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    Quote Posted by Bassplayer1 (here)
    Thank you Chris. Funnily enough, my Tai Chi/QiGong teacher emailed this morning to say classes are cancelled this weekend, not because of Easter but because he had the jab yesterday and has a very sore arm. I was surprised, but then realized that I shouldn't assume anything about anyone! He's been practicing for decades but I guess I was projecting my own feelings! I hope he'll be ok. xx
    Chances are he will be fine, especially given that he has been building up his life force over the years. Per the VAERS data, as of March 29 the percentage of deaths reported following a covid vaccination are around 0.0017%. While the real number of deaths and adverse reactions could indeed be several times higher than that, even then it's still low enough at present that most people will ignore it. I've now had several dozen clients at my job who report getting the Jab and doing fine, one of whom also had covid last year and had a hell of time recovering. On a more esoteric level, I do notice a contraction in the outer wei qi aspect of their aura, but honestly there's plenty of day to day stressors that can cause that.

    What I do find more alarming was actually reports of pregnant women experiencing miscarriages after vaccination. It shouldn't be forced on pregnant women or children in particular (or anyone who objects really so far as civil liberties go). Rather than short term alarming events, what I'm going to be looking at in the coming years is stats on a possible rise in autoimmune disorders and other chronic conditions, which the media will of course conveniently blame of the virus.

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    One of the primary causes for this effect is the assumption so many seem to have, the assumption that there’s a best way, hence the only way to be through these times, if we are to make it through this ok. A ‘this is what’s going on, this is what we all must do’ mentality. Because this is a false assumption it doesn’t happen and a quiet desperation builds from the fear that one’s fate is tied to the direction of the collective, since humanity is dealing with a totalitarian issue. The anger, arrogance and all the divisive effects are the expression of the assumption. They’re afraid and I get it, I’ve moved through that space enough myself to understand how they get themselves into such a state.

    We all have our role. If you’re certain of your authenticity as a freedom fighter then for the love of God be that because yes, so many are trusting those in positions of authority and are kept too busy to question it. And why should they? What’s so terrible about being a person living your life with priorities such as working to provide for your family and being a helpful member of your community? Why shouldn’t they have the freedom to live their life like that? Most do this out of love and need freedom fighters to thanklessly have their backs. Meanwhile, billions of people are on the planet learning all sorts of lessons and who hasn’t learned the most powerful lessons through the most terrible experiences?

    Teachers, mystics, philosophers, photographers, researchers, bakers, artists, fathers, whatever is authentic to you, be that and trust that because it’s all anyone can be and what’s more powerful than being all you can be. It’s not until anyone insists what anybody else’s role should be that things get ugly like the OP has so accurately described.

    When one stops being so clever and pauses and really examines assumptions, it’s realised how truly unintelligent and arrogant that mentality is. I mean seriously, who on Earth, as a human, has the capacity to decide what anyone else should be doing. Humanity is such a vast, convoluted concert of individuals that makes up an enormous and spectacular whole, probably best to leave that up to a higher intelligence than intellect, a higher intelligence we all have the ability to express through flowing our authentic selves. I mean isn’t that challenging enough?

    Perhaps the more pertinent issue at hand is individuals not trusting who they are? So called spiritually aware people are supposed to intuitively understand the wholistic perspective of a human being, yet feel the need for others to be a certain way. That’s a contradiction that indicates the mentality described in the OP has got caught up in their own minds. Mind is highly clever and convincing, the stories it weaves can justify anything, even the most unintelligent ideas, because it’s also bat**** crazy, constantly contradicting itself.

    We have thoughts and assume they’re ours, and we earnestly communicate them as an expression of ourselves, but once we detach enough and really observe thought it can be seen for what it is; a living system that’s actually talking to each of us according to experience, while pretending to be us. It requires our participation through the belief that it is us, but it’s not. It’s just a matrix and once we truly realise this we can experience the freedom we had all along and begin to have some real fun with it.

