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    I'm getting a vibe from so much of the Alternative channels that makes me feel uncomfortable.

    Many of the 'names' in the movement have now become harsh, critical, judgemental with a them vs us attitude. 'The Awake vs the Sheep.' I feel they are doing just as much divisive and psychological harm regarding the vaccine for example as the mainstream media!

    Apparently, we're either heading into the 5th Dimension or if we're 'stupid enough to have the vaccine' its all doom and gloom - depopulation, souls cut off from god, damage that can't be reversed, its too late etc. A lot of sensational scary stuff being delivered without much compassion which apparently 'serves us right' because we 'were too lazy and didn't do the research.'

    Many people around the world having the vaccines are kind, loving people who happen to be our nearest and dearest loved ones. I'll admit, its having a psychological effect on ME to be repeatedly told day-in-day-out how there's no hope for those we love who have the jab and how they'll be disconnected from God and may well die in the next few months!!

    Whether a true possibility or not, it seems crass and thoughtless to be driving this negativity. I see in myself and in like-minded people around me a growing fear, anxiety and despair for our loved ones.

    Many of these names within the movement are the same people telling us in the same breath that 'life is wonderful' 'the war is won' 'so-and-so is a clone' 'so-and-so has been taken out/in Gitmo' I could go on and on but we all know the script word-for-word - only the dates keep changing!

    None of it has come to light. There is nothing so show!!! There never is!!! How do we not know that the same people peddling this hope that never materializes, could be wrong with the info they are repeatedly telling us about the permanent vaccine damage? Its one thing telling us we will die, but its quite another telling us we will be permanently severed from God/Source.

    The narrative has changed from Trump coming back to vaccines not only killing us but taking our souls!

    Some of these channels don't seem to be getting much fresh 'intel' these days and are instead talking a lot about 'people being stupid and needing to wake up.' I'm also detecting a 'serve them right' attitude.

    This is all just as gross as the divissivness of Facebook and Twitter etc.

    Things are becoming just as polarized as in the mainstream. Has the alternative media been seriously infiltrated? I'm thinking its time to walk away from ALL media. It's ALL potentially damaging to our mental health.

    Thank you for reading and putting up with my rant. But what was a source of hope and inspiration has now become a source of fear mongering and I'm getting a sense of the same tactics and click-bait techniques being used as in the MSM.

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    Default Re: Much of Alternative Media Becoming Just As Toxic And Damaging As MSM

    one word only: "competition"
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    Default Re: Much of Alternative Media Becoming Just As Toxic And Damaging As MSM

    People are very easy to control, even in the alternative community too.

    If something evokes the feeling of dread in you then chances are that you are being played.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    • How much/many of all Alternative Media do know how to practice Outsmart Defeatism attitude in a creative & uplifting way, going beyond the mass conditioning?
    A. none
    B. some
    C. half
    D. most
    E. all

    ... and how many are judged not by how they do the work but by how people react to it in "comments" especially from the "loudest" posers, shills, trolls, fake accounts etc. giving us the illusion how we "have to" perceive the ones that did the effort/work. To me it is all just "Perception Wars" aka PsyWars.

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    Default Re: Much of Alternative Media Becoming Just As Toxic And Damaging As MSM

    Wow, great idea for a thread!

    Lots of different directions to go in further breaking this down, but I'll toss one out there that I've noticed for some time now. Whether it be mainstream media or alternative media, many followers of either share one big thing in common: They work backwards from their conclusions. They decide to see the world in a certain way, and only go to information sources that will confirm this world view.

    The rest is hogwash...

    That's basically when we join a club, an echo chamber, whether wittingly or not. "The people and information sources I align myself with are far more advanced and enlightened than 'the others' out there, and the only reason that anyone else wouldn't be fully in lockstep with this is because either they have not fully looked into it yet, or they're just hopeless slaves to the establishment".

    There's a certain air of elitism that can come with this as well: "I'm awakened, I'm on the right path, I'm getting the real truth, and you're just one of the sheeple happy in your servitude".
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    Default Re: Much of Alternative Media Becoming Just As Toxic And Damaging As MSM

    I've grown more disillusioned with alternative media as well over the past 6 years or so. It started with finding the content on libertarian sites I used to frequent like mises, lewrockwell and others increasingly cringeworthy. In many respects I now seeing trading in CNN for Naturalnews and such to be akin to swapping vomit for diarrhea. A lot of stuff out there is likely disinformation as well.

