021



    So, the New Normals are discussing the Unvaccinated Question. What is to be done with us? No, not those who haven’t been “vaccinated” yet. Us. The “Covidiots.” The “Covid deniers.” The “science deniers.” The “reality deniers.” Those who refuse to get “vaccinated,” ever.

    There is no place for us in New Normal society. The New Normals know this and so do we. To them, we are a suspicious, alien tribe of people. We do not share their ideological beliefs. We do not perform their loyalty rituals, or we do so only grudgingly, because they force us to do so.

    We traffic in arcane “conspiracy theories,” like “pre-March-2020 science,” “natural herd immunity,” “population-adjusted death rates,” “Sweden,” “Florida,” and other heresies.

    They do not trust us. We are strangers among them. They suspect we feel superior to them. They believe we are conspiring against them, that we want to deceive them, confuse them, cheat them, pervert their culture, abuse their children, contaminate their precious bodily fluids, and perpetrate God knows what other horrors.

    So they are discussing the need to segregate us, how to segregate us, when to segregate us, in order to protect society from us. In their eyes, we are no more than criminals, or, worse, a plague, an infestation.

    In the words of someone (I can’t quite recall who), “getting rid of the Unvaccinated is not a question of ideology. It is a question of cleanliness,” or something like that. (I’ll have to hunt down and fact-check that quote. I might have taken it out of context.)

    In Israel, Estonia, Denmark, Germany, the USA, and other New Normal countries, they have already begun the segregation process. In the UK, it’s just a matter of time. The WEF, WHO, EU, and other transnational entities are helping to streamline the new segregation system, which, according to the WEF, “will need to be harmonized by a normative body, such as the WHO, to ensure that is ethical.”

    Here in Germany, the government is considering banning us from working outside our homes. We are already banned from flying on commercial airlines. (We can still use the trains, if we dress up like New Normals.) In the village of Potsdam, just down the road from Wannsee (which name you might recall from your 20th-Century history lessons), we are banned from entering shops and restaurants. (I’m not sure whether we can still use the sidewalks, or whether we have to walk in the gutters.)

    In Saxony, we are forbidden from attending schools. At the Berliner Ensemble (the theater founded by Bertolt Brecht and Helene Weigel, lifelong opponents of totalitarianism and fascism), we are banned from attending New Normal performances.

    In the USA, we are being banned by universities. Our children are being banned from public schools. In New York, the new “Excelsior Pass” will allow New Normals to attend cultural and sports events (and patronize bars and restaurants, eventually) secure in the knowledge that the Unvaccinated have been prevented from entering or segregated in an “Unvaccinated Only” section.

    The pass system, designed by IBM, which, if history is any guide, is pretty good at designing such systems (OK, technically, it was Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft, IBM’s Nazi-Germany subsidiary), was launched this past weekend to considerable fanfare.

    And this is only the very beginning.

    Israel’s “Green Pass” is the model for the future, which makes sense, in a sick, fascistic kind of way. When you’re already an apartheid state, what’s a little more apartheid? Here’s a peek at what that looks like …




    OK, I know what the New Normals are thinking. They’re thinking I’m “misleading” people again. That I’m exaggerating. That this isn’t really segregation, and certainly nothing like “medical apartheid.”

    After all (as the New Normals will sternly remind me), no one is forcing us to get “vaccinated.” If we choose not to, or can’t for medical reasons, all we have to do is submit to a “test” — you know, the one where they ram that 9-inch swab up into your sinus cavities — within 24 hours before we want to go out to dinner, or attend the theater or a sports event, or visit a museum, or attend a university, or take our children to school or a playground, and our test results will serve as our “vaccine passports!”

    We just present them to the appropriate Covid Compliance Officer, and (assuming the results are negative, of course) we will be allowed to take part in New Normal society just as if we’d been “vaccinated.”

    Either way, “vaccine” or “test,” the New Normal officials will be satisfied, because the tests and passes are really just stage props. The point is the display of mindless obedience. Even if you take the New Normals at their word, if you are under 65 and in relatively good health, getting “vaccinated” is more or less pointless, except as a public display of compliance and belief in the official Covid-19 narrative (the foundation stone of the New Normal ideology).

    Even the high priests of their “Science” confess that it doesn’t prevent you spreading the “plague.” And the PCR tests are virtually meaningless, as even the WHO finally admitted. (You can positive-PCR-test a pawpaw fruit … but you might want to be careful who you tell if you do that.)