    So perhaps the awakened are not as far along in development as we’d like to believe, because of the nature of the matrix we call our thoughts. It’s an endless maze and until we completely unplug from it, these sort of issues will keep presenting themselves. An that’s ok, if we’re aware of that we can stop falling into the same traps of division.
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    This is a timely thread. I was thinking of starting one myself: much better this way

    It is quite astounding to see how the people denouncing the fearmongers are doing so much fearmongering of their own. Look no further than this forum: don’t eat this, don’t drink that, don’t read this, don’t watch that; take this supplement, try this device. Make massive arrests of half the political spectrum in league with China. 5G will kill us all. Move house because your area is about to sink under the waves. Take to the hills, emigrate to Ecuador. This time, unlike every other time, there really is no going back. Compare and try contrasting: build underground bunkers, colonize Mars, control everything by computer, kill off the useless eaters…. Enough.

    So what is fear? I think it is generated by an oversimplification of complex issues. Complexity involves a mixture of good and bad, which is where discernment comes in. One man’s fish is another man’s poisson, as they say. Over-confidence is another oversimplification of complex issues. Fear says it’s all bad; over-confidence says it’s all good. I see two perspectives on the situation: growing up and domestication.

    Growing up is the individual version of broader species evolution. The above-described ‘enlightened’ fearmongering is clearly advocating devolution: a return to the wild. This means that it is also reactionary in terms of domestication. A gangly teen may feel fear at no longer being the small child and wanting to bite out the hand that feeds it. The process involves two opposite things: first, leaving their parents before they are thrown out; and secondly, discovering in so doing that their parents are the closest approximation to what they want to become and are becoming through natural evolution. Meanwhile both sides may feel that they are dealing with reptilians from Orion. Usually, but not always, it all comes out in the wash.

    Domestication I take to mean controlling the environment in a human-friendly way. Again you have the question, is this good or bad? In other words good for humans, and bad for everything else? Or bad for everyone, humans included? Or… good for everyone, not just humans? This is where an issue such as veganism comes in: plants are happy to be eaten, cows etc. unhappy. How convenient. So let’s start with the simpler form: domestication of plant life.

    A gardener will enjoy their flowers and feel sad when they fade and go to seed. A botanist will see the whole picture. A botanical scientist will be seeking to produce new varieties with enhanced colour, scent, size or whatever. Meanwhile others will nostalgically prefer wild flowers, which are beautiful of course, but often quite tiny and struggling amid the stronger weeds. Then a fruit grower, will enjoy the apple blossom and feel good when it fades and goes to seed, with promise of a bumper crop of food.

    That is all from the human viewpoint. If then we posit a degree of consciousness in these plants, which people are beginning to do, then how do things look from the standpoint of the plants? Does the cut flower rue the fact that it will never have babies? Or does it benefit from basking in a moment of glory in the home of some humans that it is making very happy? Do the apples worry about why there are so many of them (overpopulation) and how they are going to get eaten, which has to be a ghastly experience, right? Or do they benefit from some kind of transubstantiation (the Christian term for the process involved in holy communion)? This benefit would be to the species as a whole rather than any particular individual. Some of the benefits are obvious: bigger, better, tastier, healthier varieties than the crab apples one finds in the wild; and bigger populations. Another benefit is less obvious: some kind of enhanced consciousness through contact with the humans providing all this nurturing. Conversely of course, this would be damaged, as well as humans themselves, by improper practices such as big pharming.

    I would suggest that domestication of animals is really no different, except perhaps in scale, meaning incidentally that the basic premise of veganism is spurious. One ultimate example is a golden retriever. Only a very small child would be afraid of one, because of its size and strangeness, but after that, it is difficult to say who is giving and who is taking more. One wonders how and in what conditions such a domestic animal, so loving and lovable in human terms, could survive in the dog eats dog wild. An adult form of this analogy is the story of the Christian Androcles and the lion, who met at the Coliseum. He didn’t get eaten because in a previous encounter he had removed a thorn from the lion’s foot. He was no lion-tamer, the lion itself had overcome both its own fear of humans and its own customary aggressiveness towards them – to ask for help. Closer to home, you can search for the story of Anna Breytenbach and the panther Diabolo. She tells both sides of the story: how a possibly gentle creature can become fierce in certain adverse circumstances, e.g. of mistreatment.

