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    I have seen first hand how they mistreat pigs, cows and chickens, if you are a meat lover like me, maybe, just maybe, its time to reduce, not eliminate, but reduce consumption as I am doing. We speak loudly when we all join in an economic protest which reduce profits for those making a killing (pun intended) from our dollars.

    I am offline more often, replies maybe few and far between..

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    At age 28 in the year 1972 as a regular carnivore I read a book which encouraged the reader to try going without any kind of flesh except fish for one month. I felt much lighter physically after doing that and have never touched any kind of meat or poultry since nor ever felt the need for it. I have one fish dish per week. Since then the only medical condition in nearly fifty years which I have suffered is bronchial asthma probably brought on by smoking sixty a day which I gave up the same year as the meat.

    As regards killing fish for food there has to be a line drawn somewhere under the food chain. Jesus associated with fisher families without attempting to convince them to give up the profession and I use that as my justification whenever challenged.
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    • Highly Spiritual Dolphins (with brains ±15% bigger than ours) love to eat herrings and herrings want to live too
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    Bottlenose dolphins (Tursiops truncatus) have an absolute brain mass of 1,500–1,700 grams. This is slightly greater than that of humans (1,300–1,400 grams) and about four times that of chimpanzees (400 grams).

    Dolphins are carnivores and eat a variety of small fish, squid and shrimp. The large mammals sometimes hunt in groups but also feed alone. Researchers have found that dolphins, like humans, can acquire tastes for different things. Some dolphins prefer to eat mackerel or herring while others favor squid and they all want to live too!




    Some even claim Dolphins came from Sirius B (having a Water Planet orbiting there) to Earth... Not sure if that is true but if it IS true I would not be surprised!

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    Default Re: Do you eat meat? Could you, Would you...?

    My average meat portion per day is about 150 gr. (4.5 kg/month)and 100% home processed in natural way and without any chemical preservatives:boiled, (deep) fried,stewed,all kind of sausages,salami,hams and so on and being home processed and also transmuted because contains water,so nothing harmless.From time to time when my organism "feel" that I have enough proteins,I eat only vegetables and fruits.No matter of is meat or vegetables,both are meant to be ingested for,at least,a good body function.No excess,no fasting,only what we need.
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    No meat for years, almost ten or so. Been also a vegan last year for three months but changed to vegetarian again for practical circumstances.

    I have my three reasons: animal love, health and spiritual/vibrational (or whatever).

    I do not care if s.o. eats meat though. Just (only if they asked me or the topic would be touched) would advise them to do it sparingly (especially the red meat) for health reasons.

    But that's all. Each to their own. 'Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen'. I don't label myself but I am kind of 'libertarian' at heart with things like these.

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    I eat meat. But I grow my own. I eat venison and on a ranch like this if I do not take the weak ones they will die, usually a slow painful death. I garden and eat a tremendous amount of vegetables as well.

    The other day I was cutting Cirsium out of the yard. I use them for herbal remedies but this year they are thick. I like to walk in my bear feet and they are painful to walk on. As I was cutting....I swear I could hear them screaming. I stopped.
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    Karen, Wow! First of all that you were open to hearing the screams, and secondly that you so trust your own knowing that you acted on it...I'm not there yet. But hope to be. Diane

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    Karen, Wow! First of all that you were open to hearing the screams, and secondly that you so trust your own knowing that you acted on it...I'm not there yet. But hope to be. Diane
    It is really weird. It happened during the freeze. I started hearing the trees as they broke, now I seem to hear all sorts of things. That in itself is very odd because I am partially deaf.
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    For so many years that I can't remember how many, I have not touched red meat. I eat pre-cooked chicken and fish. As I pass by the meat section of the supermarket, I visualize what is done to these poor animals and I am revolted. Recently I have read posts about similar slaughter being done to humans under the Antarctic. God help us all neither to be their victim or descend to such depravity. Instead of studying wars of every stripe, we should be studying healthy nutrition because I believe we have been lied to from the beginning about everything.