    Regards the covid vaccines, I certainly worry as well about the long term effects. Although such studies don't get publicized much I was reading up on one earlier today regards developmental disorders and asthma. Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Children. So, I would say its valid to worry about long term effects, but much of the hysteria over thinking the Jab will somehow cut you off from God or link you up with AI is pure nonsense as I see it. One of my qigong students got vaccinated recently, and so far as I can tell they're having no issues at present connecting to God and Spirit.
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    Default Re: Much of Alternative Media Becoming Just As Toxic And Damaging As MSM

    I think it's all part of this "demoralization" agenda.

    The amount of info being thrown at us is so overwhelming, so divisive, so negative, so emotionally jarring, that the temptation to throw your hands up in the air and walk away from it all is almost irrestible.

    The key is to learn to be comfortable in uncomfortable situations. This can be done incrementally.

    In American football, a young quarterback often feels hurried and frantic as a result of the opposing teams' pass rush, and either throws an interception, makes a poor pass, or starts to scramble out of the pocket created for him by his offensive lineman. The pocket, as it's called, can seem chaotic and claustrophobic for a young QB, but it's actually the safest space to be in most of the time.

    Once the QB learns to deal with chaos, and stay in the pocket, the game begins to slow down for him. Things become much clearer. The decision making process is smoother and much less stressful. With this patience, the right thing to do often reveals itself before a sack can occur.

    That's what we need to do. Stay in the pocket. Don't get hurried. Let the game slow down for you. Once you do that you feel less stressed by it all. And the proper information to embrace or discard reveals itself to you.

    However, some divisiveness and negativity is inevitable. Staying neutral in order to avoid divisiveness or negativity is foolish. You have to take firm positions when you know something is wrong, and it's bound to piss people off. So you don't avoid divisiveness and negativity, you simply learn to navigate it mentally and emotionally over time. Just have to accept it. Maybe even allow yourself to enjoy it from time to time.
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    Bassplayer, I appreciate your post very much. Because the stakes appear so high, it is easy for me to take in a lot of info and then react because it seems realistic to do so. This feels like a wake up call to me to not have to glean yet more info to drive myself nuts with! lol All the posts following the OP were also helpful. Anyone remember Simon and Garfunkel..."slow down, you're movin' too fast....". I can't remember if it was the "morning" or the "moment" we were wanting to make last, but either works. ❤️✌️ Diane

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    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot

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    The spiritual argument goes as far back as to Anthroposophy and Rudolf Steiner. I like a lot about his work and Anthroposophic thinking but he might have seen the topic of vaccinations in the frame of his time and his knowledge back then. (Vaccinations were indeed always a controversial topic since they were first introduced).

    So for what it is worth:

    Quote “I have told you that the spirits of darkness are going to inspire their human hosts, in whom they will be dwelling, to find a vaccine that will drive all inclination toward spirituality out of people’s souls when they are still very young, and this will happen in a roundabout way through the living body. Today, bodies are vaccinated against one thing and another; in future, children will be vaccinated with a substance which it will certainly be possible to produce, and this will make them immune, so that they do not develop foolish inclinations connected with spiritual life – ‘foolish’ here, or course, in the eyes of materialists. . . .
    “. . . a way will finally be found to vaccinate bodies so that these bodies will not allow the inclination toward spiritual ideas to develop and all their lives people will believe only in the physical world they perceive with the senses. Out of impulses which the medical profession gained from presumption – oh, I beg your pardon, from the consumption [tuberculosis] they themselves suffered – people are now vaccinated against consumption, and in the same way they will be vaccinated against any inclination toward spirituality. This is merely to give you a particularly striking example of many things which will come in the near and more distant future in this field – the aim being to bring confusion into the impulses which want to stream down to earth after the victory of the spirits of light.”
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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot



    I don't think everybody is doing their best, respectfully. Not even close!

    And I think that's hopeful news in a way, because it suggests that the people in the world and the conditions of it can improve. Because if everyone is doing their best right now, and this is the result, we're f#cked!