    If then we can think of animals and plants beginning to think and feel like humans, then it should not be too difficult to put ourselves in a similar situation to theirs with respect to some ‘higher’, more evolved consciousness in a context of mutual benefit. Transpose all of the above to our present situation, and you will understand that we are all reacting in various personal ways to one and the same experience of contact with the unknown. On the higher level, it will be benevolence in a mixture of expert to clumsy handling towards a mixed population of humans with all kinds of reasons for being rather meek or more hostile and fierce. Funnily enough, the alternative community seems to crystallize both ends of that spectrum.


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    One of the primary causes for this effect is the assumption so many seem to have, the assumption that there’s a best way, hence the only way to be through these times, if we are to make it through this ok. A ‘this is what’s going on, this is what we all must do’ mentality. Because this is a false assumption it doesn’t happen and a quiet desperation builds from the fear that one’s fate is tied to the direction of the collective, since humanity is dealing with a totalitarian issue. The anger, arrogance and all the divisive effects are the expression of the assumption. They’re afraid and I get it, I’ve moved through that space enough myself to understand how they get themselves into such a state.

    We all have our role. If you’re certain of your authenticity as a freedom fighter then for the love of God be that because yes, so many are trusting those in positions of authority and are kept too busy to question it. And why should they? What’s so terrible about being a person living your life with priorities such as working to provide for your family and being a helpful member of your community? Why shouldn’t they have the freedom to live their life like that? Most do this out of love and need freedom fighters to thanklessly have their backs. Meanwhile, billions of people are on the planet learning all sorts of lessons and who hasn’t learned the most powerful lessons through the most terrible experiences?

    Teachers, mystics, philosophers, photographers, researchers, bakers, artists, fathers, whatever is authentic to you, be that and trust that because it’s all anyone can be and what’s more powerful than being all you can be. It’s not until anyone insists what anybody else’s role should be that things get ugly like the OP has so accurately described.

    When one stops being so clever and pauses and really examines assumptions, it’s realised how truly unintelligent and arrogant that mentality is. I mean seriously, who on Earth, as a human, has the capacity to decide what anyone else should be doing. Humanity is such a vast, convoluted concert of individuals that makes up an enormous and spectacular whole, probably best to leave that up to a higher intelligence than intellect, a higher intelligence we all have the ability to express through flowing our authentic selves. I mean isn’t that challenging enough?

    Perhaps the more pertinent issue at hand is individuals not trusting who they are? So called spiritually aware people are supposed to intuitively understand the wholistic perspective of a human being, yet feel the need for others to be a certain way. That’s a contradiction that indicates the mentality described in the OP has got caught up in their own minds. Mind is highly clever and convincing, the stories it weaves can justify anything, even the most unintelligent ideas, because it’s also bat**** crazy, constantly contradicting itself.

    We have thoughts and assume they’re ours, and we earnestly communicate them as an expression of ourselves, but once we detach enough and really observe thought it can be seen for what it is; a living system that’s actually talking to each of us according to experience, while pretending to be us. It requires our participation through the belief that it is us, but it’s not. It’s just a matrix and once we truly realise this we can experience the freedom we had all along and begin to have some real fun with it.

    So perhaps the awakened are not as far along in development as we’d like to believe, because of the nature of the matrix we call our thoughts. It’s an endless maze and until we completely unplug from it, these sort of issues will keep presenting themselves. An that’s ok, if we’re aware of that we can stop falling into the same traps of division.
    Thank you for this, a very fine post indeed.

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    I find it hard to believe that a Tai Chi instructor would take a vaccine.
    That's just me, of course.
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    Quote Posted by Bassplayer1 (here)

    This is also a valid take on things. You talking about vaccines, GMO and pollution etc makes me think about my TaiChi/Qigong teacher having got the jab. If I were to listen to all the doom and judgement from the alt media about 'sheep getting vaccinated' then technically, I'm nearer to God/Divine than my teacher who has decades of genuine dedicated spiritual practice more than me, who is actually doing more for humanity than I am! This doesn't add up.
    My first post on this very interesting thread. (I've thought about posting quite a lot! )

    One important thing to note. Whether an alt media voice (or researcher) or not, an alternative practitioner or not, or even a spiritual teacher (of a kind) or not — most people are specialists. Very few have a general, high-level knowledge and understanding of a lot of different material.