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    Default Re: Do you eat meat? Could you, Would you...?

    we all eat living things be it sprouts, seeds, nuts, leaves, plants, veggies, eggs, fish, chicken, meat and so on.

    is there a reward for eating less evolved things? I dont know. but according to NDE testimony, No

    you are still going where your going when you cross over.

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    Default Re: Do you eat meat? Could you, Would you...?

    There is popular saying: if you are hungry and the only option available is meat, being a vegetarian would you eat or starve to death?

    Yes I do eat meat but not every single day, sometimes I go for a month or two without any meat, but when I eat, it is mostly fish and the smoked stuffs love that!

    I killed a wild pig (boar) once with a knife, when me and my friend got lost in an island in Azores archipelago about two decades ago, and we barbecued the pig. I am not proud of killing animal, but it was an emergency, we were lost and have a long walk to do, we needed lots of energy to save ourselves, that time I didn't have much knowledge of edible plants, the poor pig was the only safe option.
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    I do, only chicken and only sometimes, but yeah

    When i've been on the mountains and i have run out of food and the way back is too long to get something (sometimes you can't go back in time, because of unexpected weather) i had to hunt, meaning i had to kill something to eat. At some point in life, you have to make a choice :/

    But if possible, i avoid it as much as i can, i don't like it at all, and i can't stand the idea of just killing for sport or eating a lot of meat just because it tastes nice and all that stuff

    Reminds me of that song by Kurt Cobain

    "It's ok to eat fish, 'cause they don't have any feelings"

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I eat meat. But I grow my own. I eat venison and on a ranch like this if I do not take the weak ones they will die, usually a slow painful death. I garden and eat a tremendous amount of vegetables as well.

    The other day I was cutting Cirsium out of the yard. I use them for herbal remedies but this year they are thick. I like to walk in my bear feet and they are painful to walk on. As I was cutting....I swear I could hear them screaming. I stopped.
    I've always felt like you have this great connection to nature, from past conversations from you

    Feels like most likely you not listening in full detail to the human world, has enabled you to listen to nature itself? In a more direct way than most of us people would be aware of

    Like when you look at cats in the eye, and sometimes they look deeply back at you and there's something weird going on that you can feel, horses and cows do that sometimes too, right?
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    I'm a Budhhist. therfore and out of compassion, I would never eat a living being. Another point is what happens to your energy and aura. when you eat an animal the negative energy of how they died and the fact that they dind't want to die, puts your aura in to a deep dark red and black energy. this negative energy is destroying your etheral body and not to mention - due to this negative karma, you will be reborn in the hell realms. not my words but the teachings of Siddharta Gautama.

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    I'm a Budhhist. therfore and out of compassion, I would never eat a living being. Another point is what happens to your energy and aura. when you eat an animal the negative energy of how they died and the fact that they dind't want to die, puts your aura in to a deep dark red and black energy. this negative energy is destroying your etheral body and not to mention - due to this negative karma, you will be reborn in the hell realms. not my words but the teachings of Siddharta Gautama.
    That's a bit not 'natural' in itself, because animals will gladly eat you without any regards for "energy" either positive or negative. And animals do have feelings, and hurt inside and all those things, they just know how to deal with the nature itself and understand in a basic way, how life works, they are prepared to fight, but they are also aware of death and deal with it way better than most humans, who invent rules to prevent it or attempt to escape it in any possible way even when they know it's unavoidable

    Since you are a Buddhist, sure you know about the practice of "Transmission of Spirit" or "Sky Burial"?