    There are many many people who have been given loads of vaccines, eaten tons of GMO foods, been exposed to polluted air and water, etc, who are still stumbling towards the light. I think we're morally required to follow their lead, regardess of how weak or strong we are. If, despite all our programming and conditioning and exposure to toxins etc, we can still manage one step forward, we're obliged to take it. And if we can take one we can take two, and so on and so forth. And people get stronger that way over time! That divine spark is there, as you said, but often it takes great effort to find it!

    Cleaning our bodies and returning to nature are VITAL, and something we all need to do if we're to become fully realized spirits in human bodies. I couldn't agree more with you! I'm cheering you from the sidelines every time you suggest it. But the world won't wait till we're all cleansed and nature'd to resume the fight. It's going aggressively downhill. And those that are interested in stopping that have to learn how to fight from a disadvantaged state. We have to learn how to be comfortable in our discomfort. We are what we are at the moment, for better or worse, and we're obliged to resist with what we've got.

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    Thank you Chris. Funnily enough, my Tai Chi/QiGong teacher emailed this morning to say classes are cancelled this weekend, not because of Easter but because he had the jab yesterday and has a very sore arm. I was surprised, but then realized that I shouldn't assume anything about anyone! He's been practicing for decades but I guess I was projecting my own feelings! I hope he'll be ok. xx

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot



    I don't think everybody is doing their best, respectfully. Not even close!

    And I think that's hopeful news in a way, because it suggests that the people in the world and the conditions of it can improve. Because if everyone is doing their best right now, and this is the result, we're f#cked!

    There are many many people who have been given loads of vaccines, eaten tons of GMO foods, been exposed to polluted air and water, etc, who are still stumbling towards the light. I think we're morally required to follow their lead, regardess of how weak or strong we are. If, despite all our programming and conditioning and exposure to toxins etc, we can still manage one step forward, we're obliged to take it. And if we can take one we can take two, and so on and so forth. And people get stronger that way over time! That divine spark is there, as you said, but often it takes great effort to find it!

    Cleaning our bodies and returning to nature are VITAL, and something we all need to do if we're to become fully realized spirits in human bodies. I couldn't agree more with you! I'm cheering you from the sidelines every time you suggest it. But the world won't wait till we're all cleansed and nature'd to resume the fight. It's going aggressively downhill. And those that are interested in stopping that have to learn how to fight from a disadvantaged state. We have to learn how to be comfortable in our discomfort. We are what we are at the moment, for better or worse, and we're obliged to resist with what we've got.
    Sure Mike, let's make as many moral standards as possible and let's oblige people to follow. Everyone already has an original sin since they are born. Let's make people as guilty as possible.

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    Bassplayer, I appreciate your post very much. Because the stakes appear so high, it is easy for me to take in a lot of info and then react because it seems realistic to do so. This feels like a wake up call to me to not have to glean yet more info to drive myself nuts with! lol All the posts following the OP were also helpful. Anyone remember Simon and Garfunkel..."slow down, you're movin' too fast....". I can't remember if it was the "morning" or the "moment" we were wanting to make last, but either works. ❤️✌️ Diane
    Thank you Diane. I hope you're ok. I wonder how many of us here, at Avalon feel in a spin from all the 'intel' and 'analysis' and discussion firing at us from all sides - not to mention that many of us here have partners and loved ones getting jabbed, and the worry around that and also what it means for our relationships and freedoms etc. One of THE biggest issues I have at the moment - is the chastising and judgement from the alt media, not even stopping to think that perhaps most of their audience have precious loved ones who are 'stupid sheep' choosing the vaccine. There's a lack of compassion and sensitivity.

    Kerry Cassidy is one of the very few people to offer reassurances that its not the end of the world if loved ones get jabbed and that you CANNOT separate from Source - we are all part of Source!

    Dr. Pamela Popper also talks about how its not anyone's business to be telling someone else what to do with their body and vaccines - let alone judging them if they choose differently to us!

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot
    Thank you Constance. Your thoughts are very helpful. xx

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot



    I don't think everybody is doing their best, respectfully. Not even close!

    And I think that's hopeful news in a way, because it suggests that the people in the world and the conditions of it can improve. Because if everyone is doing their best right now, and this is the result, we're f#cked!