    In contrast to the “vaccine” and the “test” themselves, the forced choice between them is not at all meaningless. It is no accident that both alternatives involve the violation of our bodies, literally the penetration of our bodies. It doesn’t really matter what is in the “vaccines” or what “results” the “tests” produce.

    The ritual is a demonstration of power, the power of the New Normals (i.e., global capitalism’s new face) to control our bodies, to dominate them, to violate them, psychologically and physically.

    Now, don’t get all excited, my “conspiracy theorist” friends. I haven’t gone full QAnon just yet. Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab are not sitting around together, sipping adrenochrome on George Soros’ yacht, dreaming up ways to rape people’s noses. This stuff is built into the structure of the system. It is a standard feature of totalitarian societies, cults, churches, self-help groups, and … well, human society, generally.

    Being forced to repeat a physical action which only makes sense within a specific ideology reifies that ideology within us. There is nothing inherently diabolical about this. It is a basic socialization technology. It is how we socialize our children. It is why we conduct weddings, baptisms, and bar mitzvahs.

    It is how we turn young men and women into soldiers. It is how actors learn their blocking and their lines. It is why the Nazis held all those rallies. It is why our “democracies” hold elections. It is also basic ceremonial magic … but that’s a topic for a different column.

    The issue, at the moment, is the Unvaccinated Question, and the public rituals that are being performed to make the New Normal ideology “reality,” and what to do about those of us who refuse to participate in those rituals, who refuse to forswear “old normal” reality and convert to New Normalism so that we can function in society without being segregated, criminalized, or “diagnosed” as “sociopathic” or otherwise psychiatrically disordered.

    For us “conspiracy-theorizing reality deniers,” there is no getting around this dilemma. This isn’t Europe in the 1930s. There isn’t anywhere to emigrate to … OK, there is, temporarily, in some of the US states that have been staging rebellions, and other such “old normal” oases, but how long do you think that will last?

    They’re already rolling out the “mutant variants,” and God only knows what will happen when the long-term effects of the “vaccines” kick in.

    No, for most of us denizens of the global capitalist empire, it looks like the New Normal is here to stay. So, unless we are prepared to become New Normals, we are going to have to stand and fight. It is going to get rather ugly, and personal, but there isn’t any way to avoid that.

    Given that many New Normals are our friends and colleagues, or even members of our families, it is tempting to believe that they will “come to their senses,” that “this is all just a hysterical overreaction,” and that “everything will go back to normal soon.”

    This would be a monumental error on our parts … very possibly a fatal error.
    Totalitarian movements, when they reach this stage, do not simply stop on their own. They continue to advance toward their full expressions, ultimately transforming entire societies into monstrous mirror-images of themselves, unless they are opposed by serious resistance.

    There is a window at the beginning when such resistance has a chance. That window is still open, but it is closing, fast. I can’t tell you how best to resist, but I can tell you it starts with seeing things clearly, and calling things, and people, exactly what they are.

    Let’s not make the same mistake that other minorities have made throughout history when confronted with a new totalitarian ideology. See the New Normals for what they are, maybe not deep down in their hearts, but what they have collectively become a part of, because it is the movement that is in control now, not the rational individuals they used to be.

    Above all, recognize where this is headed, where totalitarian movements are always headed. (See. e.g., Milton Mayer’s They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45.)

    No, the Unvaccinated are not the Jews and the New Normals are not flying big Swastika flags, but totalitarianism is totalitarianism, regardless of which Goebbelsian Big Lies, and ideology, and official enemies it is selling. The historical context and costumes change, but its ruthless trajectory remains the same.

    Today, the New Normals are presenting us with a “choice,” (a) conform to their New Normal ideology or (b) social segregation. What do you imagine they have planned for us tomorrow?

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    It's a bit like ghetto's & pogroms 2.0.

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    Quote Posted by Johan (Keyholder) (here)
    It's a bit like ghetto's & pogroms 2.0.

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    They are going to stop you from buying food, going anywhere or doing anything and every alternative they give you will lead you straight to DEATH as is their avowed and published intention in 2010 Rockefeller Lockstep. Next they will be filling up their 930 Death Camps with you and your families and chopping off your heads with their guillotines. THEY WANT YOU DEAD, HOW IS NOT IMPORTANT TO THEM. STAND UP AND REVERSE THE PROCESS!

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    Amazon TV Show Counterpart:
    At the beginning of Season 1 episode 3, which came out in 2018, they show someone watching a German public service announcement with children wearing masks. It says to keep up on your vaccines and that failure to report someone who is sick but doesn't see a doctor is punishable by fine or jail.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6410806/?ref_=ttep_ep3

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