    A big part of the aspect of being alive, is respecting other living beings, but most importantly, respecting nature and its rules. And one of the main rules of nature is that you must not allow waste, because that waste is something taken away from some other living being. So if you have to eat, you eat, because eventually, you will be food for someone else as well

    Before you can reach Nirvana, you have to accept the nature of this world, as it is, not as you would like it to be. This also means you have to accept that at some point, you will have to eat some other living being, and plants are also living beings by the way. Or you can eat air and water only, but then you would waste your energy so that it doesn't give back to nature as much as nature gave to you...
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    I do eat fish, but do have some slight moral conflict about that too. Perhaps one day I migh give up that too.

    Meat grounds the human body and spirit to this lower realm. It can be a good or bad thing depending how you view and use it.
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    One thing that I always remember from a seminar that I once attended was a speaker who said that not everyone can assimilate a vegetarian diet. This speaker also said that it doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you honour your food source. I also knew someone who had an allergy to meat.

    Honouring your food source always stuck with me, as the way that animals are slaughtered in this country is a mechanised process with no compassion and much cruelty. I became vegetarian in about 1986 when my walk into work passed a slaughterhouse. I would see the animals being beaten in by young thugs in bloodied overalls, the animals sensed that something very bad was around the corner and tried to turn back. It sickened me and I could no longer be a part of it.

    I asked my husband, "would it bother you if you never ate meat again?" and was stunned to receive the answer "no" immediately - this is a Scotsman brought up on a heavy meat diet! For my part, I think that I was born with a vegetarian gene or something, I ate meat as everyone did in the 70s but I had to smother it with sauces as that was the only way I could tolerate it and I would only eat the vegetables at Sunday dinner. So, from the summer of 1986 we were vegetarian and have been ever since; many people thought we were totally weird back then. Eating out, there were the ubiquitous choices of veggie lasagne or veggie chilli and nothing else, but we found some fantastic veggie restaurants and back then there were some great independent wholefood stores.

    So, I was born with an inclination to a vegetarian diet and have had a long fascination with India - past life, maybe?

    One other thought is veganism, to which I have much respect but that is not my choice as I love cheese and I don't think that I could give it up. Also, everything you eat has to die for your consumption, even the veggies... I ponder on that especially with my home grown produce, that I nurture right through the summer. I always feel a tinge of sadness when I harvest them and I thank them.

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    I’ve turned myself ethical vegetarian when I was in my teenage , i were deep philosopher back then asking endless questions to the intelligence of this Universe, never satisfied with answers till I’ve met some of my yogi teachers few years later in India.
    The ashrams and schools I’ve studied with in India were purely vegetarian and based in sattvic diet , containing no meat, fish, eggs, even garlic and onion.
    I recall those days very fondly because the food was pure and beautiful in taste and it never made you sick.

    So I stayed with this type of diet for many years to go with that caveat I eat “tapas” rather than meal portions, munching all day fits me just well ( ask langurs) but I rarely get hungry, with or without food.

    I’ve occasionally munched on fish or chicken too but as long running ( instead standing ) vegetarian, I prefer not to consume alien life forms.

    With fruits and vegetables too I tend to pick those that suit the day the best.


    There is no worse situation than eating without hunger and without love.


    Any food given or taken out of love is free of guilt. Also, every being no matter their feeding habits have their right to their food.

    I only believe in eating in peace, in privacy, with holy attitude 🙏


    During the recent epidemics I’ve seen many people had to pause and refeed themselves in fact, as a result of previous busy times and stress.


    I don’t want to believe in eating anything than love is important



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    I'm a Budhhist. therfore and out of compassion, I would never eat a living being. Another point is what happens to your energy and aura. when you eat an animal the negative energy of how they died and the fact that they dind't want to die, puts your aura in to a deep dark red and black energy. this negative energy is destroying your etheral body and not to mention - due to this negative karma, you will be reborn in the hell realms. not my words but the teachings of Siddharta Gautama.
    That's a bit not 'natural' in itself, because animals will gladly eat you without any regards for "energy" either positive or negative. And animals do have feelings, and hurt inside and all those things, they just know how to deal with the nature itself and understand in a basic way, how life works, they are prepared to fight, but they are also aware of death and deal with it way better than most humans, who invent rules to prevent it or attempt to escape it in any possible way even when they know it's unavoidable

    The difference between Humans and animals is the concious mind which gives you the possibility to choose. due to this comment I will refer to you as an animal.