    There are many many people who have been given loads of vaccines, eaten tons of GMO foods, been exposed to polluted air and water, etc, who are still stumbling towards the light. I think we're morally required to follow their lead, regardess of how weak or strong we are. If, despite all our programming and conditioning and exposure to toxins etc, we can still manage one step forward, we're obliged to take it. And if we can take one we can take two, and so on and so forth. And people get stronger that way over time! That divine spark is there, as you said, but often it takes great effort to find it!

    Cleaning our bodies and returning to nature are VITAL, and something we all need to do if we're to become fully realized spirits in human bodies. I couldn't agree more with you! I'm cheering you from the sidelines every time you suggest it. But the world won't wait till we're all cleansed and nature'd to resume the fight. It's going aggressively downhill. And those that are interested in stopping that have to learn how to fight from a disadvantaged state. We have to learn how to be comfortable in our discomfort. We are what we are at the moment, for better or worse, and we're obliged to resist with what we've got.
    This is also a valid take on things. You talking about vaccines, GMO and pollution etc makes me think about my TaiChi/Qigong teacher having got the jab. If I were to listen to all the doom and judgement from the alt media about 'sheep getting vaccinated' then technically, I'm nearer to God/Divine than my teacher who has decades of genuine dedicated spiritual practice more than me, who is actually doing more for humanity than I am! This doesn't add up.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot



    I don't think everybody is doing their best, respectfully. Not even close!

    And I think that's hopeful news in a way, because it suggests that the people in the world and the conditions of it can improve. Because if everyone is doing their best right now, and this is the result, we're f#cked!

    There are many many people who have been given loads of vaccines, eaten tons of GMO foods, been exposed to polluted air and water, etc, who are still stumbling towards the light. I think we're morally required to follow their lead, regardess of how weak or strong we are. If, despite all our programming and conditioning and exposure to toxins etc, we can still manage one step forward, we're obliged to take it. And if we can take one we can take two, and so on and so forth. And people get stronger that way over time! That divine spark is there, as you said, but often it takes great effort to find it!

    Cleaning our bodies and returning to nature are VITAL, and something we all need to do if we're to become fully realized spirits in human bodies. I couldn't agree more with you! I'm cheering you from the sidelines every time you suggest it. But the world won't wait till we're all cleansed and nature'd to resume the fight. It's going aggressively downhill. And those that are interested in stopping that have to learn how to fight from a disadvantaged state. We have to learn how to be comfortable in our discomfort. We are what we are at the moment, for better or worse, and we're obliged to resist with what we've got.
    Sure Mike, let's make as many moral standards as possible and let's oblige people to follow. Everyone already has an original sin since they are born. Let's make people as guilty as possible.

    Yes Bubu, thank you for clarifying my thoughts. I don't know why I waffled my way thru that entire post when I could have just stated my real desire to make everyone feel as guilty as possible in a sentence or two. I'll learn from this.

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    Thank you Diane. I hope you're ok. I wonder how many of us here, at Avalon feel in a spin from all the 'intel' and 'analysis' and discussion firing at us from all sides - not to mention that many of us here have partners and loved ones getting jabbed, and the worry around that and also what it means for our relationships and freedoms etc. One of THE biggest issues I have at the moment - is the chastising and judgement from the alt media, not even stopping to think that perhaps most of their audience have precious loved ones who are 'stupid sheep' choosing the vaccine. There's a lack of compassion and sensitivity.

    Kerry Cassidy is one of the very few people to offer reassurances that its not the end of the world if loved ones get jabbed and that you CANNOT separate from Source - we are all part of Source!

    Dr. Pamela Popper also talks about how its not anyone's business to be telling someone else what to do with their body and vaccines - let alone judging them if they choose differently to us!
    My main thought is WHY do we need Kerry Cassidy to reassure us? Get to know Source yourself. It is time we stopped asking these other folks to reassure us.

    The only reason it or any medical treatment is "ANYONE'S" BUSINESS? Because we may have partners, children, parents and these people make up our family. Who will be the ones to need to step in if it is not death but permanent disability? It is true on one level that people have the right to make up their minds and it is true on another level that these people will then ask us to step in. This is an ethical issue.

    The whole issue is contaminated by the lies that have INSISTED there is no harm. That is bollocks.