    I see this all the time on "alternative" blogs, articles, and videos. Someone will go deep into what really happened on 9/11 — and then make a joke about UFOs or Bigfoot. (This really happens.) Or dive deep into child trafficking, and make a joke about the secret space program (which is a very real thing). There are dozens of these yin-yang permutations.

    Only very, very few voices know quite a lot about quite a lot. Included, I would suggest, are Rich Dolan, Daniel Liszt, Catherine Austin Fitts, Joseph Farrell, Davie Icke, Dave Paulides, Wade Frazier, Jay Weidner, Clif High and (dare I say it) maybe myself. And there are others, of course.

    But I'd not even include Linda Howe, as she enthusiastically endorses the covid vaccine. She has blind spots that are hard to understand. But then, so do many.

    (David Wilcock has a very high intellect and a high level of data retention, but that doesn't stop him from being an egotistical fool. A high IQ prevents no-one from having a major blind spot about themselves.)

    The bottom line is that anyone's TaiChi teacher (or husband!) can be a wonderful person in some specific and valuable ways — but may be very ill-informed in other areas in which they just have no experience, education or interest. That's where their views become shaped by the mainstream, because they've not done the work.

    Polymaths, doing a lot of work in their lives to learn a lot of stuff, are a rare breed nowadays.
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    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    I find it hard to believe that a Tai Chi instructor would take a vaccine.
    That's just me, of course.
    Understand how you feel about it, but not everyone who follows alternative or fringe practices believes the same things. In regards to Tai Chi or other Chinese lineage practices, ancient China was likely one of, if not the very first places where variolation, the precursor to vaccination, was invented.

    Quote [One of Needham's texts reports that variolation was first practised between 1567 and 1572, and that it had been invented by an ‘extraordinary man’ who had based it on alchemical principles. Thereafter several families became hereditary inoculators but, for commercial reasons, refused to reveal their secrets.

    In the second half of the 17th century, the Khang-his emperor boasted that he had inoculated his whole family, his army, and other groups, and that they had all passed through mild smallpox. Also, at about this time, manuals setting out the techniques of inoculation were published.]
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3407399/

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    My perception of the Alternative Media changed when all of them decided to deny the existence of the coronavirus pandemic situation. We can perhaps discuss the goals of the globalist to release a virus, their intent to destroy the economy, all of this viewpoints I agree that we can discuss, it is a possibility. But deny the pandemic we cannot. In Brazil we have more than 3800 deaths per day, celebrities are dying, artists, singers, entrepreneurs, politicians all are dying from Covid here. We have all States with more than 90% Intensive care units occupied and approaching total collapse of health care. We have cases of people dieying by lack of oxigen in Hospitals. So my perception is that alternative media is lying to us when they claim that the covid pandemic does not exist. Just like mainstream media is lying to us. Another issue that happenned with alternative media is that the vast majority had to migrate from youtube, facebook because their point of view were no longer acceptable by BIG Techs. It is becoming even impossible to locate the alternative media these days.

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    TO BASEPLAYER: Upon hearing that you feared the results of your husband taking the Covid vaccine, I presented to you the salient information which I had in the hope that you would share it with your husband and perhaps dissuade him from a very dangerous act. I got my information about the loss of one's soul by taking the Mark of the Beast from the Bible and have known it for many years; and this does seem to be the time it is raising its ugly head. Also, not all the injections given contain the same material in kind or quantity. If everyone who took the Jab dropped dead immediately or not long after, it would dissuade others from taking it. It is Russian Roulette, since you never know what is in your injection. If you live with the first one, you may not live through the subsequent ones which will be required of you. Also, each country may not be dispensing the same programs of death, be they gradual or immediate. I was trying to help you both as most people are not holding the information I have been analyzing for many a year.

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