    Since you are a Buddhist, sure you know about the practice of "Transmission of Spirit" or "Sky Burial"?

    Sky burial has nothing to do with tantric Buddhissm

    A big part of the aspect of being alive, is respecting other living beings, but most importantly, respecting nature and its rules. And one of the main rules of nature is that you must not allow waste, because that waste is something taken away from some other living being. So if you have to eat, you eat, because eventually, you will be food for someone else as well

    That's where I see that you're an animal with the same instincts. i will rather die than harming another seinten being. But therefore you need to have conciousness.

    Before you can reach Nirvana, you have to accept the nature of this world, as it is, not as you would like it to be. This also means you have to accept that at some point, you will have to eat some other living being, and plants are also living beings by the way. Or you can eat air and water only, but then you would waste your energy so that it doesn't give back to nature as much as nature gave to you...
    That's where your totally wrong! You can never reach enlightenment when you let your survival depend on the suffering of another seinten being. You definitely have absolute no Idea what Buddhism really means.

    Have a great life and die well,

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    Quote Posted by Brigantia (here)
    One thing that I always remember from a seminar that I once attended was a speaker who said that not everyone can assimilate a vegetarian diet. This speaker also said that it doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you honour your food source. I also knew someone who had an allergy to meat.

    Honouring your food source always stuck with me, as the way that animals are slaughtered in this country is a mechanised process with no compassion and much cruelty. I became vegetarian in about 1986 when my walk into work passed a slaughterhouse. I would see the animals being beaten in by young thugs in bloodied overalls, the animals sensed that something very bad was around the corner and tried to turn back. It sickened me and I could no longer be a part of it.

    I asked my husband, "would it bother you if you never ate meat again?" and was stunned to receive the answer "no" immediately - this is a Scotsman brought up on a heavy meat diet! For my part, I think that I was born with a vegetarian gene or something, I ate meat as everyone did in the 70s but I had to smother it with sauces as that was the only way I could tolerate it and I would only eat the vegetables at Sunday dinner. So, from the summer of 1986 we were vegetarian and have been ever since; many people thought we were totally weird back then. Eating out, there were the ubiquitous choices of veggie lasagne or veggie chilli and nothing else, but we found some fantastic veggie restaurants and back then there were some great independent wholefood stores.

    So, I was born with an inclination to a vegetarian diet and have had a long fascination with India - past life, maybe?

    One other thought is veganism, to which I have much respect but that is not my choice as I love cheese and I don't think that I could give it up. Also, everything you eat has to die for your consumption, even the veggies... I ponder on that especially with my home grown produce, that I nurture right through the summer. I always feel a tinge of sadness when I harvest them and I thank them.
    I've seen the meat factories like that, it's something no living being should have to go through. I have seen them in fear knowing where they are going and what's going to happen

    When i do eat chicken, it's from a 'free range' farm, and it's only rarely these days, but i know i do need it so i have to, it's hard to say no when my own life depends on it :/

    Going out and dining with fine steak and stuff like that? No thanks

    I think i understand how you feel, if i could avoid it entirely, i would most likely, i don't get any pleasure out of it anyways, i just have to because i need to or i would weaken and die out

    Quote So, from the summer of 1986 we were vegetarian and have been ever since; many people thought we were totally weird back then. Eating out, there were the ubiquitous choices of veggie lasagne or veggie chilli and nothing else, but we found some fantastic veggie restaurants and back then there were some great independent wholefood stores.
    I'm so glad there are a lot of options these days, must have been so hard and hopeless having to search hard to find a good place back then
    Bona Terra, Bona Gens, Aqua Clara, Clarum Coelum

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