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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot



    I don't think everybody is doing their best, respectfully. Not even close!

    And I think that's hopeful news in a way, because it suggests that the people in the world and the conditions of it can improve. Because if everyone is doing their best right now, and this is the result, we're f#cked!

    There are many many people who have been given loads of vaccines, eaten tons of GMO foods, been exposed to polluted air and water, etc, who are still stumbling towards the light. I think we're morally required to follow their lead, regardess of how weak or strong we are. If, despite all our programming and conditioning and exposure to toxins etc, we can still manage one step forward, we're obliged to take it. And if we can take one we can take two, and so on and so forth. And people get stronger that way over time! That divine spark is there, as you said, but often it takes great effort to find it!

    Cleaning our bodies and returning to nature are VITAL, and something we all need to do if we're to become fully realized spirits in human bodies. I couldn't agree more with you! I'm cheering you from the sidelines every time you suggest it. But the world won't wait till we're all cleansed and nature'd to resume the fight. It's going aggressively downhill. And those that are interested in stopping that have to learn how to fight from a disadvantaged state. We have to learn how to be comfortable in our discomfort. We are what we are at the moment, for better or worse, and we're obliged to resist with what we've got.
    Sure Mike, let's make as many moral standards as possible and let's oblige people to follow. Everyone already has an original sin since they are born. Let's make people as guilty as possible.

    Yes Bubu, thank you for clarifying my thoughts. I don't know why I waffled my way thru that entire post when I could have just stated my real desire to make everyone feel as guilty as possible in a sentence or two. I'll learn from this.
    You can't do that Mike, you should use Subliminals as this is the most efficient way to make people guilty. As shown to us by big bro elites.

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Everyone is just doing the best they can with what they've got. There are no exceptions or exclusions to this but to understand why, read on.

    It was said to me a decade or so ago that there are only varying degrees of insanity left in the world and it's true.

    We have to give everyone a break here, we have to cut people some slack because it is through no fault of their own that they are in the place they are in, especially if you understand what has happened to the neurology of people because of things like fluoridation of the water, GMO, processed, irradiated and cooked foods, chemtrails, vaccines etc etc.

    Most people are just victims of living in a zoo society in the same way that animals who live in zoos have no idea what it is like to go out into the wilderness and live the life of a wild animal.

    People don't have a connection with the wilderness, heck most people don't even realise that the wilderness exists!

    The flip side to this is that once people have awakened to the nature of life, they will be able to see this for what it really is, it's the game of life in the play of consciousness. It's all just one big jigsaw puzzle to be solved. Why do we do jigsaw puzzles? Because they are fun and because they are a challenge.

    Imagine this. Imagine if at the end of all your incarnations, you returned to the source of all things and you existed there in that space. However, you soon got bored, really bored, so you decided that you were going to spice things up a bit. So you decided that you were going to go into amnesia, take yourself into some lower dimensions and have some fun solving a few jigsaw puzzles. You soon returned to the source again after completing the puzzles but you soon got bored so once again, you went into an even lower dimension with all that amnesia to have fun solving an even bigger jigsaw puzzle and find your way back to the truth.

    However, you never lost that divine spark of truth within you. If you contain that divine spark of truth within you, it means that each and every one of us contains that divine spark because the truth is, we are all just many manifestations of the one source. I am just you in another form.

    The meaning of life is to have fun and the purpose of life is to share it with others.

    Whatever we are upset about is only a projection of all our conditioning and programming. Emotions only block the light that exists within all of us. If we're not at peace no matter what is going on in the world, there has been a false reality created through all that conditioning and programming. This is where all we need to do is stop what we are doing, head in the opposite direction to where we have been heading and to put back what is missing from our lives so that we can have peace.

    If a person feels upset about what is being shared anywhere by anyone, just take what you need and leave the rest. One can find inspiration in anything that they look at, even if it is to know that it is not what they want.

    P.S if you want to be lighthearted - eat lots of beetroot
    Thanks Constance so glad there are voice of reason that hasn't gone astray to the fanatic side.

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    Default Re: Much of Alternative Media Becoming Just As Toxic And Damaging As MSM

    Of course it is.

    Stand your ground.

    Stay resolutely on your own course.

    There are many others on the same good, resolute course. And they're standing their ground too.

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